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Hall is a great pick but poo poo man over Stamkos?
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Apr 9, 2013 19:45
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Edit: Talking about picks not made yet.
RC Cola fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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Apr 9, 2013 19:48
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Verviticus posted:taylor hall really really owns and it's funny to see all these people who dont get that He's very good, but he's not "better than Stamkos and (players I will not name because I pick after the next guy)"
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Apr 9, 2013 19:48
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elmer fud posted:hopefully this guy edits his post hey that's cool, let the next guy know who I wanted to pick in case he forgot about him, thanks man i owe you one Paulocaust fucked around with this message at 20:00 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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Apr 9, 2013 19:49
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Yeah, new rule - no talking about upcoming picks? Talk about picks that have, I don't know, already happened?
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Apr 9, 2013 19:54
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Good rule. NO MENTIONING UNDRAFTED PLAYERS. Only discuss current picks and in context of previous ones.
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Apr 9, 2013 19:57
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Paulocaust posted:hey that's cool, let the next guy know who I wanted to pick in case he forgot about him, thanks man i owe you one Edited whoops
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Apr 9, 2013 20:01
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taylor hall is not as good as sidney crosby. and uh, nothing else.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:01
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Austrian mook posted:Hall is a great pick but poo poo man over Stamkos? The thing is, since he can't trade a pick he needs to pick the player he wants now. If he wanted Taylor Hall there was no way he would get Taylor Hall at the end of the 2nd round.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:02
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Taylor Hall is good as hell, I don't think anyone is denying that, but there's no way I'm taking him in the top 5 of a draft like this. He's not even the best player in his general age group.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:04
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We should probably stop talking about that player that hasn't been drafted yet.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:05
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Spamtron7000 posted:The thing is, since he can't trade a pick he needs to pick the player he wants now. If he wanted Taylor Hall there was no way he would get Taylor Hall at the end of the 2nd round. Yeah. I'm ok with someone wanting to build their team around a guy who has two memorial cup MVPs and was an absolute monster in those playoff runs. I'm very excited to see what he can do with Edmonton if they finally make the playoffs in a few years. e: VVVV or that. Jordan7hm fucked around with this message at 20:12 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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Apr 9, 2013 20:07
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maybe he's going for a cup THIS YEAR and wants hall's ELC?
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Apr 9, 2013 20:08
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Welp, see you guys with my pick in ten hours. (this is why we should have shorter picking times)
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Apr 9, 2013 20:20
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Paulocaust posted:Welp, see you guys with my pick in ten hours. It hasn't been too long man. But yeah we can make pick times six hours and if you don't think you can make yours, provide a list. After he picks we will change that rule. I PMed him.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:23
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If you make pick times 6 hours you need to give time for people to sleep, especially if we're spread out between PST-EST. I know you can send in lists, but at some point you'll get to a pick at 2 AM, and even if the next few have submitted a list you'll eventually hit someone without a list who isn't going to wake up before 8 AM in whatever time zone.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:27
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Six hours is rough, I'm sure I'd get stuck with a window of like 1:15 AM - 7:15 AM somehow. Also, are any of the Euro guys who post in the hockey threads playing? They're obviously going to be on different schedule.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:29
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eXXon posted:If you make pick times 6 hours you need to give time for people to sleep, especially if we're spread out between PST-EST. Can we wait more than say, 3 picks and an hour to modify the drafting rules? Chill out bros.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:29
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The scrum-diddly-umptious Los Angeles Kings and all of your ladies agree to the rules.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:30
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True. Alright we will stick with 12 hours on the hope that most picks will be made fairly quickly.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:30
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eXXon posted:If you make pick times 6 hours you need to give time for people to sleep, especially if we're spread out between PST-EST. In another draft, this was addressed by having a nighttime grace period in which your countdown clock stopped ticking, so you had a few hours in the day in which to make your pick, but at night, your time would stand still from like, 12-8am EST or something like that, unless you chose to make the pick during the grace period.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:30
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i think slow and uncomplicated is good enough
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Apr 9, 2013 20:32
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No harm in waiting to see how the first round shakes out before we go and change things.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:34
