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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Captain Invictus posted:

Outstanding first episode. This one at least fulfills every expectation I had from the trailer. We'll see how well the animation quality sticks throughout the rest of the show or if it nosedives after episode 3.

Eren's mom's reaction to seeing them leaving and knowing she was about to die, Hanne's reaction to confronting an actual Titan, everything that made me get SO into the manga was magnificently done. The surroundings were so well fleshed out that it made things even MORE impactful, and I teared up during the buried mom scene.

That particular scene reminds me of...poo poo, I don't remember the animated movie's name, but it's a no-holds-barred showing of the events during the bombing of Hiroshima, and it shows a character run home after the bombing only to find their family buried under a collapsed house, have no strength to lift the rubble to save them and can only sit and watch as their parents and siblings burn to death.

Barefoot Gen?

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
I don't want to spoil the newbies, so where (if anywhere) would be the best place to speculate about the probable endpoint?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

jonjonaug posted:

If you want to speculate about stuff that's only been in the anime so far and you've only watched the anime, this is the place to do it.

Else, check out the manga thread.

I figured as much, I just wasn't sure if spoiler-heavy discussion of a likely ending for the anime would be on topic for the manga thread.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
It's in the UK? Woop-woop-woop!

Just hope there isn't too huge a gap between it airing in Japan and it airing on Crunchyroll (looking at you, Fate/zero).

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Popo posted:

Attack on Titan is a very dark and grim series as one can tell by the fan works.



And have an updated Meet the Sasha.

Honestly, that's actually true. Fanworks tend to be created to fill a gap the existing work doesn't cater for, so the grimdarkiest shows get the most cheery, light-hearted fanworks and vice versa. Just look at all the horrible poo poo that's cropped up around My Little Pony... or don't, if you value your sanity.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Waffleman_ posted:

And a lot of it is just the humor present in such stark thematic dissonance.

Well, quite.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Don't forget the massive billow of steam after ol' skinless appeared that blasted our heroes off the wall.

Yep, it's no animation error - weird poo poo be going on.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
So when can we expect this to hit Crunchyroll?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
I have found the greatest thing.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
It's mentioned in the manga (this isn't a spoiler, just a background detail) that the army's minimum recruitment age is twelve. Really rubs in how desperate they're getting.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Let's not forget the job they signed up for. Being small and light is no disadvantage when you're swinging around in 3DMG.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

GoldenNugget posted:

Wow they did a great job with that episode. A few questions though (non manga).

So I know the context of the cell shots. What the hell is with that sliced pomegranate that kept popping up? Or was it something else because I couldn't tell.

Pomegranates are 'the fruit of the dead'.

Darth Walrus fucked around with this message at 15:54 on May 19, 2013

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Soks posted:

Other than the loving lipstick, I still just don't get that. She never even remotely came across as the kind to pretty herself up at all. It's so loving alien on her.

I dunno, the story drops more than a few hints that she might want Eren to notice her, and that she manages her appearance accordingly (the haircut, for instance).

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Paracelsus posted:

Ripped and also some sort of last remaining heir of a ~mysterious clan from the orient~, to infer a bit from what her mother said to her.

Not to mention that Doctor Jaeger had regular appointments with her before poo poo went down (and then adopted her, which probably didn't slow down whatever he was doing).

Notice, also, that the anime has used lightning effects to show weird Titan stuff (like the Colossal's sudden appearance, and the berserker-Titan's regeneration). Sure, the lightning flashes and the cracking wood may have been symbolic, but it's a symbolism that seems eerily similar to actual, 'real-world' stuff happening in the show.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
I'm not entirely sure what to feel about the untimely demise of the kawaiiest Titan.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
I think the partial transformation was just because Eren was only trying to partially transform. He just wanted to become/create a shield for his friends, not a rampaging death-machine, and so the Titan-construct he grew here was purely defensive.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Schwarzwald posted:

You may be the first person to have ever compared Eren to Valjean.

Well, they are both monstrously-strong dudes struggling to acquire and retain some shred of humanity. On the other hand, that makes Mikasa Fantine, and I don't think any of us want to see that.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

boom boom boom posted:

But the Big Zam is the exact same height.

Take a while until we can get a mass-produced copy for the display, though.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
I was thinking Guilty Crown.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
hello i read the manga let me lead you along paths of "speculation"

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Kisdum?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

darkgray posted:

Not sure what you're asking, but I meant this show. Spelling is hard.

That was what I was asking, thanks. I tried Googling 'kisdum', but found only that it is apparently the Cebuano word for 'frown'.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
The fandom delivers yet again.

The Jaegers welcome their firstborn into the world (relax, it's SFW).

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Remind me, have we ever seen Mikasa look anywhere near as murderous elsewhere in this show as she did when Levi was beating on Eren? Because if looks could flay, that dude would have left the room in a bucket.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Silver2195 posted:

One who died before World War II, so the controversy seems a bit overblown.

I may be wrong here, but I believe he was active in Korea (which was subjected to a brutal Japanese occupation that began in 1910).

