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Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
New weapons! Cool new ships! A sweet new super-powerful ally!

Oh god it's all going to get totally hosed up isn't it. :ohdear:

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Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Yeah the election arc was seriously great and just made me like Ging more because it brought him down from the typical untouchable pedestal a lot of comics put their rarely-seen-hero-mentor-figures on, and was funny as hell too. Also the gang running the gently caress away from nen zombies.

A lot of us would be less salty about HxH if it just wasn't so drat good. I've never read YKK, does it hold up even today?

Pierson fucked around with this message at 08:15 on Mar 31, 2014

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
See also Oh My Goddess which I hear is actually ending after what, thirty years and is pretty legendary for the main couple never so much as kissing.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice

Nate RFB posted:

They kissed a few times! It just never went beyond that, which wound getting a really silly hand wave excuse in the final arc.
Hahaha what was it? Would he die if he got a boner or something?

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice

Nate RFB posted:

Heaven basically sealed his sexual drive to prevent procreation between humans and gods. I couldn't stop laughing.
That's amazing.


Chillyrabbit posted:

Delete oh gently caress I'm stupid and didn't read the thread.

Well While I'm here any magic and sword shounen mangas to recommend?
Magi is fun and has not yet ascended up it's own rear end in a top hat.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
It stays that way in that the nen system is a huge part of the series and like JoJo's Stands it gives a solid background to powers to make them all internally consistent and to give the fights more depth than 'throw a bigger fireball'.

The York Shin arc is immediately after Battle Tower I think and that's a top-tier arc so if you can read through that to find out how badly the system will affect your enjoyment.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Man someone put up a one-chapter interest check for the Banner of the Stars manga and all it did was remind me how much I want more Stars stuff. :(

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
It's been fifteen or so years since I last saw the series but I read that chapter and I remember how much I liked it. Were the novels ever translated? They were actual novels right, not LN garbage? I didn't even know there was a fourth volume, never mind a fifth.

I'm tempted to go back to the series but I'm not sure whether it's something I should revisit or just keep my memories of and let go.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Long ago did I stop getting mad about X series having insane success and Y series being kicked to the curb but yeah, it's a drat shame. Younger me found Jinto and Lafiel totally compelling and pitch-perfect as two young people growing up and slowly finding each other.

I do remember the end of Banner 3 was both incredibly sad on one hand with but quite hopeful on the other and did work as a pretty good finale. I think I'll go check it out again.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Here's something quaint that could get better but so far is an easy read: New Saga. It's fairly standard low-fantasy, but the gimmick is the first chapter is the end of the story, with the Demon Lord beaten. It was an incredibly pyrrhic victory though with everyone dead and the hero dying too. The dude finds one last device to send him back four years in time to when he was literally the archetypical Slacking Young Boy In A Nice Little Village. The good part is that he's pretty intelligent and he realises instantly what he can do, and starts to sequence-break the world as hard as he can.

There's a bit more T&A than I'd like but the idea is a nice one and it's already had one really good moment: The hero knows where a labyrinth full of money is which they're gonna need to gear up, so he goes after it. Since he knows literally everything about the place instead of going through all the magic traps and monsters like the first time around he just digs through the side of the mountain directly into the treasure-room.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
The vengeance-murder-is-legal thing sounds like it was ripped straight out of Freesia, which did treat it as incredibly hosed up and the people who did it as incredibly broken people.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
There's definitely been a change since the start of the series and I think as he's drawn more and his style has changed he's lost something. Earlier on it felt like each character got their own distinct style when they were in focus that helped really characterise them.

Look at Killua there, from the way he's drawn he almost looks like Hisoka; the same kind of expression, more shading (especially around the eyes) and thinner, more complex lineart that makes him look more like a villain. That totally sells Killuas character from what we knew of him at that point. When he got mad he got vicious. His dad was drawn the same in his first appearance.

