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CellBlock posted:Pennsylvania's only major gain looks to be Center County. Is everyone just going to Penn State and not leaving? That also appears to be happening with Central Michigan.
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Deltasquid posted:Post maps, nerds It kind of got missed, but this is why TRT World were posting silly EEZ maps: https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/1301929984643211269 If Greece really wanted to be taken seriously, they shouldn't have used more than nine dashes to denote their EEZ. 
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What am I missing here? It looks like all of that delineated Med is closer to Greece than to any other shoreline. And since no part of the Mediterranean is international waters (i.e. it's all within 200 nm of some land) this is just... what you'd expect?
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Albino Squirrel posted:What am I missing here? It looks like all of that delineated Med is closer to Greece than to any other shoreline. And since no part of the Mediterranean is international waters (i.e. it's all within 200 nm of some land) this is just... what you'd expect? TRT World is the Turkish government's English language
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Grape posted:Except now Ireland and the Mediterranean are mostly leading with older average pregnancies. Yeah, that's an interesting shift.
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Feb 25, 2021 07:23
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new globe dropped https://twitter.com/l3gsv/status/1365004005097824258?s=21
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Albino Squirrel posted:What am I missing here? It looks like all of that delineated Med is closer to Greece than to any other shoreline. And since no part of the Mediterranean is international waters (i.e. it's all within 200 nm of some land) this is just... what you'd expect? I was reading this as nanometers and I got really confused for a second there.
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Tree Goat posted:new globe dropped idgi
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yikes! posted:idgi Maybe you just don't live, laugh, and love enough?
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It's a work of genius. Everyone by now knows to look inside the globe for the good liquor, but nobody would dream to look for any in there.
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Feb 25, 2021 23:53
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Tree Goat posted:new globe dropped Someone in the replies posted this https://twitter.com/caroleanne327/status/1365022082946449417?s=20 So at least they didn't destroy an antique for this.
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I know that nobody sells a non-map version of one of those, because there's literally no point, but it seems like it'd be cheaper if you didn't have to get a good globe to paint over.
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Feb 26, 2021 00:10
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Tree Goat posted:new globe dropped After all the cakes that looked like mundane objects, it's refresshing to see a mundane object that looks like a cake.
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Pakled posted:So at least they didn't destroy an antique for this.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I know that nobody sells a non-map version of one of those, because there's literally no point, but it seems like it'd be cheaper if you didn't have to get a good globe to paint over. Printing the map on it isn’t the expensive part.
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The resulting... product is so hideous, vile and depraved that it doesn't matter if the original was from Walmart and cost 10 bucks. Also I'm SPIRTS
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Not nearly as much variation as I would have expected. It would be neat to see this as a global map.
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 Apparently MENA if there were no Muslim conquests.
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Tweezer Reprise posted:
Rather respectful of post-colonial borders, that.
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And no European either, I guess e: lol yeah, they stayed independent but just happened to use the same borders as the colonizers that apparently never came
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How did Egypt become Scandinavian?
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Orange Devil posted:How did Egypt become Scandinavian? its not scandinavian, the cross isnt offset towards the pole, but it is a christian cross: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_flag e: vvv yeah i dont think whoever made this map thought it through vvv
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Carthag Tuek posted:And no European either, I guess I'm trying to figure out how Israel fits into this, and where the Byzantine territories went.
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It's also a pretty extremely generous interpretation of Hebrew dominated lands at....any point in history really. Also I celebrate sinking Mesopotamia into the Persian gulf. Or is that some psychotic interpretation of Assyrian cultural extent?
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my favorite part is the generic supermarket brand NUBIANS
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Tweezer Reprise posted:
The idea of a Coptic Egypt (as opposed to an Orthodox one) without the Muslim Conquests is very silly. But less silly than Mega-Israel I guess.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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Zedhe Khoja posted:It's also a pretty extremely generous interpretation of Hebrew dominated lands at....any point in history really. Also I celebrate sinking Mesopotamia into the Persian gulf. Or is that some psychotic interpretation of Assyrian cultural extent? no its just a spirally flag with a white background so it looks like water which turns out to be Dwekh Nawsha, a christian org that was founded in 2014 to oppose isis so i guess thats why muslims never conquered anything on that map: they were all killed by amazing christians
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Carthag Tuek posted:no its just a spirally flag with a white background so it looks like water It's the Assyrian Flag, which was designed in 1968.
