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amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

DrSunshine posted:

Angel Densetsu is really goddamn hilarious. The author's art definitely starts off pretty rough, but it's made me blurt out laughing so many times, even after multiple rereadings.

I have to second on reading Angel Densetsu. Kitano is a perfect cinnamon roll, and I love that Ryoko actually took the time to get to know him and how they have a perfectly healthy relationship. Even the friends Kitano eventually makes are all solid bros to him.

It's probably the best of the "Person is misunderstood/fawned over by everyone around them" type of manga, waaaay better than It's Sakamoto or Handa-kun. Sakamoto felt too perfect and it felt like he barely interacted with other characters. For Handa-kun, he really doesn't interact with anyone except his rear end in a top hat "best friend" and all his other "friends" are hangers-on who don't even know him at all.

amigolupus fucked around with this message at 19:53 on Sep 23, 2017

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amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

I stopped following FT after the timeskip, and the tournament where everyone randomly got some powerup to make them keep up with the power scaling. I heard the ending was a complete wet fart though. Like it just showed everyone's alive and confirmed some ships?

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

EmmyOk posted:

Is Mirai Nikki good and manga or anime?

It's got an interesting premise, but I found it quickly tried way too hard to be edgy and I just kept reading to see how trashy it got in the end. The way the manga romanticizes the relationship between not!Shinji and Yuno was hosed up since it included scenes of him giving into Stockholm Syndrome. The grossest edgy backstory had to be the Shrine Priestess who was being kept prisoner by her cult and was constantly raped by followers of said cult. :barf:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Other than taking care of two siblings, that synopsis sounds a lot like Glass Mask, an actual shojo series from the 80's.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Mikl posted:

Glass Mask is still ongoing! Still slooooooooooowly ongoing.

I don't think we'll ever see the end of Glass Mask, actually.

Is it going in the "The story is dragging itself out" sort of way, or the Togashi-Goes-On-Hiatus-Every-Few-Months way?

I think what I like the most is that Glass Mask shows us the performances of Maya and Ayumi, and that while both have a different approach, they're both just as valid interpretations.

What I like the least about it is the choice for the romantic lead.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Fabricated posted:

Act-Age has been picked up by FAScans for a while so it's worth checking out if for nothing but it being kind of weird to have in Weekly Jump.

http://manga.fascans.com/manga/actage
http://kissmanga.com/Manga/ACT-AGE/ (the first 3 chapters weren't done by FAScans because they were officially done by Viz when it was a Jump Start entry- they're probably free on WSJ's website too)

Basically, a high-school girl with no parents (Mother died, Father abandoned)...is somehow still allowed to take care of her younger siblings while trying to go to school and also work. She wants to be an actress, and unknowingly has developed incredible skill at method acting from sublimating her immense sadness/depression/etc into obsessively watching movies to feel emotion. She gets rejected from her first audition in the series despite being clearly talented because the woman running the agency realizes that enabling her method acting could lead her to a psychological breakdown and/or self harm. A young director disagrees with this and takes the MC under his wing to try and make her into a world class actor.

Does this series play this premise straight? The description makes it sound super exploitative, and I can only hope the woman running the agency isn't considered the bad guy for thinking about the MC's mental health. That, and it just reminds me of how some child actors who wound up being completely hosed up on drugs, or had mental/emotional breakdowns.

I'm just thinking of Glass Mask where the MC actually did suffer a psychological breakdown. Her mentor and producer isolated her from her friends so she wouldn't get "distracted". And then the producer kept her mom away from the MC because he wanted to make it a huge deal for the press to go crazy over. Except the mom was seriously sick and died while she was travelling to see the MC, which had then caused said breakdown.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Fabricated posted:

The woman running the agency is said to be a former actor who was like Yonagi, and she recognized her issue because she herself had a method-acting related mental breakdown so she's not presented badly. The series isn't super new still so it hasn't gotten too far into Yonagi's mental health issues (it touches on it a bit, mostly in a "this could be a problem" way); it mostly deals with how Yonagi's natural method acting causes her not do her lines right or forget about the set design (she literally runs into a wall at one point) and how it annoys other actors and directors who prefer to control performances. I'm guessing Yonagi not being the most mentally healthy person is going to be used as kind of a ticking time-bomb thing later on as she does more roles.

