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In Escape From the Pit, is there a way to make it easier to see items on the ground?
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Jul 24, 2013 19:32
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C-Euro posted:In Escape From the Pit, is there a way to make it easier to see items on the ground? Not really. Just gotta hit 'g' a lot.
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Jul 25, 2013 01:47
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Eventually you'll learn to pick them out of the background. That's mostly cash fodder anyway, I don't think there are any important items just lying around without a text prompt or a prominent chest.
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Jul 25, 2013 03:35
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andrew smash posted:Eventually you'll learn to pick them out of the background. That's mostly cash fodder anyway, I don't think there are any important items just lying around without a text prompt or a prominent chest. The main exception is that sometimes bosses drop good gear when you kill them, although in those cases you already know exactly where to look.
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Jul 25, 2013 12:20
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Something worth noting: you basically should never buy gear in this game. Money is somewhat scarce, save it for skills/spells and certain consumables. Armor and weapons and most basic potions are found in abundance. The exception might be right at the start of the game. Buy better poo poo then if you want to give yourself an edge but very quickly you'll be getting magic equipment from bosses or quests and the basic stuff drops aplenty from random dudes.
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Jul 26, 2013 05:52
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Thanks, I've noticed that a lot of stuff is pretty pricey but I don't remember buying any weapons or armor so far. Speaking of costs, is there any sort of bartering or reputation system in this game, or some way to bring all of these merchants down from the "Expensive" price bracket?
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Jul 26, 2013 05:59
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C-Euro posted:Thanks, I've noticed that a lot of stuff is pretty pricey but I don't remember buying any weapons or armor so far. Nope, but do get Negotiator trait for all 4 of your characters as soon as you can get it. It's only an 8% boost in total gold gain, but that extra bit really helps.
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Jul 26, 2013 06:15
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Does anybody else find ward of thoughts utterly worthless? It's supremely irritating to cast it specifically when i know i'm going to be fighting something with charm attacks only to have my two fighters charmed in the first round anyway. In fact it's making me not want to finish the game, considering the sudden proliferation of enemies with mind effects like gazers and cryo drakes. It sucks because i'm steamrolling everything else, but the only ability in the entire game that is supposed to be a defense against thought attacks doesn't seem to work at all. Edit: haha, also, enemies with mass heal can suck my balls. It doesn't make them any more likely to win a fight but holy gently caress does it make fights take longer. andrew smash fucked around with this message at 14:00 on Jul 26, 2013 |
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Jul 26, 2013 13:51
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andrew smash posted:Does anybody else find ward of thoughts utterly worthless? It's supremely irritating to cast it specifically when i know i'm going to be fighting something with charm attacks only to have my two fighters charmed in the first round anyway. In fact it's making me not want to finish the game, considering the sudden proliferation of enemies with mind effects like gazers and cryo drakes. It sucks because i'm steamrolling everything else, but the only ability in the entire game that is supposed to be a defense against thought attacks doesn't seem to work at all. I feel the same way. Since it was my only ward I used it anyway but once I got ward of Steel I used that and then finally settled on ward of elements later on. The charm spell is like this too, in my opinion. Even at level 3 the spell always failed to work. As for countering charm get unshackle mind and mass heal for your priest or equivalent. You will literally go from barely surviving encounters to steamrolling over them. Mass curing is good too, but you can power through most debuffs by using mass heal.
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Jul 26, 2013 13:58
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Red Mundus posted:I feel the same way. Since it was my only ward I used it anyway but once I got ward of Steel I used that and then finally settled on ward of elements later on. The charm spell is like this too, in my opinion. Even at level 3 the spell always failed to work. I have all that poo poo, i'm in the final quests of the game. The problem with unshackle mind is that it is single target so if both fighters get charmed one of them will one shot my priest regardless of which one i cure.
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Jul 26, 2013 14:01
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My priest has some of the best armor of the game, so even when my fighters are charmed, its like 5 or 6 hits before the priest is dead. Luckily it's only the mage that can't use good armor, but there are ways around that.
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Jul 26, 2013 16:49
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Is there any sort of spellcrafting/enchanting system in Escape from the Pit, or can I sell all these unenchanted pieces of jewelry and colored crystals?
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Jul 26, 2013 22:20
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There's some "alchemy" wherein you trade herbs for potions but you can easily beat the game ignoring it. As for the jewelry and crystals, they're just for cash. Chuck 'em.
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Jul 26, 2013 22:27
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C-Euro posted:Is there any sort of spellcrafting/enchanting system in Escape from the Pit, or can I sell all these unenchanted pieces of jewelry and colored crystals? There's a few quests that you will need some picks/tongs/etc so save some of them in your junk bag. Hoard anything of value that you wont use and sell it to vendors when you can.
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Jul 26, 2013 22:32
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I just started an LP for Geneforge 2, with the blessing of Gatesealer. I need more people to vote on what to make the main character before I can proceed. I'll be playing on Torment and up for all kinds of roleplaying restrictions down the line, so it should be a wild ride.
