Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
 
  • Post
  • Reply
Minty Swagger
Sep 8, 2005

Ribbit Ribbit Real Good
I migrated to Plex as well about a year ago but my shield 2015 rocked Kodi no problem til then. It can't be the only OS/app like a PC can, hitting HOME will bring you to a stock Android TV interface, but that's kind of ok if you plan to also use Netflix and other apps anyway.

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
This is me but Plex. I bought an OG Shield to run Kodi but also to be able to access Netflix and other apps and doing this on older HTPCs was a pain in the rear end. Once streaming sticks became more the norm, Kodi just wasn't cutting it. I think the last time I may have installed it to see what the Plex plug in was like but got tired of the same old interface.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
I use a Shield on my TV with Kodi installed and have no issues; 4K, HDR, 5.1/7.1 through the stereo, etc. I tried Emby and Jellyfin but it's not not having to transcode, and I had a lot of issues with HDR and audio codecs before switching back to Kodi honestly.

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend
I have the newest Shield and use Kodi for 4K/HDR stuff and it has no problems what so ever. Plex's interface is extremely annoying to me, and I haven't cared enough to try any of the other apps out there.

The one negative about the Shield is that one updated or the other introduced ads to the interface, but you can setup an alternate launcher and get rid of the interface all together, which is well worth the time and effort. I hated the stupid scrolling bars from the default Android TV interface.

If I could get this AirPlay app working I'd be set.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?
I'm still rocking a first-generation Intel NUC and it does the job, with Kodi (LibreElec) as a front-end and Jellyfin as a media server on my desktop PC.

Having introduced Jellyfin about two months back, I find it works marginally better than using SMB file sharing. The main difference is all library wrangling is done in Jellyfin which is slightly better about scraping stuff without introducing incorrect matches. Plus, it's easier to correct any errors in the web UI on my desktop, than it is in the remote-control UI of Kodi. So getting rid of Kodi's library handling was a plus in my book.

I'm ready to throw out the NUC as soon as I have to replace my old TV, because the NUC can't handle decoding 4K content (and for some reason the transcoding to 1080p doesn't seem to work as it should from Jellyfin). I might go for a Shield-based solution with just Jellyfin and no Kodi, when that happens. Or, if an Android based TV, I suppose it might be possible to run Jellyfin directly on it?

Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 23:25 on Jan 7, 2022

gabensraum
Sep 16, 2003


LOAD "NICE!",8,1
My problem with everything non-kodi has been that I love the kodi client interface and haven't liked any of the others. They're all like Netflix, which I find pretty terrible.

I know it's not as strong on the library management, and It's a shame kodi doesn't make centralised databases easier for most users but as a computer toucher I find it easy enough to set up. And perhaps I don't care about management as much as most since I delete most things once I've seen them.

I notice jellyfin put out a new version of their android tv app a few months back and the last time I used it there were only a few annoyances, so I'll give that a go today.

Lowen SoDium
Jun 5, 2003

Highen Fiber
Clapping Larry
I use Kodi with emby as the server. Best of both worlds.

Photex
Apr 6, 2009




My internet went out and won't be back till Saturday, Plex requires internet even if you have a local server. Thank God for Kodi.

Keito
Jul 21, 2005

WHAT DO I CHOOSE ?
I already have Jellyfin and use it occasionally for streaming stuff when away from home. IMO it doesn't come close to matching Kodi for the living room, at least not yet. Previously the Android TV app would randomly restart playback from the beginning at some internal while watching videos, and after the big update a few months back it started crashing in the background producing full-screen "oh no jellyfin has crashed" messages while watching other channels/apps, so I just uninstalled it.

Kodi's video player core is very mature and high quality, and I'm going to keep using that either way. Not very impressed with Emby/Jellyfin library management either so for now I just keep in sync with Trakt.


My Sony TV can run apps so I don't care about being able to run those, I just want some hardware to run Kodi 24/7. Tried running Kodi as an app on the TV but as refresh rate switching doesn't work it's not an option.

