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Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Metal Loaf posted:

I'd say appearances are deceiving; it debuted after only a couple of days worth of airplay and once it had been available for a full week it went up eighty places to #4. The same thing happened to "We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together" last year; it debuted at #72 based on early radio attention then shot straight up to #1 as soon as it was available to download.

Too bad that, while 'We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together' is an amazing song from a pretty great album, 'Suit & Tie' is a bit poo poo, especially coming from the man who brought sexy back. Doesn't fill me with confidence for his next album.

Same goes for 'Scream & Shout' - a collaboration between dreadful hitmaker Will.i.am and Britney Spears. Is partly saved by Britney's ridiculous British accent.

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Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Metal Loaf posted:

I actually think the Max Martin songs are the weakest on Red, but I guess that's a pretty generic opinion. I guess I don't think she has the voice for them.

Well my overall tastes lean towards Max Martin-ish stuff (seriously, what a guy), but this is pop so everyone has something they like/dislike.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Tired Moritz posted:

I really like Ke$ha's Out Alive.
This is embarassing.

What would've been embarrassing is if you had come here and said you liked zoophilia or something.

Listen to what you want, give zero fucks, there are no such things as guilty pleasures because if you like it you like it and that is that.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



prahanormal posted:

I don't really see how anyone could justify listening to Chris Brown, even if we ignore how lovely of a person he is.

I quite liked 'Beautiful People'. The one where he is having a wank with Autotune is terrible. Those are the Chris Brown songs I remember.

He's a piece of poo poo though.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Danger - Octopus! posted:

The most recent release by Charli XCX is really good, and catchy as hell. http://youtu.be/qtrHH1BDlzk

She is one of my favourite pop ladies at this moment. 'Nuclear Seasons' and 'You're The One' are my favourites and people should check them out. It's a bit sad though because it seemed 'You're The One' was supposed to be her big push in the UK and well it didn't really take off and that's a real shame. And you might say that 'hey charting is not important it's about true artistic credibility' or some poo poo like that well gently caress off it feels nice when someone you like charts high and that also means they might actually earn some money and not get dropped after a single which was released 5 months after the previous one which went top 10 and expect that to do well without any promo.

Seriously managements are completely retarded sometimes.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Metal Loaf posted:

I'm given to understand that very little money goes into artist development in the current industry. I recall reading interviews given by Lou Gramm (lead vocalist of Foreigner) and Steve Johnstad (lead vocalist of Mayday) who concurred that, yes, rock music in the 1980s may have been corporate, but in their experience the corporations were more likely to give bands a chance to grow and didn't always expect them to be a huge hit straight out of the gate.

What they essentially suggested was that artists were once investments for their labels, they're on the road to becoming get-rich-quick schemes.

I can see that. The number of artists dropped after their first poorly managed releases is pretty big and, as naive as it may be, I'd like to believe that, yes launching an artist is expensive and a big risk, but at least giving them a chance could turn to a success/profit later on. Surely 10 disappointing/poo poo/write-off attempts cost more than 2-3 proper ones with a chance to be something.

Then again the world is a fickle place where no-one can really guarantee what will and what will not do well regardless of marketing and whether the music is there or isn't.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



As long as Fun don't win anything ('We Are Young' is sooooo dull, holy poo poo) I'll be relatively happy. Oh and nothing for 'Mumford & Sons' either. Look just let me have this, OK?

Regarding the nominations (on Wiki) it's somewhat be expected (although I can't really say anything about Contemporary Christian). I don't know if I want 'Stronger' or 'We Are Never…' to get ROTY - quite a dilemma, I'm guessing 'channel ORANGE' gets AOTY and 'Call Me Maybe' for SOTY?

Also looking at that list I'm reminded of how much I enjoyed 'Wide Awake' and 'Shake It Out' while not really liking 'Where Have You Been' and despising 'Payphone'.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



JT is blabbering about every song (11 songs) on the album being 7-8 minutes long.

poo poo Justin 3 and a half minutes is the true length to any pop song what the hell is this?

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



HorseRenoir posted:

I actually kind of like that Justin goes balls-out with the self-indulgent track lengths; it makes him stand out from other pop artists. Besides, most of his long tracks either don't feel that long or are just two regular songs stuck together.