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Jul 27, 2013 05:21
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MiltonSlavemasta posted:I just started an LP for Geneforge 2, with the blessing of Gatesealer. I need more people to vote on what to make the main character before I can proceed. I'll be playing on Torment and up for all kinds of roleplaying restrictions down the line, so it should be a wild ride. Awesome that you're doing that! I'll refrain from chiming in on the votes since I know how it goes but I'll say this -- one of my favorite things about the faction system in the Geneforge games, the thing I haven't seen any other RPG get so right, is the way your choices always seem to have consequence, but you're rarely locked into a certain path until very late. There's always room for you to change your mind as you see what you've wrought with your decisions. I hope you can find a way to reflect that in your audience participation without making it feel like their earlier choices were meaningless; I can imagine it coming off differently if you're not the one playing the game.
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Jul 28, 2013 18:17
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Is there a way to make map annotations in these games, or any other sort of custom annotation? I've gotten the Crown Token in Escape from the Pit and I've run into a few rooms in dungeons that I haven't been strong enough to clear yet, but want to come back to later. I'm just afraid that I'll forget where they are or what's in them so I'm hoping I can mark them somehow in game, but all I've seen so far is the journal's ability to record dialogue blurbs. Is there some less-obvious button or keystroke to push, or do I have to go old school and take notes on pen and paper? E: What determines how much armor is "too much" for spellcasters? I want my cleric to be more of a frontline fighter/buff specialist (think D&D cleric) but I can't tell how much armor is going to prevent him from casting. I'm also thinking about giving him the Spellsword perk (or whatever it's called) next, does that also work for priest spells even though the description says mage spells? C-Euro fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Jul 31, 2013 |
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Jul 31, 2013 01:38
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Na, nothing in game. I've been running the game in a window and taking notes in Notepad. Such things as dungeons not yet defeated, lvl3 magic doors and locks that I need to come back to later.
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Jul 31, 2013 01:45
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C-Euro posted:E: What determines how much armor is "too much" for spellcasters? I want my cleric to be more of a frontline fighter/buff specialist (think D&D cleric) but I can't tell how much armor is going to prevent him from casting. I'm also thinking about giving him the Spellsword perk (or whatever it's called) next, does that also work for priest spells even though the description says mage spells? It's based on your total to-hit penalty from all equipment: by default a -5% penalty is the most you can cast mage spells in, and each rank of Swordmage raises the limit by 5%. There's no limit for priest spells, so put as much armour on your priests as you like.
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Jul 31, 2013 08:54
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Thuryl posted:It's based on your total to-hit penalty from all equipment: by default a -5% penalty is the most you can cast mage spells in, and each rank of Swordmage raises the limit by 5%. There's no limit for priest spells, so put as much armour on your priests as you like. Oh what the gently caress I wish I knew this before.
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Jul 31, 2013 13:25
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In Geneforge how much leadership/mechanics should I aim for to have access to everything? Also, I still have the fyora I made in the tutorial and it's level 7 now. Since then I got my fyora shaping skill upgraded. Is it worth making a new one or does the higher skill factor into its leveling somehow? Dragonwagon fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Aug 1, 2013 |
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Aug 1, 2013 18:11
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Dragonwagon posted:In Geneforge how much leadership/mechanics should I aim for to have access to everything? Imo they shouldn't level independently at all. They get skillpoints but you have to spend essence or whatever it's called to use them anyway. You're better off pumping the skill and considering them disposable, that way new monsters have better skills without increasing in cost.
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Aug 1, 2013 18:23
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I'm a guardian and I didn't plan on having more than 1 or 2 creatures so it's not like I have anything else to spend essence on. What exactly does that skill do anyway? The fyora skill you can only get from canisters (afaik). I know you need one point to make fyoras, but what about any further points?
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Aug 1, 2013 21:00
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Dragonwagon posted:I'm a guardian and I didn't plan on having more than 1 or 2 creatures so it's not like I have anything else to spend essence on. If you have three points in any given creature, you get the option to make a variant which is often stronger (but not always). For example the Fyora variant is Cryoas which spit ice instead of fire, are better all around, and have a higher base level. Also every extra point towards that creation raises the starting creature level when you make a fresh one.
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Aug 1, 2013 21:05
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Dragonwagon posted:In Geneforge how much leadership/mechanics should I aim for to have access to everything? As far as I know, the highest leadership requirement in Geneforge 1 is 12; you can easily get by with a bit less if you don't mind getting in one or two fights or doing one or two quests that you could otherwise avoid. Mechanics is a bit more flexible since you can get away with low Mechanics if you're judicious about how you use living tools; but since you're a Guardian, you won't get much benefit out of the Unlock spell, so you'll want to raise Mechanics higher than other classes. Get a few points in it ASAP and again aim for maybe 12 points as your final target.