I would like another NUC with LibreELEC since I know it just works without any bullshit, but from what I know there's still no support for HDR on x86 there.



Does the SHIELD TV put you back at the dashboard after some time like the Fire TV does or can it just sit there running Kodi without interruption?

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Keito posted:



Does the SHIELD TV put you back at the dashboard after some time like the Fire TV does or can it just sit there running Kodi without interruption?

The screen saver might kick in but no, it's won't return you to the main screen unless you tell it to. There's likely an app you can load to just have the device boot into Kodi each time

DJ Burette
Jan 6, 2010

Photex posted:

My internet went out and won't be back till Saturday, Plex requires internet even if you have a local server. Thank God for Kodi.

You can just set your local IP range on the server and then you can use Plex without internet at home, I use it regularly this way.

I do miss how Kodi was rock solid at playing anything I wanted, but it stopped fulfilling all my requirements a while ago.

Tapedump
Aug 31, 2007
College Slice
And Android TV 11 pitfalls to watch out for?

Meaning, Shield Experience 9

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




I have a friend who lives in the mountains with no mobile service and really lovely satellite internet. They have no pay tv options available. They boggled at my crazy Plex/NAS setup and asked if I had any ideas for something like that but way simpler.

Well, my thought was a loaded hard drive plugged into some sort of Kodi box. But I haven't touched Kodi for years since switching to Plex. Is Kodi actually still the best no-internet play-poo poo-via-USB option? Without need for 4k or even internet, any really good value boxes that will be happy to play 1080p x264? A Shield would just be massive overkill I think, but I don't know what really would be best. Some specific generation jailbroken Amazon or Apple device?

Maybe I will just tell them to get a really long HDMI cable and hook their PC up to their TV and get a wireless keyboard/mouse combo. I dunno.

Advice appreciated.

Less Fat Luke
May 23, 2003

Exciting Lemon
I’d get the cheaper Shield and just install Kodi, mount a USB drive and done.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




Budget is like $60. Leaning towards getting a ChromeBox and flashing the firmware so far.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Sub Rosa posted:

Budget is like $60. Leaning towards getting a ChromeBox and flashing the firmware so far.

Yeah you can get the cheapo Android boxes and if its not connected to the internet it should be fine.

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




I was able to get a Acer ChromeBox CXI2-4GKM for forty bucks shipped. I think it will be perfect for their needs after I flash it and set it up. They don't need Android, I think LibreELEC should be great. Now to find a remote.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Sub Rosa posted:

I was able to get a Acer ChromeBox CXI2-4GKM for forty bucks shipped. I think it will be perfect for their needs after I flash it and set it up. They don't need Android, I think LibreELEC should be great. Now to find a remote.

If they have a remote already, try a Flirc. I used to use this on my Shield to control IR on my TV.

https://flirc.tv/more/flirc-usb

wolrah
May 8, 2006
what?

Sub Rosa posted:

Budget is like $60. Leaning towards getting a ChromeBox and flashing the firmware so far.

If you have to build this for your friend that means you're also going to be the one supporting it. Keep that in mind when squeezing the budget. Will saving a couple of bucks now cost you more in time in the future?

Sub Rosa
Jun 9, 2010




wolrah posted:

If you have to build this for your friend that means you're also going to be the one supporting it. Keep that in mind when squeezing the budget. Will saving a couple of bucks now cost you more in time in the future?
A good point, but I'm not doing this for free, and I wouldn't do the support for free. I set the budget for the hardware at 60 so I'm getting 40 for my labor in building it. I think going less functionality with a simple LibreELEC-only box is the best way to reduce complications. It isn't going to be online, and they shouldn't have to ever go into the settings.

Bonzo posted:

If they have a remote already, try a Flirc. I used to use this on my Shield to control IR on my TV.

https://flirc.tv/more/flirc-usb
That looks neat and I might get one for myself, but it's more money and more complication than the simple G20S I decided on.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
I recently discovered the combination of Kodi + IPTV + Debrid and it scratches the exact itch I have these days where I want to watch everything in one place but I don't necessarily want to maintain a giant library of content.

