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HolePisser1982
Nov 3, 2002

FAUXTON posted:

Is that a goku

lol, forgot to apply the one true standardized test for new inks

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SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

add a hair fringe and say it's Mr. Satan the first time he realizes the Z Fighters are demigods

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

HolePisser1982 posted:

lol, forgot to apply the one true standardized test for new inks

junji ito style goku then

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012
unsettlingly elongated goku

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

mortons stork posted:

unsettlingly elongated goku

kaio-krrr krrr krr

Fearless
Sep 3, 2003

HolePisser1982 posted:

illustration of three levels of black pigment: lightest/glossiest is Pentel pigment black, middle dark is Platinum Chou Kuro, darkest is Faber Castell Musou Black (acrylic). the pentel pigment black is a totally good ink! but it's funny how quickly it can look like a midtone when placed against these super dark ones

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I don't have much to add with regards to the inks, but I like how you've used the different pigment levels to deepen the shadows. It really gives the drawing a sense of depth, so much so that at first glance I thought you'd actually layered a couple of pieces of paper.

HolePisser1982
Nov 3, 2002

Fearless posted:

I don't have much to add with regards to the inks, but I like how you've used the different pigment levels to deepen the shadows. It really gives the drawing a sense of depth, so much so that at first glance I thought you'd actually layered a couple of pieces of paper.

thank you very much!! i've been really enjoying that sense of depth, it gives the eye a little something to puzzle out in a satisfying way. curious to see if adding touches of an iridescent/sheening black gives it even more visual interest or if it ends up being too much. but yeah, appreciate it!

Chip McFuck
Jul 24, 2007

We droppin' like a comet and this Vulcan tried to Spock it/These Martians tried to do it, but knew they couldn't cop it

Anyone have a recommendation for a top-bound (glued or otherwise), letter-sized paper pad that has a toothier paper than the smoothness of Rhodia?

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

Chip McFuck posted:

Anyone have a recommendation for a top-bound (glued or otherwise), letter-sized paper pad that has a toothier paper than the smoothness of Rhodia?

I think Franklin Christoph makes a top bound spiral notebook. I can't stand Rhodia, but I don't mind this. Though it's not as good to me as Midori. So that probably counts?

Chip McFuck
Jul 24, 2007

We droppin' like a comet and this Vulcan tried to Spock it/These Martians tried to do it, but knew they couldn't cop it

Midori is my gold standard for now as I absolutely love the way their paper feels, but unfortunately their paper pads are lacking. Either they have glue on two sides or come in pastel colors, which are unfortunately features I don't need.

This search started because I got a Life bank paper pad but only after the purchase did I learn that bank paper was discontinued by them years ago. I love the pad but now I need something different that I know won't run out.

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

are you looking for sticky note-type pads or just like, legal-style pads with Midori's paper? If the latter, have you ever looked into make your own? I think you can make some simple binders with just stuff from the grocery store.

Chip McFuck
Jul 24, 2007

We droppin' like a comet and this Vulcan tried to Spock it/These Martians tried to do it, but knew they couldn't cop it

Basically I'm looking for a letter-sized legal pad, which to me has always been called a 'paper pad' though now I realize that might be a regional word for them.

Making my own is a good option that I haven't considered. I do like bookbinding so its something to think about. I'll have to see if Midori makes loose sheets of their gridded paper as thats probably my favorite.

Edit: I should clarify: for size, I mean US letter size paper, or A4.

Chip McFuck fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Dec 9, 2025

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012
Letter-sized and A4 caused my brain to briefly short-circuit.

On to the topic, but do you have any retailers around you who sell Oxford? I think that company bought out Clairefontaine recently, and while the one Clairefontaine notebook I got was glossy, shiny, and so slippery it made most of my pens slide right off, I've had a good experience with Oxford paper, in that it took ink pretty nicely, the page had a nice, hefty feeling and didn't feel as treated as the glossy polished shine of the clairefontaine. I would still advise you check one physically first, but that may be difficult depending on your location.

e: although, looking on amazon, i'm not quite sure the Oxford in the US is the same company as that in Europe, so someone else might need to weigh in on that.

mortons stork fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Dec 10, 2025

hydroceramics
Jan 8, 2014

Chip McFuck posted:

Basically I'm looking for a letter-sized legal pad, which to me has always been called a 'paper pad' though now I realize that might be a regional word for them.

