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I just watched this for the first time since I was a kid. I really liked episodes 25-26 more then EoE even though EoE has that trippy "Fantastic Planet" vibe going for it. It occured to me on re-watch that the angels don't seem to come from space but live on/in the Earth. Or perhaps start spawning on Earth after the second impact.
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So is the last scene in EoE meant to be a subversion of the Master-Slave dialectic?
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Jun 29, 2019 08:27
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Ogmius815 posted:
Yeah it's obviously just someone reading off a script without any knowledge of what German actually sounds like. Not the wierdest translation I've seen in Netflix anime. I was watching Kuromukuro and everyone is astonished that the ancient Japanese Samurai character can speak English, even though most of the characters are Japanese and the story is set in Japan. Then there was a scene where a character was quoting from the Book of Chivalry in the originial French, except is was dubbed in English while the Japanese translation in Kanji flashed up on the screen and all the characters amazed that the character spoke French. That was confusing as gently caress.
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Jul 1, 2019 05:06
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tbp posted:i've been having a lot of trouble contextualizing the choking scenes from eoe in my head. i can't quite figure out what they're supposed to mean. Like I mentioned earlier it's a subversion of the Master-Slave dialectic. upon emerging from the soup Shinji and Asuka re-establish their sense of individual selves in recognition of the other. The death struggle ensues and Asuka wins as she doesn't care about her own life to the extent that she finds Shinji's ultimate need for her existence to be "disgusting" (even while Asuka is equally dependent on Shinji for her own recognition of self). Here the narrative ends and we're left to wonder what happens next. Does the dialectic continue as Hegel outlined with Shinji becoming slave and Asuka the master? Or does their experience as part of the universal Human soup godhead fundamentally alter their relationship with one another and their ability to recognize their own existence within one another? After all they have both "been" one another while in soup form, are they at this point still different people in any meaningful sense?
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Jul 2, 2019 04:51
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The REAL Goobusters posted:I think the biggest realization for me on this rewatch is how much of a monster Misato (and Ritsuko for that matter) is. She cares about Shinji when it’s convenient for her, towards the end she tries to cheer him up by making a sexual advance, but throughout the whole series she’s been very cold and ordering him to get into the Eva again and again. Culminating with EoE where she convinces him one final time, without thinking about all of the hosed up poo poo he’s gone through. Shinji almost kills toji and then is ordered to kill Kaworu which just sends him on an awful mental breakdown. After his conversation with Misato, right after he kills Kaworu, Misato doesn’t even try to comfort him and this scares Shinji. Rei 3 is basically a whole new person and that scares Shinji too so the only person he can turn to that he knows is Asuka. Misato is heinous. Shinji has enough self awareness to realise that isolating himself from others is causing him anguish even though it spares him pain. From the very first episode Misato conflates Shinji's fear of relationships with his fear of piloting a crazy death robot, and makes him feel guilty about his totally healthy and reasonable instincts screaming at him to get the gently caress out this hosed up abusive situation.
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Jul 3, 2019 01:33
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Sinteres posted:Everyone being hard on Misato is kind of leaving out the part where if she doesn't manipulate him into getting into the robot he and everyone else dies as humanity is wiped out. Maybe there was a more competent approach someone who wasn't also personally broken could have taken to managing Shinji's trauma, but keeping him out of the robot wasn't really an option. If you ever reach the point where you're relying on traumatised 14 year olds to fight alien demigods then you're already dead.
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Jul 3, 2019 03:09
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SHISHKABOB posted:This kind of feels like we're getting into the "tactical realism" frame of mind. Why does Pen-Pen appear inside the human instrumentality project in episode 26 when he isn't a Human?
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Jul 3, 2019 03:20
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There's a pretty good recap blog series over at Mubi for those interested: https://mubi.com/notebook/posts/neon-genesis-evangelion-episodes-1-4-the-trauma-of-shinji-ikari
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