Being weekly jump I think the direction that Act-Age is going to go isn't going to be like Glass Mask where her director benefactor does gross controlling stuff like shutting her off from her family, but rather he'll probably just keep pushing her into roles to develop her skills or roles that make use of her natural talent without considering that the wrong role might cause her to break down from using her own unpleasant memories for material instead of her just getting into the character itself. It touches on

Huh, that's pretty good to know. I'll have to check it out sometime. Also I like what you said about the MC having problems working with others since that was also a thing that wasn't properly addressed in Glass Mask. I really liked the acting bits in Glass Mask, but looking back on it it had some problems. :v:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Brought To You By posted:

Overblown reactions are the bane of cooking manga, it's why I couldn't get into Yakitake either because it gets so ridiculous when a judge has to have himself anchored down to the ceiling so he doesn't go flying around the room when he eats a croissant.

IIRC, Yakitate doesn't have any skeevy fanservice in it, so that already puts it way above Shokugeki.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Only a few more hours until the next update of Spy x Family drops. I wanna know what happens next so bad.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017


So many good faces this chapter. :allears:

I'm glad the author didn't waste time having them do something about the other people on the waiting list and instead focused the rest of the chapter on the celebration. It really helps the story keep its good pacing.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Plutonis posted:

Also swatting your infant child to stop him from flying around and getting in danger isn't real abuse although isn't the best parenting option.

Yinlock posted:

she could've tried a car seat or something before immediately going to slapping the poo poo out of a baby

also never bringing up the fact that he can fuckin fly is a dick move

Quirks are an extension of your body, so Koichi grew up pretty stunted in that aspect.

Also I'm re-checking the chapters where she visits, and Koichi's mom still keeps swatting him with her Quirk to discipline him, even though Koichi's already in college. She also doesn't believe in Koichi doing anything right and casually puts him down whenever she talks at him. While what she's done isn't as monstrous as Endeavor's abuse of his family, it still comes across as abusive to me.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Plutonis posted:

It's honestly a more realistic take on bad parenting than the over the top stuff that Endeavor and other bad anime dads do.

That's a good point. It being more grounded is what makes it so much more effective to me.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Oh my god, of course there's a super special student council-esque group. :allears: I like that Handler telling Lloyd that he can use underhanded tactics means we can get either Lloyd and Yoru helping Anya get her next star, or Lloyd and Yoru teaming up to ruin some shithead kid's day.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Anya's already learning so much from her parents. She's gonna be amazing when she grows up. :allears:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Jose posted:

since i know high school kids fighting each other is fairly popular this is a good brutal one that doesn't go to Out's lengths. updates rarely thoguh

https://mangadex.org/title/1992/sugarless

its also nice to see a delinquent who is huge muscle wise and eats non-stop

Thanks, I enjoyed binging through this. :) My only criticism is that there's not really any downtime in-between fights. It would've been nice to see the characters just hanging out or doing something else to flesh out their personalities more.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Yeah, I'm invested in Hachiken's story so it's a huge relief to know Silver Spoon will have a conclusion soon.

I wish I could say the same for HunterXHunter... :negative:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

New chapter of Zipman is up.

Kaname doesn't seem to be aware that he's got a scary face so I'm not so sure if Cutie Charm guy's words about people judging you about your appearance even resonated with him. But even so, it's great he still understood the guy's desire to emulate his role model and all the effort he put into it.

Also the last two pages sure are a treat. Forget not-Star Platinum, that's one of the Watcher babies from Drakengard 1. :stare:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

I appreciate The Higher Being's honesty in admitting that they're a dick. That, and for actually using the doorbell. :allears:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Agravity Boys continue to be dumb fun and I think Jump needs a little more of that. Here's hoping it stays for a long time.