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Aug 2, 2013 06:59
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Dragonwagon posted:I'm a guardian and I didn't plan on having more than 1 or 2 creatures so it's not like I have anything else to spend essence on.  EDIT: Wait were there any of the map-long buffs which chew up tons of Essence in Geneforge 1 or were they introduced in 2?
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Aug 2, 2013 07:36
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Thuryl posted:As far as I know, the highest leadership requirement in Geneforge 1 is 12; you can easily get by with a bit less if you don't mind getting in one or two fights or doing one or two quests that you could otherwise avoid. Mechanics is a bit more flexible since you can get away with low Mechanics if you're judicious about how you use living tools; but since you're a Guardian, you won't get much benefit out of the Unlock spell, so you'll want to raise Mechanics higher than other classes. Get a few points in it ASAP and again aim for maybe 12 points as your final target. Oh, good. I'm already at 11 mechanics and still see levers that need 3 tools to open, which had me worried my skill might be too low. I have 20+ tools though so I should be fine. Zereth posted:Healing, long-term buffs. IIRC, the mechanics in 1 favor making new creations over leveling up old ones. Treat them as disposable tools, like any good Shaper. Do you mean the blessing spells? I'm not using any of those. And for healing I've been relying on items. It worked out so far but I don't know if there's going to be any upgraded healing items later in the game.
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Aug 2, 2013 11:05
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No, there are some spells which I think don't actually exist in 1 that just buff the target for until you leave the map you're on and cost a large chunk of Essence but no Energy. Anyway, IIRC Guardians are weak at Magic, but notice that Healing is actually a Shaping category skill.
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Aug 2, 2013 13:46
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Are there any advantages to healing spells over using items?
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Aug 2, 2013 14:24
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Your Essence is refilled for free when you go to towns, so you aren't going to run out of healing spells, off the top of my head.
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Aug 2, 2013 14:27
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I just finished Geneforge 2 with the Taker ending, it was surprisingly satisfying. I played as an agent and only rarely used creatures when I'd summon 7 Fyora as cannon fodder. Terrify and whatevery the mind control spell is called are really good!Dragonwagon posted:Are there any advantages to healing spells over using items? In Geneforge 2 if you're a magic focused character they're just straight up stronger at midway through the game and beyond. It does take more action points to cast a spell than use an item, though.
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Aug 2, 2013 15:51
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You know what's really good in 2? Mass Daze.
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Aug 2, 2013 15:59
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Zereth posted:You know what's really good in 2? No kidding. I think the game was 80% over by the time I got it, unfortunately.
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Aug 2, 2013 16:16
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Really? I'm pretty sure I made it my mainstay for most of the game. Of course, if you didn't visit a place that teaches it until late, well.
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Aug 2, 2013 16:23
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Zereth posted:Really? I'm pretty sure I made it my mainstay for most of the game. Of course, if you didn't visit a place that teaches it until late, well. I'm sure you could have gotten it earlier, I just didn't
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Aug 2, 2013 18:04
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Defeating Hawthorne in Escape from the Pit is way more a pain in the rear end than I remember from Avernum. Just beat it on Normal, can't imagine doing it on hard.
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Aug 2, 2013 22:20
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GreenNight posted:Defeating Hawthorne in Escape from the Pit is way more a pain in the rear end than I remember from Avernum. Just beat it on Normal, can't imagine doing it on hard. i did it with 4 brooches instead of 5. whoops.
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Aug 2, 2013 22:23
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GreenNight posted:Defeating Hawthorne in Escape from the Pit is way more a pain in the rear end than I remember from Avernum. Just beat it on Normal, can't imagine doing it on hard. I did it on hard recently, took me about 30 reloads to do without losing anyone. loving golems either: stun my tanks, or start knocking everyone around the room away from each other. Specifically, I had to change my party order to make sure my priest went first so he could cure stun on someone when he wasn't healing or nuking with Firestorm. Invuln potions are a must, along with speed scrolls that give battle frenzy. Edit 2: Forgot to mention, I didn't even bother with Garhzad, I saved right before I triggered his script, battle frenzied, went into fight mode and then took two turns to rush past him. Edit: I eventually plan to beat this game on Torment. Weep for me. 
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Aug 2, 2013 22:31
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GreenNight posted:Defeating Hawthorne in Escape from the Pit is way more a pain in the rear end than I remember from Avernum. Just beat it on Normal, can't imagine doing it on hard. I liked it better when it was him and a bunch of empire bigwigs and elite body guards in his throne room, rather than a set piece boss fight. It made you feel less like a video game character and more like an actual assassin.
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Aug 2, 2013 22:33
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The Moon Monster posted:I liked it better when it was him and a bunch of empire bigwigs and elite body guards in his throne room, rather than a set piece boss fight. It made you feel less like a video game character and more like an actual assassin. Yeah, in the original it wasn't really a hard fight, just a satisfying story climax. Grah-hoth was more the final boss fight.
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