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Crossposting from the Restoration Thread after being directed here by Megabound. TL;DR is that I got into restoring vintage fountain pens and am very much enjoying it! I make no claims to being highly informed as to dates or whatnot-- I am basing what I know off of the observations of people that I know who are much better informed and what I can piece together from whatever is to be gleaned from the internet.Fearless posted:I do a lot of writing by hand in various notebooks and journals both professionally and in support of various hobbies that I engage in. Back during my undergrad, a good friend introduced me to fountain pens and eventually I wound up coming into possession of a selection of vintage Parker, Waterman's and Esterbrook fountain pens that belonged to some relatives that had a really huge impact on my life and from there I chose to focus my fountain pen collection on older pens. The trouble is that most older pens that survive to the present day are usually not in a usable state (with some very notable exceptions-- seventy year old Parker 51 Aerometrics and Esterbrook J series pens can often be found only needing a cleaning and a cosmetic restoration) and so I wound up getting pulled into the hive of angst and snobbery that is fountain pen restoration! Here are some of the restorations that I have handled personally: Fearless fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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Dad Hominem posted:Hey that's really impressive! Repairing a broken barrel is not easy at all, but yours looks like it went really well. Thank you kindly! The repair did indeed go well-- it's not easily visible, but if you know what to feel for you will know something was up. If and when I repair more Vacs with broken barrels and high opacity, I think this is how I would do it going forward. I really like the reflection from the polished aluminum as it adds something subtle where there was nothing before. I kinda suspect that these kinds of vacumatic barrels probably break pretty cleanly along their layer lines, and it makes lining up the repair simultaneously fairly easy in that epoxy squeeze out is good enough to fill any gaps in the join, but a bit trickier in that there is less to index the halves off of one another to ensure alignment is dead-on.
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![]() This is the cap of a Conklin Endura that I am repairing for a friend. It needed a new cap liner installed as the old one had been removed by the previous owner to repair the clip... which they bodged by trying to force a different clip into the pen. I made the liner from a piece of 12mm brass tube and installed it after repairing the cracks left by previous repair attempt (the cracks have been stabilized, not concealed). The other issue was that the rim of the cap had a significant chunk broken out of it, and so after a few days of mixing paint and resin, I found the right combination to match the colour of the hard rubber cap. It looks bright now, but it darkens as the resin sets up and by the time this is done the colour should be close to perfectly matched.
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howe_sam posted:Got something in direct from Italy today, not a Delta, but Delta-adjacent That is indeed a very pretty pen! Congratulations! I finished working on that big Conklin Endura this evening. The cap was the recipient of most of my attention-- chiefly, it needed a big chip repaired and I needed to colour match the chip. Well, here are the results: ![]() Here's a shot of the damage to the rim, along with colour samples that I provided the client with for his approval. We settled on mix of two different Vallejo Game Colour and Model Air paints that when combined with the resin, matched the colour of the pen extremely closely. ![]() This is the repaired section after some sanding, shaping, gap filling, more sanding and polishing. I am very pleased with the match on the colour and was also able to polish away the worst of the discoloration on the cap band as well. ![]() As mentioned, a previous botched attempt at replacing the clip cracked the cap. I stabilized the crack but left it visible-- the goal is to bring the pen closer to its designer's original vision while also preserving indicators of its age and life. ![]() ![]() And here are a couple of shots of the Endura all done. It originally had blue accent bands-- I was able to find a matching colour almost effortlessly and restore those and I am glad I did. It wasn't in the original request from the client but when I saw them from the reference material provided and pointed out that I could replace them easily, the client was happy to accept. I wouldn't exactly call a big orange pen drab as such, but the accent bands do add quite a lot to it.
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If you have access to an ultrasonic cleaner, especially one with a heat control on it, that can be a godsend for loosening up parts that are jammed together by old ink. Just don't put vintage ebonite pens in there-- water makes old hard rubber oxidize and turn brown.