Also, I tried the second chapter of Undead Unluck and decided to drop it. The main characters are terrible, especially zombie man's constant sexual harassment. The foundation of their relationship is also pretty hosed up; zombie man doesn't really care about unlucky girl as a person but as his ticket to suicide, while the only reason unlucky girl is getting attached to zombie man because of Stockholm Syndrome and the fact he's the only one to ever touch her and not get killed by her power.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Well the ending to that one-shot sucked. I'm kind of amused that Near spent this entire chapter just doing his best Speedwagon impression and talking about how smart A-Kira is.

Darth TNT posted:

Agravity boys is stupid. And I keep reading it, because it's a good kind of stupid. Also a two parter!

The creature facts corner in this chapter was extremely on-point. :v: If this were to ever get an anime, I'm not sure how they could replicate this or Chris' "SEND LETTERS TO THE AUTHOR" page.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Elfface posted:

Honestly, the kid probably found the way to pass on the Death Note in such a way that it would cause the least destruction. Even before governments got involved, anyone who could have won the bidding war can hire a hitman and buy a suitcase nuke. Scale up to armies and missiles, what's one more weapon actually gonna do?

Petiso posted:

Still stupid that the end amounted to "and then the admin got pissed and banned the guy who found the exploit in the game, the end".

Yeah, this is what I feel too. The kid acknowledged that if he didn't do anything and gave Ryuk the Death Note back, Ryuk would just try and find someone else who wouldn't hesitate to use it. The kid found a way to get rid of the Death Note while doing something good, by erasing Japan's debt and giving other people enough money to live comfortably. The ending sucked because it can't leave that one ray of optimism well enough alone.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Rhonne posted:

Zipman!!

The dragon knows our hero's weakness!too bad we'll never find out what it is.

I see our hero pulled out the Mazinkaiser form. :hellyeah:


Also, here's the link to this week's Agravity Boys. I can't believe the galactic porn mag The Higher Being gave them actually came in handy. :allears:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Zipman had maybe 5 chapters to establish its set-up and stakes, so it's throwing me off how it feels like it got the axe pretty quick.

Agravity Boys keeps being fun, and I love how we're getting more dumbasses. The Higher Being is going to have so much fun messing with them. :v:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

The ending to this week's Zipman was trying to be touching but its breakneck pacing makes it fall flat. It hasn't done anything to make me care about the support crew at all. It sucks that Zipman really does feel like it got cancelled early, when Undead Unluck is still trucking along.

On the other end, I kind of expected that the reveal in this week's Agravity Boys will be that the new guy is into Chris no matter what, instead we got :tutbutt:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Rhonne posted:

It's a bummer because I was really enjoying it up until it started going into boss rush mode with no downtime in between. Then the brother got kidnapped so we lost the dynamic of them both working together in the suit and the fights became even less interesting.

Right? Like I thought he'd get his brother back after beating not-Star Platinum, instead we got a pretty rushed timeskip and apparently the MC became somewhat edgy.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

On Agravity Boys, Geralt making a solar-powered water wheel with brushes to apply his hemorrhoid medicine made me laugh. Also it's good to see The Higher Being is back to mess with everyone again.

Hypocrisy posted:

Grislow getting messed with in his fever was a nice, quick gag too.[/spoiler]

Three dangly bits! Six rolly balls!

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017


H.B. casually hanging out with the Agravity Boys will never stop being funny to me.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

New Agravity Boys chapter is up!

Out of all the things to happen, I never could have guessed that Baba, Geralt and Grislow joining a band of space pirates would be one of them. While HB didn't teleport the three back because they're being a dick, I did love their reasoning for it. :allears:

And I guess that's the end of Zipman? It tried so hard to provide a nice conclusion for everything, but it was just hard to care in the end.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Out of all the developments in the story, I wouldn't have expected Chris becoming a massively popular Twitch streamer. He even did the "Hey [UsernameX], thanks for the bits" thing you see streamers do. :allears: I really love how much Agravity Boys keeps being so surprising and still making it work.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

ConanThe3rd posted:

Well not for nothing but I think Paradox Ghostwriter aquitted itself from it's first chapter quite well. Here's to the next one.

