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mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!


Welcome to the world of Nippon Professional Baseball
Professional baseball started in Japan in 1936, under the name "Japan Occupational Baseball League". It would change its name twice more, once to "Japanese Professional Baseball" in 1939, and finally to "Nippon Professional Baseball" (NPB) in 1950. In NPB there are 12 teams divided into two leagues, the Pacific League, and the Central League, each team playing between 130 and 140 regular games, before the best three in each league play in the Climax Series, before finally advancing to the Japan Series. The main difference between NPB and MLB is that if a game goes beyond 12 innings, or goes too late into the night(they apparently stopped doing this) it is called a tie. The post-season allows 15 innings.

So what are the teams?
As I said, there are 12 teams in two leagues. First let's look at the Central League, which plays by NL rules (no DH, pitcher hits).


Chunichi Dragons

The Dragons are owned by the Chunichi Shimbun (newspaper). They play in the Nagoya Dome in Nagoya, Aichi prefecture. They are 8-time CL champions, and 2-time Japan Series Champions.

Hanshin Tigers

The Tigers are owned by Hanshin Electric Railway. They play in Koshien Stadium in Nishinomiya, Hyogo prefecture, near Kobe. Though their park is near Kobe, they are more thought of as an Osaka team. Koshien Stadium is also where the famous Koshien High School Baseball Tournament takes place. It is also one of only 3 Japanese parks with natural grass, and one of the only remaining parks in which Babe Ruth played. Their rivals are the Yomiuri Giants. The Tigers have won 5 CL titles, and 1 Japan Series Title. Ryan Vogelsong and Cecil Fielder both played for the Tigers.

Hiroshima Toyo Carp

The Carp are owned by the Matsuda family, founders of Mazda. They play in the MAZDA Zoom-Zoom Stadium Hiroshima (more boringly known as Hiroshima Municipal Stadium), in Minami-ku, Hiroshima prefecture. As of the last decade or so, they are sort of like the Astros of the NPB in that they have been the team farthest from any sort of title. In 2006 they employed a Baseball Dog named Mickey to bring balls to and from the umpire. The Carp have won 6 CL titles, and 3 Japan Series titles. Hiroki Kuroda and Alfonso Soriano both played for the Carp.

Tokyo Yakult Swallows

The Swallows are owned by Yakult, makers of drinkable yogurt. They play in Meiji Jingu Stadium in Shinjuku, Tokyo. It is the second oldest stadium in Japan, and Babe Ruth also played here. The Swallows have won 6 CL titles (most recently in 2011), and 5 Japan Series titles. Norichika Aoki played for the Swallows.

Yokohama DeNA BayStars

The BayStars are owned by DeNA Co., Ltd.. They play at Yokohama Stadium in Yokohama. They have won 2 Japan Series Titles. This is their mascot.


Yomiuri Giants

The Giants are owned by the Yomiuri Shimbun. They are the Japanese team, and are often compared to the Yankees. They are the oldest Japanese team, and play in the Tokyo Dome in Bunkyo, Tokyo. The dome is always closed. Field rules state that if a ball gets caught in the rafters it is to be considered a home run. Their name and uniform are modeled after the New York Giants. The Giants have won 33 CL titles, and 24 Japan Series titles; they won the 2012 Japan Series. Koji Uehara and Hideki Matsui played for the Giants; Sadaharu Oh, the holder of the world career home run record (868) played his entire career with the Giants.
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Then comes the Pacific league, which plays by AL rules.

Chiba Lotte Marines

The Marines are owned by the Lotte conglomerate. They play in Chiba Marine Stadium in Chiba City. They have won 5 PL titles, and 4 Japan Series titles.

Fukuoka SoftBank Hawks

The Hawks are owned by the SoftBank Corporation. They play in the Fukuoka Yafuoku! Dome in Chuo-ku, Fukuoka. They have won 15 PL titles, and 5 Japan Series titles.

Hokkaido Nippon-Ham Fighters

The Fighters are owned by Nippon-Ham. They play in the Sapporo Dome, in Sapporo, Hokkaido. The Sapporo Dome has an absurd amount of foul territory.

The Fighters have won 5 PL titles, and 2 Japan Series titles. Kensuke Tanaka and Yu Darvish played for the Fighters.

