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Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
Since this thread came back from the dead again, Inga Copeland from Hype Williams has a free mixtape up right now:
http://soundcloud.com/cplnd/sets/inga-copeland-higher-powers-1/

I like it a lot better than her solo ep from earlier this year.

Quantum of Phallus posted:

Instrumental Tourist could never live up to my insane expectations. I should give it another listen someday. But the idea of OPN and Hecker jamming was too much for me.

I was disappointed with it at first as well, but then I listened to it on a long walk through the snow at night and it began to work for me. So maybe try that?

I think that album peaks too early with Intrusions, though.

Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 17:59 on Jun 18, 2013

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MIDWIFE CRISIS
Nov 5, 2008

Ta gueule, laisse-moi finir.

Swear to god, this is maybe the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. Am I hosed if I want to buy the album? I can't find it anywhere.

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

Europe-only, 50 copy release. Good luck!

Boomkat has a good selection of JF, unfortunately not this one. mp3s are pretty much the only option here.

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

New OPN record, out on Warp - R PLUS SEVEN

https://bleep.com/release/44656-oneohtrix-point-never-r-plus-seven

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

Awesome! His site is now streaming a loop from the album:
http://pointnever.com/

EDIT- And if you click on the album art you hear a different loop, then a third one for the back of the album. It all sounds like a continuation of Replica's sound.

Lord Krangdar fucked around with this message at 17:54 on Jun 19, 2013

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

the second sneak peek is hilarious. this is going to be a ridiculously abrupt sample-fest. "Sample Gamelan"

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

Admiral Goodenough posted:

Swear to god, this is maybe the most beautiful thing I've ever heard. Am I hosed if I want to buy the album? I can't find it anywhere.

Discovering that choral loop was pretty much James' big brian eno art moment, I don't know if he'll ever top it. Sushi was cool tho.

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

James Ferraro has more amazing moments than you can shake a stick at, that's the beauty of his work. The highs are dizzyingly next level, the lows are really drat low. A price I gladly pay rather than the alternative

sadfly
Jan 27, 2011

So I've been doing a lot of online shopping recently...



o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

Amazing! What are the three in the last image? I think the second one is a Spencer Clark jam?

acephalousuniverse
Nov 4, 2012
The middle one in the last image is the excellent "Bamboo For Two" by Spencer Clark's Monopoly Child Star Searchers, one of my favorite albums from the Skaters dudes.

I think the first one is 1992 Cool Runnings by Lambourghini Crystal?

sadfly
Jan 27, 2011

acephalousuniverse posted:

I think the first one is 1992 Cool Runnings by Lambourghini Crystal?

Yup, however it was released on vinyl as Live at Slimer Beach by Grippers Nother Onesers. The one on the right is Interstitial Luxor by Egyptian Sports Network, which is the latest Spencer Clark/Matthew Mondanile project I've really been diggin these days. Super exotic and probably his most "digital" sounding release so far.

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

Just checked out ESN, it's very cool, like bizarro opening TV news themes

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

oiseaux morts 1994 posted:

Just checked out ESN, it's very cool, like bizarro opening TV news themes

Do either of you have any info on that album? Google is not being very helpful when I try to search for it.

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

I checked it out here:

http://boomkat.com/downloads/714632-egyptian-sports-network-interstitial-luxor

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

oiseaux morts 1994 posted:

James Ferraro has more amazing moments than you can shake a stick at, that's the beauty of his work. The highs are dizzyingly next level, the lows are really drat low. A price I gladly pay rather than the alternative

I will definitely say that I prefer his "Runaway" to kanye wests 10000x:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3W3ScsaHC8

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

Ok.... I guess....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iAcIm-rxgj4

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

It's going to be his masterwork and rule so hard, he's getting so much more explicit with his message and I love it.

quote:

This world is dark

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

It's an album rather than a mixtape so I'm expecting it to be better than Cold. DARK Millenium

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

3/18/2023: Day of the Dorks
Hey oiseaux, who was that Russian comic artist with a Spanish name you linked to at one point in a different thread?

EDIT: Here's another trailer for NYC, Hell 3 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sC8SAduXY

Mike_V fucked around with this message at 04:09 on Jul 17, 2013

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

http://unomoralez.com/

Transistor Rhythm
Feb 16, 2011

If setting the Sustain Level in the ENV to around 7, you can obtain a howling sound.

Awesome thread, all hail. I didn't think that there were really people around here into stuff like this, so this is extra surprising and exciting.