I'm not sure about this. I mean, yeah, he admitted he plagiarized the manga, but he still went along with it in the end. Him going "well, it's my duty to give this to the people because they're asking for it" feels like a flimsy justification someone gives when they know they're doing something wrong.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

There's something off-putting about Ghostwriter MC's belief that he doesn't have a message to tell to his readers, and that he just wants to draw what he wants while appealing to everyone. I can't help but be reminded of Comicsgate and how they want comics to be devoid of messages and politics and exist to entertain them with boobs and asses. To a lesser extent, a manga without any message in it and has been focus group'd to try and appeal to everyone is basically just Black Clover.

And while the high school girl has the same belief as the MC, it did take her ten years of constantly reworking the concept for her manga until it became a hit series, so I assume she learned how to grow past that belief and found a message she wanted to say in her work during those ten years.

CodfishCartographer posted:

Yeah I'm not sure either on it. The first chapter hit me hard personally, as I'm in a similar boat to how he was - been trying to get into a creative field for years with no luck, despite trying my hardest. I've had many moments where I just wanted lay on the floor and scream I QUIT just like he was about to. I think there's still a lot of potentially interesting storytelling there - either him learning what it really takes to be an artist and actually improving, or even learning to accept that he actually doesn't have what it takes and moving on with life, or even him learning how to be a successful artist through his own methods, ironically stumbling into a story only he can tell.

However, after the last chapter I'm not fully sure if it'll go that direction, or really what direction it'll go in. I'll probably keep reading, but may drop it depending on where it heads. I wasn't crazy on Agravity Boys at first, but it's definitely won me over so I'll give this it's fair chance.

The main character started out as very sympathetic but his actions so far have been really... questionable. He knows he plagiarized someone's work but he feels so bad about it you guysssss :( He tries confessing what he did to the high school girl, but she didn't believe him so that's that, I suppose. There's definitely no use showing her the time machine or the future Jump issues in question, or anything.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

You have a point in that he's not arguing that a comic shouldn't have a message. even if it still rubs me the wrong way. This being the shonen genre, I can't help but think that his declaration of making a great manga despite being unable to come up with a message will be treated like a grand dream he'll fulfill in the end, rather than a viewpoint that gets challenged and he grows out of. I guess the problem is that the directions you and the others came up with all need this to be a character development-based story, but a shonen manga, it seems to be going down the rivalry route instead.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

I have to wonder if the author of Future Ghostwriter felt that they couldn't just make a straight-up series of Aino trying to get into the manga-making business because it'd be too much like Bakuman, and so the MC and this whole mess of plagiarizing was added.

It's pretty rude of the MC to keep assuming what Aino would feel. He thought she'd want to kill him in the last chapter, and he was wrong about that. And now he thinks she'll get so hurt that she'd give up drawing manga if she ever found out the truth about what he did. His guilt is really coloring how he sees Aino.

booksnake posted:

I am also intrigued. Is it going for "there's no reason a fake can't become as good as the real thing", or will it turn out that he's just pathetically making excuses to avoid feeling like a bad person? The end of this current chapter shows he's kind of losing it already, which is entertaining in a way I don't usually associate with shonen. Bonus, Aino is cute and dumb.

I hate the MC, but it's kind of interesting how far he'll dig his own grave before it catches up to him.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

CodfishCartographer posted:

Yeah definitely. This week's chap was interesting at least, powering through what's basically a time skip and ending off fairly interestingly. We'll see where it goes but I haven't got super high hopes.

Between the timeskip and how it's already doing a "what if the machine doesn't make another future manga" plot beat, it feels like Ghostwriter got told to prepare for cancellation, or something.

The side characters keep being more interesting than the MC, too. I wanted to know more about the assistant who gave up on his dream of drawing manga until he got inspired to do so again when he read White Knight.

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

loving :lol: at Ghost Plagiarist desperately trying to make the MC not look like a massive shithead.