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I used to have that problem in a couple of Lamys in which I used to use Noodler's ink. My takeaway from that (and a few other things) was don't use Noodler's ink.
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![]() Here's a new to me Parker Vacumatic that I finished restoring and re-assembling earlier today. Probably 1933-35? It's got a lock-down filler and is the marbled emerald pearl colour. The pen has a remarkable degree of transparency, though it is not apparent at the moment because the pen is full of ink. It has a slightly flexible medium nib and my wife has already tried to claim it as her own. She cannot have it as there is already a Montblanc of mine in her possession that sees irregular use.
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Volkova III posted:You monster, you restrict your wife's fountain pen usage??? I wouldn't if she actually used them regularly. Letting a Vacumatic collect dust is just offensive.
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For clarity: this is how I would do the repair, and I am not definitively stating that this is how the repair should be done. I'd be inclined to flow a thin CA glue into the crack, clamp it down with a dentist's clamp (coated in some kind of release agent, of course) and once it's set up go about sanding down and polishing the repair site. Make sure you clean the area in need of repair though-- if there is any ink buildup it can interfere with an effective repair and also make the repair more visible. grack posted:Speaking of Vacumatics, here's something I just finished repairing the nib on: Beautiful! Is that yours? Fearless fucked around with this message at 17:38 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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grack posted:CONID loving sucks I had COVID last summer and can indeed confirm it is not enjoyable. Bacon and eggs without any bacon or egg flavour is no fun at all.
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Heath posted:Wait, which thread am I in...? The Fountain Pen thread. I, however, thought I was in the Idiots thread... In actual fountain pen content: ![]() This Waterman 52 was given to me recently. The nib was looked at by a local expert who sadly assessed that it was pretty played out and likely beyond economical repair. He was correct! When I got the pen home, I took it apart for cleaning and to put in a new sac and discovered that there was a crack on the underside of the nib near the root of the right tine. Happily, I had a spare from a family pen that is a beautiful writer but which had been residing in a rather ugly WW2 era Waterman Dauntless and threw a spare clip on it too. It's a bit anachronistic I guess, but it fits and writes extremely well so I am not going to lose any sleep over it. And then there's this... ![]() This is not my pen. It belongs to a friend who has had me do some material repairs in the past. It's a mostly nice Waterman Hundred Year Pen, and the lucite end of the barrel is wonderfully clear and not the least bit rotten! It is, however, missing a big chunk out of the rim of the cap as the astute observer might note. ![]() There are also some fine cracks in that cap rim too that will need a little help stabilizing. ![]() I've been experimenting with some resin this evening to get a colour and translucency match and I think I have just about got it, so I intend to make the repair and let the entire thing dry overnight before spending tomorrow sanding, shaping and polishing. Fearless fucked around with this message at 06:15 on May 20, 2024 |
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Safety Dance posted:Crossposting from the Newspaper Comic Strips Megathread. I've got a mid 20's Lucky Curve in Chinese Red that has this problem. It's a very big pen. Nice to write with, but huge to the point that it won't fit into most pen or pencil slots in a brief case. In other news, I was able to fix the chip missing from the cap of that Hundred Year Pen. It's gone from this: ![]() ![]() To this: ![]() ![]() ![]() If the pen is capped or the cap is posted, the repair is invisible. The repair was complicated by cracks existing in the remaining material on the cap-- they've been stabilized, but it is beyond my skill to make them vanish entirely. The person I did the repair for is very happy with it and that is what matters.