Making my own is a good option that I haven't considered. I do like bookbinding so its something to think about. I'll have to see if Midori makes loose sheets of their gridded paper as thats probably my favorite.

Edit: I should clarify: for size, I mean US letter size paper, or A4.

You might try searching with the term "steno pad."

Zenostein
Aug 15, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:
A steno pad is a specific sort of lined pad, and I think they have a specific size, too.

I think the generic term for what most people would just call a legal pad (regardless of size) is just "writing tablet," although that's probably been poisoned by tablet computers.

But yeah, they're basically just sheets of paper, maybe with perforations to make them the appropriate height, stapled to a bit of cardboard (or I guess glued to the bit of paper that wraps around the top). Shouldn't be too hard to make your own, if you really wanted.

howe_sam
Mar 7, 2013

Creepy little garbage eaters

mortons stork posted:

e: although, looking on amazon, i'm not quite sure the Oxford in the US is the same company as that in Europe, so someone else might need to weigh in on that.

So far as I know, Black'n'Red is the only readily available product in the US that uses Oxford's Optik paper.

hydroceramics
Jan 8, 2014

Zenostein posted:

A steno pad is a specific sort of lined pad, and I think they have a specific size, too.

I think the generic term for what most people would just call a legal pad (regardless of size) is just "writing tablet," although that's probably been poisoned by tablet computers.

But yeah, they're basically just sheets of paper, maybe with perforations to make them the appropriate height, stapled to a bit of cardboard (or I guess glued to the bit of paper that wraps around the top). Shouldn't be too hard to make your own, if you really wanted.

A search for a4 steno pad brings up pretty much what he's looking for minus the paper quality, which I can't speak to.

Chip McFuck
Jul 24, 2007

We droppin' like a comet and this Vulcan tried to Spock it/These Martians tried to do it, but knew they couldn't cop it

Decided to go ahead and make my own as an experiment. Bound with stab binding, it came together in an afternoon. Paper inside is 50 sheets of Kokuyo Business Paper which, while not as toothy as I'd like, has a nice, velvety feel and works really well with fountain pens.

I also repaired my first touchdown filler and it writes wonderfully now!

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

https://www.jetpens.com/Sailor-TUZU-Adjust-Fountain-Pen-Glassy-Crystal-Sky-Broad-Limited-Edition/pd/50055
now that's a neat idea. They have a faceted section, but the "Adjust" title refers to how you can move the facets around to match how you actually hold the pen.

Actually, it's been a while since I took the feed out of a Safari and I have none at hand. Is it possible to put the feed and nib into a Safari off-axis?

Sankis
Mar 8, 2004

But I remember the fella who told me. Big lad. Arms as thick as oak trees, a stunning collection of scars, nice eye patch. A REAL therapist he was. Er wait. Maybe it was rapist?


It's been awhile since I did as well but my memory of lamy nibs and feeds is that the nib kinda slides on in a way that you can't really mess up and the feed fits in the pen body in a similar way. I remember it seeming pretty idiot proof.

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Sankis posted:

idiot proof.

Lamy obviously hasn't met me yet.

mortons stork
Oct 13, 2012

SixteenShells posted:

https://www.jetpens.com/Sailor-TUZU-Adjust-Fountain-Pen-Glassy-Crystal-Sky-Broad-Limited-Edition/pd/50055
now that's a neat idea. They have a faceted section, but the "Adjust" title refers to how you can move the facets around to match how you actually hold the pen.

Actually, it's been a while since I took the feed out of a Safari and I have none at hand. Is it possible to put the feed and nib into a Safari off-axis?

I haven't disassembled my lamy in a while but IIRC the pen grip has either some dents or a shaped hole for the feed to only go in one way, the right (tm) way, and that should be in-axis with the grip.

