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jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?
YUMMY!


Soiled Meat



So just what is Super Sentai?

Super refers to the gadgets and giant robots, and Sentai translates to "task force" or "fighting squadron". A group of people come together to fight evil, and are given powers that are either magical or technological in nature, which allow them to transform into colorful themed heroes.

The show uses "Monster of the Week" setup. Outside of the occasional two-parter and season-ender, each episode has the Big Bad sending a different rubber-suited monster to terrorize the city/enslave the populace/whatever. The Sentai show up to save the day by transforming and fighting their way through a bunch of generic footsoldiers before taking out the Monster-of-the-Week. Then the monster becomes skyscraper sized, and the Sentai will have to summon their mecha to take it down for good.

And what about Power Rangers?
Power Rangers is the American version of Super Sentai. The action scenes (when everyone is transformed and fighting the monsters) are dubbed, and new scenes with American actors are filmed for the suitless parts. Some seasons adapt the Sentai plotline pretty faithfully, while others go their own direction with it. One general rule of thumb is that Power Rangers tends to take itself a bit more seriously than Sentai. The Sentai shows are generally not full on comedy, but you can tell everyone is aware that its a fun show for kids and families, whereas in Power Rangers, the general vibe is a bit more serious. However, the attempted seriousness can make the Power Rangers come off as silly or over-acting.

Current Shows

In Japan, the current show is Uchu Sentai Kyuranger



A team of NINE space-faring rangers. Some of the members are humans, others are aliens or robots. First female green on a core team (we had a movie-exclusive lady-green a couple season back), first core-team Orange since Battle Fever (although Orange has popped up as a 6th and Extra Ranger in very recent memory). Show hasn't actually premiered yet, so I can't speak to its quality.

The current American show is Power Rangers Ninja Steel (an adaptation of Shuriken Sentai Ninninger, with a villain costume lifted from ToQger)



Goon-response has been positive so far, and really...after how tepid Ninninger was anything is likely an improvement!

Why has this series gone on so long and been so successful?

Well, Power Rangers has been going on so long because its a pretty cheap show to make. Half the show just needs dubbing work, and the unsuited portions are generally not very action heavy. It also moves a lot of merch, between masks, morphers, toy Zords, etc.

Sentai is at its heart a morality tale of standing up for what's right and fighting against evil. It makes a great children's show, and generally isn't too irksome for parents to watch with their kids.

As a kid I was a huge fan of Power Rangers, and lately I've been going back and watching fansubs of Super Sentai. I felt that it would be nice to have a thread here on SA to discuss these shows, so let's have some fun and talk about guys in spandex beating up rubber monsters!

There is a tokusatsu thread over on the Anime board that covers other similar shows like Kamen Rider, if you're looking for that sort of thing.

jivjov fucked around with this message at Feb 9, 2017 around 00:32

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AmiYumi
Oct 10, 2005
If wishes were horses, we'd all be eatin' steak.

Isn't the second season of Akibaranger supposed to be starting, too?

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

BITCOIN BATMAN

Is this that season where they can turn into any Power Ranger from the past or summon other Rangers or whatever? Because the two gifs I saw of that hit my nostalgia buttons pretty hard.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?
YUMMY!


Soiled Meat

LividLiquid posted:

Is this that season where they can turn into any Power Ranger from the past or summon other Rangers or whatever? Because the two gifs I saw of that hit my nostalgia buttons pretty hard.

That would be Gokaiger. Akibaranger is a parody series aimed at adults in which all the Sentai shows are just that, TV shows. I haven't had the time to watch it yet, but it's apparently quite good.

Gokaiger, the one where they can use the powers of all 34 past Sentai teams is pretty fantastic, I just finished watching it yesterday.

gyrobot
Nov 16, 2011

BAD BOY OF THE ANIME CLUB

A fun fact about Koryuranger is that like Zyu and Abare, all of them debuted in the 3rd year of every decade.

LividLiquid
Apr 13, 2002

BITCOIN BATMAN

jivjov posted:

That would be Gokaiger.
I meant the Power Rangers season, not the Sentai season.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?
YUMMY!


Soiled Meat

LividLiquid posted:

I meant the Power Rangers season, not the Sentai season.