I love James Ferraro and Spencer Clark going back to the Skaters, and it's just been amazing to watch them each come into their own and find their own niches solo. Clark cannot be overlooked - his Monopoly Child Star Searchers records are loving amazing. "The Garnet Toucan" is flawless - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mWtyQiXCE8 and is the full realization of the "destroyed Tiki exotica new age air freshener" thing that he's been working toward since the Skaters. He's much more monomaniacal than Ferraro, which makes him a bit easier to keep tabs on and embrace, whereas I feel like Ferraro is constantly loving with me/everyone, which attracts and repels me in equal measure (but always keeps me coming back like a well-fed squirrel, if one that gets pelted with BB's every time he comes around).

Though the may not be THE primary reference here, I think that Excepter were essentially the Ur-group for a lot of this aesthetic. In an era where 98% of American noise music was harsh Wolf Eyes-type stuff, they were the first to break out by loving around with destroyed dance music, dub signifiers, "eighties" VHS trash vibes, and so on. I remember when the "Rock stepper" video came out - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Mb_7-F7og - many noise kids having actual crises of conscience about whether or not to even embrace it. Fast-forward five years and all of those same kids had switched to casios and karaoke machines themselves.

Because I've been around marginal music forever (I feel like Danny Glover in Lethal Weapon 2 - "Christ, I'm too old for this poo poo" [more on that in a minute]), I can't help but look at all of this, from Ferraro/Clark to Emeralds to Lopatin to the Ducktails guys to etc., as part of an ongoing noise music irony arms race. If noise has always delighted in and often been defined by contempt for the larger acceptable musical culture, this trend toward embracing eighties/nineties "clean trash" like mall new age music, the most embarrassing vestiges of first-generation dotcom and home computing culture, etc. just becomes the latest level of the irony onion to be peeled back to create that delighted seasick feeling in listeners. Especially because I grew up around that stuff in very formative years in the eighties and early nineties, this trend is extra awesome and affecting for me and I loving LOVE where much of it has gone. I mean, if you already blew through all of the Throbbing Gristle, Merzbow, Hafler Trio, etc. stuff you could stomach in the nineties, "harsh" weird music just sort of rubs up against old scabs but "Far Side Virtual" is PURE VISCERAL TERROR and gut-busting hilarity in equal measures.

The entire "Vaporwave" thing is less convincing; I think it's much more similar to the entire "hauntology" (cue retching sounds, but we need a vocab to talk about this stuff with) movement and aesthetic, which has a pretty clear line from BoC to Broadcast to Ghost Box Records and beyond. I think of a lot of that stuff as Americans trying to work through their own queasy/cozy cultural memories, which tend to be more Burger King Kids Klub VHS pizza trash than "Dark and Lonely Water" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vb00H6mCTM8, which means that it turns into another aesthetic thing on output entirely while sharing a similar sensibility. While Ferraro, Ariel Pink, the Ghost Box artists, BoC, the entire "Outrun music" genre, etc. are all doing a similar shared cultural detritus memory mining, Vaporwave seems to be its own practice that's engaging in a similar behavior rather than a direct descendent of any of those people.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Mike_V posted:

Here's another trailer for NYC, Hell 3 AM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_sC8SAduXY

Incredible, can't wait for the album.

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

Great post Transistor although I would argue that the best artists from this loose genre are almost always being sincere and not ironic, definitely celebratory. James Ferraro especially so. The turd tier vaporwave that has come in its wake is painfully ironic and disingenuous, which is why it lacks any real value.

http://m.soundcloud.com/hipposintanks/eternal-condition-stuck-2

Jf vox is still something I'm try a come to terms with

o.m. 94 fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jul 18, 2013

Mike_V
Jul 31, 2004

3/18/2023: Day of the Dorks
I really like the production, but I still don't think JF is hitting the right buttons with his vocals. He needs to do something more with them if he's going to properly invoke an R&B aesthetic.

dead56k
Sep 23, 2009

the seduction of america's youth

Transistor Rhythm posted:

Though the may not be THE primary reference here, I think that Excepter were essentially the Ur-group for a lot of this aesthetic.

in some regards, they do have a similar vibe to this ferraro type stuff coming out now.

unlike wolf eyes and some of their contemporaries, i've had a harder time really finding stuff of Exceptor that i re-listen to. the drone stuff is interesting but didnt seem too mind-blowing. I have enjoyed and re-visited the "Presidence" live album most of any Exceptor material, but it seems more like Throbbing Gristle worship every time.

Transistor Rhythm
Feb 16, 2011

If setting the Sustain Level in the ENV to around 7, you can obtain a howling sound.

