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Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Does anyone have any info on Halifax? There is a lot of development off the peninsula going on in anticipation of a massive job surge because of the shipbuilding contract. I'm really worried about this because:

1. the only way to get downtown is by car, really, and traffic and congestion in Halifax is already pretty loving bad

2. this province has a bizarre obsession with the whole "If you build it, they will come" thing. The 200 million dollar convention centre they're building is going to sit next to one that's got a 33% usage rate.

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Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

SpannerX posted:

Picaroons is pretty drat good. I buy it over Propeller, I really like their bitter. It's a toss up between them and Garrison's for me.

Oh, yeah, I don't know what they are thinking building all those condos/whatever they are around Bedford. That just seems crazy. and the WTC building they are thinking about? Waste of money. But then our new idiot mayor is talking about CFL and NHL here. WTF? He's a tool. I thought Kelly was bad, this shitheel is looking like a complete moron from the get go. But then I voted for the gay guy with the chickens and hair saloon.

I honestly think Savage might have been just recognizing where he is when it comes to those comments about bringing the CHL and NHL here. There would be quite a lot of people and shills for developers "journalists" at the Chronicle Herald out here decrying him if he came out and said that there is no loving way in hell that Halifax should have a CFL or NHL team. That is part of the problem here, in and of itself; people are so hungry for development that they don't matter what that development is or whether it belongs here. I'm from Toronto, and seeing developers and journalists say "if you build it they will come" without a hint of irony scares the gently caress out of me.

Kelly was an actual horrible human being, worse than Ford or pretty much anyone I can think of at the moment. Rob Ford was actually a decent person and did a lot for his district - Kelly has always been about the FYGM Bedford old boys crowd.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Fine-able Offense posted:

Pro post, though I'd add:

-Institute a real loving building code

-Actually inspect/enforce said building code.

True story: the head building inspector for the City of Burnaby once told a co-worker of mine that they "don't actually go in to inspect buildings anymore, we just sign the permit sight unseen". When asked why this was the case, he said it was because their legal department had told them it would protect them in the event that an inspector missed something and the city got sued.

Somebody from the City of North Van (iirc, it may have been the District) chimed in to say that their legal people had told them the same.

If that is Vancouver I am legitimately honestly very, very, very scared about Halifax. Qualified tradesmen and builders do not suddenly exist out of thin air.

Again, Haligonians' opinion, but straight up banning the construction of new subdivisions or making them extremely financially unattractive until density is re-established is something I think needs to be done.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Albino Squirrel posted:

Case in point of how Vancouver has priced itself out of reality: I graduated med school in 2006 and residency in 2008, both in Edmonton. I had always wanted to live in Vancouver or Toronto, as I'm much more... socialist... than the average person here in Alberta. The reason I wanted to live in either of those places (or Montreal, but that's a hostile environment for family docs) is that I prefer a low-commute urban lifestyle to living out in the burbs. I also prefer older neighbourhoods, most of which have heritage/character homes in them.

[..]

Edmonton actually turns out to have some very nice neighbourhoods which still have some properties (if you're lucky) for reasonable prices. I lucked out and was able to find a good condition heritage home in a walkable neighbourhood, 10 minutes by car or 30 minutes by transit away from my office, for less than half a mil. Similar properties don't exist given commute times in Vancouver or Toronto, but if you got a bit farther out you'd be paying ~1.5 in Toronto or 3 million plus in Vancouver. Incomes certainly aren't any higher in BC or Ontario, so I presume the bubble has to pop soon. Because loving nobody can afford real estate anymore.

Just out of curiosity, what district in Edmonton did you end up in? I've been pretty averse to moving out there even though it's the "Promised Land" for my field. Part of it has been politics, but another part of it has to do with racism. I'm not really sure how they treat black people out there; in rural Nova Scotia they seem to see them primarily as farm workers and as a nuisance.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

etalian posted:

Off-topic but you can look up a interesting solution called the Vienna model for housing.

Wouldn't work for most cities since it depends on municipal government owning vast tracts of land in the city instead of private parties.