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Mad Hamish posted:That's super neat. How do you do that? Thank you! Much like the Conklin Endura repair I posted about earlier, it was done with a 2 part epoxy and some dye added in. I was very fortunate in that this pen was otherwise in superb shape and I got a decent colour match extremely quickly-- the Endura took three or four days just to find the right colour orange. It is interesting how the colourant one adds to the epoxy changes how it behaves-- so far opaque paint pigments tend to darken as the resin sets up (like, a lot) and translucent dyes tend to noticeably extend the drying time of the epoxy but do not darken at all. Anyways, the cap was placed on a tinfoil lined dowel, with the tinfoil coated in a transparent release agent so as to not adhere it to the repair. This allowed the backside of the repair to have a nice curve that matched that of the cap and saved me from having to do any sanding inside the cap of the pen. Once the resin was set up, I went about sanding it down to match the profile of the cap and then set about polishing, starting at 600 grit and working up to 22000 to give it that nice mirror shine. I gave the entire pen and its metal fittings a buff with 22000 grit to give it some shine without losing any significant material or plating and turned it over to the owner yesterday morning, who initially struggled to find the repair. It's there, if you know what to look for, but it is more or less invisible when the pen is capped or the cap is posted. As I have said before, I try not to completely conceal damage that I repair, because the damage is an honest part of an object's story and is nothing to be ashamed of, especially if it is repaired in such a way that it is respectful of the artistic vision of the original designer. I do try to allow the eye to slide over the damage on all but a really careful, close examination. I have a bunch of hobbies that have given me plenty of transferable skills (and tools). And I love the challenge of taking a damaged or junked out pen and bringing it back to life. This one wasn't anywhere near as involved as the Conklin repair and it is certainly... odd... to be doing a cosmetic repair on a Hundred Year Pen that doesn't involve replacing the rotted out barrel end, but it is still really nice to bring such a valuable pen back to what it's supposed to look like. Fearless fucked around with this message at 15:53 on May 23, 2024 |
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I finished fixing this thing up:![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() It's a late 30s Parker Duofold "Geometric." These are sometimes referred to as the toothbrush on account of the pattern I am given to understand and they weren't made for very long. This poor thing needed a new nib and needed to have the area around the mouth of its barrel reinforced due to some cracks that had formed. I think the old rubber sac and the section swelled slightly as the barrel shrank. I stabilized the cracks with a super thin CA glue and also carefully cleaned up and resized the section to fit snugly into the barrel but not so much as to burst the cracks wide open. I'm going to keep my eyes on this for now and if worst comes to worst look at getting some MEK or acetone to solvent-weld them but so far they are sturdy. The nib I found is an old Warranted 14k gold nib that I had in my spare nib container that came out of a truly junked pen. It fits perfectly and is pretty nice to write with, overall. Other than that, this was a pretty straightforward polishing to really let that barrel glow like it should. It is supposed to have an "ink-vue" section, which I do have, but which needs some not insignificant work to make it right. One of these days, I will figure out how I am going to go about fixing it and do so. Fearless fucked around with this message at 06:19 on Jun 8, 2024 |
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Mad Hamish posted:Wow, that's a very nice-looking pen. Thank you! The Geometric patterns were not in production for very long-- only a year or two. They were budget pens and initially not very valuable so they have become uncommon and collectible today.
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My wife's a Taylor Swift fan and she told me this evening that Ms. Swift is indeed very much interested in pens and stationery. How this came to be common knowledge is beyond me and I have learned not to question a group of people that can turn concerts into seismic events too deeply.
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Rocko Bonaparte posted:I got this 15% Staples coupon and did a comedy search for fountain pens. They list Pilot Vanishing Points but they're in-store only. I haven't found a city that has any of them. Sneaky little bastards. I don't think Staples even sells ink anymore.
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I got a screaming deal on a micro-lathe today, so once I get that up and running I have a few designs for fountain pens that I have been working on and want to produce. At the very least, I should be able to make a set of taps for cutting fresh threads on vintage Parker pen barrels and caps. There have been a few old Vacumatics that I have encountered which desperately need new threading done on their barrels but Parker just had to use their very own thread pitch...
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Sagebrush posted:i only have one noodler's pen, the one that came free with a bottle of ink (it's not the one that smells like barf, the other one) and the barrel cracked and it started to leak. It means so much to me to know that I am not the only person disgusted by the rancid stink of a noodlers pen. I've got an ancient Conklin syringe filler that also reeks, but it's also 80 years old and is probably full of rotten grease.