Orix Buffaloes

The Buffaloes are owned by the Orix Group. They play in the Osaka Dome in Nishi-ku, Osaka. Opposite of the Tigers, though their park is in Osaka, they are known as a Kobe team. In their history, the Buffaloes have won 16 PL titles, and 4 Japan Series titles. A number os notable players have come from the Buffaloes to the MLB, including Ryan Vogelsong, Hideo Nomo, and Ichiro .

Saitama Seibu Lions

The Lions are owned by the Seibu Group. They play in the Seibu Dome in Tokorozawa, Saitama. The Lions have won 21 PL titles, and 13 Japan Series titles. Daisuke Matsuzaka and Kazuo Matsui both played for the Lions, with Matsui being the first Japanese infielder to play in the MLB.

Tohoku Rakuten Golden Eagles

The Eagles are owned by Rakuten. A very new team, the Eagles were formed in 2004 after the Buffaloes and BlueWave merged, leaving an empty space in the Pacific League. They normally play in the Miyagi Baseball Stadium in Sendai, but the terrible 2011 earthquake damaged it, and they are temporarily at Hotto Motto Field Kobe, at the opposite end of the country. The Eagles haven't won any sort of title. Kazuo Matsui currently plays for the Eagles.

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Why are the teams named after companies?
This is apparently because franchising rules aren't as rigid as they are in the Major League, however many teams have added their location to their team name to attempt to gain more support from local fans.

So why should I care?
Because Japanese baseball is a lot of fun. The level of competition and skill is somewhere between the MLB and AAA. It also gives you the chance to maybe see the next Ichiro or Yu Darvish before they get to the MLB.
There's also these guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FGFWXtSNFg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjiH9voAloc
The fans at these games are awesome. They all have chants for every player, some are more awesome than others, but the fact that it happens at all is amazing.

Ok, you may have convinced me. So how can I watch it?
That's the tricky part. As far as I know there isn't any official way to watch these games outside of being in Japan. One way I've found somewhat reliable is justin.tv. If you search for baseball there, or sports channels that are in Japanese (日本語), there will usually be one or two channels with a game on.

This guy has games on sometimes (usually Buffaloes), and there are a few recorded games if you check his previous videos: http://www.justin.tv/ralph_25251

Crovie posted:

For watching games, @spartiecat occasionally posts streaming links. Past links usually work for future games too (until the account gets banned)

There's also this japanese stream aggregator, which usually fills up with streams when games are going on. Unfortunately some of them are passworded but a lot aren't. (EDIT 8/9/14): Since justin.tv shut down, that site has significantly less baseball. You might get lucky and find a kyudo stream or something tthough.


Standings:
http://bis.npb.or.jp/eng/2013/standings/


Other Stuff:
NPB English Site: http://www.npb.or.jp/eng/
This image has lots of interesting information about NPB (as of 2011):

SporkOfTruth posted:

Some other links of interest on Japanese baseball in English:
  • Yakyu Baka - run by Gen Sueyoshi, has great translations of post-game summaries/news tidbits from the major Japanese sport sites, and also covers the rest of Japanese baseball as a whole (high school, college, industrial leagues, the NPB's minor leagues).
  • Japanese Baseball - A long running (since 1995!) site run by Michael Westbay that has a forum, team blogs, and the only (as far as I know) place to get raw NPB stats in English. Also hosts the Japan Baseball Weekly Podcast hosted by John E. Gibson and Jim Allen.
  • NPB Tracker - Patrick Newman's blog that has some good insights into NPB. Also has a velocity tracker stat page (which isn't pulling data correctly at the moment, but is great for historical pitch data).
  • Japan Ball - Bob Bavasi's site that's mostly an ad for his NPB-oriented travel service. Decent daily news translations, an English language media guide that's available for purchase.
Since I'm a Yakult Swallows fan, I also regularly read Tokyo Swallows, a good English language blog solely dedicated to the Swallows. I think there might be some other single-team blogs, but I can't remember them off the top of my head.

Batflips:


If anyone has more places to watch games, or other information, post it or send it to me and I'll throw it up here.
If anybody has stuff on other international baseball, feel free to send it to me and I'll put it up here.

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mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Places to watch the baseball. (Updated 8/9/14)

http://hibox3612.blogspot.tw/2012/02/blog-post.html | http://japan0002.chatango.com/ - This site has links to most all of the games every day. However, the team names may be in Chinese, and most of the streams seem to have Korean audio.

http://tv.pacificleague.jp/ - the mlb.tv equivalent for the Pacific League. However, if you are some sort of lousy foreigner, good luck getting an account.