I have nothing against long tracks but every track on an album being one may be a bit too much. All the possible singles would need some extensive editing for them to not sound like a poo poo radio edit. I guess it depends on the songs he has - if they are 7-8 minutes long because of a 2 minute intro/outro then trimming those gets you a 4 minute song. If not then you might end up with a jarring mess.

Oh and don't inexplicably slap some filters and autotune and poo poo on the edit if there are none on the album version, that's just silly.

E - Speaking of radio edits the alleged radio edit of 'Mirrors' has surfaced and it's literally the long one that fades out at the 4 and a half minute mark. I guess it works for a ballad.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



I think 'Trift Shop' is not very good. It going #1 is not a big surprise, though.

Metal Loaf posted:

Speaking of novelty singles, which does everybody think are the best (for a certain value of "best")? I have a curious affection for "The Smurf Song" by Father Abraham and the version of "Fog On the Tyne" recorded by Lindisfarne featuring Paul Gascoigne. They are unimaginably bad, but in a fascinating way.

Gazzas effort is incredible and is exactly something he would do (also he was drunk as hell).

Mr Blobby is great, partly due to the video. Bob the Builder was poo poo, though.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Metal Loaf posted:

When he yells, "C'MON!" at the start, that's the the instant you know exactly what kind of experience you're in for.

Even so, could you imagine somebody like, for example, Ashley Cole doing that?

I can't imagine ANYONE doing something like this without it feeling off, like a bad promo cash-grab while Gazza is… earnest? Truly a product of it's time. Although Frimpong appeared on his cousins (I think) track and he seemed to be having a good time.

What I'm trying to say is... stay dench?

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



That's pretty interesting. I know quite many people who use YouTube as their primary method of listening to music, but that's mostly because we don't have Spotify or anything like that. Although how do they deal with multiple views? People usually buy a song once or twice and you'd still get a relatively accurate result, but with YouTube and other streaming services you can't just use the view count, even with IP checks.

In other news Taylor Swift killed it at the Brits and was the only worthwhile part.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Benne posted:

Man I would hope they have some other way of calculating the Youtube data than simple page views. Otherwise, what's stopping a 4chan/reddit raid from getting, say, Anal stinkyhole on the charts?

I imagine they at least have IP checks - only the first view from an IP is counted so when you go on a binge it doesn't count 50 plays, but that doesn't help with non-static IP addresses and DHCP which is what I think most ISPs use so they'd need to use something else, like maybe only counting users who have logged in.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Reminds me when, I think in 2009, a bunch of people on Facebook started a thing to get Rage Against The Machine's 'Killing In The Name' as the UK Number 1 Christmas single and did it, with digital sales only.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Danger - Octopus! posted:

Going to see Girls Aloud on Monday. Really excited about it!

Girls Aloud loving rule and I will fight everyone who disagrees.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Blodskur posted:

Their singles boxset is literally the best singles compilation in existence also. I hope their album/b-side/live collection coming out in May has unreleased stusio tracks, but knowing Fascination...urgh.

I don't have the box

About time with the b-sides, though. Oh and a HD videos release would be nice for closer examination of all the £50 choreography.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Blodskur posted:

I doubt any of their videos before Out Of Control were in HD, and to be honest; I'm not entirely too sure that they were, either.

A man can dream

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Blodskur posted:

Anyone here into Ellie Goulding? It's been really difficult to pin down much of a community for her online that doesn't do anything but tumblr likes and twitter retweets. There's no forums for her at all that I would describe as alive. Maybe there isn't much to say about her, I guess.

Hi.

I like her. You could say she is quite ...uncontroversial? She likes jogging? This is not a bad thing, by all means, but might have a hand in her not being very talked about.

She is the cotton sweater of pop.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



I'm mad jelly over here

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNliJ66WbbU

Outta loving nowhere a new Pet Shop Boys album.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Metal Loaf posted:

While I'm not really much of a fan, I have noticed that Girls Aloud have decided to call it quits. Hadn't they only just got back together?

THEY NEVER BROKE UP, THEY JUST HAD A "YEAR OFF" FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS.