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ah sorry  also mostly christian tho, so i stand by my "analysis" of the cartographers motivations
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Come to think of it, I'm not sure what the state of the oceans is supposed to be in Judge Dredd. So many postapocalyptic dystopias rely on the aesthetics of deserts and Californian wastelands that are extremely hazardous to drive or walk across, but they just ignore the water and assume it'll somehow disappear. I guess it also helps for isolating the new wasteland societies. Part of how bad Waterworld hosed up is that it just poisoned the idea of a wet postapocalyptic world, leaving nothing to counterbalance Mad Max. There's genuinely fascinating ideas and plenty of real cultures to draw influence from, but one high-profile failure and nobody wants to make that risk again.
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Kamrat posted:
ciudad españa is weird, the people from madrid are pretty self-constious about their city, they would not accept to call it anything else but madrid
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Tweezer Reprise posted:
Had no idea the prohibition on Jews living in Judea was imposed by the Arabs instead of the romans.
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SlothfulCobra posted:Come to think of it, I'm not sure what the state of the oceans is supposed to be in Judge Dredd. So many postapocalyptic dystopias rely on the aesthetics of deserts and Californian wastelands that are extremely hazardous to drive or walk across, but they just ignore the water and assume it'll somehow disappear. I guess it also helps for isolating the new wasteland societies.  Essentially the same as the land: polluted, irradiated, and toxic. Though the Black Atlantic is worse off than the rest of the oceans. There actually have been a fair number of Black Atlantic stories in the comics. SlothfulCobra posted:Part of how bad Waterworld hosed up is that it just poisoned the idea of a wet postapocalyptic world, leaving nothing to counterbalance Mad Max. There's genuinely fascinating ideas and plenty of real cultures to draw influence from, but one high-profile failure and nobody wants to make that risk again. Which brings another map to mind: 
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Had no idea the prohibition on Jews living in Judea was imposed by the Arabs instead of the romans. I know this is a dig at that map, but the Romans only ever barred Jews from living in Jerusalem; they were never prohibited from living in the rest of Judea, though that is a commonly held myth (which accompanies the narrative of Jewish exile from their homeland).
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Tweezer Reprise posted:
There should be a bunch of coastal Greek city states maybe, or those Greeks would have been ethnically cleansed by that point by the angry Copts and Aramaic speakers in the inevitable Eastern Orthodox/Oriental Orthodox mega violence. Modern people would shake their head in hearing about the Middle East, "the loving Orthos are at it again aren't they". Like Northern Ireland times 100 and involving the OTHER two Christian branches. This Israel would be allies with the Arabs, and possibly the entrenched Eastern Orthodox populations, in alliance against the Oriental Orthodox Palestinians and their co-religionists. Also would be in alliance of convenience with the Zoroastrians of Iran.
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Carthag Tuek posted:And no European either, I guess Without Islam I wonder what degree of "othering" would be in place for Western Euros that they would be comfortable grabbing up Christian land from people who aren't black (cough Ethiopia cough). I mean odds are good the difference of sect would be more than enough. Cyprus ended up a colony after all, and Lebanon in demographically part. And Georgia and Armenia if we count Russia. CommonShore posted:I'm trying to figure out how Israel fits into this, and where the Byzantine territories went. Before the Arab invasions there was enormous tension between the Eastern Orthodox Byzantines/coastal Greek populations, and the inland Oriential Orthodox populations who spoke Coptic, Aramaic, and stuff like that. Either we can imagine the Byzantine empire managing to hold all that, or eventually that tension would give way and the Byzantines would be pushed out by the non Greek populations. PittTheElder posted:The idea of a Coptic Egypt (as opposed to an Orthodox one) without the Muslim Conquests is very silly. Coptic is a language/ethnic identity not a religion though. Copts are to this day Oriental Orthodox Christians. Grape fucked around with this message at 21:42 on Feb 26, 2021 |
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oh definitely yeah, there's no way europe would hold back even if everyone was christian. gently caress sake, there are centuries of european warfare using the tiniest details of christianity to excuse any powerplay you can think of
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Denmark for their flag when it fell down from the sky during a crusade. In loving Estonia, which was hardly a Muslim country. I'm sure we Europeans would manage to pull a racism. I also love the idea that if Islam didn't happen, the obvious result would be Christians and/or some indigenous minority, not some other large scale empire thing.
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Carthag Tuek posted:oh definitely yeah, there's no way europe would hold back even if everyone was christian. gently caress sake, there are centuries of european warfare using the tiniest details of christianity to excuse any powerplay you can think of Without quite as huge an other I can think that sect as huge rear end deal would maintain to the present day, I mean even now it's not like stuff like that doesn't flare up or still burn in some places. Northern Ireland of course, but even the Yugoslav wars. I haven't looked into it much, but how much inter-Christian sectarian violence has been around in Lebanon? Like between the Maronites and the other smaller groups? Is that even a thing?
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