This allows the city government to cut deals with developers to expand or convert existing buildings to high quality class A rental units.

So the developer gets a chance to develop nice properties for a decent return over the lease agreement while the city government is able to provide both affordable and quality housing.

The Vienna model also gives the renters unique home ownership features such as being able to remodel their rental properties and also pass on the rental properties to their kids.

Pretty much makes more sense from instead of going with the US speculation model which places a higher priority on the appreciation "investment" aspect of housing instead of focusing on keep the price affordable in terms of income for the area and also keep the housing inflation expenses flat over time.

Also throwing out the "investment" perspective helps prevent the nasty entanglement with the beloved banking sector through government back of the private mortgage market or having the government held hostage when the bubbles explodes.

While this is impossible in most Canadian cities, from first glance this seems to be very, very possible in Halifax. Mostly because there are no actual tenants besides the big entertainment complexes/cabaret bars really left in the downtown area. I rarely like the idea of private-public partnerships but this actually seems like a very good way to take care of two problems at once.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Icemakor posted:

I'm trying to figure out what to do in halifax myself. I've got a good bit of cash in the bank and I'm just itching to pull the trigger (probably a detached $180K-200K house in spryfield or dartmouth).

This ships start here bullshit sort of throws a wrench in the mix.

Halifax, outside of the obvious areas, seems to still be a great place to buy a home. Housing prices in Dartmouth, Cole Harbour, etc. don't seem to be too affected by the hype. Condo prices downtown and anywhere they can lure foreign student investment money is a shitshow. The NDP right now is promising some sort of tax rebate for "young families" who buy a home. This sounds great until you realize that there aren't that many people for whom that would help with buying a home (i.e. if your combined family income is ~40k, making the interest on the mortgage tax refundable isn't going to make you buy a home)

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Rime posted:

I'm sure the Masters in Archaeology I had planned to pursue would have been SUCH a payoff compared to the startup I've worked at for five years.

No degree is "worth the debt", that line of thinking died around the same time as the dot com implosion. At least we won't be facing a shortage of baristas for decades to come thanks to people like you still parroting it though!

Encouraging everyone to get a degree has been problematic but letting everyone get a degree seems to have been a thing as well. There's a market glut for some majors because they've been encouraged to have ridiculously large class sizes and low requirements for entry.

e: and I don't really think that subjects should be judged on practicality in case it wasn't clear. Any degree is worth it if you're really interested in it, etc. etc.

Isentropy fucked around with this message at 04:17 on Nov 21, 2013

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Cultural Imperial posted:

The maritimes are great if you like incest and dimwits

And unemployment.

The thing to keep in mind about the Maritimes is the lack of well-paying employment. There are no good jobs unless you happen to have some kind of professional certification - something they can't just hire their friends for - in which case you'll just be woefully underpaid compared to everyone else in Canada. You can always tell who went to KES or the schools with "connections" though - they'll usually be a "Senior" despite having 5 years experience and really not being that good at anything. "Lower cost of living" doesn't mean poo poo when you're making ~1/2 of what you could in another province.

Oh and by the way, your taxes jump to 15% past 30,000 (and past say 40k I think you actually would pay less taxes in Quebec than out here).

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

mik posted:

I don't think you fully appreciate how much we get hosed in Quebec for income taxes. You start paying 20% above $41k, and then 24% to $82k, and then finally 25.75% above $100k. The highest rate in the Maritimes is in Nova Scotia where the highest bracket is 21% and only kicks in above $150k. Not that it invalidates the rest of your post - the only reason I'm not dreading moving back to PEI from Montreal is because I'll still be getting paid my Montreal salary, but paying PEI taxes and living costs.

Yeah it's been a while since I lived there :( that's far and away the worst rate in Canada, but you do seem to get some societal benefit from it. NS has basically replaced their personal welfare state with a corporate welfare state (we have a history of massive handouts to corporations that weren't really sustainable, and of giving money to people like the Irvings who reallly don't need any)

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Just gonna leave this bad boy here:



I wonder if Halifax gets used as a case study in planning classes in "what not to do".