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mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Smoking Crow posted:

I need to know if there's a team in Japan that have been bad for a while, but used to be really good. As a Pirates fan, it's all I know.

The Carp did really good from like '75 to '91, and now they're one of the worst team in Japan, if not THE worst.

OrangeKing posted:

I was going to ask why the standings in previous years had so many ties -- I knew the 12-inning rule, but that shouldn't ever give a team 15 ties in a 144 game season -- but I didn't know the "or if the game goes too late" rule. That makes the standings a little more sensible.

It's so fans won't miss the last train home.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Crovie posted:

For watching games, @spartiecat occasionally posts streaming links. Past links usually work for future games too (until the account gets banned)

There's also this japanese stream aggregator, which usually fills up with streams when games are going on. Unfortunately some of them are passworded but a lot aren't.

Central League games are usually pretty easy to find but some Pacific League teams don't have many or any people streaming.


The time rule was put into place for two seasons following the earthquake to conserve power (games were called if the inning ended after 3h30m) but it seems to have been rescinded - the Chiba Lotte Marines started this season with back to back 12th inning walkoff wins which both took nearly five hours.

The game time led to a funny situation last year where, with the game tied in the bottom of the 10th inning with 3:25 on the game clock, a Lotte player took a lap around the catcher and ump after every pitch because the other team was at the top of their batting order and Lotte were in the middle. Unfortunately the inning ended up ending with 3:29 elapsed so it went to the 11th where they lost.

Oh, cool. I'll update the OP with this stuff! Thanks!

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Apparently if you have Dish you can get One World Sports, which broadcasts all Yomiuri Giants home games.
http://www.oneworldsports.com/about/

I also added SporkOfTruth's links to the OP.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Hey everyone.
There are some games streaming right now.
Here is Giants v. Dragons: http://www.justin.tv/ralph_25251#/w/5300588864 or http://www.justin.tv/hideki1179#/w/5300570432
Ham Fighters v. Hawks: http://www.justin.tv/gyon_hd602ch#/w/5300564704
BayStars v. Swallows: http://www.justin.tv/yoh12345
Eagles v. Marines: http://www.justin.tv/akichan2#/w/5300419920/2

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

The stream that had Yokohama DeNA just switched to Buffaloes v. Lions.
Top of the 9th though. 1-1
http://www.justin.tv/akichan2#/w/5300419920/9

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Holy poo poo, I didn't realize that the Giants haven't lost a home game in three years.

I'm also glad that Kenta Maeda is doing good. I liked him a lot in the WBC.

Does anybody know where one could get NPB stuff besides eBay or having a friend in Japan? If such a place exists.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Velcro is fine with me, though I definitely assumed that Japanese baseball goods would be 2-3 times what the American equivalent would be.
I definitely saw a Buffaloes store when I was wandering aimlessly around Kobe, but I never went in to see how marvelously expensive everything was.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Also known as Industrial League.
Unless that's something different and I'm completely wrong. That is a very real possibility.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

The Curse of the Colonel is one of my favorite Baseball Things.
It's up there somewhere with the Bat Theft Incident.

Anyway, games should be starting in a couple hours, so I will try to find some streams to throw up here, if I'm still awake then.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

I know it's the middle of the night/morning, but if for some reason you're awake still, here is some awesome baseball on right now.
Hawks @ Eagles: http://www.justin.tv/akichan2#/w/5421038160/4 || http://www.justin.tv/gyon_hd602ch#/w/5421469536
Tigers @ Giants : http://www.justin.tv/barutan4#/w/5421354480/2 || http://www.justin.tv/hideki1179#/w/5421357488/2 (Go Tigers!)
Carp @ BayStars: http://www.justin.tv/athleticsch07#/w/5421512448

All 3 at once: http://www.justin.tv/chinchikurin#/w/5421568032

e: Marines @ Ham Fighters: http://www.justin.tv/masa2012_s#/w/5420812416/6 (Go Fighters!)

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mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

4/19 Streams (as of 2AM PST):

Giants v. Carp: http://www.justin.tv/chinchikurin#/w/5430457568
Dragons v. BayStars: http://www.justin.tv/oigatsuo_tsuyu#/w/5430485472

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Tonight there is Japanese baseball on at a reasonable hour!