I think there was definitely a lot of TG influence, especially earlier on. I think "Alternation" and "Sunbomber" is where they really picked up, as they had switched over almost exclusively to doing damaged dub with a lot of great, classic gear used improperly. The live stuff they were doing at that time, some collected on "Streams," all followed that and I was way into it.

Basically, everything in this mode:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10XANtu6qJQ

sea of losers
Jun 6, 2007

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I'm glad to see this thread is still going. does anyone get these sort of reappropriated/nostalgic ambience vibes out of 1991? in some tracks, high-tech high-life is seriously what I thought the future would sound like when I was six, like this track:
http://opaltapes.bandcamp.com/track/high-tech-slow-life

or this one
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cCm7Om7hWs0

sea of losers fucked around with this message at 17:15 on Jul 20, 2013

slowdave
Jun 18, 2008

1991 is a singular talent. I love his self titled album to bits and High-Life is formidable too.

https://soundcloud.com/amdiscs/0verture-sand-circles <-- here's a really good Sand Circles remix he did

On a related note, I can't seemingly make a post in these forums without including Opal Tapes somehow, but that's a label everyone should check out. Yeah they put out High-Tech High Life and also the MXMCMCI tape which is the 1991 dude doing sweet, gritty Bunker Records style techno. There's a bunch of great small labels putting out scuzzy, leftfield electronic music nowadays (Like Left Blank, Astro:dynamics), but OT have been the ones getting the most hype recently.

the black husserl
Feb 25, 2005

Mike_V posted:

I really like the production, but I still don't think JF is hitting the right buttons with his vocals. He needs to do something more with them if he's going to properly invoke an R&B aesthetic.

They're perfect he sounds like a hong kong teenager trying to imitate drake/bruno mars or something.

Aerobic Robot
Dec 11, 2007

ASK ME HOW I HAVE CRYING MELTDOWNS ABOUT BEING A GAY FURRY. PS, I'M 16 YEARS OLD
This thread makes me happy on a purely spiritual/PSYCHOlogical level, but I think a subsection of this musical scene that deserves waaaaay more attention is the strange Amazonian Alien Conspirator Crystal Palace Denizens (dont actually call them that) that circle around the pivotal members like Spencer Clark, James Ferraro, and Dolphins Into The Future. Theres something enchanting about the UFO obsession and love for the Maui Tourist aesthetic that defines these artists and im gonna nerd out about them for a lil bit.

Spencer Clark is most known for being the second half of The Skaters, a frantic, meditational noise group. After the band pretty much split, and started to release solo stuff, you could really see the parts the contribute to the whole of The Skaters. James Ferraro's hi-tek cyber-industrial pounding rhythms are distinct from Spencer Clark's tropical den music, but both are easily representative of The Skaters' output.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FStUTZGN0Q

On the softer side, Dolphins Into The Future offer something more akin to field recordings and incidental music, but still carry the same "mission" (note: i dont think these guys are really TRYING for any style, i just mean mission as in general theme/mood). A big difference is a loss of structure/rhythm. Most of his work consists of very simple synths arpeggiating over recordings of water bodies/junglescapes. It's more representative of an outsider's look into the areas embodying the inspiration for this aesthetic, rather than a direct output that utilizes this aesthetic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SH5wuIGjJuI

Also tangentially related is Orphan Fairytale, a girl from Belgium (??? the netherlands??? somewhere with windmills probably) who makes music that takes on themes more related to forests rather than jungles, and the mythological creatures associated with them. She's collaborated a lot with the previous artists though, as her music still fits nicely with the general ideas given by the other artists' music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJLouDgD_0Y

oh yeah and also about that aliens thing, Fourth World Magazine is just Spencer Clark, but the one album he's put out under the name is loving phenomenal (get it cuz its really good but also because it's about alien phenomenons.) Check It Out

sorry about all the vidlinks

Gamma Nerd
May 14, 2012

Aerobic Robot posted:

oh yeah and also about that aliens thing, Fourth World Magazine is just Spencer Clark, but the one album he's put out under the name is loving phenomenal (get it cuz its really good but also because it's about alien phenomenons.) Check It Out

sorry about all the vidlinks

drat I didn't expect to hear that name around here. I read about that guy in the Stranger, he has some really cool drone type stuff in that EP.