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Rick Rickshaw posted:

Here in Halifax we're desperate to break ground on anything that will slip by the Heritage society - a group that stops any and all growth in the name of preserving our "Heritage", which is a notion I'm not totally against, but we need to set limits.

I can agree that the Heritage Trust is generally pretty obstructionist, but there also seems to be a notion (which to be fair, seems to be the Heritage Trust's fault as well) that Halifax is the only city with historic buildings and that we can't do anything because of it. The building looks ugly but the main reason I hate it is that there seems to be no real attempt to integrate the building into the surrounding area at all. The developers here seem to think that all they need to do is build what they saw in Montreal or Toronto or whatever and suddenly we'll be a World Class City.

It's the same thinking that has developers building $1600 dollar condos out in the burbs with swimming pools and movie theatres and wondering how comes they can't sell them.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Professor Shark posted:

Heh, I'm not sure if your textbooks went up this high, but you're missing out on a very important period of history where this was actually disastrous to the world. They called it the Great Depression, and people had to light oranges on fire, truckers gave large tips to the ones that didn't need it, and men drank from women's breasts because there was so little food :smuggo:

Just this morning I was at work and saw a front-page article talking about the labour shortage in California Alberta picking oranges doing basic labour

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

This somewhat-old article in The Chronicle Herald is alleged to have been written by an independent seller, but given they just let the owner of an oil company write editorials criticising the province for banning fracking under her regular column without stating her interests I really doubt it. This has to be a developer. Otherwise we're all hosed.

He basically believes that the Halifax housing market hasn't slowed down due to the simple fact that we have some of the worst wages and taxes in Canada but because of negativity about the housing market. He thinks "free market principles" should be allowed to reign in the housing market... and then calls for a government subsidy for purchasing houses (a writeoff of closing costs). He believes these same free market principles mean that, if there is an oversupply of houses, prices will lower but eventually demand will increase such that all the extra houses will be bought.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010


PEI did the same drat thing, except the "business owners" didn't actually exist and it took an investigation by the loving University of Kings College to find this out. Among other things:

quote:

1. The P.E.I. government interpreted Ottawa’s immigration rules in such a way that immigrants could be considered actively involved in businesses they knew little or nothing about.

2. The program brought thousands of immigrants to Canada, mostly from China and the Middle East. But with no tangible connection to P.E.I., many immigrants either never came or moved on quickly rather than settle on the Island as Ottawa intended.

3. Organizations that would otherwise have been ineligible were able to access immigrant money by creating new corporations structured to meet the program’s rules.

4. If the program had operated as advertised, it would have pumped more than $660 million into strategic sectors of the P.E.I. economy, twice the annual value of the Island’s agricultural sector. The real amounts were far less, and more than half of the money was made by middlemen.

5. Ottawa spent several years trying to get P.E.I. to change its program to conform with federal regulations, but P.E.I. pressed ahead, leading to a fierce war of words, and Ottawa’s decision to force the shutdown of the program down in 2008.

It was a massive loving handout to the Atlantic Canadian business class. PEI should be sued for this money, because it was so blatantly obvious what was going on (hmm... rural Chinese family wants to relocate to a town 1 hr outside of Charlottetown to work for a business that works out of some guy's house...) but they just kept on keeping on.

Atlantic Canada, man. Jesus Christ.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Lexicon posted:

Cute that we're still allowing a little island with half the population of greater Victoria to pretend it's a province.

It is insane that the Atlantics have still not yet amalgamated into a single province.

The typical argument used is "culture", even though:

*Nova Scotia's "Celtic" culture is a 1950s invention, isn't even true, and ignores the people who've been there much longer
*PEI is really, really tiny
*New Brunswick is a large company town

edit: I would like to clarify that there is plenty of culture and original art out here, if you know where to look - but the government out here would rather spend their money on poo poo like building a copy of the Bluenose(!). At least they don't give funds to car manufacturers and "heavy water plants" these days.

Isentropy fucked around with this message at 21:45 on Oct 9, 2014

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Lexicon posted:

I don't even understand how 'culture' could even be an argument against amalgamation. What's harmful to culture about realizing some economies of scale by combining three replicas of the same government infrastructure?

