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Which religion is the best?
Shintoism
Buddhism
Taoism
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Malachite
Mar 2, 2004


Hopeless Masquerade is pretty terrible as a competitive game, but its still a lot of fun to play. It has a lot of issues and was obviously rushed, but hopefully they'll be worked out. The latest patch temporarily(?) disabled the dash cancel on the broom system cards, which were used in some disgusting near unavoidable blockstrings that would repeatedly guard break you, so at least Tasofro is listening.

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Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.


The picture is a bit wrong/confusing though. First of all it doesn't mention that C and Z are equivalent to (A+B) to (X+Y) which kind of makes the controls simpler than implied. You could think of them as two special buttons.

Also, religion doesn't affect equipped skills at all. It only affects your basic X and Y bullets, and for Buddhism also allows you to charge up your B melee attacks for a bit more hitstun or something. It's idiosyncratic for each character, but as a basic rule of thumb for how religion affects your bullets: Shinto = spread/homing, Taoism = speed and power, and Buddhism = short range but dense.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Malachite posted:

Hopeless Masquerade is pretty terrible as a competitive game, but its still a lot of fun to play.

Like I said, Smash.

For reference on how rushed the game was, we're like four/five patches in and you still can't play as the final boss outside of Story mode.

Clarste posted:

First of all it doesn't mention that C and Z are equivalent to (A+B) to (X+Y)
It does.

quote:

Also, religion doesn't affect equipped skills at all.
This is right though (unless you count being able to buddhism charge attack skills edit: wait poo poo no, you can't do that). But sue me, I made that thing on day 1.

EDIT 2: Whoops, forgot this:

quote:

The picture is a bit wrong/confusing though.

BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at Jun 23, 2013 around 04:36

Malachite
Mar 2, 2004


BlitzBlast posted:


For reference on how rushed the game was, we're like four/five patches in and you still can't play as the final boss outside of Story mode.

Even in story mode, she doesn't have any skill or spell cards.

Some characters don't even have their skill cards change depending on where you place them. Mamizou has all of 1 skill that changes, everything else doesn't matter where you slot it, while for the earlier characters placement is extremely important. It says a lot that the best characters at the moment are the three from the demo +Nitori. Those characters actually feel complete too, instead of gimmicky, awkward or just completely lacking necessary tools.

Hisoutensoku fixed a few fundamental issues from Hisouten, so I'm curious if this game will be received well enough to warrant a similar expansion.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.


Well, in any case it was clearly rushed out the door to meet the Reitaisai deadline. Tasofro's claimed on their blog that they'll continue to support it though, so I think an expansion (or just a lot of patches) is likely.

MadRhetoric
Feb 18, 2011

I POSSESS QUESTIONABLE TASTE IN TOUHOU GAMES


Volt Catfish posted:

Anybody cna learn Byakuren she's tyhe coolest cat ever aropund devised by ZuN's fightring game corporajt9on

edit: hlep me i'm, DYING duxck enyaukren is sitll the best characte rcushe uses a swo4rd and she usres acasp[e and thats ooc.;l

On a scale from one to Suika how drunk were you when you posted this?

And IaMP will now and forever be the best Touhou fighting game competitively.

GC_ChrisReeves
Dec 16, 2004



"You're going to be...amazing."

MadRhetoric posted:

On a scale from one to Suika



EDIT: Making up for a meme with a cool suika picture

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011



I like Hopeless Masquerade because it's a scrub game for scrub players like me.

So yeah, it's the Super Smash Bros of Touhou.

ElMaligno
Dec 31, 2004

DUNSON'D


HM is the best because I can use Futo and burn everything with the holy flames of the taoist ideals.

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

God dammit, why is Kokoro's theme so good? Just when I thought I was done listening to it, I find this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47DQeFOsjEY
Fair warning, its Techno, so... yeah. Its a really good remix though.