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Wearever had a similar model-- they used to sell ink cartridges that came with a free pen. The difference was that their pens frequently worked.
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You can't go far wrong with Lamy. I mean unless you've got very strong opinions about purple.
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I personally prefer mediums and don't mind the increased ink use but to each their own. I think I only have a couple of F or EF nibs and one of them is a Mont Blanc that my wife decided was hers.
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Keetron posted:The increased ink use is kind of the point, do you know how many bottles I have to get through in the coming 35 years if I even make it that far? Quite a few, I would imagine. I don't collect ink like a lot of other afficionados do (I only write with blue ink-- getting hollered at for signing documents in black ink when I was in the navy beat that preference into me) but I am aware that some folks have enormous stocks of ink on hand. You'd like the mid 20s senior Lucky Curve that I have-- it's got a big, silly stub nib in it and writes like a firehose.
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Here is a Parker True Blue that came into my possession a while back but which I fixed up recently. These were made for a brief period between c. 1928 and 1931 or thereabouts-- this particular one is probably from 1928-29. Like many others of this particular model, the barrel is badly stained by rotting rubber ink sac and the passage of time and was quite resistant to any kind of treatment that I applied to reduce the discolouration. Some repairs were also necessary-- there was a large chip blown out of the threading on the barrel that stubbornly refused to stay fixed and which tended to break back out whenever I tried to insert the section. What I wound up doing was removing a lot of material directly underneath the barrel threads to reinforce the area with an aluminum sleeve wide enough to allow the passage of the ink sac and allow the section to seat snugly inside. This allowed the chips and cracks to be properly reinforced and now the whole area is far stronger. The nib is probably a replacement or a mismatch-- it's a fine Vacumatic nib and not a Lucky Curve/Duofold nib but it works. The cap gives an idea of the colouring as the pen was originally produced.![]() ![]() ![]() True Blue Lucky Curves are not particularly common (especially not in something approaching their original colours). This one is a long junior variation, which is even less so. While this particular pen was made in Canada, I cannot definitively state that the long junior in this instance is unique to Canada like I might for a Vacumatic-- it might be the case, but I genuinely do not know.
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madmatt112 posted:This is a stunning pen to me. Can’t say why, but it is gorgeous. Thank you very much for your kind words! While I wish I could have done more to reduce the discolouration, the overall design of the pen is such that the pen can still look pretty despite the browning. Heck, sometimes the browning actually works-- I am thinking of certain white and black pearl Sheaffers and Wahl Gold Seals that actually look quite nice having aged in a similar way.
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Here are a couple of pens that I got in a lot recently. They had evidently been through some sort of flood, probably in a basement, and had badly oxidized due to the exposure to water. First up, we have a 1909-10 Conklin Crescent-Filler: ![]() ![]() ![]() This was a very early self-filling design, and was a huge hit when it was released in the late 1890s-- so much so that it secured one of the earliest celebrity endorsements that I am aware of. Mark Twain was a huge fan of the pen, and his testimonials and name were used by Conklin for marketing this model of pen for almost all of its 20 year production run. Heck, the modern iteration of Conklin resurrected the Crescent-Filler and has a Mark Twain edition that you can purchase today. The pen works by pressing on the crescent-- this pushes down on the ink sac, which then reinflates and draws in ink. The band that runs perpendicular to the Crescent is a lock that keeps it from being depressed accidentally. To their credit, when Conklin began to re-issue these pens, they kept them authentic to their original form and function-- the crescents aren't just for show on a bog-standard cartridge pen. This might be the oldest pen in my collection at this time and it has had a long and useful life. The barrel is worn and it is fitted with a Mabie-Todd nib, so it's been used heavily. Next is something of a mystery. The current suspicion is that it is a Mabie Todd or perhaps a Mentmore, but the barrel markings are worn and difficult to read even under magnification. It