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Latest update includes updated AI that seems to do a better job trying to evade the player, and also more voice stuff. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IHjz0MAD9I From the video description: quote:I rewrote the AI!
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The game itself sounds awesome, but count me among the "I hope the graphics are going to get an overhaul" crowd. I may have grown up in the early 80s when stick people and tiny color blobs were state of the art, and I'm not usually a person to require crazy good grahpics to enjoy a game. But those don't look simplistic. They look lazy. But in my head, it pretty much screams "quick and dirty assets for design and testing", and if that is the case then I'm not worried at all. Freespace mixed with Homeworld seems like a perfect combination.
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Feb 22, 2013 05:33
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This looks a lot like a faster paced Starshatter with a bit of Homeworld's art direction. This is an awesome thing. I don't really mind the graphics so much, but I do hope the ships end up fairly detailed.
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Feb 22, 2013 08:50
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The game is starting to look slightly prettier:
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drat, that is looking really nice. I read in his blog that he does want some big ships as well so I am starting to get really interested in this project.
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I hope he has some sort of beta we can put money on, I'd totally support it. I hope that there will be some sort of co-op, I totally digged that in Star Wars X-Wing Alliance.
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Mar 11, 2013 23:33
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Awwww yeaahhhh
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Mar 14, 2013 00:56
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I need this game.
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Mar 14, 2013 02:50
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Yay, he is going for a sort of Homeworld style simple/colorful texturing with gratuitous early 80s scifi stripes.
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Mar 14, 2013 08:21
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Wow, this looks really good! Its exactly what i wanted back when playing Homeworld Cataclysm. Loving that homeworld vibe, hope he keeps sharpening up the looks because i always preferred this "space is an ocean" / "Space is not very empty and very, very glowly" aesthetic. 
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Mar 16, 2013 02:14
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Here's another rad gif from this game. Mike Tipul @tipul posted:
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Mar 21, 2013 22:59
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Capital wreckage makes for good cover and terrain variation if it sticks around. Hopefully I can maintain framerate!
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Mar 21, 2013 23:27
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god I wish there were a million videos and pictures of this game I could pour over for hours so I had more things to say about this game 
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Chalk me up as another person absolutely slavering at the sight of this game. Also, at the risk of prolonging an already tired debate, one who likes very much how it looks so far. Hell, I'd love it if it actually did take place in the Flotilla universe, with Rasta Cats and fascist antelopes. I hope it sins more on the side of smooth shading than greebles everywhere. But seeing as how the discussion here seems torn between the two, I don't see anything keeping the dev from allowing mods which would at least allow the possibility for players to express their own style choices. Putting that away for a moment, I take it this is single player only? Because I would throw about twice the money at this game if I could force my friends to play it with me.
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Mar 23, 2013 09:37
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As always, heavily WIP: 
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Mar 28, 2013 00:14
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TychoCelchuuu posted:As always, heavily WIP: Homeworld carrier bays, Freespace explosions, I can't even.
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Mar 28, 2013 00:17
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Did the HUD get a bit more refined/detailed more recently? It looks like it is providing more information than it used to.
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Mar 28, 2013 00:29
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Looks unchanged from the OP screenshots to me.
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ghetto wormhole posted:Homeworld carrier bays, Freespace explosions, I can't even. Now all we need are the capital-class laser weapons from Freespace 2*, and... well, if there isn't a Donate button on the website (can't check at work), there should be. Mike Tipul, I want to give you some money. I like how the paragraph in the OP makes the story (as much as it exists, anyway) sound like the WH40K Imperium in the times of the Great Crusades. FOR THE EMPRAH  * Has to have the right sound effects, though. Hell, just steal them straight from FS2, I sure wouldn't mind. rrrrrRRRBERRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrr Ciaphas fucked around with this message at 00:52 on Mar 28, 2013 |
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Mar 28, 2013 00:50
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Are the gifs coming from his twitter feed?
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Mar 28, 2013 01:42
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doctorfrog posted:Are the gifs coming from his twitter feed?
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Speaking of "do these show up anywhere other than twitter," he just posted an update on the game's progress including information about lead reticles, which features this picture: (Plus the other pictures. So, don't fear - even if you stop reading this thread, you don't have to keep up on twitter to learn about progress._
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Mar 28, 2013 05:05
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Speaking of "do these show up anywhere other than twitter," he just posted an update on the game's progress including information about lead reticles, which features this picture: I like that style of lead reticle - his reasoning for it is exactly what I thought it would be; it increases the visual focus on the target, rather than on an arbitrary point in space in front of the target. Dominic White fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Mar 28, 2013 |
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Mar 28, 2013 05:09
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Are those supposed to be nebula/gas clouds in the backgrounds of those GIFs? With the sunset-like orange coloring it would almost seem like atmospheric flight, if it weren't for the stellar objects in the backgrounds.
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That seems like a really backwards way of having lead reticles work, at least compared to other games. I don't think it is a bad thing necessarily, but it does make my brain hurt a little just out of unfamiliarity.
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Zaodai posted:That seems like a really backwards way of having lead reticles work, at least compared to other games. I don't think it is a bad thing necessarily, but it does make my brain hurt a little just out of unfamiliarity. Honestly I took one look at it and thought 'that's loving genius, why aren't other games allowing that?' Maybe it's just brain wiring, but seeing it as 'where your weapons are going to go at this distance from your target' as opposed to the more standard 'aim here to hit if the enemy doesn't jink' makes it much easier for me to visualize where I want to be moving.
