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fractalairduct
Sep 26, 2015

I, Giorno Giovanna, have a dream!


The flashback is 10 years ago from whatever the current date is.

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Varinn
May 3, 2005



cropoval posted:

Is...is the giant bird thing on the chapter cover Ed's mom?

Perhaps more likely it's a spirit she works with, but I'm not liking how this looks.

The thing coming out of the sand? That's gotta be boss leader's spirit, the thing responsible for the dream-headquarters. its shaped more like a moon, to me, and itd make sense if it just lives in the middle of the whole thing

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

MY PAPER SOLDIERS
FORM A WALL
FIVE PACES THICK
AND TWICE AS TALL




fractalairduct posted:

The flashback is 10 years ago from whatever the current date is.
Considering that everyone still has flip phones, and the alternative is "Simpsons time", I think the normal comic being set in 2011 (and thus, this being in 2001) makes the most sense.

rannum
Nov 3, 2012



small correction: Phones are a mix of flip and smart https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-5-page-119


Actually I think Max, Isabel & Ed might be the only flip phones (well not a flip phone in Ed's case but--) in the comic? Johnny's pals also have smartphones. Guess it makes sense those 3 would be behind the times, feel like isabel's grandpa and max's dad would be very "your phone's good enough"

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
too short to worry
She said life's
too long to wait
It's too short not
to love everybody
Life's too long to hate





rannum posted:

small correction: Phones are a mix of flip and smart https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-5-page-119


Actually I think Max, Isabel & Ed might be the only flip phones (well not a flip phone in Ed's case but--) in the comic? Johnny's pals also have smartphones. Guess it makes sense those 3 would be behind the times, feel like isabel's grandpa and max's dad would be very "your phone's good enough"

The actual reason, that their phones are dated by the order in which they were introduced and shown using a phone in this decade old comic, is very funny.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017




rannum posted:

small correction: Phones are a mix of flip and smart https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-5-page-119

The very next page has a Suzy/Dmitri moment. Suzy is wearing frosty pink sunglasses.

Where else in the comic have we seen "frosty pink"?

rannum
Nov 3, 2012



SKULL.GIF posted:

The very next page has a Suzy/Dmitri moment. Suzy is wearing frosty pink sunglasses.

Where else in the comic have we seen "frosty pink"?

Imagine Suzy with the power of erasing

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

There were...
ABSOLUTELY NO CONSEQUENCES.



SKULL.GIF posted:

The very next page has a Suzy/Dmitri moment. Suzy is wearing frosty pink sunglasses.

Where else in the comic have we seen "frosty pink"?

Oh god, she's going to get that pencil, isn't she? And it's been established that exposure to tools can make you a spectral...

pik_d
Feb 24, 2006

follow the white dove





What a face!!


https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-7-page-6

Bongo Bill
Jan 17, 2012

From my point of view, the Jedi are evil. But what really is... evil?

Zack sure is setting up a lot of dominoes.

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012


Boss Leader is sassing us through the 4th wall with that age descriptor.

rannum
Nov 3, 2012



Here ed say hi to your mom! "I'm in a lonely dark prison for the rest of my dies heheheheheh"

rannum
Nov 3, 2012



WE've only seen it twice and the conceit of Dreams probably means this may be nothing but might be worth noting the door's design is fairly different in the modern day https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-6-page-40

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017




Not too much to dissect in this page at first glance. It looks like Gwen (and her husband? But I get the sense that Ed's father's doing something/is someplace different) willingly went into the grudge's dream/prison to try to figure it out. "With your mind, we could solve this from within --"

Agent Walker's comment about "C'mon. Dream ain't stable." suggests that Boss Leader is using her special power to contact Dr. Burger through her dreams -- similar to how she contacted Max through his dream about his mother when he was knocked out after falling from the train.

rannum posted:

WE've only seen it twice and the conceit of Dreams probably means this may be nothing but might be worth noting the door's design is fairly different in the modern day https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-6-page-40

Different expression but still more or less the same appearance: one green side, one purple side, and the colors between the chains alternate. Padlock nosering, top-row teeth at the bottom.

Honestly if anything I bet you that door's harboring the Grudge that Boss Leader and Dr. Gwen are discussing in today's page.