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Nephthys posted:

I'm pondering how Eren can know how to transform. He questions it in the episode, but theres no answer given. But Phobophilia's post reminds me that Titans have an instinctual need to eat humans, so I'm theorising that it might be similar to that. Eren has displayed that he's borderline in-human already with regeneration, so it isn't a stretch to think he might be odd in other ways, like having instincts instilling into him by his father.

The other explanation is that his dad told him but the amnesia is blocking out where he got that information. But thats a much less cool theory.

About the 'murders', I'm trying to think of who benefits from the Titans being dead. It has to be someone with access to 3d gear. We probably don't have enough info atm, but I think Squidsters speculation looks about right. One of those guys.


Remember what his dad said about 'their memories will teach you'? I think he pulled a Dark City and injected our boy with an instruction manual in addition to his powers, and that unlocked when he transformed for the first time.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Barent posted:

The difference here being that this threat is an actual, really bad threat that currently has humanity on the ropes, instead of a made up one.

Also, having read the manga, you guys are in for some serious poo poo. :getin:

And you think that fascist propaganda doesn't treat The Jewish Conspiracy as an actual, really bad threat? I mean, I get that this show probably isn't fascist (the depiction of women as something other than baby-factories for the glorious Aryan master race is a bit of a hint), but that's a really bad counterargument.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Silver2195 posted:

It comes up a lot in a certain type of Western fantasy (orcs as noble savages), but it's a reaction to an even worse trope (creatures who are basically human, except evil, just because).

And who often explicitly have the characteristics of (insert non-white race or non-Western culture here). Early speculative fiction left us with a really dark legacy.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Lucy Heartfilia posted:

Poor Sasha... why did she even decide to join the recon corps?

Most of humanity's farmland was in Wall Maria before it fell. How else was she going to re-stock on potatoes?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

hiddenriverninja posted:

pretty sure it's three words: gently caress, gently caress, gently caress!

I dunno, that look of grim determination as she yanks her horse out of the way adds a few paragraphs. I mean, it's not like grim determination is an expression we often see on Sasha except when she's contemplating a really enormous bowl of chips.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Captain Invictus posted:

And MMA fights, because the author is a gigantic MMA fan. Like, their blog is apparently mostly gushing about MMA.

Speaking of, did anyone recognise any of the moves the female Titan pulled in this episode? The author likes to inject MMA elements into his fights.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Segmentation Fault posted:

Titans aren't particularly intelligent. Even aberrant titans aren't really smart, they just act funny (perhaps due to abnormalities in their brain similar to physical abnormalities on Titan bodies?). I believe that titans have an innate sense of detecting humans, sort of like "sniffing them out" but not necessarily related to scents. This would explain why they constantly claw at the walls instead of just giving up after a while, and why they attack both Titan Eren and the Female Titan.

One difference we've seen so far is that whilst they seem to be all smiles and sunshine when they're eating humans, piloted Titans seem to genuinely piss them off. The ones that attacked Eren and our new antagonist seemed to be genuinely angry, which is pretty rare for bigmen.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

TK-31 posted:

Here's to hoping all the upcoming nazi-apologia shows can at least be as self aware as Valvrave is.

Look, sometimes you just need to found a Third Galactic Reich if you wanna fight off the Jewish vampire Illuminati. Ain't nothing fascist about that. :colbert:

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Senor Candle posted:

Until he has as much control as the female titan does I would be willing to bet that Levi is just as effective and way less dangerous to use.

They only have one Levi, though.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Renoistic posted:

FT was very expressive in this episode and looked positively human at times.

And then her face ripped open when she was pulling Eren out of his cockpit with her teeth and gaaaah :gonk:.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
I liked this bit from that Titan game:

quote:

When you begin play as a Rookie, choose only a first name. When you make it to Level 1 or start play at Level 1, also choose a last name.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

snucks posted:

It also makes you a lot less likely to kick the bucket. We have our quota of
1. One protagonist whose capacity for death has not yet been explained
2. Two invincible Titankillers that (probably) won't die for another 20 episodes
3. Two smart people who pretty much can't die unless the narrative wants to devolve into complete anarchy
4. Sasha :allears:

I 'unno, Levi and Mikasa occupy very different categories in the 'genius Titan-murderer' area of expertise (for a start, Levi can actually teach people stuff), but Erwin could probably be killed off without totally derailing the story. It would just require a narrative arc of Armin (or Jean, or Armin and Jean working together) being thrust into a role he's really not sure he's ready for yet and having to catch up fast.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Vincent Valentine posted:

He's a vital asset but he's not single-handedly "loving everything and everyone up".

Actually, that's exactly what he's doing. That's his problem.

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012

Tarodia posted:

I think my favourite part was how Mikasa's evidence was "They kinda look alike"

To be fair, she did also point out that they have the exact same fighting-style, which is the sort of evidence you can trust from one of your top murder specialists.

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Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
The entire soundtrack may be pretty badass, but I'd like to give a little shout-out to one of the less famous 'gently caress yeah humanity' tracks on it, '立body機motion':

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hj7IrrO09Ok

As for Sawano's Unicorn work, here's my favourite piece:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycF7G_Y7KXU

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