Tigers v. BayStars: http://www.justin.tv/hideki1179#/w/5517235456 | http://www.justin.tv/yoh12345#/w/5517280224 | http://www.justin.tv/athleticsch07#/w/5517342048
Hawks v. Marines: http://www.justin.tv/gyon_hd602ch#/w/5516920864/3

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

The Tigers are awesome.
Good choice in Yakyuu Squad!

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Hawks v. Lions: http://justin.tv/gyon_hd602ch

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Monicro posted:

No offense to mikeycp, but is there anywhere that does more in-depth overviews of all the teams? I want to find a team to root for but I'm flying blind here.

(who am I kidding I'm going to end up rooting for the baystars because of their mascot )

No offense taken. I'm definitely not pretending to be an authority on NPB.
If you or anyone else finds such an in-depth site, a link is going right up in the OP.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

factorialite posted:

That batflip in the OP is sublime and I'm doing that in softball today if I can manage it.

What's the historically worst team in NPB? I'd like to cheer for a team, but it's gotta be the Cubs equivalent if possible.

The Carp are pretty bad. For a while they've been the team farthest from winning any sort of title. From 1975 to 1991 or so they were doing pretty good, and actually winning pennants, and even a couple consecutive Japan Series, but everything before or after that period has been pretty miserable. Lately they haven't been able to get above 3rd in their division.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

So, this happened in Japan's version of today.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWC1yIzLHzU

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Well, I guess I know what I'm not doing tonight. (Sleeping)

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

It wouldn't be the first time NPB has done something like that (this year).

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Go here is you want to watch Japanese high schoolers throw 200 pitch games! (Summer Koshien)

http://koshien.asahi.co.jp/live/live.html

e: Have a schedule for the whole tournament too.
http://yakyubaka.com/2013/08/05/852...the-tournament/

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mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Tonight at Koshien: The pitcher from 鳴門高校 (Naruto High School) has thrown 120+ pitches by the 8th inning, and they are winning 12-1.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

I think it's also important to note that while Sadaharu Oh's record stood for 49 years, Balentien's only stood for about 30 minutes...because he hit number 57.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

If you know when it is, check the streams in the OP.
With any luck somebody will be streaming the game. I would think that chances are good, since the other team is the Tigers.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

I think I'm going to PM a mod soonish to ask to get the thread title changed, since this probably isn't fast or big enough to warrant yearly threads.

Unless someone else wants to make a new one and I'll close this one.

Either way, suggest some names.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Right this second we have Game 2 of Day 8 of Spring Koshien going:
http://www.mbs.jp/senbatsu/live/

As well as Marines vs. Hawks:
http://www.justin.tv/gyon_hd602ch

Get excited!

e: Fighters v. Buffalos:
http://www.justin.tv/donsen6

Lions v. Eagles:
http://www.justin.tv/miyamu2

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mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

loving ouch. I hope he gets better soon. Apparently he has a broken nose, slight concussion, and a chest contusion, so it could be a lot worse.

On that note, @JNYakyu is a pretty good twitter to follow, especially for these kinds of things.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

So, for whatever reason, tonight the Tigers are playing the Giants while wearing Oakland A's colors...It's sort of strange.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

I'm pretty excited for Koshien next month.

It is next month, right?

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

So with justin.tv gone finding streams with Japanese audio just got significantly more difficult. If anyone has resources to help with this issue please post them.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

No worries. It's better than nothing until a jtv alternative is found.
I did find one J-audio link in there tonight.

I put the link up in the OP.

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mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

I get unreasonably excited about seeing some teenagers throw baseballs for a long time, possibly ruining their arms.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

That article is definitely a pretty good read.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Of course the team I like gets this far the year I don't really follow them.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

At least you made it that far, Tigers!
Luckily the Hawks are cool too.


(Also luckily my MLB team won their series, so I can't be too upset)

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

It's also on mlb.tv.

Best way is to load the mlb.tv video feed with that link for audio. I was going to jump out the window if I had to hear someone say "ribbie" one more time.

e: Though the mlb feed is quite a bit behind the Japanese one.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Monicro posted:

important to note that chris capuano is the ace of an MLB all-star roster in 2014

It gives me hope that I'll get to see Japan win the series.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

Fair point

e: Always happy to say it: Get hosed, Puig.

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mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!

I'm pretty impressed by those nasty balls Nomi is throwing. I didn't watch very much Hanshin this last year, so I haven't seen him very much.

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