Gamma Nerd fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jul 22, 2013

slowdave
Jun 18, 2008

No keia la, no keia oo, a mau loa

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PboMRog86J0

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

http://boomkat.com/cds/748992-henry-plotnick-fields

quote:

Remarkable, sparkling minimalist composition by 11 year old Henry Plotnick. Falls somewhere between Terry Riley's 'In C' and James Ferraro's 'Far Side Virtual'** "Initial contact with Fields may lead one to believe it’s the work of an A+ grad student at one of America’s finest music colleges. On discovering the album’s creator won’t be able to legally drink for another decade, one might wince at the thought of one’s own paltry 11-year-old feats—even if those armpit farts were pretty inspired. Meanwhile, Henry Plotnick sounds like he’s ready for the concert hall. The structural and dynamic sophistication at play in Fields—the way melodic beauty gyres within rigorous academic / minimalist strictures, the manner in which perilous, mordant atmospheres are conjured—are astounding for any musician, age be damned. Seemingly under the spell of Terry Riley’s mesmerizing classic In C, Plotnick engineers ingenious strategies for mental liftoff. It’s as if he’s absorbed the principles and techniques of the 20th-century American minimalist-composer pantheon and injected them with a zeal for greater instrumental complexity and melodic flamboyancy. The two longest tracks on Fields take the listener highest, suggesting that Plotnick is more of a marathon-runner than a sprinter. Just as those who observed LeBron James on the court as a high-school sophomore could predict his NBA superstardom, anyone who hears Fields will be stirred to imagine future concert-goers rendered agog by Plotnick’s phenomenal prowess. Get in on the ground floor of what promises to be a skyscraper of rarefied sonic inventiveness."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3Fe3LiFK7o

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
I want to know who writes all those Boomkat descriptions, like is it a single person doing all of them or do they have some kind of style manual that makes it seem that way? They're usually both hilariously over-the-top but somehow winningly genuine in their passion for all kinds of music.

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.
Here's a newly released song from Ferraro's upcoming album (no singing in this one):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eR7W8AunZ_s

o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

Awesome, I love it. Proper sadness ("ATM, Sex Tape, Prozac, Hair Gel, Warm Bodies, Face Lift, Celebrities, AT&T, 100% Pure Hydration, Plastic Breast, EARTH JUMP Ringtone, Toyota, Airbags, POWER POWER POWER"). The record is coming off way more ambient than recent releases, which is the James Ferraro mode I do most enjoy.

OPN put out a full track off R Plus Seven. Sheer hyper-reality to the point of seasickness.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvDzaQOSZ3E

Lord Krangdar posted:

I want to know who writes all those Boomkat descriptions, like is it a single person doing all of them or do they have some kind of style manual that makes it seem that way? They're usually both hilariously over-the-top but somehow winningly genuine in their passion for all kinds of music.

They're interesting, because of the necessity to sell the music rather than critique it, yet they always find something meaningful to say.

o.m. 94 fucked around with this message at 11:25 on Aug 8, 2013

Lord Krangdar
Oct 24, 2007

These are the secrets of death we teach.

oiseaux morts 1994 posted:

OPN put out a full track off R Plus Seven. Sheer hyper-reality to the point of seasickness.

I really like this song, and the video, but I don't know if I want a whole album of this from him. Hopefully this is like the "Child Soldier" of the new album.

quote:

They're interesting, because of the necessity to sell the music rather than critique it, yet they always find something meaningful to say.

Yeah, exactly.

Automata 10 Pack
Jun 21, 2007

Ten games published by Automata, on one cassette
Oh god, this is the greatest thread of 2013. How didn't I see it sooner? I've fallen into a, well, whatever you call this hole in terms of music. I've been listening to Far Side Virtual and Vektroid for a while now, but I never dug back in James Ferraro's catalog to discover that he's been crafting so many of these weird sonic worlds. Now I'm hyped as hell for NYC, Hell 3:00 AM.

So uh, I guess I should contribute something since this thread's given me so much (Night Dolls, jesus christ!) Have any of you heard of Co La's Moody Coup?

It's very much like the Vektroid/Macintosh Plus style of Vaporwave with pitched vocals and elements of Jazz, with synth and sampling that's a lot like James Ferraro's more recent works. But it's wrapped around a dub framework. It sounds like an album that exists in the same world that Far Side Virtual or Floral Shoppe exists, but from a different part of that world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cm6lFAYjw7Y

(Spotify Links because Youtube doesn't have them)

Suspicious: http://open.spotify.com/track/6f7IvnQU2I4RrQzkQmL5Sb

Sukiyaki to Die For: http://open.spotify.com/track/3YiDNTPHb5Jc8Yyw4HjW32

Automata 10 Pack fucked around with this message at 01:10 on Aug 10, 2013

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o.m. 94
Nov 23, 2009

That's loving nuts, the aquatic rainforest canopy poo poo is totally JF from his Primavera Sound recording. Ultra-clear samples wrought with vocals. Hell yes.

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