Currently Megaforce is just using Goseiger footage. Gosei's little command center has Ranger Keys spread out around it, but no word yet on if they'll be used or not. We know that Gokaiger footage is going to be used in Megaforce Season 2 (Super Megaforce), and Troy (Megaforce Red) keeps having dreams about the Great Legend War and past Rangers.

RMZXAnarchy
Sep 9, 2011

*Insert Sailor Jupiter joke here*

gyrobot posted:

A fun fact about Koryuranger is that like Zyu and Abare, all of them debuted in the 3rd year of every decade.

Zyuranger was in 1992, not 1993.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?
YUMMY!


Soiled Meat

RMZXAnarchy posted:

Zyuranger was in 1992, not 1993.

It ran February-to-February, so it spent a couple months in '93.

Mecca-Benghazi
Mar 31, 2012



You might want a link to the tokusatsu thread in ADTRW, which covers the same stuff on the Japanese side, plus Kamen Rider and the like.

I'd have to say my favorite ranger series was RPM, the one set in a post-apocalyptic setting. It was self aware and the plot wasn't completely stupid.

I also need to watch Gokaiger, since it's supposed to be a love letter to One Piece and that sounds hilarious.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?
YUMMY!


Soiled Meat

Autumncomet posted:

You might want a link to the tokusatsu thread in ADTRW, which covers the same stuff on the Japanese side, plus Kamen Rider and the like.

Crap...I didn't even realize that thread existed...I was looking for just a Power Rangers/Sentai title, and didn't even consider we'd have a full-on Tokusatsu thread...

Well, I'll add a link in the OP, and if this thread dies a slow death, it'll be no more than I deserve.

EDIT: Ah, and thanks for the shoutout over there!

jivjov fucked around with this message at Feb 26, 2013 around 06:25

JT Smiley
Mar 3, 2006
Thats whats up!

Autumncomet posted:

I'd have to say my favorite ranger series was RPM, the one set in a post-apocalyptic setting. It was self aware and the plot wasn't completely stupid.

I also need to watch Gokaiger, since it's supposed to be a love letter to One Piece and that sounds hilarious.

RPM is seriously amazing, it's like the writers knew the show was getting canned so they just gave it all they had. Case in point : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVrTsryg_CM

Gokaiger is a love letter to the entire history of Super Sentai. The only thing it has in common with Once Piece is that it's based around a group of pirates.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


Megaforce seems to think that kids are retarded. In the episode before last, Noah's whole confidence problem was solved in a whopping four minutes. Compare to MMPR where the Problem of The Day would arise right away at the start of the episode and Rita would send a loosely related monster, fighting/extrapolation in the second act, then resolution in the third, moral of the day, Bulk and Skull get owned somehow, roll credits.

I yearn for the glory days of In Space and Lost Galaxy again. Apparently the threat of cancellation really gets a writer's poo poo together.

JT Smiley
Mar 3, 2006
Thats whats up!

I didn't understand how Noah believing in himself allowed him to lift that axe despite not being able to do it literally two seconds earlier. Still the moral of the day wasn't as bad as this week's episode, where we learn that it takes years of special training to become a ranger. Even though the current team are just five kids picked almost at random with no real training to speak of.

Also Megaforce red is just a real doll that got brought to life somehow.

Black Feather
Apr 14, 2012


JT Smiley posted:

RPM is seriously amazing, it's like the writers knew the show was getting canned so they just gave it all they had. Case in point : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVrTsryg_CM
Is this really in the show? I've been watching a few RPM episodes since it airs around the time I sit down to have lunch, but now I think I need to get a hold of the whole series.

Zaggitz
Jun 18, 2009

My urges are becoming...

UNCONTROLLABLE

Ima be real sad if Tommy doesn't come back again for the next Dino themed Ranger show in a few years.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Zaggitz posted:

Ima be real sad if Tommy doesn't come back again for the next Dino themed Ranger show in a few years.

The world needs a Tommy to dance the Samba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBw17MvTags

Dr Tran
Dec 17, 2002

HE'S GOT A PH.D. IN
KICKING YOUR ASS!