Golden Battler
Sep 6, 2010

~Perfect and Elegant~


I don't suppose I could request the assistance of one of the people hear that are good at reading/translating Japanese? There's a thing that I could really use some help with, as it's a bit too big for my meager skills to handle alone.

ProfessorProf
Nov 9, 2011

Foolish child of man...
After reading all this,
do you still not understand?


Golden Battler posted:

I don't suppose I could request the assistance of one of the people hear that are good at reading/translating Japanese? There's a thing that I could really use some help with, as it's a bit too big for my meager skills to handle alone.

I'm not fluent, but I can usually fumble my way through text if it isn't too huge. What's the thing?

Golden Battler
Sep 6, 2010

~Perfect and Elegant~


ProfessorProf posted:

I'm not fluent, but I can usually fumble my way through text if it isn't too huge. What's the thing?

Sent you a PM.

Hokuto
Jul 21, 2002




Soiled Meat

If you have any trouble, you can send the parts you're not sure about my way.

Tengames
Oct 29, 2008



oh hey the results for that popularity poll are in. havent found it in english yet except for google translation.

vv well no wonder i kept getting the page for the japanese wiki's poll when searching for it

Tengames fucked around with this message at Jul 1, 2013 around 05:48

MadRhetoric
Feb 18, 2011

I POSSESS QUESTIONABLE TASTE IN TOUHOU GAMES


^^ Look harder

The Nico Popularity Poll finished up. Usual suspects won music, Reimu keeps her iron grip on the top spot, the main playables took top "pairing".

What's interesting is Koishi took second. Hartman's Youkai Girl got 4th in the song contest too. HM's final boss made 14th.

HM must have been really well received.

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010


Koishi is second? Huh.

Also Last Remote is way better than Hartmann's Youkai Girl.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

And here I thought I was joking when I said that Renko and Maribel would be hundreds of times more popular if you could vote for both of them at the same time.

Also Youmu got the most 1st place votes yet somehow ended up in 11th.

EDIT: V And it had better not.

BlitzBlast fucked around with this message at Jul 1, 2013 around 05:06

voltcatfish
Jan 14, 2010

There's a super special, super popular thing called spaghetti that I want to try!

Lipstick Apathy

Heh Reimu dropping from top spot would be like Leon Magnus dropping from top spot, not gonna happen.

legoman727
Mar 13, 2010

by exmarx


Where did all this popularity for Koishi come from?

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter


legoman727 posted:

Where did all this popularity for Koishi come from?

She's really cute in HM? That's about all I can think of unless she showed up very recently in a manga or something.

voltcatfish
Jan 14, 2010

There's a super special, super popular thing called spaghetti that I want to try!

Lipstick Apathy

legoman727 posted:

Where did all this popularity for Koishi come from?

Love at first computer crash?

Trihugger
Jun 28, 2008


I find it more impressive that Kokoro took 14th with only 9.23% of her votes being first place. A ton of people must have voted for her with one of their other votes.

Hokuto
Jul 21, 2002




Soiled Meat

Almost 20% of voters picked Necrofantasia for first music pick. What the hell, Touhou fans.

JosephWongKS
Apr 4, 2009

I hate this book and I hate Railrunner and I hate Thunderbark and I hate Black Magic and I hate everything they stand for.

Hokuto posted:

Almost 20% of voters picked Necrofantasia for first music pick. What the hell, Touhou fans.

That's not the first time in this thread you've criticised Necrofantasia. What do you have against it?

EDIT: To be clear, I'm not in turn attacking you for disliking Necrofantasia. I'm honestly curious to know what are the flaws / shortcomings in the song.

Hokuto
Jul 21, 2002




Soiled Meat

I was actually commenting on that because it flew in the face of my earlier complaints so it was joking chagrin. In all honesty, I find the high-pitched synth tones used mostly at the beginning of the song to be incredibly grating. The rest is okay until they go back to that synth again.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

JosephWongKS posted:

I'm honestly curious to know what are the flaws / shortcomings in the song.

