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James The 1st posted:I've always loved LoTR and the Hobbit and am now greatly enjoying reading the Silmarillion for the first time. Now I was looking to purchase the Unfinished Tales and the children of Hurin, but some people on Amazon are saying the story in Hurin is also in Unfinished Tales word for word. Is this nonsense? A story of Hurin is in Unfinished Tales, IIRC, but it's not at all the same as Children of Hurin.
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No, anyone sufficiently powerful can wield it. Yes, they will be corrupted, but that doesn't mean they will become subservient to Sauron's will. Gandalf and Galadriel both talk about it.
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The text always implied to me that Evil - or at least a lot of the things that the Elves perceived as evil - was sort of built-in.quote:Then Ilúvatar spoke, and he said: 'Mighty are the Ainur, and mightiest among them is Melkor; but that he may know, and all the Ainur, that I am Ilúvatar, those things that ye have sung and played, lo! I will show them forth, that ye may see what ye have done. And thou, Melkor, shalt see that no theme may be played that hath not its uttermost source in me, nor can any alter the music in my despite. For he that attempteth this shall prove but mine instrument in the devising of things more wonderful, which he himself hath not imagined.' quote:And thou, Melkor, wilt discover all the secret thoughts of thy mind, and wilt perceive that they are but a part of the whole and Ilúvatar has some sort of grand plan for the world, and all of what Melkor did was somehow part of it. It's just that all the people telling the story* take those things as Evil and believe they somehow came wholly from Melkor. *) quote:This was made by Rúmil of Túna in the Elder Days.
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loving iTunes. Is there any way to get that to work in Android?
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skasion posted:Eragon isn’t even ripping off Tolkien except at a remove, it’s Star Wars dressed up in the rotting hide of Tad Williams Wasn't Eragon written by like an 11 year old kid?
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Grave of the Fëanorians
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Dec 19, 2019 08:34
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Judgment at Númenor
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Dec 19, 2019 08:49
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Mahoning posted:Balin Does Belfalas Durin Does Dwarrowdelf
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Dec 21, 2019 19:43
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Helcaraxë or High Water
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Dec 22, 2019 23:38
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Happy Gil-galad
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Dec 23, 2019 09:18
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Finding Dori
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Dec 23, 2019 10:04
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Three Billboards Outside Erebor, Middle Earth
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Dec 23, 2019 10:10
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Mahoning posted:Felis Catus 
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May 23, 2020 18:16
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Ginette Reno posted:
In Galadriel's case, I wonder how much of that is really from the ring, and how much is just because she's the oldest, most powerful elf in Middle Earth, who saw the light of the Trees and learned much of perception from Melian.
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Arcsquad12 posted:Perhaps one of you can give a better idea, but just where did Ungoliant come from? She seems like she's almost from a different dimension than other beings in Tolkien's writing. She's not a Valar, if she was a Maia she's extremely loving powerful to contend with Melkor, and the only explanation I've seen that sounds possible (but unconfirmed) is that she is the manifestation of the all-consuming void. There may be more Valar than the 14 Lords and Queens. (This seems to be a controversial idea, and the text isn't extremely clear about it.) She could be one of them. Or something related to this: Ainulindalë posted:Yet some things there are that they [the Valar] cannot see, neither alone nor taking counsel together; for to none but himself has Iluvatar revealed all that he has in store, and in every age there come forth things that are new and have no foretelling, for they do not proceed from the past.
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Jul 5, 2020 21:53
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webmeister posted:Related question: I've never actually watched anything on Amazon Prime (it launched pretty late in Australia). Are any of their original shows actually good? Now that The Expanse is on there... The Boys was also pretty good. I liked Electric Sheep on there too.
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Jul 11, 2020 02:20
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William Bear posted:A beautiful song that never would have existed outside Arda Marred. Those kinds of passages are the reason Tolkien is the greatest. The ability to state something like that without sounding exaggerated, contrived, or corny is marvelous.
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Aug 5, 2020 21:04
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Data Graham posted:Or put another way, I intended to refer to the written passage, and the superlatives with which it describes Lúthien's song. But this works too. My quote was clumsy. 
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Aug 5, 2020 22:40
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Ravenfood posted:Just after Frodo takes the Ring off while on Amon Hen, he feels an arm groping away blindly to the north and west above him. Movie should have had a giant cloud-arm shoving out of Barad-dur and reaching away towards him. (As silly and on the nose as it is I actually think it works fairly well as a visual metaphor for the movies well enough.) Well... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLKk2_2zQwg
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Sep 7, 2020 18:16
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 Kid-friendly, you say?
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Dec 9, 2020 04:57
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Shibawanko posted:same with sci fi: strugatsky, lem and dick is all that was really needed *Herbert waves from the back*
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Dec 18, 2020 21:50
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webmeister posted:Sing all the songs to the tune of Pop Goes the Weasel (or Gilligan's Island, if you're into that) It's Tolkien, not Emily Dickinson!
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Jan 26, 2021 19:33
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Arc Hammer posted:Also something else I've wondered WRT the three hosts of the Noldor. They clearly brought their women with them given how Aredhel, Galadriel and Finduilas came over with the hosts. For an event like the First Kinslaying would they have participated and then jump aboard the ships with Fëanor's host, or would Fëanor have left the women behind and those women followed Fingolfin's host across the ice? Probably some of them were in each host.  Galadriel herself crossed the ice.
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Bongo Bill posted:If an elf's name starts with F, they're kind of a cock; if their name starts with C, they're a mega-cock, and if their name starts with M, they're relatively cool. Fingolfin is pretty much the coolest and best elf, so there are definitely exceptions.
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