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He looks way, way more sinister as a sort of...dapper man with blades up his sleeves than as a Black Knight.
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Speedball posted:He looks way, way more sinister as a sort of...dapper man with blades up his sleeves than as a Black Knight. In that wide brimmed bowler hat and long rear end braid? Plus his massive atrophy and height loss.
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Jul 24, 2013 03:13
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CmdrKing posted:So, Yuber. Yuber is such a boring villain in the first games (Oh noes he is the DARK KNIGHT and PURE EVIL this sort of crap is really noticeable in Suikoden where the villains by and large are pretty interesting and have things like motivations and moral codes), but drat if he doesn't have some style here in three. If you're like me and played it first, there's always that little bit of irrational like for him. Yuber's personality is not any different in this game. He is still just "gehehhe...blood... >:}" he's more interesting in two because he has a relationship with another character and you are like "woah what's the deal with these guys...how mysterious.." Rigged Death Trap posted:In that wide brimmed bowler hat and long rear end braid? I'm not sure how you can tell that Yuber has gotten shorter..? Also everyone looks a lot bigger in armor, and Yuber's was especially unnecessarily huge
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Jul 24, 2013 03:32
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GulagDolls posted:I'm not sure how you can tell that Yuber has gotten shorter..? Also everyone looks a lot bigger in armor, and Yuber's was especially unnecessarily huge I get this feeling in the back of my brain that he lost a head of height or so. Maybe it's the more squashed proportions of the S3 models. I dunno. Everyone looks downright adorable.
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Jul 24, 2013 04:10
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I feel like probably the odd one out, but I hated Yuber's redesign in this game. Just seemed goofy.
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Jul 24, 2013 04:16
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An Interlude - CHAAAARGE! Remember when we first encountered Yuber and co? Well, Hugo's response is actually a dialogue choice. There are a few combinations, but most are basically the same, and result in what we saw, so I'll just be showing off the good one.  In this branch, Hugo doesn't decide to talk to them immediately.   So Lilly comes up with a genius plan instead.  From there, we have to agree with her plan.  Skittles disagrees with the plan.  Joe backs him up in place of M&Ms, though, who doesn't even have a line in this branch.  Even Fubar gets in on this.  She reacts predictably.  However, we'll still agree with her. We have the option not to, but...  Just what she was looking for in a  Joe disagrees, but doesn't seem to argue enough to do anything about it.  Meanwhile, the suspiciously mysterious group is still being mysterious and suspicious.   They continue to do their vague dialogue thing.  That is, until Lilly barges in.    Never even saw 'em coming.  Well, you're kind of right, Sarah, but only about half of the group.  She runs ahead gallantly!   The others exchange exasperated glances!  And then follow her into the--     And they're off!  He's not sure whether to be impressed or confused.  This one's dumbfounded, though.  Our brave Sir Robin and fellow minstrels catch their breath further down the passage.    I think that's supposed to be "we ran away," Joe.   Oh, Lilly, you glorious woman. 
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Jul 24, 2013 04:29
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Verant posted:To this day, I wonder if Yuber dropped his armored look because he was tired of Pesmerga following him or because the Masked Man made him. And, if the latter, how in the world did he manage it? My theory is that it was a themed outfit thing that one of them started to go with the other. Either Yuber started it to mock Pesmerga and his efforts to hunt him down, or Pes started it for reasons I couldn't guess at, but most likely the former. Sometime during the 15 years between S2 and 3, the two meet and Yuber kills Pesmerga, and his new duds represent the end of their rivalry. Granted, I hope to hell that this theory is wrong. Pesmerga's pretty baller.
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Jul 24, 2013 04:31
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Interesting. I have a different theory. Yuber decided that he didn't want to constantly be wearing giant black armor while he was walking around all the time because it's heavy and hot as gently caress.
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Jul 24, 2013 04:35
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Alternatively, they wanted to actually show him being pissed off, and it's a lot harder to do that when we can't see most of your face. So they gave him a cool hat instead of a helmet, and then said "Ehh what the hell, let's give him a whole ensemble." Plus it's a lot easier to sneak up on fuckers in a suit-and-tie than a suit-of-armor, and they seem to be at least partly trying to avoid notice.
