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Look, shape shifting is just a thing that happens when you morph Look at Doggie or Justin for proof
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Lightspeed rescues cast was 
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Sockser posted:That makes sense, I imagine the Zyu ones are sized for a small Asian man and not a svelte American martial artist I believe the Japanese guy who wore it was the same guy who was every leading Kamen Rider for years now. He's like 5'9 but has a big frame (which is funny when leading Riders are these scrawny boy band types.)
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Dec 12, 2017 23:39
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Burkion posted:Look at Doggie or Justin for proof And Shou Lonpou! He even gains a human mouth.
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Ramirez gets a girdle.
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Dec 13, 2017 03:50
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So which seasons was it where the original sentai character was male but the ranger was female? I remember one season where a yellow ranger had a massive bulge in Sentai footage which always made me die from laughter.
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Dec 14, 2017 12:35
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Testekill posted:So which seasons was it where the original sentai character was male but the ranger was female? I remember one season where a yellow ranger had a massive bulge in Sentai footage which always made me die from laughter. First occurrence is actually, well, the first ever season. Zyuranger only had one female on the team, compared to MMPR's two.
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Testekill posted:So which seasons was it where the original sentai character was male but the ranger was female? I remember one season where a yellow ranger had a massive bulge in Sentai footage which always made me die from laughter. Zyuranger(MMPR S1), Gingaman(Lost Galaxy), GoGoV(Lightspeed Rescue), Timeranger(Time Force), and Gaoranger(Wild Force). The last one (it's either him or the one from Timeranger I believe) is especially easy to tell as the suit actor happened to be particularly...well-built in the Sentai
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Dec 14, 2017 13:32
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Larryb posted:Zyuranger(MMPR S1), Gingaman(Lost Galaxy), GoGoV(Lightspeed Rescue), Timeranger(Time Force), and Gaoranger(Wild Force). The last one (it's either him or the one from Timeranger I believe) is especially easy to tell as the suit actor happened to be particularly...well-built in the Sentai IIRC that's why they gave her super strength powers lol. I think that was the first time they bothered trying to explain the gendered costume inconsistencies.
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Dec 14, 2017 14:01
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Fun fact; whenFiguarts put outAmerican MMPR figures, they used the male (no skirt) lower body and a female (has breasts) upper body for Trini's. Clever consistency with both sets of source material.
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Dec 14, 2017 14:19
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I always hate when the Sentai team is made up of five guys and one lone girl on the team.
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Dec 14, 2017 18:34
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Saban knew if he had %40 girl cast he could have %40 girl audience and have a more valuable IP and I wonder why sentai doesn't seem to care.
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Dec 14, 2017 18:54
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Saban knew if he had %40 girl cast he could have %40 girl audience and have a more valuable IP and I wonder why sentai doesn't seem to care. Not much to wonder about Japan is the answer. Like it's super easy to go Lul Sexism Japan but it's actually kind of a huge issue over there. It's slowly getting better sort of but basically Girls have Girl Things and Boys have Boy Things. You get some fun undercurrent gender politics in the original 1954 Godzilla actually which was interesting to see. Like, there's a reason why Japan's answer to Wonder Woman, their most iconic and popular female super hero Is Cutie Honey Who is entirely a fetish thing made to appeal to men and 99% of every joke, scene, plot, or story involving her devolves into She's Sexy. Sailor Moon is the second closest to her in theory, though you have more obscure ones if you'd like they tend to come from straight up comedies though, and whoo boy. It is getting better by and large, sort of, but the old guard still think in really old fashioned ways. See the last Dino Sentai where the STATED REASON for there not being two girls to begin with was because girls aren't strong. But it is getting ever so slightly better. Just, yeah. Different culture, different norms, different markets.
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To me it's like the Fetengi not realizing that they could profit off selling clothes to women
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Dec 14, 2017 19:07
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Al Borland Corp. posted:To me it's like the Fetengi not realizing that they could profit off selling clothes to women It's worse in Kamen Rider. The first non Movie Rider female who didn't die since the franchise started was in Wizard, and that was because she jsut happened to get the closest thing to mass produced powers as there were. Dragon Ball has finally added more than just A Girl that can fight at least. The ratio is still hilariously skewed but you know.