Thanks girls for years of great songs, cool albums, dodgy but entertaining videos and major teenage crushes. All-in-all not bad for a girl group put together on a TV show.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



het posted:

Little Boots released a new track from her upcoming album last week, here's a link to a stream, and it's also available on Spotify: http://music-mix.ew.com/2013/03/18/...ecord-new-song/

I'm really psyched for this album, Hands had so many ridiculously good tracks.

'Motorway' is also available as a free download from her website. I prefer that to 'Broken Record'.

I am also pretty excited for the album, she seems to have gone for a darker, more subdued atmosphere.

Oh and True Romance the much anticipated first album from Charli XCX will be released on April 15th. Get loving in.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



frenchnewwave posted:

I don't know what it is about Flo Rida but I tend to love his radio singles. I feel no shame.

Flo Rida seems like the guy where a producer has come to a label (or vice versa) and they need someone to shout the thing out so they call Mr. Rida and BLAM Top 5.

He earns most of my ire for being a "inexplicably shows up in the middle of a song with a 'rap' and fucks off" guy.

But I guess neither of those things are exactly his fault.

SatansBestBuddy posted:

He does stuff other than make fun of bad music. He also covers one hit wonders of the past, like Take On Me and Come On Eileen. I also think he's better when he's complimenting a song than when he's beating one down, but whatever.

EDIT: And in that spirit, my favourite one hit wonder would be I Believe In A Thing Called Love. Hard to believe that only ten years ago, we were still getting hair metal style music on the charts... this was on the charts, right? It was played all the time on Much, but I don't know about MTV...

Excuse me but A-ha is a very well known band and has had a lot of success in many different countries with many different songs

And 'I Believe In A Thing Called Love' is a great fun song.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Florrie is super cool, but the first EP is the best thing she has done. It's hard to top that.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Paperhouse posted:

I prefer her second EP, the three middle songs are all amazing. Her best tune is probably Left Too Late though. Anyway, I'm really hyped about her proper album because I love her

'Left Too Late' is her best song and the album is going to be great.

I've been blasting the Tegan and Sara album again. 'Shock to Your System' continues to be the best song - the synth flourish thing in the chorus makes me shake uncontrollably.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Haha loving uncanny.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



You can't really say that it's working from the first 48 hours - yes, it has 60 million views but his second release was going to be a 'I'm clicking to see what wacky things that chubby asian man has done now' thing no matter what. I don't think it will be a 'Gangnam Style' success (to be fair if it does half as well it'll still be huge but because it wasn't as astronomical it will be considered a failure somehow).

Metal Loaf posted:

On a recent visit to PopJustice, I was accosted by an article about a new boy band called Union J, who were apparently the One Direction of last year's series of The X Factor, except there are only four of them and I think one of them is gay.

I wonder what their prospects are. I'm pretty sure their single will be a hit here in the UK, but will the residual hype surrounding One Direction carry them to similar success across the water, or will they end up like the Wanted and fail to live up to their early Transatlantic promise?

Well first of all they have an even number of members which is an automatic fail condition (yes, you have JLS but they went and unleashed 'The Club is Alive', which was originally a Flo Rida song but he turned it down (what?)). I think the first single will do alright in the UK but not much after that.

The X-Factor finalist success is pretty hard to predict. I mean you get the usual winners songs (who can disappear after that one song) and some lower placed people like JLS and 1D and Cher Lloyd and Diana Vickers who do pretty well but get dropped and the second album is a joke time-wise (WHERE IS IT VICKO), and then there are the curveballs, like I don't think anyone expected Amelia Lily to break top 20, never mind top 2 (and now she's gone too).

In short - OK-ish in the UK, poo poo in the world.


Oh and the Charli XCX album is great, you should listen to it.

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Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Metal Loaf posted:

What do think the prospects are for James Arthur? He seems kind of awkward to me; not exactly somebody who exudes charisma. I imagine he'll end up in the same boat as Matt Cardle.

I think he is the worst an artist can be - dull. The only thing I can remember is his gratuitous use of mascara? So yeah, Cardle seems to be the one to compare him to (except the mascara, of course).