is, nevertheless, a very old BCHR lever filler that came with an accommodation clip. The cap does not appear to have been pre-marked for rivets, so that suggests to me that the pen is quite old and was not intended to be made with a clip. It is quite long and slender-- slightly thinner than a Waterman 52, but probably a centimeter longer overall. I currently have a spare Waterman nib in it until I can get a Warranted nib or a positive ID on the pen and find an appropriate manufacturer nib. Note that while it is suspected this pen is a Mabie Todd, the Mabie Todd nib from the Conklin does not fit in it. An interesting feature is the threading on the end of the barrel that allows the cap to post very securely on the barrel-- this is not something I have seen much of on pens like this one but I have no idea if it is idiosyncratic to a particular maker or not. There's also the possibility that this is just a cheap and cheerful bullshit pen that was made under contract for a department store. ![]() ![]()
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Mad Hamish posted:TBH my Mango Safari is my favourite pen, and while the nib is definitely not the F it claims to be (more of a broad I think!) it's an absolute delight to write with regardless of whatever ink I've put in it (usually Iroshizuku Ama-iro, but I think I'm going to start trying to get through some of the millions of blue ink samples GF gets in Wonder Pens sample coal mystery bags). I have three Safaris and this one is by far my favourite and the bright yellow colour is so cheerful. If you like hooded nibs, I'd like to recommend a vintage Waterman Taperite-- those are at their hearts a lever filler design and so are very easy to service and repair but as they have semi-hooded nibs you also get a remarkable degree of flex in them as well, far more than what you would fine in a proper Parker 51. The caps seal well, so the ink tends to stay fresh and unlike the BCHR Watermans, they haven't gone completely insane in terms of price (yet). For general Lamy chat: I've had three Lamys and all of them wrote well and worked well. One of them, a Lamy Logo, was my first fountain pen until some dirty bastard stole it. The other two are a gunmetal LX and a black Studio. I like how easy the nibs are to replace, and the Studio and LX are both very comfortable to write with. If I was to compare a Pilot Metropolitan to a Safari, however, I think that you get a better pen from Pilot.
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Keetron posted:Honestly, I think future archeologists will be confused about our times no matter what. Hell, most of us are confused about our times and we're living in them. Pen news: I got a PFM 1 for a song recently. I'm going to have to get a restoration kit for it I think because I believe the sac is dead and gone. But on the plus side I get to take a crack at restoring what is probably the most convoluted fountain pen design ever.
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The Majohn A1 also has a little door inside of it to help keep the ink in the nib viable. It works pretty well-- I had mine inked up for the better part of eight months between uses and it was still capable of writing when I picked it back up. It's also concealed within the barrel of the pen and so I think is a little less likely to get snapped off.
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grack posted:It can, but it depends on the nib and feed. The feed has to extend far enough to provide ink flow to the nib slit. Yeah, their shipping process from the US to Canada is awful. Out of the UK, though, it so far has been extremely fast.
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The only thing I knew about Noodler's was that one of their blue inks stained the converter of one of my fountain pens and that the pens they had marketed under their name were both unreliable and literally stinky. And both of those things are enough for me to avoid their products. E: Today I learned about anti-semitism in the ink making industry. How fun. Fearless fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Sep 18, 2024 |
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Keetron posted:When I say I like iroshizuku, I mean it. I started using it about a year ago and I think ama-iro might be my favourite ink colour. Just lovely stuff, though I have to be careful what pens I use it in as I find it has a lower surface tension than a lot of other inks so my blotter gets a workout when I am writing with wetter nibs.
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Driver's compartment on a Panther.
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There are also a host of excellent restored vintage options that have a 14k gold nib under $200. Finding these can be a little tricky, I recognize, because it requires that one have a good handle on which restorers are doing good work but the options are there.