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Well I think GT was ostensibly supposed to be Pan's franchise until they panicked and made it DBZ 2
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Well I think GT was ostensibly supposed to be Pan's franchise until they panicked and made it DBZ 2 Oh they recently did an interview about that Pan was going to be able to become a SSJ, but they decided that'd make her too violent and strong and they needed her to be meek and lady like for Goku to save. I'm not joking you can look this up. This is from one of the main writers.
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Dragon Ball Garbage Trash
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It took til Wizard to not kill off a female rider? Jesus. loving Tackle, cursing the whole franchise.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:It took til Wizard to not kill off a female rider? Jesus. I can and will defend Tackle to my dying breath don't you try me And I should clarify- Female Rider in a series. First female Rider that didn't die in a movie would be Kivala in Decade but she never showed up in the series
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The last three episodes of Teenagers with Attitude was the Masked Rider crossover and pretty hilarious. I think my favorite audio clip from the series is now Tommy saying "Dex, what has happened to your planet, and what are those crystals... on your face?" The end of the part two episode has a speech by Dex intercut with a speech by the same actor in another movie explaining the crisis in some war torn European country.
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Dec 14, 2017 22:09
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Burkion posted:I can and will defend Tackle to my dying breath don't you try me Or ever again in the franchise to my knowledge (even in human form), which is kind of weird to be honest. In fact, pretty much everyone who isn't Decade or Diend just kind of drops off the face of the earth after that movie.
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Also should be noted Wizard is also the only series to have a female Rider that doesn't die at all! To this day! (Respawns still count as dying)
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Burkion posted:Also should be noted Nico didn't die in Ex-Aid (nor did Natsumi but as I said we never see her again after Decade/W so she might as well have). Larryb fucked around with this message at 22:59 on Dec 14, 2017 |
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Dec 14, 2017 22:56
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Larryb posted:Nico didn't die in Ex-Aid (nor did Natsumi but as I said we never see her again after Decade/W so she might as well have). I thought Nico did That'd be my mistake Natsumi only counts for movie Lady Riders, not series
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Dec 14, 2017 23:01
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Larryb posted:Or ever again in the franchise to my knowledge (even in human form), which is kind of weird to be honest. In fact, pretty much everyone who isn't Decade or Diend just kind of drops off the face of the earth after that movie. Narutaki shows up periodically! 
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Narutaki shows up periodically!  This too, is Decade's fault.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Narutaki shows up periodically! Ah right, forgot about him. But to my knowledge neither Natsumi or her grandfather appear in anything following that movie for whatever reason (though if anyone's seen Kiva then you know what happens when normal humans try to use those powers).
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I've watched countless hours of PR and Super Sentai, but I've never been able to sit through more than an episode or two of Kamen Rider.
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Dec 14, 2017 23:24
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JT Smiley posted:I've watched countless hours of PR and Super Sentai, but I've never been able to sit through more than an episode or two of Kamen Rider.
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JT Smiley posted:I've watched countless hours of PR and Super Sentai, but I've never been able to sit through more than an episode or two of Kamen Rider. Which have you tried? Because Kamen Rider has some WILDLY different shows depending on what you want to see If you want super cheese, the original 1971 series is actually kind of amazing even if a solid third of the episodes are pure trash. I've spent the entire year watching every episode with friends once per get together and we're on the final two and it's been a wild goddamn ride.