MLAs are very protective of their local fiefdoms and patronage systems. A Liberal premier (Dr. John Savage?) actually got ran out over ending the policy of patronage appointments that every government, including the current one, has used since at least the 50s.

edit: things like firing all the deputy ministers and replacing them with your own, appointing failed candidates and campaign managers to things like head of the efficiency and social service agencies...

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010


I believe we should be trying to help immigrants settle in Canada CI, not chasing them away. These fine guys are doing a hell of a job.



they're changing their name

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Baronjutter posted:

run the agency into the ground so it's easier to shut down/sell off later (see Canada Post)

I wasn't paying attention to politics at the time (engineering school) but was there any sort of uproar about Deepak Chopra being appointed as Canada Post head? The writing must have obviously been on the wall...

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Dreylad posted:

That's pretty accurate yeah.

our provincial liberals in NS once forced out a sitting premier with a majority government because he wasn't giving them enough kickbacks

e: point being, while Quebec is corrupt, there are many places out of the public eye in Canada that give them a good run for their money

Isentropy fucked around with this message at 04:12 on Nov 9, 2014

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Shifty Pony posted:

In the states similar things are happening (although not quite as blatant) and the student body makeup at many of the big universities is starting to shift to be much more international. State schools in particular are being really bad about it because despite their charters generally being aimed at to educating in state kids they make more money on out-of-state students and even more on out of country. Professors are starting to squawk about having a ton of students that can't speak or write passable English despite acing the TOEFL, but the admissions departments smell money and are going full steam ahead recruiting students from China and Korea.

It's annoying for the professors but deadly for the other students. Group projects in engineering become nightmares when half the group submits their portion via Google Translate. I know this from personal experience. For those who don't want to try, they can always claim that they didn't understand the plagiarism rules (even if, say, they copied entire sections word for word from Google results). For those from the Gulf states there's always the option of paying someone's rent money for a month or two to get the whole paper researched and written for them. And as for enforcement of academic standards?

etalian posted:

rich foreign students can basically get same treatment as college athletes in the USA.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

flashman posted:

Thats why we should only let in the rich ones...

You can write a government report and be paid a five-figure amount for this insight, you know.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

etalian posted:

I always lol at other threads in which albertans whine about other provinces stealing their money.

the only correct response to Albertans (and their Atlantic wannabes) complaining about equalization is to demand back payment with interest for the years that Alberta had absolutely nothing and was subsidized by Ontario and Quebec

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

It's somewhat easy to tell that something odd is going on with commercial real estate in Halifax, I think. Our "main street" downtown is starting to become just as bad as Fredericton or Moncton. Lots and buildings have been sitting empty for a while now. They own the properties but no one's actually willing to pay for them because, due to our horrific urban design, no one can actually get to businesses downtown and not that many people actually live nearby.

But don't worry, the new convention centre will save everyone! By taking up the entire heart of the downtown, closing down one of the few pedestrian friendly areas in the city, and blowing 150 million dollars from our road paving fund (and a healthy dose of federal government money)!

(To be fair though, everyone who's been in Nova Scotia as an adult knows that "infrastructure fund" = political slush money)

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

etalian posted:

It has lovely scenery and weather.

IIRC, we're actually rainier than London.

OSI bean dip posted:

I could have sworn they had one already.

They did. It was built in the 80s. At the time people hated it saying it was a huge waste of taxpayer money but look how well it's turned out! It's only 2/3 empty now that Halifax city government leases space in the building and therefore our municipal taxes and fines are subsidizing it!

Our roads are absolute poo poo by the way. Even though that's mostly a political thing, I feel like we could get some use out of $150 million...

edit: It's actually not even the most ridiculous project in Nova Scotia right now, there's a rural council out in Cape Breton spending 9 million to subsidize an airstrip. Literal cargo cult capitalism.

Isentropy fucked around with this message at 02:35 on Jan 21, 2015

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

OSI bean dip posted:

Halifax strikes me as one of the weirdest places in Canada. Every time I have gone there I found myself liking the place but then wondered what the hell people did for work. A few shipyards, naval base, and an airport in the middle of nowhere does not make for a well economy.

