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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Hope this Murk fellow doesn't stick around. I know Unsounded can get pretty dark at times and deals with unsavory topics but come on*.

What is it about freeform RPers (and White Wolfers, for that matter) that compels them to Get Edgy With It?










*:cripes:

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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Pyradox posted:

He strikes me as more of a Johnny Depp as Sweeny Todd than anything else.

Both in terms of his voice and in terms of being the author's favourite character who we're supposed to find dangerous-but-alluring despite being a murderous nihilistic psycho. Only, you know, without the few redeeming qualities Sweeny possesses.

Speaking of which, looks like Duane's not going to save Sette us from having to spend any more time with him that easily.

When a creator puts his or her heart and soul out there for everyone to see, this might include some tastes that don't quite mesh with everyone else's sensibilities. That's more than fine, it's fair. Ms. Cope is writing for herself first and foremost, and if we enjoy the ride all the better.

If we get kind of weirded out by some of the attractions along the way, though, that's also fine and fair and entirely within our prerogatives as readers. It's not like we're demanding she change her work to cater to us, we're just not-so-quietly hoping her favorite fetish rapist OP goes away soon so we can go back to morally grey adventure storytime.

She's probably have fun with this at any rate. He's her favorite casual villain, and she also gets to watch her not-fangirl readers squirm.

"Is Murkoph going to exit stage left? NOPE. How about now? HAHAH. :v: "

If he does stick around, though, that might make for slightly little uncomfortable reading here on out.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

PleasingFungus posted:

So, I'm a bit slow. What's going on in this update, exactly?

Someone's getting a peek at somebody's childhood memories, I'm guessing. Note the eye color.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Nanomashoes posted:

...You'd think they'd start locking up Duane's books or something with how often this has happened.

Maybe they do. Maybe the young lady's figured out her way around locks.

Like a certain somebody.*

*Just a joke, not actionable speculation.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Roland Jones posted:

Your actions crush my SOUL!

Duane is such a dork and it's awesome. Also I really hope the twist isn't that the kids and family died because they're great too.

"Twist?" If there's going to be a twist, it's that the family survives and only Duane bites it in the end. Honestly, politics in Alderode seems a dangerous business and here's this blonde schmuck with a loving family getting promoted into a life of ecclesiastical espionage.

I'm just dreading the inevitable dropping of the other shoe here.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

The real reason Duane doesn't want to go to Cresce: He's a bad kisser and this embarrasses him terribly.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

In Cresce, greed is a crime, the idea of which I find rather unsettling. I do wonder if they're anywhere near as bad as Alderode, though, because Alderode is bad.

Quigley probably thought they were the lesser of two evils (or at least convenient allies) at one point, before deciding he was better off doing business elsewhere. Nevermind that this landed him in some sickeningly deplorable company that he's only recently cut himself from.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Tollymain posted:

Wonder why a boy that young has a prosthetic limb like that :raise:

His job requires him to be armed at all times.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Wow, I'd have done a lot more than just punch the guy. What a knobend.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

This slow-motion shoe-dropping sequence is like the bullet time of preparing to be very, very sad.

If Duane's entire family gets killed then Alderode can gently caress right off.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Drakyn posted:

Honestly, so much characterization being packed in so densely in such a small space makes me MORE nervous. That, and she's been having a great day aside from the woops forgot to remind dad not to punch some man now he's cross thing. I mean
-It's her birthday.
-She got to hang around with a boy she is crushing on for half the day.
-Her uncle let her ride a crazy skyflythingy.
-Her daddy just promised her he'd teach her how to do magic crazy stuff that she had pretty much zero hope of ever learning any other way, ever, ever, ever.
With that setup, I'm dreading that the only way she's getting out of this alive is if surviving makes her life so lousy she wishes she hadn't.

Yeah, maybe I'm a natural pessimist, but she's getting so much characterization in such a short time that I can't help but assume it's to make her death as tragic as possible. Which is not a bad thing, and if you have to introduce a character whose tragic death is a major motivator for one of your main characters, you sure as heck better make sure the reader feels it.

Also it's not confirmed whether that vision of Mikaila was just a hallucination or not.

Expecting the worst, though hoping for the best.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Black comedy is never not appropriate for Unsounded, even when it's inappropriate. And Ashley Cope is nothing if not a lovely art engine fueled by dark humours.

While I mentioned before that some of her sensibilities tended to skew similarly to the "dark and edgy" RPer crowd, we've seen that unlike most of that sort--who would vainly pursue an ideal of "maturity" in the most juvenile and overblown ways possible--Ms. Cope's work combines humor, levity, and a sense of dramatic contrast that shows that she knows how to put her sensibilities to best use.

I could call Unsounded a "mature" comic, but that would be doing it a disservice. This is the work of someone who's actually matured to the point where maturity isn't an affectation that must be forced but rather an aspect of the self that is simply understood so as not to interfere with a vivid imagination capable of wit, subtlety, charisma, and startling violence.