Paperhouse posted:

The Diana Vickers album should be out later this year! It has a tracklist with track times and everything! And Amelia Lily has a new album out in May! Granted, there's absolutely no guarantee anyone will care about either.

I'll believe that Vickers has a new album out when I am personally listening to it. Same goes for Amelia Lily now that it has already been delayed once, meaning someone isn't happy.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Metal Loaf posted:

It's a problematic mentality that mistakes "dull" for "serious artist" but it still crops up from time to time.

Sorry if I am misunderstanding what you're saying, but I didn't mean that a serious artist is a dull artist. Maybe dull wasn't the right word for him.

Or did you mean that his idea of a serious artist is being monotone and throwing in a forgettable rap?

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



STAND UP AND TURN YOUR SPEAKERS TO MAX BECAUSE PET SHOP BOYS HAVE A NEW SONG OUT AND IT'S NOT "REFLECTIVE" NOR "MOODY" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDCU17wXktY

The albums out on July 15th. God Bless.

Oh and Annie also released a new song but it's kinda poo poo sadly but whatever, the rest will be great.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009




Yeah, the album is pretty great and I can see 'Crescendo' and especially 'Satellite' being my summer tunes.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



het posted:

I'm kinda surprised that Headphones isn't on the record, I liked it as much as I like anything on Nocturnes (though it's arguably higher energy than anything else on the album, maybe it's just that it didn't fit thematically?)

Yeah, it's kinda weird - it's not THAT different to be left off the album. Maybe she just didn't like it.

Metal Loaf posted:

I remember seeing her on an episode of Later... With Jools Holland three, maybe four years ago. I was a bit surprised that she seemed to have just vanished after that.

She had some weird problems with her label, IIRC, plus the usual second album fuckery. She even won the 2009 BBC Sound of thing, but I guess that doesn't really mean much.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Love some Swedish crydance.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Christmas Jones posted:

[…]

Between Pet Shop Boys, The Sounds, Avicii, Florrie, Tiesto, and Gaga, the back half of this year should be amazing. Be nice if one of them besides PSB would actually give us a release date though.

Not to mention new Goldfrapp, Kylie and Ladytron

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



THERE'S AN ANNIE/RICHARD X EP COMING AUGUST 5TH JESUS loving CHRIST

It's 5 songs, it's 'dance influenced pop', it's incredible.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009




Owns.

DominoDancing posted:

Guys, the new Pet Shop Boys album is so good. So, so good. Now I really liked Elysium, but it did have a couple of clunkers on it (not sure I'm ever going to listen to Winner or Give It A Go again). But Electric is good from start to end. Hell, a lot better than good in some places. Love Is A Bourgeois Construct is as fantastic as its name suggests, Example's part on Thursday (which I was a bit apprehensive about) is great, and even those that might have been lesser songs (like Inside A Dream) have something about them that pushes them AT LEAST above average (that great bassline in case of Inside A Dream). I really hope Electric goes over better with the public and fan base than Elysium did, because it really deserves it.

Yeah, saw them live last weekend, they played some Electric songs. It was pretty loving great.

Khagan posted:

I prefer this one Yeah!

Yeah, Lorde owns.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



'Electric' feels like the boys going 'fine you want some bangers here's some loving bangers'.

Also the Annie EP is loving ridiculous holy poo poo.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Just an FYI the CHVRCHES album is really good, 'We Sink', 'Gun', 'Tether' and 'Lies' are my favourites, with 'Recover' being my least and when they let one of the guys have a go (layered in some songs, solo in 'Under The Tide', 'You Caught The Light') it sounds like what the new Naked And Famous album should've been.

Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



poo poo me there's a new Cut Copy album coming November 4th and it's called 'Free Your Mind'. I think 'Zonoscope' wasn't their best but whatever I'm pretty hyped here's two songs from 'Free Your Mind' they're pretty good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-JgJhLyw-w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99eH2iJHVEQ

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Sprat Sandwich
Mar 20, 2009



Metal Loaf posted:

What's the quality of her live vocals like these days? Ever since I first saw this video, I don't think I've ever quite been able to give her a completely fair shake (I guess it was a little out of her range).

Not very good sadly, and if she has some choreo it goes to hell. She has always been the 'worst' of the big pop girls live, IMO.

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