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Jul 24, 2013 04:39
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We could always see Yuber's entire face. not that it matters because in this game he is constantly pushing his hat over his eyes.
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Jul 24, 2013 04:41
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I've always been fond of his redesign for III, but that may be partially because I saw him that way first, and thereafter his armor looked unnecessarily bulky and kind of silly to me. Pesmerga, for those of you new to this, was a star in I and II. He joined up hoping to find and beat down Yuber, who allied himself with the bad guys of each game in hopes of causing death and chaos and stuff. The fact that he was, apparently, never able to catch up to Yuber may have been due to his lovely speed stat. Otherwise, he was pretty cool, and there is a picture on the internet of him playing with children, cats, and Riou. 
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Jul 24, 2013 04:51
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Great, now I'm imagining Riou attempting to gain impromptu piggyback rides from random Stars of Destiny in his army and I can't stop giggling. Imagine him trying that poo poo with Jeane, Sierra, or any of the krakens.
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Jul 24, 2013 04:55
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Bufuman posted:Great, now I'm imagining Riou attempting to gain impromptu piggyback rides from random Stars of Destiny in his army and I can't stop giggling. Viktor would throw his head back and laugh, and then go "Sure, why the hell not? Hop on." And then he'd bullrush random people in the castle with Riou as an unwilling "accomplice".
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Jul 24, 2013 05:08
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yokaiy posted:I've always been fond of his redesign for III, but that may be partially because I saw him that way first, and thereafter his armor looked unnecessarily bulky and kind of silly to me. hm...you're forgetting something...pesmerga is also in this game!!!
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Jul 24, 2013 05:17
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I like the suit-and-bowler-cap look. It's kind of an English cultural shorthand for "hired thug". It says "I'm a bad guy, I like to hurt people, but I'm not the one in charge". Like Oddjob.
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Jul 24, 2013 05:26
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Generally, Yuber in previous games was acting as some sort of general or whatever, in charge of the "jesus gently caress why do we have a monster legion" division. So the knight armor made sense, made it clear he was in charge and to be feared. Here he's working with these dudes to do... whatever the hell they're doing, but it seems to be secret and involve a lot of planning so maybe this is his way of keeping a low profile. Also that picture is amazing and shows more personality on Pesmerga than I knew he had.
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GulagDolls posted:hm...you're forgetting something...pesmerga is also in this game!!! He... what?  When is he in this game?Bufuman posted:Great, now I'm imagining Riou attempting to gain impromptu piggyback rides from random Stars of Destiny in his army and I can't stop giggling.  Whoops, this isn't the right Suikoden game. CmdrKing posted:Generally, Yuber in previous games was acting as some sort of general or whatever, in charge of the "jesus gently caress why do we have a monster legion" division. So the knight armor made sense, made it clear he was in charge and to be feared. Here he's working with these dudes to do... whatever the hell they're doing, but it seems to be secret and involve a lot of planning so maybe this is his way of keeping a low profile. His armor was also to reinforce that Yuber is probably not human. (It's never said for sure, I don't think, but it is implied pretty heavily.) It's easier to think of him as some kind of demon monster general crazy guy if he's rocking some ridicu-spikey black armor. He toned down a lot for III so that he could keep a low profile and at least attempt to pass as a human -- his crazy eyes and willingness to announce how much he really hates humans still kinda gives it away, though. And yes, that is probably my favorite picture of Pes, even amongst the many in which he is super badass looking. It's just so 
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That Pesmerga pic is the iest thing in the history of . "I sail the tides of vengeance until the end of days, only then will my ineffable hunger be quenched." "Mr Pesmerga, will you help me fly this kite?" "...okay."
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Jul 24, 2013 06:47
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Another reason to love Lilly; She was poo poo stirring the second biggest psychopath in Suikoden history.
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Jul 24, 2013 06:49
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Testekill posted:Another reason to love Lilly; She was poo poo stirring the second biggest psychopath in Suikoden history. She really is one of my favorite characters in this game, her design is great.
