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Namtab
Feb 22, 2010



Karen's power intensifies



Green eyed jealousy, Okuu's theme and that mouse girl's theme are the only post-IN tracks I like.

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Insurrectionist
May 21, 2007


You're crazy. Lullaby of Deserted Hell is the best piece in the series.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Followed closely by Gensokyo the Gods Loved. I'm pretty sure Desire Drive and UFO Romance in the Night Sky rank pretty high on my personal top ten list, too.

GC_ChrisReeves
Dec 16, 2004



"You're going to be...amazing."

Can anyone hit me up with some more up to date metal/rock recommendations? I generally like Demetori, Sonic Hybrid Orchestra and Crow's Claw but they're a bit done to death with me right now.

In return I can offer orchestral recommendations for WAVE, Oriens and Kitsune's Workshop/Foxfactory.

Leylite
Nov 4, 2011


I suppose I'll start by recommending the album Rhapsody of Okazaki Fragment, which is a collection of rock remixes of various PC-98 tracks.

...that's about all I've got.

Trihugger
Jun 28, 2008


I'm still hoping someone eventually does a rock or rock ballad version of Eternal Steam Engine. I've asked a couple people that listen to way more Touhou remixes than I do and they told me it doesn't exist.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Eternal Steam Engine seems to be in a pile with things like most of Phantasmagoria of Dim.Dream's soundtrack in the "doesn't even get remembered, much less remixed" category.

Not helping matters is the thought of tying together bagpipes and rock. It takes a very, very skilled hand to do that well.

Aliginge posted:

Can anyone hit me up with some more up to date metal/rock recommendations? I generally like Demetori, Sonic Hybrid Orchestra and Crow's Claw but they're a bit done to death with me right now.

I dunno if Magnum Opus is 'up to date' or not, since their last (full) album was in 2011, but they've been making stuff a lot more recently than the Wiki suggests. Hellion Sounds also came out with a new Touhou album last year, though after Magnum Opus and Demetori I'm less than impressed with them.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008


Namtab posted:

Green eyed jealousy, Okuu's theme and that mouse girl's theme are the only post-IN tracks I like.

Insurrectionist posted:

You're crazy. Lullaby of Deserted Hell is the best piece in the series.

KataraniSword posted:

Followed closely by Gensokyo the Gods Loved. I'm pretty sure Desire Drive and UFO Romance in the Night Sky rank pretty high on my personal top ten list, too.

No mention of Cosmic Mind? What is wrong with you people?!

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

CommissarMega posted:

No mention of Cosmic Mind? What is wrong with you people?!

...For some reason, Emotional Skyscraper doesn't even ping my conscious thoughts as "Touhou music" any more.

This might be because the Trinity Orchestra version of it is pretty much my favorite piece of music period, so it's transcended from the mortal realm.

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008


Personally, I prefer the sheer power of Tutti Sound's arrangement, with this variant of Xi-on's arrangement coming a close second.

CommissarMega fucked around with this message at Jul 6, 2013 around 04:01

Decoy Badger
May 16, 2009


While arrangements are being slung about, could everyone post the saddest, most tear-jerking arrange of Parsee's theme they have? There seems to be a really melancholy core to the song that nobody really seems to express.

TOO SCSI FOR MY CAT
Oct 12, 2008

this is what happens when you take UI design away from engineers and give it to a bunch of hipster art student "designers"


Decoy Badger posted:

While arrangements are being slung about, could everyone post the saddest, most tear-jerking arrange of Parsee's theme they have? There seems to be a really melancholy core to the song that nobody really seems to express.
Isn't every single arrange of her theme trying to sound melancholy? You can just search youtube for [green eyed jealousy] and get hundreds of background-music-to-sad-movie songs.

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G63LyAUAomA

Rectus
Apr 27, 2008



TOO SCSI FOR MY CAT posted:

Isn't every single arrange of her theme trying to sound melancholy? You can just search youtube for [green eyed jealousy] and get hundreds of background-music-to-sad-movie songs.

