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I am bad at not submitting to peer pressure.
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Jenner posted:
This is all really cool (I had no idea there was a fourth Lunar game), but this really interests me. I was just thinking about trying to find some scans from the art book for bonus stuff. If you want to post stuff from it, I'd really appreciate it, and I'll even toss it up in the second post. I mean, be mindful of spoilers, obviously, but I'd love to see the concept art for this game. I'm gonna add a link to this in the OP.
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Feb 28, 2013 01:46
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There's even a translation patch for the Game Gear version floating around.
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Feb 28, 2013 01:49
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Crowetron posted:(I had no idea there was a fourth Lunar game) I think you mean third Lunar game  (Seriously, gently caress Dragon Song.) dis astranagant posted:There's even a translation patch for the Game Gear version floating around. Really? I'd heard about that, didn't know they finished. Yay!
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Feb 28, 2013 01:52
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Jenner posted:(Seriously, gently caress Dragon Song.) Dragon Song? What is this Dragon Song you speak of? Are you feeling okay, Jenner?
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Feb 28, 2013 01:56
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I have played Magic School with the translation patch. The game is... okay. It's not great. It's kind of aimless, plot-wise, and the gameplay is really easy and more Dragon Quest-y than Lunar-y, but some of the characters are fun and it's got some charm. I'll sooner call it a Lunar game than... the other one. There's also some kinda... hosed up moments in it. Nothing really bad or anything, but eye-brow raising.
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Feb 28, 2013 01:57
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Pretty much. I put a few hours in and it was just little girls faffing about Vane.
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Feb 28, 2013 01:59
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Oh poo poo, there is an art book. There you go, LP forum. Making me spend more money on video game crap.
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Feb 28, 2013 15:29
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Isn't Dragon Song the game where RUNNING hurts you?
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Feb 28, 2013 23:00
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Omnicrom posted:Isn't Dragon Song the game where RUNNING hurts you? Yes, and you can get either EXP or Money after every random battle, BUT NOT BOTH! In other news, update later tonight.
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Omnicrom posted:Isn't Dragon Song the game where RUNNING hurts you? Crowetron posted:Yes, and you can get either EXP or Money after every random battle, BUT NOT BOTH!  VVV: Hey, I won't be the one playing 
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Mar 1, 2013 00:59
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Pierzak posted:OK, now someone has to LP it, it seems hilarious (as long as one doesn't have to play it themselves) It's not that funny once you actually play the game... it gets dull very, very quickly. I actually hear the game gets slightly better towards the end? That's what I hear, but the only way that piece of poo poo could improve to the point where it's worth playing is if you replaced the end game with Final Fantasy 4. Camel Pimp fucked around with this message at 01:04 on Mar 1, 2013 |
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Mar 1, 2013 01:02
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Omnicrom posted:Isn't Dragon Song the game where RUNNING hurts you? And I thought Skyward Sword's stamina meter was an abomination.
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Episode 6: Take Me to Your Leader  Well, it turns out touching random glowing globes in ancient magic towers pays off!   : "You don't think the Destroyer is around here, do you? I don't wanna be eaten by a monster!" : "Heh, heh! You worry too much, Ruby! And besides, I don't think either of us looks very tasty!" : "What if it doesn't want to eat us, but kills us anyway just for kicks?": "Uh...HEY lookit that over there!"  : "Hey, I wonder if this is what--" : "Let's poke it." *BOOM*   : "OOOOHHHHH!" : "YAAAHH!"The Plot Arrives    dat crystal goin crazy      A stylish figure appears     : "H-Hiro..." Space Lady enters the Star Gate.     Sup?  Nothing compliments an entrance like that better than a dainty landing.   I try to show up to all my job interviews like that. It uh...it doesn't work out.  Yeah, that's a pretty typical reaction. : "I think I'm gonna hurl!"     !!!   Lunar 2 is basically all sweet capes all the time.   : "My name is Lucia. I have come from the Blue Star on an urgent mission."  : "Your world is in grave danger. I must see Althena immediately. Take me to her." : "Do...do you think she's friendly? She looks like she could be some sort of Goddess or something." : "What are we going to do, Hiro?"   : "Ruby to Hiro!"  : "She's...the most beautiful girl I've ever seen."  That's an odd thing for a talking pink cat-bird to say.   Ruby then proceeds to smack the poo poo outta Hiro for behaving like the teenage boy he is.  Lucia cares little for this slapstick, and walks right past them.  : "I must find Althena and join with her to fight Zophar." : "Althena? The Goddess of our world?": "That is an incredibly awkward phrasing, but yes, that Althena.": "Why do you need to find her?"  : "I'm Hiro, and this is Ruby." : "In the flesh!": "You two are residents of this world? You must guide me to Althena. It is urgent that I find her and speak to her." : "Hiro's an adventurer not a tour guide! And no one knows where Althena is anyway!" When forced to choose between his faithful feline companion or the pretty lady who appeared out of thin air that he kinda sorta saw naked for a split second, Hiro does what any 17 year old boy would do.  Wassup, Space Lady   : "Hmph! We'll see what Grandpa has to say about this, Hiro!" : "Ruby, if you mess this up for me, you are going straight into the lake, I swear to Goddess!" How do we get outta here, anyway?   Oh. MEANWHILE  Gwyn doesn't know what the gently caress!   Gwyn's gonna have a loving heart attack up in here!  : "You had me beside myself with worry, young man! I've been looking all over for you! Where in tarnation did you go?" You can almost see the gears slowly turning in his head.  Oh yeah, I guess there's this lady I've never seen before right in front of me. What's up with that? : "Her name is Lucia. We found her at the top of the Blue Spire, inside a giant green crystal! And guess what, Grandpa! She says she's from the Blue Star!" : "You're shittin' me.": "I assure you that I am not 'making GBS threads' anyone."  : "Hiro, we have to get out of here right away!" : "If Lord Leo discovers her here, we're in big trouble, and so is she. We'll talk later...let's go." Gwyn's got a point, so let's bail.  Lucia's joined our party, but she's a guest character. She doesn't have any real stats and we can't control her in battle.  We can take a look at her gear, but that's about it. Lucia's as much a party member as Ruby is, really.  Sadly, she doesn't really feel like teleporting us anymore, so we gotta walk all the way back down the Spire.  : "I know, right? Such a drag. But anyway..."  Uh five Crystal Knights? This might take more than a few swings, buddy.   : "Do not interfere!"    Luckily, Lucia has no patience for this random battle nonsense and just nukes the fuckers into next September!  And we get the rewards despite doing nothing for the 10 seconds it took for Lucia to blow those dudes up. Lucia, you are now my favorite  : "Yeah I saw it. It was cool as heck!": "Lucia, how were you able to cast such a powerful spell?": "I have no time for questions, Hiro. You must take me to the Goddess Althena, and quickly." Lu don't give a gently caress what you think, she's got a world to save, bitches! : "Hey, wait up! Did I offend you? I'm sorry if I did! Lucia? Lucia!" : "Hiro...I don't think Lucia is human. Her magic is stronger than any I've ever seen. Lord Leo could be right. She could be the Destroyer. But why would she come here?" My hormones are never wrong!   Yeah, we probably shouldn't let a walking WMD who may or may not be the harbinger of the apocalypse walk around unsupervised. Good thinking, talking cat.
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By the way, this is still backlog stuff, so menu color changes won't happen for another update or so. Still time to vote if you feel strongly about that!
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Mar 1, 2013 04:14
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And thus did Hiro name one of the entries in The Grand List of Roleplaying Cliches. Though I will give the game credit for admitting that Hiro is probably trusting his hormones over his commmon sense.
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Mar 1, 2013 04:26
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Oh my god, how did I miss this thread until now? I loved this game, I was always jealous of people who owned a Sega CD because I really, really wanted to play this game (and it's prequel) back in the day. When this came out, I bought the Complete version and played the poo poo out of it. Really, really looking forward to this, this is one of my all time favorite games.
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Mar 1, 2013 04:35
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Oh gods Lucia's VA 
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Mar 1, 2013 05:01
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:Oh gods Lucia's VA Give it TIME. This poo poo vocalization, believe it or not, is actually part of her characterization.
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Mar 1, 2013 05:05
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Lucia's VA... has grown on me throughout the years. It's still kind of awkward to listen to, I'll admit. I'm a bit torn on it, on a while. I'm honestly not sure if the voice actress is even strictly the issue or whether it's voice direction; Lucia's kind of an odd character.
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Mar 1, 2013 05:08
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Lucia hasn't exactly done much talking in the last thousand years, probably more.
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Mar 1, 2013 05:12
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I honestly think the best part of following these LPs is not having to listen to the voice acting in these games.
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Lucia's voice acting gets better, or at least you get used to it, but I have to admit the delivery of "Take me to her" in that intro is loving terrible.
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Mar 1, 2013 05:35
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I like the way Lucia is characterized as the game goes on. Not story-wise, since she's just a cliche like everyone else in this game, but in game mechanics terms. Crowetron will probably talk about it when it comes up (if I'm right and that's really how it works anyway, I could be wrong), but if they don't then maybe I'll remember to bring it up.
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Mar 1, 2013 06:22
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 If you wait to grind until now, you can get Lucia to do all the hard work for you.