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

Thanks y'all. Darn, I was kind of hoping I was on to something neat to try out. I suppose one could file off the nubs that index the feed but that sounds like more effort than needed.

reitetsu
Sep 27, 2009

Should you find yourself here one day... In accordance with your crimes, you can rest assured I will give you the treatment you deserve.
Did anyone else get the Colorverse Inkvent calendar this year? I'm trying to pick my favorite three and haven't decided yet, but the ones I've been using so far are Erebus Crater, Apollon, and Cosmic Reef. I also really like LGM, but haven't inked it up in anything as yet.

I was attempting to swatch some out last night, which I'm realizing I don't really know how to do. And, in the process, managed to break the tip off the Dominant Industry Ink Muddler I just. got. from Goldspot Pens. :cry:

At least the muddler part still works, and is fantastic for stirring up glistening inks. Maybe I'll actually use some of the ones I have.

teethgrinder
Oct 9, 2002

Safety Dance posted:

Lamy obviously hasn't met me yet.
I'm still in denial and was just in shock when it happened a few weeks ago... but I dropped my fancy expensive limited edition green Lamy 2000 a few feet and ... it loving snapped in half. It was barely used. My original 2000 went through 10+ years of stress, and probably dropped many times before a collar eventually split.

No more 2000s for me even though I've never found anything that writes as buttery.

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

reitetsu posted:

Did anyone else get the Colorverse Inkvent calendar this year? I'm trying to pick my favorite three and haven't decided yet, but the ones I've been using so far are Erebus Crater, Apollon, and Cosmic Reef. I also really like LGM, but haven't inked it up in anything as yet.

I was attempting to swatch some out last night, which I'm realizing I don't really know how to do. And, in the process, managed to break the tip off the Dominant Industry Ink Muddler I just. got. from Goldspot Pens. :cry:

At least the muddler part still works, and is fantastic for stirring up glistening inks. Maybe I'll actually use some of the ones I have.

Swatching is one of those things that because I watched so many YouTube videos where people swatched I just assumed it would be easy and common sense and it is absolutely not

What I have done is buy an A6 Midori notebook, a stamp of a bottle to give an outline, and then a kakimori dip nib. I get the nib pretty submerged in ink and then fill in the stamped image in my notebook. I then got over the bottom half again to give a well-saturated contrast

Then I just write the name and make some loop de loops and X's to approximate my writing

I am....mostly...happy with this process

reitetsu
Sep 27, 2009

Should you find yourself here one day... In accordance with your crimes, you can rest assured I will give you the treatment you deserve.

Trevor Hale posted:

Swatching is one of those things that because I watched so many YouTube videos where people swatched I just assumed it would be easy and common sense and it is absolutely not

What I have done is buy an A6 Midori notebook, a stamp of a bottle to give an outline, and then a kakimori dip nib. I get the nib pretty submerged in ink and then fill in the stamped image in my notebook. I then got over the bottom half again to give a well-saturated contrast

Then I just write the name and make some loop de loops and X's to approximate my writing

I am....mostly...happy with this process

tbh even before I broke the glass nib, I was thinking about a dip pen. I've got a bunch of regular Hocoro dip nibs, but nothing like the Colorverse Shuttle I've seen around that looks so slick. From my quick searching though it doesn't seem as well reviewed as the kakimori you mentioned. Swatch process aside, are you happy with it?

Also, ugh, I see the nibs for both come in different kinds of brass/steel... I wonder if that's similar to the gold v. steel debate. For that, I still haven't noticed an appreciable difference, at least in the pens I regularly use.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
Sometimes I find myself thinking I should try a dip pen. It usually lasts a few hours before I revert to thinking, hell, if I'm gonna do that I might as well just get an actual loving quill.

Rap Game Goku
Apr 2, 2008

Word to your moms, I came to drop spirit bombs


I got a Pilot dip pen that almost exclusively use for labeling ink swatches.