Example:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G63LyAUAomA

That arrange reminds me of this wonderful version of Alice in Wonderland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSpxN1v81l0

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005


Clever Betty

KataraniSword posted:

...For some reason, Emotional Skyscraper doesn't even ping my conscious thoughts as "Touhou music" any more.
The thing about Emotional Skyscraper and Nuclear Fusion is that they are incredibly hard to gently caress up. It takes genuine skill to screw those two up into a form that's not really listenable, and it tends to involve squirrel DJ voice or shrill japanese girl voices if they manage it.

Justus
Apr 18, 2006

...

Decoy Badger posted:

While arrangements are being slung about, could everyone post the saddest, most tear-jerking arrange of Parsee's theme they have? There seems to be a really melancholy core to the song that nobody really seems to express.

Doesn't involve her theme in any way, but KaMs' video on Parsee, as usual, cuts straight to the heart of the matter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qs9fwWIe2hI

Justus
Apr 18, 2006

...

Captain Invictus posted:

The thing about Emotional Skyscraper and Nuclear Fusion is that they are incredibly hard to gently caress up. It takes genuine skill to screw those two up into a form that's not really listenable, and it tends to involve squirrel DJ voice or shrill japanese girl voices if they manage it.

THIS IS A CHALLENGE I CANNOT IGNORE INVICTUS! I am a musician with GENUINE SKILL, and I promise you, I CAN gently caress THAT MUSIC UP!

BEHOLD!



So listen! And prepare your ear drums for MERCILESS SQUARE WAVES BOMBARDMENT

Captain Invictus
Apr 5, 2005


Clever Betty

You are ACTIVELY TRYING to destroy it and it retains the beat still, it's still at least semi-catchy! You have failed!

Make one out of vuvuzelas now, please.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Captain Invictus posted:

The thing about Emotional Skyscraper and Nuclear Fusion is that they are incredibly hard to gently caress up. It takes genuine skill to screw those two up into a form that's not really listenable, and it tends to involve squirrel DJ voice or shrill japanese girl voices if they manage it.

Hell, even Okuu's Nuclear Fusion Dojo manages to be listenable despite being full of shrill Japanese girl voice and yukkuri-talker, and I pretty universally despise IOSYS's later stuff.

Their take on Emotional Skyscraper is hardly recognizable as the original song, so I'm not sure it counts though.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!


Let's forget about that garbage and enjoy this version of ES. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IbihJ-3lvo

CommissarMega
Nov 18, 2008


Decoy Badger posted:

While arrangements are being slung about, could everyone post the saddest, most tear-jerking arrange of Parsee's theme they have? There seems to be a really melancholy core to the song that nobody really seems to express.

I like C-Clay's take on it, but odds are everyone and their uncle's listened to this already.

Rectus posted:

That arrange reminds me of this wonderful version of Alice in Wonderland.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSpxN1v81l0

Tutti Sound's Shall We Dance? is another good arrange, methinks.

Zandracon
Oct 21, 2010


KataraniSword posted:

Hell, even Okuu's Nuclear Fusion Dojo manages to be listenable despite being full of shrill Japanese girl voice and yukkuri-talker, and I pretty universally despise IOSYS's later stuff.

Their take on Emotional Skyscraper is hardly recognizable as the original song, so I'm not sure it counts though.

IOSYS's stuff right now isn't really all that bad, I suppose if you just don't like any vocal or pop stuff then sure. They do more than those denpa/cutesy high pitched vocal arranges that got super popular!

Also I kinda love Shibayan. Like here's his Necrofantasia arrange. Fun attempting to figure out what parts of the song he's using in some of his arranges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUqCIpUsEu4

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Zandracon posted:

IOSYS's stuff right now isn't really all that bad, I suppose if you just don't like any vocal or pop stuff then sure. They do more than those denpa/cutesy high pitched vocal arranges that got super popular!