Lt. Lizard
Apr 28, 2013


rannum posted:

WE've only seen it twice and the conceit of Dreams probably means this may be nothing but might be worth noting the door's design is fairly different in the modern day https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-6-page-40

Its expression is more..... jolly? Maybe it is happy that a small part of it hitched a ride in otherwise uninteresting kid with black spectral energy?

Jade Rider
May 11, 2007

All the pages have been censored except for "heck," and she misread that one.




Given they're talking about a grudge, I get the feeling that it's either going to end up being Spender's freaky shadow spirit or possibly (but far less likely) Scrapdragon. Boss Leader called it a grudge while she was talking with Max, if I'm remembering right.

rannum
Nov 3, 2012



I forget all the information we have but wasn't the implication (or at least one of the running theories) being that the scrap dragon is a chunk of the shadow spirit to begin with

could all be parts of the same thing

Rand Brittain
Mar 24, 2013

"Go on until you're stopped."

Is there any particular reason to believe that scrapdragon is tied to the metaplot at all, other than "well, it's the protagonist's spirit partner so it must be important"?

PMush Perfect
Sep 30, 2009

MY PAPER SOLDIERS
FORM A WALL
FIVE PACES THICK
AND TWICE AS TALL




Rand Brittain posted:

Is there any particular reason to believe that scrapdragon is tied to the metaplot at all, other than "well, it's the protagonist's spirit partner so it must be important"?
Not-Max's conversation with Doorman.

flatluigi
Apr 22, 2008

here come the planes


PMush Perfect posted:

Not-Max's conversation with Doorman.

i'd have to do some rereading but i think the implication we have now is that that's something *completely different* than scrapdragon that's possessing max without his knowledge

rannum
Nov 3, 2012



Rand Brittain posted:

Is there any particular reason to believe that scrapdragon is tied to the metaplot at all, other than "well, it's the protagonist's spirit partner so it must be important"?

It's a grudge, so that seems important
Then there's this https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-3-page-39
Which seems like it's probably more related to the scrapdragon than just an innate max thing, even if it winds up technically being a separate thing (
Boss Leader seemed to notice whatever the other presence is too https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-4-page-120 )

Its possible the two are entirely unrelated and Important Thing is just hitching a ride on Max through scrapdragon, which could be any old spirit that was just unlucky.

Other idle thoughts on scrappy:
-black spirit energy, while common, has only been associated with scrap/max & the shadow spirit spender has on lock down iirc
-https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-1-page-39 max was drawn to the bat. Which doesn't seem to be the normal thing that happens
-Someone pointed out ages ago that Davvy, who obviously has his hands in all sorts of pies, in this panel is in the same sports storage as where the bat was https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-5-page-245
-https://www.paranatural.net/comic/chapter-5-page-239 lucifer referring to the shadow spirit('s remnants?) as "worthless scrap" feels a bit more than coincidental

Brought To You By
Oct 31, 2012


I guess the question to be answered would be how neither Boss Leader, the Burgers, nor anyone else realize that a fragment of whatever Grudge is being kept behind that door leaked out. Boss Leader herself doesn't seem to know what Spender is hiding in town if we assume the kids in this arc are going to wind up sealing away the "shadow" within Spender by the end of things.

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
too short to worry
She said life's
too long to wait
It's too short not
to love everybody
Life's too long to hate





Brought To You By posted:

I guess the question to be answered would be how neither Boss Leader, the Burgers, nor anyone else realize that a fragment of whatever Grudge is being kept behind that door leaked out. Boss Leader herself doesn't seem to know what Spender is hiding in town if we assume the kids in this arc are going to wind up sealing away the "shadow" within Spender by the end of things.

Probably it was fragmented when it was sealed and no one noticed.

Inexplicable Humblebrag
Sep 20, 2003

CHU-CHU-CHUCKLEVISION
CHU-CHUCKLEVISION




Who Is Giant Subterranean Insect

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rannum
Nov 3, 2012



Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:

Who Is Giant Subterranean Insect

Hijack mentions a sister who controls emotion and looks like a giant millipede

*taps giant conspiracy corkboard* it's all connected!

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