Gon is much more 'protagonist-y'. big eyes, much stronger lines and simpler shapes (that huge block of hair) and a big goofy smile. When he's mad instead of being thinner and more drawn-out he becomes even simpler and blockier (his eyes just become huge dark holes), nuance and complexity vanishing even further from his character because that is who he is: A really simple person who gets SUPER-MAD sometimes.

Kurapika is drawn more similar to Killua but where Killua's hair is the more traditional 'coolguy spiky' Kurapika's overall haircut is more rounded, which is a much more aesthetically-friendly shape. Like Gon he has big 'good guy'-eyes and that makes perfect sense because his eyes are a huge part of his character and his primary motivation. The baggy cothes - almost robes - imply a more mystical and therefore calmer character than the regular clothes of the other main characters and from day one that's exactly what he is.

Leorio is the adult member of the troupe and the voice of realism/reason. He's in a black suit and carries around a briefcase.

In conclusion even if I preferred his older art style, Togashi is great and HxH remains a god-tier comic because of everything Bad Seafood talked about.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice

Ytlaya posted:

Medaka Box is bad, right? I'm looking for some fun shounen battle comic to read.
It started out extremely bad as a thinly-veiled copy of Haruhi, turned into a battle manga when that didn't work, and then descended/ascended into total insanity. I can't remember at what point that transition starts though.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Is the war arc immediately after the magician-city arc with Anime Gandalf? I remember dropping Magi about then because the entire arc seemed headed towards an obvious conclusion and I got bored waiting for the reveals I knew were coming.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
It starts off fairly grounded: Boy with big dreams uses plausible excuse to take part in future-rollerblading subculture and shows himself a natural, while surrounded by various archetypical friends and busty women. Then it began to descend into total madness, power escalation, and bullshit mid-season-upgrade asspulls.

Exactly like Tenjou Tenge, basically. I mean for me it started off great but when the stakes got higher than "underground skate team tries to win local championship" and the side-characters were turned from entertaining people into one-joke paper cut-outs I tuned out.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
The new Promised Neverland nails a whole chapter in a single page.

Emma doesn't play around, gently caress.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
How are we defining 'bad' fanservice these days though? Just out-of-place T&A in scenes it has no reason to be in, camera angles that emphasise T&A over important things, or actual skeevy stuff like that one comic about the shrine girl/ghost-clothes whose name I don't care to recall?

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice

DrSunshine posted:

I think this would be actually an interesting topic of discussion for a thread. We've had some unusual, non-series megathread, non-"Just for fun" type threads over the years (like "What is slice of life?" ) and I think it'd be interesting to revisit such topics.
TVIV and CineD often have threads focusing on eras, genres, or aspects of film-making all the time so that sounds cool. Fanservice specifically might be a lot of work for mods though since with a topic like that would probably have to be policed more heavily than your average ADTRW thread to keep the bullshit to a minimum.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
I think it helps that even though it's 'slow' they're still making progress with something every chapter, and now there's a big solid deadline to keep anticipation high.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Anime Girl Hitler and Anime Fat Hitler both got what was coming them imho.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice

Irritated Goat posted:

I finished the anime and near the end, I was waiting to see who died next cause the show just enjoyed murdering people in horrible ways. :sigh: I kind of liked the cast otherwise which makes it kind of sad.
Everyone with a personality died but at least Eyepatch Punished Snake lived.

edit; i'm an idiot and you said 'anime' but the manga really did kill anyone who was slightly cool and left us with Swordgirl and Punchboy, if I read it right (first thirty or so chapters and last two).

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Cultural inertia I guess? It's still at the end of the day a magazine (can it even be called that? Isn't it phonebook-sized or something in print?) for children. Or at least parents who buy it for their children to shut them up. :v:

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Since we're detouring into World Trigger chat I dropped that series when it felt like instead of exploring the huge setting on their doorstep they instead spent their time bitching, arguing and fighting inside their organization hierarchy. Did I make the correct choice?