Yeah, I generalize a bit too much about IOSYS, since Minami's stuff is still top-notch and I've liked the few more recent arranges/collabs that branch into other genres. It just seems like their main albums have gone mostly into denpa pop and non-melodic drum loops and shameless oontz (see: anything ARM arranges) so it's gotten harder to pick out the songs they make that I enjoy as opposed to the stuff that annoys me but goes memetic!

It doesn't help that I've got a pretty decent amount of nostalgia for Border of Death and These Two Wings, both of which are far more melodically-driven than their later stuff.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

So the FMW3 trial is now free to download. You should try it, the new engine is pretty slick!

I'm hoping the full game comes out next Comiket. Supposedly there's talk of a new PV.

GC_ChrisReeves
Dec 16, 2004



"You're going to be...amazing."

As a recently new resident, I am culturally obliged to post Setz's new comic.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1456681?pool_id=1754

In not at all related news:

HellCopter
Feb 9, 2012


College Slice

Aliginge posted:

As a recently new resident, I am culturally obliged to post Setz's new comic.

http://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/1456681?pool_id=1754

The joke, in case some of you didn't get it (like me):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrrBEXbhRLQ

legoman727
Mar 13, 2010

by exmarx


I still can't wait for FMW2 to be translated so I can actually play it. (Yes, I am a big babby who can't play in moonspeak.)

Also, Blitz, what in the hell happened for you to get that title?

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010


Well somebody ain't a fan of Sanae.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

legoman727 posted:

I still can't wait for FMW2 to be translated so I can actually play it. (Yes, I am a big babby who can't play in moonspeak.)

Sorry man, the translation's pretty much dead. If you want I could write up a big old post on how to play the game anyways!

Also volt's a petty person, news at 11.

Hazdoc
Nov 8, 2012

Muscovy Ducks are a large tropical breed, famous for their lean and extremely flavorful meat.

Hazduck!

~SMcD

Ugh, playing HM is kind of keeping me down. It feels awfully clunky and imprecise, to be honest. I much prefer Soku over it. I just can't get excited over it. It looks nice, though, but thats just about it.

Eeepies
May 29, 2013

No, that's Magic!


BlitzBlast posted:

Sorry man, the translation's pretty much dead. If you want I could write up a big old post on how to play the game anyways!

I could figure out almost everything except what the WP points were, what effects were the spellcards doing, and most WP skills. The rest were figurable, as it's mostly from SWR games, even the normal skills.

BlitzBlast
Jul 30, 2011

some people just wanna watch the world burn

Here you go. That has everything but the spellcards, you're going to have to name specific names for those.

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.


Forbidden Scrollery chapter 8 is now translated and on the wiki.

Summary: Uh... I guess there's this magic hood thing that was stolen except it wasn't, maybe? And there's a snake. It's another two part chapter so nothing really gets explained.

a cartoon duck
Sep 5, 2011





Plants are really whiny if you think about it.

Kind of a really boring chapter, really. At least it looks the next one will be full-on Marisa hijinks from beginning to end, so hopefully that'll make up for it. There really is nothing else to say about this chapter, unfortunately.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013






A thought came through my mind a long time ago when I was thinking about Satori's power to read the concious mind. Let's assume that there was someone whose native language was not Japanese, and as such, they thought in whatever foreign language they happened to be born under. And let's also say that they happen to visit Chireiden. If Satori were to read that person's concious, active mind, what would she "hear"? Would she hear exactly was it being thought - to her, the gibberish of a foreign language. Or would she hear a somewhat translated version of what they're thinking to Japanese - barring the fact that some things cannot be translated succintly or at all.