What use is the Atlantic is to us minus a small amount of oil and a shitload of government subsidies?

Then it's great that you haven't been to rural NS. The lucky parts are one-industry towns. The unlucky parts are straight out of the Rust Belt. Government grants crazy exemptions from environmental regulation and taxation to prevent whole towns from falling apart. Pictou got so bad recently that Paul Sobey himself was reduced to calling into CBC like an angry AM radio caller demanding the government enforce their own laws.

It's a great source of cheap labour and smug "Albertans" though.

The serious problem facing the Maritimes is demography. Few young people stay and have children. Of those, even fewer are able to find jobs out here (meaning that our investment in education is mostly going to other provinces). We basically only see people during the most expensive stages of their life, and the government doesn't really care about young voters at all. In the past year, they have planned to drop the tuition freeze and revoked $50 million in tax credits for new graduates. They know that anyone out here in that 25-34 bracket is either too hosed socioeconomically to vote or benefits from the status quo.

Isentropy fucked around with this message at 02:52 on Jan 21, 2015

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Rime posted:

Yeah, I second the WTF on the Powell River buzz recently. It's an extremely isolated dying mill town with no economy, horrible horrible people, and one of the worst rates of teenage drug and alcohol abuse in the entire province. (The "talented young people" that guy is going on about are the same ones that drive logging trucks drunk at 10am, so watch out!). The place has no redeeming qualities and may god have mercy on the soul of anyone who is stupid enough to move to that godforsaken shithole.

And yet it's being fluffed all over the loving place for some reason. :psyduck:

It's really, really bizarre how most of these stories could be transplanted to almost any small town in Canada if you only change a few details. Do you have the hosed up kids running around knifing gay people and shooting at/bashing cats, or the parks full of empties and condoms (and I mean full)?

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Lexicon posted:

It's sort of odd to use "we have low real estate prices" as a marketing point. I mean, if a place has low real estate prices, fine, but to trumpet about it is more or less to fully admit that a place is either not a desirable place to live or there are gently caress all job opportunities there.

Or the job opportunities that pay well are not really dependent on local demand (think government jobs).

Anecdotally, our province recently tried to "spread the wealth" by moving several of their department offices to rural areas. I'm trying to find the article (other NSposters might be more familiar with this) but at the DFO, pretty much everyone who could resigned.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Kraftwerk posted:

The Bombardier Global 5000/6000 series business jets. Until recently they were the best in their class. Then the company decided to overinvest in multiple capital intensive projects and subsequently gently caress all of them up and layoff about 2500+ people. Now Gulfstream has them soundly beat.

Seriously this was the one company and product that was the crown jewel of this country and it's been going down the shitter for the last 3 years. Canada can't have nice things.

As someone about to go back to grad school for aero stuff, are local companies trying to pick up the slack? Or is it a "don't go, no jobs, die alone" kind of deal?

I ask in this thread because aerospace is, as far as I know, one of the few things that other countries will pay us to make/do (as opposed to being some crazy DEVCO/SYSCO autarkic deal). I know that several major companies (R&R, Pratt, CAE, etc.) do research and development (!!) and build stuff in Montreal.

Isentropy fucked around with this message at 01:17 on Jan 31, 2015

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

blah_blah posted:

The most profitable sport in the US is the NFL, by far: http://money.cnn.com/2015/01/30/news/companies/nfl-taxpayers/, and any claims that e.g. NBA teams are losing money is largely accounting smoke and mirrors: http://deadspin.com/5816870/exclusive-how-and-why-an-nba-team-makes-a-7-million-profit-look-like-a-28-million-loss

The NHL, on the other hand, has at least one team that definately loses money and has more than a few teams (like, anywhere where it doesn't snow) that can't move tickets. Even playoff tickets against top teams cost less than $50.00 in the South. If you ever want to see a Leafs or Habs playoff game and aren't a Bay Street employee, just wait until they play Tampa or Florida or something and save $500+.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Kraftwerk posted:

Most young people have been leaving the company because they quickly realized they are forgetting or wasting their engineering skills on what amounts to a clerical engineering document reading comprehension job. They're great to work for as a start to your career, but you'll want to quickly leave and go work for a proper design firm both to keep your skills and get higher pay.