JT Smiley posted:

I didn't understand how Noah believing in himself allowed him to lift that axe despite not being able to do it literally two seconds earlier. Still the moral of the day wasn't as bad as this week's episode, where we learn that it takes years of special training to become a ranger. Even though the current team are just five kids picked almost at random with no real training to speak of.

Also Megaforce red is just a real doll that got brought to life somehow.

The moral of the day in that Noah episode is that it is okay to bring weapons to school.

I also believe Red is a robot.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?
YUMMY!


Soiled Meat

My current guess is that the guy who was pretending to be the Red Ranger is gonna end up becoming Gosei Knight, or getting to borrow one of the morphers for an episode. They spent a little too much time with him for him to be a one-off, I think.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


Zaggitz posted:

Ima be real sad if Tommy doesn't come back again for the next Dino themed Ranger show in a few years.

A little while before Megaforce started, a LOT of his facebook fans were rallying for Saban to give him a cameo when they get to the Gokaiger season, or possibly even make him GokaiSilver. Personally, I'd probably poo poo a brick if he became GokaiSilver.

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

Do we have a picture of Paul McCartney?


I'd like Tommy better as Basco, if they included him in the series. Go back to his original evil Green Ranger roots (with redemption, of course).

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?
YUMMY!


Soiled Meat

If Jason David Frank shows up in any capacity I'll be happy. I'm just glad the guy is super chill about being the #1 fan favorite Power Ranger.

boom boom boom
Jun 28, 2012

by Shine


AmiYumi posted:

Isn't the second season of Akibaranger supposed to be starting, too?

Yeah, that really needs to be in the OP

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010


This is going to be the nerdiest post I've ever made and I fully expect it to end up in goons.txt, but whatever.

Anyone who wants to get into Sentai should check out this YouTube channel, which has eight completed subbed series. Unfortunately, all but one of them is from TV-Nihon, whose subs are basically

but unironically.
However, that shouldn't stop you from watching Samurai Sentai Shinkenger, which, in addition to having awesome choreography, has possibly the greatest Red of all time, both in terms of competency and being extremely compelling as a character.
Someone mentioned how Megaforce treats children as idiots. The same was true of Samurai, the previous season and Shinkenger's adaptation. Not content to water down some of the more intense plot elements (two extreme examples that aren't major spoilers are that a child jumping off a roof was changed to him throwing away his baseball equipment, and a monster's plan to kill a dozen schoolgirls with an axe was changed to stealing toys), it also extensively white-washed the more Japanese elements of the series, from understandable things like changing Blue's past as a kabuki performer to him once being a competitive swimmer, to much more ridiculous things like changing the Sixth Ranger from a sushi seller to a grilled fish salesman. Also, no one shuts up for more than two seconds during a fight scene, because apparently kids will change the channel unless someone is talking at all times. This tends to ruin the more dramatic fights from the Sentai.
Shinkenger isn't perfect, it hits about a 10-episode slump after the halfway point, and there's a few episodes in particular that are just lazily resolved by introducing a new toy, but the last 10 episodes are absolutely fantastic and make it absolutely clear that this is one of the years in Sentai where they wanted to tell a genuinely engaging story with characters you could care about in addition to being a toy commercial.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Also TV-Nihon subs will often not have the note telling you what the Japanese means.

RBX
Jan 2, 2011



https://www.facebook.com/media/set/...93553990&type=3

That's another link to watch some series.

Gokaiger was the first series I watched with no prior sentai knowledge and it was awesome. Everything from the story to the fights was very good and high quality. One episode in particular had a very special villain and due to translation differences I called him a name that made the thing even funnier. If you only watch one sentai let it be Gokaiger.

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010


RBX posted:

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/...93553990&type=3

That's another link to watch some series.

Gokaiger was the first series I watched with no prior sentai knowledge and it was awesome. Everything from the story to the fights was very good and high quality. One episode in particular had a very special villain and due to translation differences I called him a name that made the thing even funnier. If you only watch one sentai let it be Gokaiger.
Actually, it spoils the ending twists of both Shinkenger and Jetman, so watch those first.

jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?
YUMMY!


Soiled Meat

boom boom boom posted:

Yeah, that really needs to be in the OP



Done and done. Thanks for pointing that out.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

Actually, it spoils the ending twists of both Shinkenger and Jetman, so watch those first.