"No, see, he didn't spend a single yen from the millions or billions he got after an entire year of sales of White Knight. Clearly he's a good person suffering all this time from guilt. Oh, here's a winning combination for a lottery, so you can "gain" a ton of money you wouldn't feel bad spending"

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Agravity Boys

I love that Chris and Saga's first meeting is literally a shojo romance story. He's even riding a horse, like your knight in shining armor. :allears:

Me & Roboco

This one's off to a fantastic start. I laughed at the gag where they subverted the bullying friends trope from Doraemon:



amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Ytlaya posted:

I was thinking that maybe people were exaggerating about the new cop manga by Beelzebub guy, but that was actually pretty yikes (particularly the part where they're portrayed as being in the right for confiscating the phone of someone filming them). It's one thing to just have police as protagonists, but that seemed to go out of its way to directly bring up a couple controversial topics and take the police's side in them.

The start of the second chapter has the little kid learning hurting others is fun from the cops. :smith:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

Me & Roboco continues to be the best. I love how Roboco having Nappa-esque knees is a feature. :allears:

amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

CodfishCartographer posted:

Man, what the gently caress even is Ghostwriter anymore? At first I thought it might be speeding up due to looming cancelation, but I think it just has really weird pacing. It really isn't fond of building up any kind of emotional tension.

Ghostwriter somehow manages to speed up and still have nothing happening in it. There's been at least three big timeskips throughout the series and it didn't add anything interesting to the status quo. It really feels like it got told it's being cancelled soon and to wrap poo poo up.

If the author wanted us to like the MC, they failed at it. He doesn't stop to ask questions and figure out that manga-related death might be because of overwork. When he asked Aino if she was overworking herself, he took her words that she's fine at face value and didn't visit her or anything. It's like that time when he tried explaining the time travel plagiarism to Aino; he only tried it once and then didn't put in any more effort to do any better. It also doesn't help that even though he's unaware of it, plagiarizing White Knight and then trying to defeat Aino in rankings is essentially trying to crush a poor girl's dreams of working in her dream career. And if he really was the old man who got Aino interested in Jump, then he's been loving with her life from the start.

One thing the manga glosses over is how Aino started her series right when the anime for White Knight started airing. She's been under a massive disadvantage from the beginning and probably had to work even harder to get number 1 in the rankings. It also feels like there's a bit of victim blaming with Aino, I think? Her ex-editor sounded concerned about her, but he makes it sound like Aino no longer using assistants, or not answering his calls, or replacing him with a different editor was all entirely on Aino's end. In the end, he only blames himself for not trusting Aino to do her work, and not, you know, doing better at looking after her health.

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amigolupus
Aug 25, 2017

CodfishCartographer posted:

lmao apparently the tankobon for ghostwriter is changing some of the dialogue? Working on a really bad translation now

https://twitter.com/gehaSyaki/status/1290279374420193280?s=20

lovely translation of the first panel, specifically his thought bubble (since that's what changed) -
old: I’m sorry! I’m really just a lousy plagiarist.
new: I had to stupidly think it was just a dream

lovely translation of the second panel -
old: I couldn’t just blurt out “The truth is I copied a jump sent from the future”
new: If I blurted out that I had a time machine, I’d be labeled an idiot!

Soooo it seems to try and maybe be a little more sympathetic towards protag? Making him not as easily admit to just striaght-up copying, and making him feel a bit more trapped by society. My rough translation of the tweet's text itself seems to maybe more imply it might be to bring his thoughts in line with later chapters?

The tankobon release is improving the protagonist's circumstances with the unfolding plot

My japanese is rough so hopefully someone else can correct me if I'm wrong. Is this a common thing with tankobon releases?

(also the comments on that tweet joke about how it's headed towards cancelation lol)

I assume corrections in tankobon releases happen a lot. There was actually a plot point in Bakuman where a VA auditioning for the protagonists' anime used a line that was in the tankobon release, and everyone noted that the correction made more sense within the context of the scene.

But LOL at how Ghostwriter's author is so desperate to retcon the MC from being an unlikable shithead.

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