Ashley Cope is probably an interesting person to hang out with, yes.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Yeah, Ashley Cope did a good job here. Can't wait for the next update, and I hope she enjoys her break.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Hey ninja why don't you take off your mask. Oh, you're waiting until Duane can't see you anymore, okay.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

idonotlikepeas posted:

Thoughts about this last page:

1. They clearly did something unusual to Duane, because they asked for him to be alive before they did it. Did whatever it was result in his condition, or was there another purpose to it we haven't seen yet? If they were making him into an undead horror, why just leave him in the snow there as a message? If they were leaving him as a message, why not kill him normally?
2. I don't see Mikaila's dead deceased corpse anywhere.
3. According to Ssaelit belief, Ssael was betrayed and died but the Khert didn't take his memories. He wandered around in it for a while looking for a purpose before the whole deicide thing occurred to him. Duane is wandering the Khert here after his betrayal and death. Is there a connection?
4. Sette is just finding it harder and harder to laugh Duane off as an attack zombie.
5. Goddamned Murkoph. Why are you here? Why are you even a thing? I sure hope somebody stabs you in the face repeatedly before you start making GBS threads up the story. (I know this isn't going to happen, but let me dream.)

Not only do I agree with everything you said, I'm going to add to the list.

6. gently caress Alderode.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Yeah, I was iffy at first but I'm more than willing to give Ms. Cope the benefit of the doubt.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Axiem posted:

Jeeze that's subtle.

And creepy!

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Or mercantilism. Or physiocracy. Or bothers to explore economics at all. But to be honest most of our modern economic understanding is a relatively recent development so fantasy using systems outwardly similar to capitalism is understandable, even if their business world lacks the philosophical understandings that underpin generally capitalist economies.

Cresce's switch to a moneyless, non-credit socialism seems to address perceived symptoms more than any real problems. Meet the new wealth, same as the old wealth. Except with an extra veneer of shaming and a distinct value-vagueness. And you can shame greed all you like, doesn't mean the Queen isn't going to shut your town down for a lack of productivity value. And since there's no money, there's no measure of indication that the town can produce value independent of any mines or such.

And even if there's no money, there's still a distinct aristocracy that's divorced from the concerns and values of the common people. Greed manifests itself in more than just a lust for coin, and Cresce demonstrates this in a lot of ways.

Neither Cresce nor Alderode are very nice places to be.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Fabricated posted:

also the bottom right corner of today's comic:

No, your other right. :v:

Stockyard might be a charmingly loathsome monster of a rogue, but his comparison of Cresce to a giant company town feels appropriate.

I have to wonder if Duane's talented enough to crack the encryption on everyone's labourcoin wallets. And if the Frummagems already knew that.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Well poo poo.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Count me among those who found Murkoph's metahumor more groan-inducing than funny, really.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Somewhat, but it's fine. And also delightfully appropriate for its owner.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

It's been pretty clear there's a major political conspiracy going on and the main cast of characters are just on the ground floor of it all. Wouldn't be surprised if Elan knows more than we do.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

While I'm no expert, when it comes to being stabbed, them organs probably are the most vital and important for survivin', to boot.

Positively critical, even.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

PleasingFungus posted:

Well, for what it's worth, it's been fairly strongly implied that he's wrong - the first silver is part of a palace conspiracy to kill the Queen and replace her government, not something ordered by the Queen herself. Seems like Elan took what Stockyard told him and leapt to the wrong conclusions.

Fair enough, with the hiatus it can be a little hard to keep track. Also how some characters deliberately choose to be obtuse at times.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Toby got first draw.

He's hosed.

Rime posted:

I like that a mask which is supposed to be imposing agony and torture beyond measure upon Duane, basically just has him doing his job back in shartshane. :allears:

Not even the dead can know peace from this evil.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Jackard posted:

Sounds like that's what he's saying - toby is hosed

:ocelot:

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Kinda wondering how much of this is memory and how much is just the magic torture mask.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Most of us who aren't Down With the Murk are still reading and have managed to restrain our distaste to a couple of off-hand jokes as seen above. As you can see, everyone really is giving Cope the benefit of the doubt.

In fact, this current line of discussion was mostly brought about by you griping about a long-past multipage derail everyone else had already gotten over.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

I imagine his reaction will be, roughly, "Who are you?" and "Hey get off me." In that order.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

A wire garrote can both choke and cut, and Toby's already bleeding around the neck. His odds are pretty low.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Bird's had tits this entire time bro

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Just counting the pages till Starfish finally bites it.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Hell at this point I'm assuming Murkoph is Ssael and I just don't like him. Not even a love to hate sort of thing, just an overall dislike.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Right?

I got a chuckle out of that.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Duane might be a wordy-rear end mofo but his eyes say a lot with so little.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

For some reason, completely unsubstantiated of course, I feel like letting Cutter get caught up in the blob would be like giving a Gundam a pilot.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

I think the green-haired girl was one of the nice ones.

Runa
Feb 13, 2011

Better not stay that way.

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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

same

Oxxidation posted:

THIS GUY loving CALLED IT

Congrats to him, though since he posted it I figured everybody assumed he was right.

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