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Eyeshield 21 spoiled me on pretty much all other sports comics. :(

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
I should get around to reading Kenshin on day.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
A picture of Charlie Brown running at the football Lucy is holding but Lucy is labelled TO YOU THE IMMORTAL and Charlie Browns T-shirt says THE READERS

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Promised Neverland has shown us very clearly what the destination is and it'll probably be at least as fun as the journey when they get there.

We're like four mini-journeys into TYTL now, which have had more or less the same scenery, and the destination is still unknown.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
uhoh

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Wasn't the gimmick that they never ever interacted between their confession at the start and marriage at the end? A conceit that will surely make us care about the central romantic relationship of the series.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
The real romance was actually between boys and manga, with all the girls being side-chicks, so it's fine.

edit; Bakumen had some WEIRD romantic sub-plots, if you could even call them romance. Like the woman who was thirsted over by the comic-relief lazy man and the fat man-child whose character arc was a line straight down basically, and the other main character who married his friend for errrrr reasons? Taxes or something?

Pierson fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Apr 17, 2017

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
That combo did Death Note which had like three female characters tops and some other stuff I've vaguely heard of, most of which is shounen. One of them is a woman though I think?

Ignorance rather than malice maybe? I know nothing about the demographic trends of who reads Shounen Jump but I can't imagine authors who work primarily for young boys have any reason to learn how to write women or any compulsion to get better at it.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice

Ytlaya posted:

At the very least it's better than that other WSJ harem series with the ghost girl.


that one is just 'tits; the manga' though

edit; if she's a ghost girl how does he grab em!?

Pierson fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Apr 17, 2017

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Being a ghost in anime sounds pretty cool so long as you're a shounen gently caress ghost and not some weird seinen blood monster.

Ytlaya posted:

I vaguely remember some other manga where this guy moves into an apartment with a ghost girl and they just gently caress constantly. In that manga she was semi-tangible; he could feel her but if he applied any real pressure he would pass through her.
I think I know that one. There's like a ton of manhwas on batoto etc now that have cool covers but inside have mediocre art and the whole 'massive amounts of white space' thing that manhwas like to do. Half of them are straight-up porn and the other half are wuxia/cultivator stuff.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Are there any decent gay rom-coms?

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
dr stone fuckin rules

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Isn't one of the reasons series turn into battle mangas is because their ratings fail and the editor demands quick fixes, one of which is usually 'more battles'? I vaguely remember this was what happened to Medaka Box? It isn't as if Jump is strictly opposed to non-fighting or more complex manga if they sell well, and direct combat isn't the only kind of conflict kids will read.

I can see Promised Neverland turning more into a 'battle' manga as the kids have to outsmart, sneak and plan their way through hostile territory with extremely limited equipment and incredibly malicious opposition, but turning it into a straight-up fisticuffs comic feels impossible given the setup and characters involved.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
Medaka ruled when they let it off the leash.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
What else has successfully changed gears like that (in either direction) besides Medaka Box? Apparently Ken Akamatsu always wanted Negi to be a battle manga but was forced to start as pervy school hijinks and he switched it gradually enough either his editors didn't notice until it was too late or he brought them around to his side. Not that the pervy school hijinks ever ended they just became a backdrop and running gag to a space-magic adventure.

Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
I don't know if anyone else reads it but Kingdom of Gems has been throwing out some serious plot in the last few chapters and it's still really good, albeit definitely not for everybody.

If you liked some of the general themes of Nier Automata (human creations dealing with themselves and their goals in a world where humanity is long gone), give it a shot.

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Pierson
Oct 31, 2004



College Slice
It's hard to tell from just a trailer but it looks great.

Also I didn't notice until someone in the comments pointed it out but (latest chapter minor spoiler) the moon buildings are made of Bismuth and that's such a nice touch.

Pierson fucked around with this message at 23:40 on May 16, 2017

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