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Here's an Eagle fountain pen that I got from a recent auction lot (which included the cap for what is apparently a relatively rare Montblanc but sadly none of the rest of the pen). Someone had serviced this recently, but the section was in an ugly state and the pen needed a polish. I suspect the pen is probably from the 1940s and it has an Iridium tipped nib with notional 14k gold plating. The nib is going to need some attention as it is scratchy and not particularly pleasant to write with, but that is a project for later. Eagle apparently made the first cartridge filling system; the cartridges themselves were made from glass and this innovation made its debut in the early 1900s. I don't think they were positioned as a particularly upmarket brand but despite this they produced pens with some really eye-catching colours. I have a couple of others waiting for restoration and they are all very vivid.![]()
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Some months ago a friend for whom I do a bunch of restoration work presented me with a pen that he felt was missing from my collection. Specifically, a Parker Jack Knife #98S, a gold-filled button filler with fancy engraving on it dating to about 1915. They're small vest pocket pens meant to be tucked away on one's person for easy retrieval and use. Trouble was the pen had some issues. Like a missing cap! And no pencil to go with it. Given that this particular model was not all that common in 1915 let alone today, finding the missing bits was something of a challenge. But I started searching and a few days ago was able to source a cap: ![]() ![]() I typically do not much care for gold overlays. I think this is mostly because I have big hands and tend to favour larger pens so that much gold is just too much. But in this case, it works-- the pen is small, but just big enough to be usable (for me) and the engraving is subtle enough and the lines clean enough that the set doesn't become gaudy. I don't think it will ever be a daily writer, but it will be used! Fearless fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Sep 29, 2024 |
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Picked up a fresh bottle of ama-iro today, and a recent score from an auction arrived in the mail as well. I was reasonably certain that I had gotten a Sheaffer Imperial Touchdown at an exceptionally good price but instead was pleasantly surprised to discover it was a PFM-IV. A couple of hours later, and the new pen is cleaned, re-sacked, has fresh seals and is writing beautifully. I will do more cosmetic polishing over the next couple of days.
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HolePisser1982 posted:Question for ya: I've got a 70's/80's Sheaffer 444 quasi-imperial with some slightly loose threads on the body/housing. Any recommendations on making that a little more secure so I dont risk it unscrewing in my pocket? I've tried silicone grease (slight improvement) but could use something tackier. It'll need to come open like once a week for refills so I've been ruling out teflon tape or loctite. Threads are plastic on the head side and chrome on the body. Any ideas? Hmmm. I might be tempted to look for something tackier than silicone grease-- there are some thread sealers out there like this stuff: https://fifteenpens.ca/collections/adhesives-and-lubricants/products/thread-sealant You could get a similar effect from one of those wax toilet gaskets-- those are made from a solidified form of alox, which can function as a very high temperature lubricant or a thread sealer at lower temps. One gasket will run a couple of dollars at your local hardware store and have loads more material in it than you will ever need for the task. Anyways, it's quite tacky and yet reversible insofar as body heat or a blow dryer will warm it up enough that it will allow the barrel to unthread. Shellac would be another option though it can complicate getting that pen back open again regularly for filling (though it can be reactivated with gentle heat from a blow dryer). I would add just a single dab of it as opposed to fully coating the threads and see how tightly that locks it down.
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Hopefully those are helpful, but here is yet another option: museum wax. One of my other incredibly dorky hobbies is painting historical miniatures in 54mm scale and I use museum wax to help secure the finished figures to a shelf so I don't have to worry about accidentally knocking one and onto the floor if I have to go near it, or if a minor earthquake shakes the building (they happen). https://www.amazon.ca/Quakehold-44111-13-Ounce-Museum-Wax/dp/B000FJQQHC Anyways, less stinky than toilet gasket, but same idea in that it is thick, sticky when warm (and removable with gentle heat) and should help tighten up them threads a bit so as to not leave your Sheaffer shedding parts when it oughtn't and also not require you to apply too many ooga doogas and strip out what I assume are plastic threads in the barrel... though if one did that there are also ways to fix that issue.
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I have thus far been able to avoid falling down the ink and paper rabbit holes. In the case of the former, I have a deep-seated aversion to any ink colour that isn't blue so that helps. And in the case of the latter I've found a few options for clinical notebooks that I am happy with and haven't seen the need to look at anything else.
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