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One of the things I like about Rider is they tell very different stories, focusing a lot on relationships between more fleshed out characters. Sentai characters are generally more like archetypes to occupy a role within the team's identity. They can be a lot of fun, but they're very broad and don't grow a whole lot. Which is fine, I love sentai for its optimism and brightness. Rider is just fundamentally darker, it's built right into the DNA of the franchise starting with how Ichigou got his powers. And that's another part I like in Rider. The heroes powers are always linked to the villains. Not a separate power built in opposition, but the same thing used for good purposes. That's a different kind of optimism, that nothing is intrinsically evil.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:One of the things I like about Rider is they tell very different stories, focusing a lot on relationships between more fleshed out characters. Sentai characters are generally more like archetypes to occupy a role within the team's identity. They can be a lot of fun, but they're very broad and don't grow a whole lot. Which is fine, I love sentai for its optimism and brightness. Rider is just fundamentally darker, it's built right into the DNA of the franchise starting with how Ichigou got his powers. Fun fact, it's super easy to joke that Shocker really needed to stop making Kamen Riders because they kept going rogue on them... But just taking the original show into account? Ignoring ALL of the other monsters that they made, all of which were exactly the same kind of cyborg monster that Kamen Rider himself is, they made two Riders that went against them due to outside interference- Hongo is saved by a scientist, Ichimonji is saved by Hongo And then they made SIX more Riders who are just straight up evil. Not fake Riders, not monsters pretending to be Riders Just straight up six evil Kamen Riders. The only difference between Hongo and the Shocker Riders was that Hongo fought for justice. Nothing drives that point home clearer than that
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Larryb posted:Ah right, forgot about him. But to my knowledge neither Natsumi or her grandfather appear in anything following that movie for whatever reason (though if anyone's seen Kiva then you know what happens when normal humans try to use those powers). I think she showed up in that Decade vs Gokaiger movie that was really awful in almost every possible way(besides Big Machine that is), but she didn't become Kivala(partially because Kivala herself didn't appear in that movie), honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they had lost or damaged the suit Also considering Natsumi's Grandfather is a version of Dr Shinigami, I really wouldn't be all that surprised if he had somehow made her part Fangire or something
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drrockso20 posted:I think she showed up in that Decade vs Gokaiger movie that was really awful in almost every possible way(besides Big Machine that is), but she didn't become Kivala(partially because Kivala herself didn't appear in that movie), honestly I wouldn't be surprised if they had lost or damaged the suit I know what you're talking about but I'm pretty sure that was actually the main girl from OOO instead.
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Larryb posted:I know what you're talking about but I'm pretty sure that was actually the main girl from OOO instead. Could be, to be honest a lot of the main female characters of the Decade onward era kinda blend together if you haven't watched them in a while
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You mean the girl who was broadcasting "I've got one of Gamel's medals inside me" for the whole series, and then just... doesn't? And her super strength just stays this really weird unexplained slapstick thing. OOO is my first and I love it but it also really did not get away from the mid-season course change untouched.
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OOO is a good series that serves as a great show of why Yasuko Kobayashi is an amazing writer who shouldn't be given long series. Characterization, beginning and end are all excellent...the middle part is slow as poo poo and mostly forgettable. I love her series, Shinkenger and Go-Busters are my favourite Sentai, but she's much better in shorter series. Even Shinkenger suffers with the slow and boring Akumaro arc (much as the ending of it is excellent).
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Wow, uh I actually started to write out the characteristics of all the female leads and a lot of them are so similar with maybe one quirk that it's not even funny. Akiko from W probably stands out the most, because she's got a loud and obnoxious personality that is eventually subdued Due to her relationship with the secondary rider but I'm not sure I could tell you the difference between Hiyori (Kabuto) or Natsumi (Decade) or Hina (OOOs) or Mai (Gaim) without using their hobby or profession. Then again if you want to be fair, secondary riders start to get the same personalities too.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Saban knew if he had %40 girl cast he could have %40 girl audience and have a more valuable IP and I wonder why sentai doesn't seem to care. Funny you say all this, the toy line is suffering fits because girl rangers aren’t selling. I don’t give a poo poo about the toys for these shows so I don’t pay attention, but apparently Bandai Of America goes to conventions and threatens that the Legacy line is GONE FOREVER if people don’t throw lots of money at figurines RIGHT loving NOW. Part of this sadistic relationship with fandom is complaining that female figures consistently sit on shelves everywhere in massive amounts relative to the guys. And when there was a rumor Bandai was basically looking to cut production of the girls, a bunch of guys applied Liberal Shame about how the daughter they’d have to get laid to have needs to want toys of the blue/yellow and sometimes pink Ranger. The whole thing feels like mismanagement from Bandai coupled with some element of unrealistic fan demand. They should probably not make full Ranger teams of Legacy unless the most popular rangers sell well. They should make figures of the girls of whatever the current show is. Even Kimberly isn’t popular enough to sell out both her initial Legacy release and her metal-remix edition because nobody wanted to own two teams of MMPR to begin with. At the same time, best example I can think of is that Hasbro has no problem making some merchandise of MLP’s male characters and they are of secondary importance at best, and often filler.
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