(...)

Working for the actual airframer like Bombardier will limit your career and tie your fate almost exclusively to the fate of that company. There are a lot of "lifers" there who have no career prospects outside that company because they stayed too long. Aerospace also doesn't pay that well compared to say working for AMD, Intel etc. So it's more of a "dedication" type job than a well compensated one.

This is bizarrely familiar. I work for a MRO in Canada often described as "the place you go to supplement your military pension". I have gotten the same advice - it's a great place to stay, but don't try make a career of it because eventually you'll stall out and won't be able to go anywhere else. They still provide us with overtime and a lot of good benefits, especially for the area and at our level (where there are firms that will pay mechanical engineers 35k, no overtime or benefits), but you can lose your skills very, very fast if you're not careful. Some of the benefits, like paid overtime, actually disappear after a few years. Document revision, database management, and stuff like that will make up a huge portion of your time here, and while they're all really useful you do not want to be doing that for any more than a couple years.

It's good to hear that the guys hollering about "C's make degrees" and bombing every course requiring advanced math on their way to Fort Mac weren't completely right though. I guess I'll head forward but try to look towards the firms working in propulsion and design instead.

edit: I also missed your point about advancement. More than one person here has gone on past 75.

Isentropy fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jan 31, 2015

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

peter banana posted:

Rockwood AKA loving Guelph is 65 minutes away from Toronto WITHOUT TRAFFIC. That turns into 2-2.5 hours real quick during rush hour.

Every. Day.

Can't put a price on spending literal years of your life in bumper to bumper traffic. After all, who raises kids in the city? Living near downtown is fun when you're a kid and all that but as you grow older and more mature you're going to want to move to the suburbs.

In Halifax you get a lot of people who live 40-50 minutes away from the city in places that really shouldn't have been amalgamated (hey, why are there actual gold mines, christmas tree farms, and lobstering operations in my city boundaries?) who whine about how the city isn't doing enough to help with their commute and how those pesky bike lanes are taking away from real Canadians who pay taxes.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

etalian posted:

it's basically a stealth country/culture that actively avoid building any type of reputation.

I'd say stealth more in the sense of chameleons or something.

Cities (except Montreal, the best city) try to pretend they're New York, London, or LA and they all want to be "world class". Sometimes it's realistic, sometimes Halifax says they want to host the Olympics.

Rural areas claim to be "real Canadian" or what have you when, really, could you tell the difference between upstate New York and rural Ontario? Farming, fishing, and forestry aren't exclusively Canadian things you know.

ne: None of this is necessarily a bad thing. I'd bet there's not a hell of a lot of a difference between, say, French Belgium and the nearby parts of France.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Kalenn Istarion posted:

Yes, clearly the guy welding oil pipeline pieces together is a shameful human being because

Exactly. I try to think of the little guy all the time. For example, I smoke cigarettes and encourage my friends and family to smoke cigarettes as well, regardless of age. Obviously the farmers picking tobacco aren't bad people and deserve our economic support.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Rime posted:

I was taking a whole lot of poo poo three years ago when I started pointing out that STEM majors were being deliberately stacked with graduates to drive down wages in those fields by vastly increasing the competition.

Now that the friends who didn't believe me have graduated, and spent 8-12+ months struggling to find their fabled engineering gig that pays more than minimum wage, they've grudgingly started to admit that I was correct and the system is hosed. Unpaid internships for software and structural engineers alike, LMFAO.

Dalhousie has been packing them into local movie theatres and Human Sexuality 101-style auditoriums. Design project work space and funding is shrinking rapidly every year. Full speed fuckin' ahead!