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eXXon posted:I'm curious as to what you think Hall is going to do better than Stamkos because 'score goals' doesn't seem to be it. Hit more and be injured more or something? Well, before I begin, I think it's really difficult to make the case for Hall at the moment, mostly because Stamkos is the one that is only a season removed from 60 goals, and has continually put up 90+ point seasons since his second season, and would probably break that mark if this were a full season. However, a few things went into my decision: 1. Hall is a top-5 pick in this sort of draft, and I am really surprised about the response to this. Hall is already an elite player, and is on the verge of becoming that much better. (for reference, I like this blog post: http://blogs.edmontonjournal.com/2013/04/09/taylor-hall-is-now-one-of-the-best-players-in-hockey/) 2. Would you buy the team argument? As in, Stamkos has St. Louis to play with, whereas Edmonton has a glut of young guys all battling for their position on the team. I don't really think of Eberle as highly as others do, and I really think that Hall is a clear step above his teammates, and as he grows, so will the team's fortunes. I realize this makes it seem like I think Stamkos is a product of St. Louis (he isn't), but more so that I think it's a bit more difficult to see Hall's ability. 3. Contracts were a factor. Stamkos is already signed to a 7.5mil deal for three more years (well, I guess four within this draft), and after that, what? He's going to be, if he maintains this level of excellence, the highest paid player in the league. Hall has one more year on his ELC, and then is signed to a $6 million cap hit until after the 19-20 season. It's already a great deal, but it will be an absolute bargain soon. 4. I think I mentioned this in my post, but I really think that this will look like a better pick next year. For some reason, Hall is grossly underappreciated, and I am not sure why. I think it has something to do with injuries limiting his playing time, which has the illusion that they are worse than they actually are (Plus, if we are looking at goal scoring, I don't think Hall is a slug. No one in the league, other than the version of Ovie of old can score like Stamkos. But, it's not like Hall is terrible. I can see him topping out as a 40-goal guy). Plenty of people were questioning the decision to sign him to that extension last summer, mostly because of the price. I think Hall has silenced those critics. Next year, he's gonna take the next step, and he's gonna own bones and everyone will be like "oh man, I really wish I didn't doubt Twin Cinema's brilliance at drafting. Let's anoint him our SAS god!" Of course, I will graciously decline that honour, but just you wait. 5. He isn't going to be around when I pick next, and it also kinda came down to personal preference. I saw it as too close to call, so I went with my gut instinct.
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Apr 9, 2013 20:36
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 We're going to control what we can control. Things will fall where they may. 
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Apr 9, 2013 21:53
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 I think the main thing here moving forward is we're looking for players that are good character guys who fit onto our hockey team, and if the price is heavy then we're still going to be willing to pay it because you can't put a price on finding the right fits for your hockey club.
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Apr 9, 2013 22:06
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hmmm how does one tank in a fantasy draft hmmm
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Apr 9, 2013 22:07
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We really need to draft coaches too that would be hella rad. Maybe make up a separate draft order for coaches and do that after this part of the draft is concluded? Coaches have such a huge amount to do with how a team performs.
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Apr 9, 2013 22:15
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T-Bone posted:hmmm how does one tank in a fantasy draft hmmm Only draft players still on their ELCs.
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Apr 9, 2013 22:16
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Apr 9, 2013 22:17
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Vigilance posted:We really need to draft coaches too that would be hella rad. Maybe make up a separate draft order for coaches and do that after this part of the draft is concluded? Coaches have such a huge amount to do with how a team performs. Believe we're gonna do supplemental for coaches/unsigned + undrafted folks after the big show if everyone isn't sick of this by then
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Apr 9, 2013 22:17
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 The people of Minnesota know the hockey they want, and we're here to give it to them as a championship contender. I've surrounded myself with a crowd of minds that will put together a strong cohesive roster full of exemplary players to compete in the National Hockey League.
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Apr 9, 2013 22:20
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 Why don't you take a seat? It's time for To Draft A Predator
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Apr 9, 2013 22:38
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I am proud to announce that not only is Tumbling Ryan Kesler off the IR he's accepted the role of honourary GM of the Columbus Blue Jackets this year! I mostly chose him because I'd never seen Doughty doing the wanker motion before and it's great This is a snaking draft so I have picks 30 and 31 right?
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Apr 9, 2013 22:41
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Yes.
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Apr 9, 2013 22:45
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Two more people should join so we can see what it would be like in the world of 32 NHL teams. Add the Nordiques and the Seattle Metropolitans to the end of the draft order while you still can. (Note, I am not volunteering for this because I do not trust my ability in evaluating players based on skill, contract length, and/or value.)
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Apr 9, 2013 22:57
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To represent the Tampa Bay Lightning we have this ridiculously 90's alternate jersey. Edit: Also we're going to draft players. Players who play hockey. Drafting hockey players is a process. If you draft a hockey player on Monday, you can also draft one on Tuesday. And you can build on that. Chairman Wao fucked around with this message at 23:05 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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Apr 9, 2013 22:58
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Our strategy is to spend money on the right player at the right price.
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Apr 9, 2013 23:01
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 Things will be different, NYI fans.
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Apr 9, 2013 23:15
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I've never seen a picture of Kevin Cheveldayoff, so another native son will have to do. Southern expansion, stay away from me, Southern expansion, momma let me be.... Boomer The Cannon fucked around with this message at 23:26 on Apr 9, 2013 |
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