Because it's so popular nobody gives Night Falls the attention it deserves.

Anyways, yeah the main problem is that synth trumpet or whatever. It sounds fine on the slower Necrofantasy, but on Necrofantasia it's just blaring loud and honestly kind of annoying.

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005


Clever Betty

Hokuto posted:

I was actually commenting on that because it flew in the face of my earlier complaints so it was joking chagrin. In all honesty, I find the high-pitched synth tones used mostly at the beginning of the song to be incredibly grating. The rest is okay until they go back to that synth again.

As usual, the flaws in any Touhou track can be fixed with copious amounts of remixes.

BlitzBlast posted:

Because it's so popular nobody gives Night Falls the attention it deserves.
Dude knows what's up yo.

Golden Battler
Sep 6, 2010

~Perfect and Elegant~


BlitzBlast posted:

Because it's so popular nobody gives Night Falls the attention it deserves.

Concealed the Conclusion had the right idea.

Namtab
Feb 22, 2010



Karen's power intensifies



Nothing feels better than Reimu supremacy.

fuepi
Feb 6, 2011

by FactsAreUseless


Desire Drive's in the top 10 music, that is some good poo poo right there

HMS Boromir
Jul 16, 2011

by Lowtax


Necrofantasia is a perfectly good song but I gotta agree with the original synth being earmelting.

Revalis Enai
Apr 21, 2003

Wait, what's my phone number again?

Fun Shoe

Pleasantly surprised by jump in popularity of Koishi and Hartman, both have been my favorite character and music.
Also the Kokoro/Koishi pairing was expected but surprised at how high it ranked for showing up the first time.
And yes, Night Falls is vastly superior to Necrofantasia.

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

Yeah, since Necrofantasia and Necro Fantasy are both similar, I just think that Necrofantasia/Necro Fantasy are Ran's theme and Night Falls is Yukari's.

The 3 fairies ranked pretty low, that's kind of surprising.
Border of Life beaten by Hartmann's Youkai Girl? Koishi's sudden popularity is pretty obvious, huh?

Insurrectionist
May 21, 2007


Necro-Fantasy is way way better than Necrofantasia as well, so no wonder there's outrage.

Cernunnos
Sep 2, 2011


I've always liked Necro-Fantasy more than Necrofantasia. Mostly because Necro-Fantasy has a much better buildup IMO.

GC_ChrisReeves
Dec 16, 2004



"You're going to be...amazing."

well it's only 8th for Aya but still, it's something to celebrate...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3AB-aL-C3o

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Cernunnos posted:

I've always liked Necro-Fantasy more than Necrofantasia. Mostly because Necro-Fantasy has a much better buildup IMO.

The version of Necrofantasia on ZUN's albums tries to fix that slightly, but it still doesn't quite hit the mark. Even if you ignore the buildup (which is, in fact, better), Necro-Fantasy also doesn't lean so heavily on those goddamn synth horns. Yeah, they're still there, but they're less... obtrusive?
FAKE EDIT: okay, no, listening to the song again, the synth horn is just as bad in Necro-Fantasy. It's just not as omnipresent.

I'm perfectly willing to call Necro-Fantasy strictly Ran's theme while Night Falls is Yukari's. Night Falls fits her better anyway.

MadRhetoric
Feb 18, 2011

I POSSESS QUESTIONABLE TASTE IN TOUHOU GAMES


I think the synth horns in Necrofantasia are charming; they hit that sweet spot of slapdash and sublime, like all of ZUN's stuff. I also find the unremixed U.N. Owen hilarious.

Night Falls is pretty cool, though.

e: Time for douchebag EDM Night Falls

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Leviathean
Oct 22, 2012


With all this talk about Necro-Fantasy vs. Necrofantasia, why don't we just combine the two themes and rejoice in its glory? Maybe it can win next year's poll!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6J9daarKf64

...Oh, that's why. No matter how many times I listen to this, I'm amazed at how it turns out.

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