Trevor Hale
Dec 8, 2008

What have I become, my Swedish friend?

reitetsu posted:

tbh even before I broke the glass nib, I was thinking about a dip pen. I've got a bunch of regular Hocoro dip nibs, but nothing like the Colorverse Shuttle I've seen around that looks so slick. From my quick searching though it doesn't seem as well reviewed as the kakimori you mentioned. Swatch process aside, are you happy with it?

Also, ugh, I see the nibs for both come in different kinds of brass/steel... I wonder if that's similar to the gold v. steel debate. For that, I still haven't noticed an appreciable difference, at least in the pens I regularly use.

To be honest, I have dogshit penmanship and I don't think it works well with the kakimori. It works pretty well for the swatch process because I can hold it really shallow and make broad strokes, but for printing, it just doesn't pair well with my hand

But I find that is true of most dip nibs as well. So this is definitely a Me problem

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

teethgrinder posted:

I'm still in denial and was just in shock when it happened a few weeks ago... but I dropped my fancy expensive limited edition green Lamy 2000 a few feet and ... it loving snapped in half. It was barely used. My original 2000 went through 10+ years of stress, and probably dropped many times before a collar eventually split.

No more 2000s for me even though I've never found anything that writes as buttery.

Have you considered just gluing a pen to your hand?

Pixelante
Mar 15, 2006

You people will by God act like a team, or at least like people who know each other, or I'll incinerate the bunch of you here and now.
I used to have a pen on a pretty chain around my neck when I was an office manager. I miss that thing. You can find them on cheap nylon cords in places like the dollar store but I'd love something a little classier to keep me from losing my pens.

I'm pretty sure a fountain pen on a chain would be a recipe for stained clothes and spills, though.

Zenostein
Aug 15, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:
I'm sure it would be fine if you had a reliable screwtop. Those old ringtop pens were meant to be put on a watchchain or whatever and go in a pocket.

Mind, I have no idea who'd make a reliable screwtop pen; I've had enough inky pockets to just never clip a pen to a pants pocket, since they just inevitably get unscrewed.

As for swatches, I thought people did the swatch-y bit with a q-tip or a knife or something? To be honest, I've never really gotten the point of that; I do not write with anything that would make the ink look anything like a swatch, and I'm not selling inks or something.

Eric the Mauve posted:

Sometimes I find myself thinking I should try a dip pen. It usually lasts a few hours before I revert to thinking, hell, if I'm gonna do that I might as well just get an actual loving quill.

It's a lot easier to find a speedball set or whatever for a few bucks than it is to find or make a quill. Of course, I use said (now quite rusty, I'm sure) dip pen like, once a year at best, but I guess I have it if I suddenly lose my mind and want to use one.

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

my dip pen only gets used when i'm writing a greeting card and dont want to ink up a pen

Zenostein
Aug 15, 2008

:h::h::h:Alhamdulillah-chan:h::h::h:
Yeah, that's about the gist of it.

That's also the only time I use these ink samples I got ages ago, because I don't have a use for various glittery bullshit other than christmas cards.

Necronomicon
Jan 18, 2004

I got myself a Speedball textbook recently and have been teaching myself blackletter style writing, which of course led to me buying a Speedball dip pen set. I’ve been writing a ton of letters recently and it’s been fun sneaking in some calligraphy elements here and there.

grack
Jan 10, 2012

COACH TOTORO SAY REFEREE CAN BANISH WHISTLE TO LAND OF WIND AND GHOSTS!

Zenostein posted:

As for swatches, I thought people did the swatch-y bit with a q-tip or a knife or something? To be honest, I've never really gotten the point of that; I do not write with anything that would make the ink look anything like a swatch, and I'm not selling inks or something.

There's a group of 6-8 people that show up to our pen clubs and do nothing but sit in the corner and make ink swatches. It is intensely weird.

Pingiivi
Mar 26, 2010

Straight into the iris!
Don't inkshame.

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

Pingiivi posted:

Don't inkshame.

[Fountain Pens] Don't inkshame.

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Comrade Koba
Jul 2, 2007

SixteenShells posted:

[Fountain Pens] Don't inkshame.

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