I remember reading that Yukari manipulated the borders of language around Gensoukyou (I spell it like this to preserve the mora, even if it does look kind of weird.), but I never thought of that as an accurate explanation. Just the phrase, "The ability to manipulate borders" or something seems vague enough to permit this. I've always considered it to be actual, physical borders like where she teleports trains from distant lands or closes off Gensoukyou from the outside world. I suppose Zun leaves it vague like this to basically allow a myriad of things to be possible, at any rate. It's just something I've thought of.

Also, Sanae's two themes and Satori's are obviously the best in the series. C-clays made 70's porn of Satori's theme, and I'm in love with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=44wmOJzFkN4

Clarste
Apr 15, 2013

Just how many mistakes have you suffered on the way here?

An uncountable number, to be sure.


She can read the minds of animals so it's pretty obvious to me that she doesn't rely on language. Her profile in SoPM also makes a big deal of her "wordlessness" and she likes reading books that contain a lot of internal narration. The implication being that because she can read minds she doesn't actually know how other people think. So the interpretation I would go with is that she doesn't hear thoughts in words at all. It's more basic than that.

AdorableStar
Jul 13, 2013






So you would say that it's essentially feelings and images that she's reading rather than active words? I haven't actually read any of the profiles, I don't believe. In addition to that, I can't remember seeing where she has the ability to read an animal's mind. The only two I can think of would be Okuu and Orin, but even they're partly humanoid, so I just considered them human minds with animal shapeshifting abilities. I also can't see how the ability to read minds gives her the inability to know how other people think. Sure, she lives in mostly isolation for the most part, but I think that the experience she's had actually doing it will give her a better understanding of how those exact people think, which isn't actually a good thing.

My Touhou knowledge is slowly fading from me; Besides that, I don't think I've even bothered to read any of the official books and whatnot - your SoPM example included.

KataraniSword
Apr 22, 2008

but at least I don't have
a MLP or MSPA avatar.
I am my own man.

Kheldragar posted:

So you would say that it's essentially feelings and images that she's reading rather than active words? I haven't actually read any of the profiles, I don't believe. In addition to that, I can't remember seeing where she has the ability to read an animal's mind. The only two I can think of would be Okuu and Orin, but even they're partly humanoid, so I just considered them human minds with animal shapeshifting abilities. I also can't see how the ability to read minds gives her the inability to know how other people think. Sure, she lives in mostly isolation for the most part, but I think that the experience she's had actually doing it will give her a better understanding of how those exact people think, which isn't actually a good thing.

My Touhou knowledge is slowly fading from me; Besides that, I don't think I've even bothered to read any of the official books and whatnot - your SoPM example included.

There's a few mentions of Okuu and Orin being only the tip of the iceberg, that Satori's practically got a menagerie of various animals in Chireiden.

And you've actually summed up half of why Satori has sealed herself underground! It's a mutual hatred; while she's feared for her powers, she's also come to dislike creatures that try to hide their feelings and thoughts behind lies and half-truths. She's much more comfortable around creatures that don't really act on ulterior motives, such as animals.

DrSunshine
Mar 23, 2009



Kheldragar posted:

A thought came through my mind a long time ago when I was thinking about Satori's power to read the concious mind. Let's assume that there was someone whose native language was not Japanese, and as such, they thought in whatever foreign language they happened to be born under. And let's also say that they happen to visit Chireiden. If Satori were to read that person's concious, active mind, what would she "hear"? Would she hear exactly was it being thought - to her, the gibberish of a foreign language. Or would she hear a somewhat translated version of what they're thinking to Japanese - barring the fact that some things cannot be translated succintly or at all.

Nitori invented the Universal Translator.

GC_ChrisReeves
Dec 16, 2004



"You're going to be...amazing."

jesus poo poo! Nitori made the babel fish.

This calls for a Hitchhiker's Guide to Gensokyo.

GC_ChrisReeves fucked around with this message at Jul 16, 2013 around 14:39

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JackMackerel
Jun 15, 2011


The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Scarlet Devil Mansion's Basement:

Stay away.

No, really. Stay away.

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