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Mar 28, 2013 05:12
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Ciaphas posted:Are those supposed to be nebula/gas clouds in the backgrounds of those GIFs? With the sunset-like orange coloring it would almost seem like atmospheric flight, if it weren't for the stellar objects in the backgrounds. Zaodai posted:That seems like a really backwards way of having lead reticles work, at least compared to other games. I don't think it is a bad thing necessarily, but it does make my brain hurt a little just out of unfamiliarity.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:Speaking of "do these show up anywhere other than twitter," he just posted an update on the game's progress including information about lead reticles, which features this picture: I really dig this reticle style. Hope he keeps it in like that.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:And by "really backwards" you must mean "better than every game that has ever been made and so smart and good that any game that doesn't use the same style in the future is needlessly shooting itself in the foot" and yes I agree. But unlike you, unfamiliarity does not make my brain hurt. It makes my brain happy. Well if you want to be a smug dick about it, sure. I would say it is more likely that I've shot enough guns in real life (though admittedly not at spaceships) that I'm used to having to lead a target with my sights, not have my focus pulled away from them. So to my brain, it is completely backwards. [EDIT] And just to reiterate, I never said it was a BAD system. I said it wasn't easily adaptable for me, personally. I didn't make any demands it be changed, or act like I was speaking for everyone. Zaodai fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Mar 28, 2013 |
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Mar 28, 2013 05:21
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The excellent BSG flight sim Diaspora also used that reticle style, and I imagine they drew on the same inspiration - it's a gunsight mode used in modern fighter aircraft.
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Zaodai posted:Well if you want to be a smug dick about it, sure. General Battuta posted:The excellent BSG flight sim Diaspora also used that reticle style, and I imagine they drew on the same inspiration - it's a gunsight mode used in modern fighter aircraft.
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TychoCelchuuu posted:You do still have to lead the target with your sights. This just adds a lead indicator that shows where your shots will land, if you're curious. I know. Conceptually, I understand what the sight is doing. I'm sure in time, I'll get used to doing it this way. I'll just have to retrain my brain to work that way. Alternately, if there is an option to turn the lead indicator off entirely and just have to deal with manual aiming, I'd totally be down for that. WW2 in space! 
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Zaodai posted:I know. Conceptually, I understand what the sight is doing. I'm sure in time, I'll get used to doing it this way. I'll just have to retrain my brain to work that way. Alternately, if there is an option to turn the lead indicator off entirely and just have to deal with manual aiming, I'd totally be down for that. WW2 in space! They had lead indicators in WW2 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyro_gunsight 
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What I'm trying to figure out is what the two ladders on the HUD mean. One might be range and the other speed, hard to tell. [edit] Also I loving love that gunsight method and wish more games used it. The only games I can think of that do are Diaspora, as mentioned, and Ace Combat. Galaga Galaxian fucked around with this message at 06:26 on Mar 28, 2013 |
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Galaga Galaxian posted:What I'm trying to figure out is what the two ladders on the HUD mean. One might be range and the other speed, hard to tell. Looks to me like the left is some kind of galactic center (a reference plane? astronomers give me the right term), the right one is distance to target in meters?
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While the idea for the lead indicator is cool in theory, I think it will be frustrating to use in practice. Notice how the location of the indicator relative to your cross-hair floats around. You have to mentally manage three variables at once now: the direction of your ship, the position of the enemy on the screen, and the position of the lead indicator on the screen. You're steering your ship to try to nudge this floating green circle on top of the enemy, rather than just pointing your cross-hairs at a moving lead indicator. It seems backwards because it's adding an unnecessary layer of abstraction to whole thing.
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It's a lot easier to hit an evasive target by knowing where your shots are going to go than it is by aiming at him using his current trajectory IMO.
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timn posted:While the idea for the lead indicator is cool in theory, I think it will be frustrating to use in practice. In practice it's not that bad. It works really well during close pursuit when you're trying to make the same turns as your target. I've spent years and years with flight sims that use the classic lead indicator model and I had no trouble swapping over (and back).
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ghetto wormhole posted:It's a lot easier to hit an evasive target by knowing where your shots are going to go than it is by aiming at him using his current trajectory IMO. Assuming you can keep up when the targeting response to your control input isn't instantly predictable. To me it looks like the difference between pushing a coin around with a stick and actually putting your finger on it and moving it where you want it to go. Maybe muscle memory and practice helps to compensate, but when I imagine dropping this system into a game like Freespace with very quick and erratic enemies it becomes an exercise in frustration.
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timn posted:Assuming you can keep up when the targeting response to your control input isn't instantly predictable. To me it looks like the difference between pushing a coin around with a stick and actually putting your finger on it and moving it where you want it to go. I wish you'd read my post. I have literally spent hours playing a game on the FreeSpace engine with quicker and more erratic enemies than FreeSpace and this type of gunsight works fine (better, maybe - it certainly seemed to make it easier to get shots on Raiders). It wasn't difficult to make the switch, or too hard to switch back. Shame on you for not playing that excellent game, too! (And even if you still disagree with me you can just go give it a shot there).
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