There's this misguided sensibility among a certain breed of STEM major that they're better than everyone else because they study math while everyone else studies useless poo poo like feminism and identity politics (not always men - some women who are rich enough believe this poo poo too). I don't have any real problems seeing those guys suffer, but it's gonna start sucking for us on the whole.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Franks Happy Place posted:

Anecdotally, I'm hearing lots of reports that our union members are returning to B.C. from Alberta in droves. I suspect the same will be true for the Ontario and Newfoundland locals, so I expect it start showing up in unemployment figures shortly.

And don't forget Nova Scotia. This plus the EI crackdown is gonna have a serious effect on our economy. I'm glad I work in a sector that isn't affected by the oil price, and if anything benefits from it - but the local job market is going to get rocked soon I feel. Too many people went out west with minimal education and got jobs and when they all flood back at the same time...

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010


It's funny because, at least in Nova Scotia, this is another industry that receives huge handouts from the government, usually in the form of "training programs", all so the businesses get to pay less than minimum wage and have the government foot the bill. Except because it's tourism, you can just keep hiring "trainees" over and over and over again. Same thing in the service industry. I even know of an engineer that ended up used in this way and who probably turned down offers out west during the oil boom.

So the film industry subsidy's best argument for it is that it might help support our other heavily subsidized industries. Got it.

Anyone have any word on whether the rest of Laurel Broten's tax recommendations (cut all the tax benefits, eliminate the top tax bracket (which her and her husband are in), and hike the middle class tax) are gonna be used too? Because they'll be a pretty big factor in some decisions I have to make coming up.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Lexicon posted:

I don't understand why there's not widespread outrage over this subsidy nonsense.

Because all subsidies are bad save for the specific ones that affect my riding/region.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Cultural Imperial posted:

LITERALLY no one gives a poo poo about this RECOVERY of oil prices because of this thing called volatility you retards.



https://twitter.com/SBarlow_ROB/status/585166195361456128

LITERALLY now would be a good moment for you idiots to take some time to google 'contango' and pause and reflect upon this implication for oil prices.

Oh yeah btw, if you think Yemen is going to make oil prices go back up to $100 consider for a moment that the loving saudis have the 4th largest military in the world, consisting of some really new poo poo that the americans. If you think a bunch of country bumpkins with AKs and toyota hiluxes are going to seriously disrupt oil prices i recommend you hedge your oil futures pocket money and invest in condos in the best place on earth

Just a little note: the people who they're fighting, the Houthis, are Shia (so allegedly funded by Iran) and have been doing this insurgency thing almost since the 1970s. In fact, they're one of the reasons Egypt ended up on the pro-US side: years of fighting there made them broke.

Also, the Saudi military isn't known for being the most professional in the world. Consider their original operation into Yemen, which they called "Scorched Earth". American weapons don't come with American training and American tactics (and an American command structure/officer corps).

To bring it back to the thread though, there's no way this, or anything short of world war, brings oil close to $100 in the near future. The Saudi plan to stop the expansion of shale gas/alternative sources seems to have worked really well.

Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Cultural Imperial posted:

So Regina, Ottawa and Winnipeg housing markets are cratering. lol

Where can I watch the Nova Scotian housing market crumble in real time? Please note that the only well paying jobs in Halifax are in some way government related (military contractors, the military, or healthcare/education).

e: and yes, I said Halifax, because the only economy outside of Halifax in Nova Scotia is one-horse company towns like Waterville and New Glasgow

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Isentropy
Dec 12, 2010

Ccs posted:

One of the representatives, a former actress-turned-politician, was especially furious at the cut. And I was like 'yeah, this person gets it'. And then a little later she spent nearly 20 minutes talking about how she was a struggling actress in Toronto and how she met a man who did female movie-star impersonations and how he studied with some great actresses in Hollywood and how he complimented her Marilyn Monroe impersonation and I was like "oh, yeah, this is why people are annoyed at the entertainment industry. This person should probably not hold political office."

Lenore Zann?

That sounds dumb, but please remember we once elected a 34-year old fiddle player and gym teacher as Premier of Nova Scotia. We also elected a guy who took a selfie with a blackface caricature (and then his party tweeted it from their official account).

Maybe no one here is qualified to hold political office.

Isentropy fucked around with this message at 03:25 on Apr 10, 2015

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