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Jul 24, 2013 11:47
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Chapter 2 for Hugo is easily my favorite one for him, and the absolute biggest reason for that is Lilly. She's the best. She also happens to be quite good in battle, and I have to wonder if Reed and Samus only exist to make you notice how much better Lilly is.
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Jul 24, 2013 12:58
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Can you believe there are actually people who don't like Lily?
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Testekill posted:Another reason to love Lilly; She was poo poo stirring the second biggest psychopath in Suikoden history. Let's not forget her poo poo-talking a 500-year old vampire to his face when she was only 6 years old. She's probably got more moxie than anyone in the Suikoden universe.
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vilkacis posted:
I think the difference comes down to the fact that she's an immensely spoiled brat. The hairsplit is the fact that she's not a malicious spoiled brat, just a very pushy one. So she could definitely rub you the wrong way if you don't appreciate her heroic spirit or her Three Musketeers outfit.
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Jul 24, 2013 20:53
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Speedball posted:if you don't appreciate her heroic spirit or her Three Musketeers outfit. Well in that case you're probably an emotionless robot from Planet X on a mission to destroy humanity anyway.
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Jul 24, 2013 22:03
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vilkacis posted:Well in that case you're probably an emotionless robot from Planet X on a mission to destroy humanity anyway. Or you're Chris Lightfellow.
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Shiki Dan posted:Let's not forget her poo poo-talking a 500-year old vampire to his face when she was only 6 years old. Little known fact: Lily is in possession of the True Moxie Rune.
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Fister Roboto posted:Or you're Chris Lightfellow. 
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Jul 25, 2013 00:02
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^ One has a literal ironhead.
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vilkacis posted:^ One has a literal ironhead. A Dalek with daddy issues?
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Jul 25, 2013 00:41
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vilkacis posted:^ One has a literal ironhead. Only one person can save us.  He might look different this time around though.
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Jul 25, 2013 00:59
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... Okay that is really loving clever. 
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You guys are ridiculous. Also, those are now in the OP.
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Jul 25, 2013 01:27
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vilkacis posted:... I missed it 
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FeyerbrandX posted:Only one person can save us. But what if...we've already met him? 
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We may be going the wrong way, or maybe we've found his companion... Is the blinking mirror larger on the inside than on the outside? e: Dr. Who and Dr. Huh FeyerbrandX fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Jul 25, 2013 |
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Am I the only one who didn't notice Yuber has heterochromia until this happened? I've always liked it from a design standpoint and I think it really helps accentuate the "intense psychopath" look he's got going on there. Also I am consistently amused at the various names you assign to Ornstein and Smough. That one's on me.
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Ceraph posted:Also I am consistently amused at the various names you assign to Ornstein and Smough. That one's on me. I am also consistently amused at Boccor and Adecos. (You might also steal some of Yuri's petnames for them.)
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Raitzeno posted:I am also consistently amused at Boccor and Adecos. (You might also steal some of Yuri's petnames for them.) What, are we just suggesting as many new names as possible for Liz and Ard now? Works for me!
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Ceraph posted:Am I the only one who didn't notice Yuber has heterochromia until this happened? I've always liked it from a design standpoint and I think it really helps accentuate the "intense psychopath" look he's got going on there. Not only are his eyes different colors, but he has two different kinds of pupils too!  His red eye is slitted like a cat and his blue eye is normal. Really I just wanted to draw a grumpy person. Yuber seemed to fit the bill. Ceraph posted:Am I the only one who didn't notice Yuber has heterochromia until this happened? I've always liked it from a design standpoint and I think it really helps accentuate the "intense psychopath" look he's got going on there. Raitzeno posted:I am also consistently amused at Boccor and Adecos. (You might also steal some of Yuri's petnames for them.) Bufuman posted:What, are we just suggesting as many new names as possible for Liz and Ard now? Works for me! I need to come up with some really obscure names for Koume and Kotake, and then maybe have a contest once I'm done to see if someone can get all the references. The prize will be
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