I think I paid $15 for half a year of Real-Debrid.com service? Seems like a steal.

Photex
Apr 6, 2009




This is why I don't gently caress with Kodi what is this shady looking poo poo :wtc:

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?
So I googled Real Debrid and from what I can tell, it’s just a wrapper around all those illegal streaming Kodi addons, where it helps you get the best possible quality for your :filez:. Is that right?

Presumably they’d also curate the sources so when a source inevitably gets taken down, you get a replacement automatically?

EC
Jul 10, 2001

The Legend

Photex posted:

This is why I don't gently caress with Kodi what is this shady looking poo poo :wtc:

I've been using Kodi since before it was Kodi and you never have to touch any of this shady looking poo poo unless you're looking for ways to stream content illegally.

I think there's less and less reason to use Kodi nowadays but I still like it over Plex for streaming local content, mainly because it doesn't constantly try to shove additional content down my throat.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Photex posted:

This is why I don't gently caress with Kodi what is this shady looking poo poo :wtc:

Seems about the same level of shady as using torrents or paying for Usenet.

Keito
Jul 21, 2005

WHAT DO I CHOOSE ?

DR FRASIER KRANG posted:

Seems about the same level of shady as using torrents or paying for Usenet.

Not really, you're paying for the Internet equivalent of a bootleg video store.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?

Keito posted:

Not really, you're paying for the Internet equivalent of a bootleg video store.

It caches the files in their web interface and you can just download them there if you want to keep them. The files are literally the same files I would get from usenet. Yall are weird.

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
I thought for sure the whole Ice Films/Mega debacle would teach people that these services get dinged all the time.


Piracy and porn is probably the only thing keeping usenet alive.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
Yeah I'm not saying this is my permanent solution for media consumption but it works right now and is super convenient for the costs involved. If I still had a working sickbeard setup with a NAS I'd probably still do that but I don't have a place to store everything so I have to be selective and this seems to allow for that.

MagusDraco
Nov 11, 2011

even speedwagon was trolled

EC posted:

I've been using Kodi since before it was Kodi and you never have to touch any of this shady looking poo poo unless you're looking for ways to stream content illegally.

I think there's less and less reason to use Kodi nowadays but I still like it over Plex for streaming local content, mainly because it doesn't constantly try to shove additional content down my throat.

I'd probably swap to Kodi so I wouldn't have to worry about PGS subs on 4K HDR stuff but Kodi just has weird framepacing/framerate judder for me on some files and that doesn't happen with Plex and I'm still not sure why this is the case.

Gonna blame some mix of not knowing how to setup kodi right, the shield tv, the x900f, or the random anime (and a few non anime) mkvs just being weirdly encoded.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I remember getting annoyed with Kodi updates breaking my library a couple of times and I just switched to Plex. It's a little annoying to deal with stuff that's not in a database (I have a couple of libraries of stuff that aren't official and not in the public databases; it pulls the closest match and I have to edit everything to fix it), but I don't use it much and I've never had a issue with the library breaking during an update.

I do have a Windows PC hooked up to my TV and use a wireless keyboard/track pad, cause I'm a nerd who lives alone. I never bothered trying to get my remote to work with Plex. I used it with Kodi, but I don't miss it.

DR FRASIER KRANG
Feb 4, 2005

"Are you forgetting that just this afternoon I was punched in the face by a turtle now dead?
Just today I received a RiiMini i25 remote mouse for my NUC and it works fairly well. I haven't used an air mouse since 2004 or so but the technology seems to have come along. And you can just lock the cursor off screen if you don't need mouse support beyond clicking. It's got a full keyboard on the back which is nice for the odd times you need to search or enter data.