Either that or don't, saying you need to watch a hundred other episodes before watching the series is a little ridiculous. Especially in Shinkenger's case because you are likely to not understand or forget what exactly is brought up before going back to watch it after Gokaiger anyway. Not only that but in the time it would take to get through them someone's likely to have already spoiled the twists anyways in this thread or in discussion at the place you download from or wherever.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


I think it should also be pointed out that Akibaranger is actually geared for adult fans, so there's often quite a few dirty jokes (The main villainess in the first season is a former porn star) and references made to old sentai tropes.

RBX
Jan 2, 2011



Yeah watching Samurai spoils elements of Shikenger and the Jetman thing I didn't understand except for the obvious and it got me interested to watch both series because the characters were great. Not to mention you can just ignore both and enjoy the series itself.

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010


Cliff Racer posted:

Either that or don't, saying you need to watch a hundred other episodes before watching the series is a little ridiculous. Especially in Shinkenger's case because you are likely to not understand or forget what exactly is brought up before going back to watch it after Gokaiger anyway. Not only that but in the time it would take to get through them someone's likely to have already spoiled the twists anyways in this thread or in discussion at the place you download from or wherever.
In that case, I'd recommend watching Shinkenger before Gokaiger simply because it's the better series.

Cliff Racer
Mar 24, 2007

by Lowtax


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

In that case, I'd recommend watching Shinkenger before Gokaiger simply because it's the better series.

True, but I think people should be able to just choose their first series on their own just based on which looks or themes seem appealing to them. After that sure, direct them away from the (comparative) stinkers.

404GoonNotFound
Aug 6, 2006

The McRib is back!?!?


Tae posted:

The world needs a Tommy to dance the Samba

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBw17MvTags

Goddammit, Toei is way too trigger happy about taking these things down.

SpiderHyphenMan
Mar 31, 2010


This is all you need to know about Kyoryuger

Pinwiz11
Jan 26, 2009

Do we have a picture of Paul McCartney?


SpiderHyphenMan posted:

In that case, I'd recommend watching Shinkenger before Gokaiger simply because it's the better series.


Cliff Racer posted:

True, but I think people should be able to just choose their first series on their own just based on which looks or themes seem appealing to them. After that sure, direct them away from the (comparative) stinkers.

Shinkenger is definitely the better story, but I was way more attached to the characters in Gokaiger. I really need to go back and rewatch Shinkenger at some point, hopefully O-T will continue sending out new episodes from time to time.

And the real answer is you should watch the Season One of Akibaranger first.

e: I'm so glad there's a PR/Sentai thread in TVIV again. I still miss that one goon's attempt to watch an episode of PR a day through the entire run.

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JT Smiley
Mar 3, 2006
Thats whats up!

Shinkenger is the only Sentai I've ever gotten my girlfriend to watch with me from beginning to end which is a miracle in and of its self. Everything just comes together perfectly, the story, the characters, the action, it's all just so well done. I probably wouldn't hate Samurai so much if it hadn't taken pure gold and turned it to poo poo.

Gokaiger is a series that could have been so much more if the majority of the episodes didn't focus on guest stars and nostalgia. Saying that, it's still one of the best Sentai's in a long time. Not only is each character well developed, it also features possibly the best fighting choreography of any Sentai before or after.

SpazmasterX
Jul 13, 2006

Wrong about everything XIV related
~fartz~


All this talk just reminds me of my incredibly low expectations for the possible English adaptation of GoBusters, so it's impossible to be disappointed by whatever they do.

JT Smiley
Mar 3, 2006
Thats whats up!

I'm actually amazed that Saban managed to take something as bland as Goseiger and water it down even more with Megaforce.

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jivjov
Sep 13, 2007

But how does it taste?
YUMMY!


Soiled Meat

Pinwiz11 posted:

e: I'm so glad there's a PR/Sentai thread in TVIV again. I still miss that one goon's attempt to watch an episode of PR a day through the entire run.

Well I started this thread because I've been doing something even more insane than that...I binged all of Gokaiger in about 2 weeks, I'm watching Megaforce and Kyorunger as they come out, and I'm catching up on Gobusters and Akibaranger.

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