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Mar 1, 2013 07:02
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For a while anyway. She eventually gets tired of your poo poo and starts casting a spell that ends the fight without giving you xp.
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Mar 1, 2013 07:12
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dis astranagant posted:For a while anyway. She eventually gets tired of your poo poo and starts casting a spell that ends the fight without giving you xp. Really? I never knew that. Then again, I'm sick to my rear end of the Blue Spire, so I usually just try to blitz through it as quickly as possible so I can get to the real plot.
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Mar 1, 2013 07:16
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Yeah, it doesn't start til you grind to level 16 or something completely retarded.
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Well, this thread is certainly relevant to my interests. Lunar 2, as opposed to Lunar 1, is one of my favorite games of all time. There's a lot of cliches at work at first, yes (there's a reason Hiro named that rule, after all), but this game is pretty drat good at dropping some surprises on you, some more effective than others. It's also quite effective at... answering a question Lunar 1 leaves unanswered. We can sperg a bit about that when we get there. Crowetron, you're doing a fantastic job with the extra dialogue, by the way. It's clear you have the characters down pat. Leo. And yeah, the way Lucia gets characterized in gameplay is interesting as well. Though, again, that should perhaps be covered a little bit later.
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Mar 1, 2013 07:20
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dis astranagant posted:Yeah, it doesn't start til you grind to level 16 or something completely retarded. I generally want to show off everything I can, but like hell am I doing that. I barely have enough patience for grinding as it is. I spent my entire test playthrough underleveled. SpaceDrake posted:Crowetron, you're doing a fantastic job with the extra dialogue, by the way. It's clear you have the characters down pat. Leo. Aw geeze, thanks. 
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Mar 1, 2013 07:27
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It takes surprisingly little time if you set your emulator up properly but then you gotta remember to turn it back when you're fishin for screenshots and voice clips.
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Mar 1, 2013 07:33
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Lucia: Every cliche, somehow making it all work. You're alright, girl.
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Really, there's nothing wrong with having a character start as a cliche or trope, so long as you flesh that cliche or trope out. They won't exactly be the deepest character ever, but they can be enjoyable to watch and fairly interesting at the same time, and it can lead to more entertaining interactions with other characters. If Lunar were trying to be super-serious all the time, that'd be one thing, but the way characters are written in this game works pretty well with the game's tone, and like I said, they're fun to watch bounce off each other.
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Mar 1, 2013 08:12
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I just recorded the spell but it'll be a while before my terrible connection finishes uploading it. Turns out you only need to be level 14. I also took some screencaps of a bug you can do by casting calm litany while Lucia's in the party and then hitting the shoulder buttons a couple times. E: here it is dis astranagant fucked around with this message at 09:49 on Mar 1, 2013 |
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Mar 1, 2013 08:38
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dis astranagant posted:I just recorded the spell but it'll be a while before my terrible connection finishes uploading it. Turns out you only need to be level 14. I also took some screencaps of a bug you can do by casting calm litany while Lucia's in the party and then hitting the shoulder buttons a couple times. That's pretty funny, actually. I'll include it in the next update with credit, if that's okay with you.
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Mar 1, 2013 10:34
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Go for it. She has a few other skills with odd triggers along the way that I'll point out when we get there. One of them might be possible now but getting it to happen is annoying even when she isn't instakilling everything with other spells. That and I kinda hosed up and saved over my Blue Spire file before I thought about it.
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Mar 1, 2013 10:46
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dis astranagant posted:I just recorded the spell but it'll be a while before my terrible connection finishes uploading it. Turns out you only need to be level 14. I also took some screencaps of a bug you can do by casting calm litany while Lucia's in the party and then hitting the shoulder buttons a couple times. I've heard of this before, but never actually seen it as I was too lazy to grind to see it myself. Thanks for this!
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Mar 1, 2013 10:52
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I love that even the game itself explicitly acknowledges why this triggers. "All that hard work, and you didn't get squat!"
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Mar 1, 2013 10:56
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There's another spell later that does the same thing and one fight that has that message no matter what. It also comes up if you hit level 18 in the demo (this might be a little lower, haven't played the demo in over a decade and all) Here's those bug pictures, I only uploaded the interesting ones that come from getting a look at Lucia's spell list. She might have some descriptions for a couple other ones she gets but I haven't gone looking for a save that has them yet. The first 2 are pretty familiar, just tooltips that never otherwise display for 2 of her attack spells.   This one isn't the same Atomic Burn shown above: it's an aoe centered on her with a different voice clip and animation  This last one is a real oddity that only gets cast if you wear a specific accessory to the first final boss fight.  It's a full revive with Lucia yelling "Hiro!"
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Choco1980 posted:I love that even the game itself explicitly acknowledges why this triggers.
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