It's even able to suspend the box from the remote so that's a bonus. Plugged it in and LibreELEC knew what to do with it without any problems.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

Uthor posted:

I remember getting annoyed with Kodi updates breaking my library a couple of times and I just switched to Plex. It's a little annoying to deal with stuff that's not in a database (I have a couple of libraries of stuff that aren't official and not in the public databases; it pulls the closest match and I have to edit everything to fix it), but I don't use it much and I've never had a issue with the library breaking during an update.

Same. Jellyfin server and libreelec front end. Survived the latest upgrade just fine. I wiped the Kodi box but all I had to do was set the new install up with the Jellyfin add-on and put in the server address. Library all back including watched status.

Tapedump
Aug 31, 2007
College Slice
What is it, like, every 20 pages this same old nonsense gets trotted out? Each time the "service" names differ but the people are always asking for the same validation.

What's the over/under then for page 159? Three pages either way?

Ah, but it's always pretty entertaining to see the moaning when the spigot closes.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

Tapedump posted:

What is it, like, every 20 pages this same old nonsense gets trotted out? Each time the "service" names differ but the people are always asking for the same validation.

What's the over/under then for page 159? Three pages either way?

Ah, but it's always pretty entertaining to see the moaning when the spigot closes.

Sorry, but which post are you replying to? It's been nearly two weeks since the last post in the thread and now I worried I wrote something you didn't like...

Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!
They are probably talking about the Debrid discussion above. But I'm not sure what you expect in a forum dedicated to an app that was originally created to play pirated media.

Uthor
Jul 9, 2006

Gummy Bear Heaven ... It's where I go when the world is too mean.
I think they're mad that I gave reasons that I don't use Kodi anymore because it was something somebody said 20 pages ago in 2017.

Tapedump
Aug 31, 2007
College Slice
No, EC pretty much summed it up.

The cycle of those who favor, often champion, and invariably get quite huffy when fly-by-night poo poo breaks down...

If you don't recognize the Ice/Nova/Mega et all discussion cycle in this thread, you haven't been reading it for years.

I will admit that myopathy is indeed an attractive way to live one's lift, so I'm probably just jealous of those who can, honesty.

Hippie Hedgehog
Feb 19, 2007

Ever cuddled a hedgehog?

Tapedump posted:

No, EC pretty much summed it up.

The cycle of those who favor, often champion, and invariably get quite huffy when fly-by-night poo poo breaks down...

If you don't recognize the Ice/Nova/Mega et all discussion cycle in this thread, you haven't been reading it for years.

I will admit that myopathy is indeed an attractive way to live one's lift, so I'm probably just jealous of those who can, honesty.

OK, so if I got you right, your post is about how you don't want the thread to discuss :warez: plugins for Kodi.

But still you can't stop yourself from continuing the discussion, if only to say how much you hate the discussion. (Which had already died down two weeks before your post.)

And now you accuse an unknown subset of posters of myopathy, which I googled and it is apparently "neuromuscular disorders in which the primary symptom is muscle weakness due to dysfunction of muscle fiber."

I guess you really like to piss people off, is that it? Still I don't know whether I should be pissed off because you don't care to explain who you're taking offense with, and you used a completely indecipherable insult. (Or is it an insult?)

Personally, I'd be really happy if this thread could be for Kodi users, about how to use Kodi, and not meta-posting about what people should or should not post. But here I am, doing it anyway because you provoked me. Kindly gently caress off with this poo poo.

Edit: It's funny because you basically have no rap sheet so you can't normally be stirring much poo poo...

Hippie Hedgehog fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Dec 15, 2022

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Keito
Jul 21, 2005

WHAT DO I CHOOSE ?
I thought this thread was for flexing about how hard you're not using Kodi.

Now nearly a year after asking for opinions ITT I finally ended up ordering a SHIELD TV Pro yesterday. At this point I really wanted to wait for the inevitable next model but a decent sale popped up. Fingers crossed it'll be the magic "just works" box that everyone claims, looking forward to getting that sweet HDR going since my NUC couldn't deliver there.

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply