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mrlego posted:Expensive for hobby shooting once in a while, of course. Oh, absolutely. If I did this for a living, I'd definitely plop a lot more money down as a cost of doing business. Photography's just a hobby for me though, so for now I'll do it cheap(ish) and cheerful.
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I thought maybe I had a bad shutter but I'm glad to see it's not just me. I just upgraded from a T3i to an 80D and I liked the shutter on the T3i better. With the 80D there's no distinct reset on the shutter so if you have it in high speed continuous and don't make a conscious effort to jerk your finger off the shutter if you want a single shot it'll machine-gun a half dozen frames before you realize it.
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Jan 11, 2018 22:50
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Why not put it in single shot mode?
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Jan 11, 2018 22:57
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charliebravo77 posted:I thought maybe I had a bad shutter but I'm glad to see it's not just me. I just upgraded from a T3i to an 80D and I liked the shutter on the T3i better. With the 80D there's no distinct reset on the shutter so if you have it in high speed continuous and don't make a conscious effort to jerk your finger off the shutter if you want a single shot it'll machine-gun a half dozen frames before you realize it. How’s the difference in image quality been? I might jump from a T6i to a 70D/80D.
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Jan 11, 2018 23:42
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I loved my 70D and upgraded from a T4i. The difference was noticeable, especially on video.T6i can’t be that big of a step. If you were to step up, I’d do a 7D II. If you want to do video at all, off the top of my head 80D is better than 70D but not by a lot.
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Jan 12, 2018 00:07
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President Beep posted:This touches on one reason why I won't be transitioning to full frame any time soon. Most of the EF glass is just so damned expensive. That’s not EF, that’s L pricing. And in any case it usually holds the value well.
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Jan 12, 2018 00:22
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harperdc posted:And in any case it usually holds the value well.
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Jan 12, 2018 00:25
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President Beep posted:How’s the difference in image quality been? I might jump from a T6i to a 70D/80D. From the T3i it's pretty significantly, particularly in terms of usable ISO range. For my style of shooting(primarily outdoors photo and video) its been a very worthwhile upgrade with the locking mode selection knob, independent aperture and shutter controls, weathersealing, photo/video switch and continuous auto focus for video. The faster frame rate is also too.
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Jan 12, 2018 00:45
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harperdc posted:That’s not EF, that’s L pricing. And in any case it usually holds the value well.  Case in point. The L stuff is... yeah. The 70-200 f/4 L is pretty reasonable I think but then it goes way bonkers. How can the $100 kit lens have IS but getting IS in this one doubles the price? Not to mention the f/2.8. But this only applies to hobby shooting of course, it's hard to justify these prices when the glass would be just sitting on the shelf 99% of the time. For pro use it's all fairly reasonable.
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Thanks for the feedback. I’m not too concerned with burst rate, so I’ve not really been considering a 7D, II or otherwise. I’ve also heard the image quality on the 80D is a little better (don’t know if this is true or not). What I’m really after is better low light ISO performance than what my Rebel provides, and from what I can gather a bump up to a more recent XXD body can provide that. There’s so much conflicting information out there that eventually I’m going to have to stop consuming reviews and just make a choice. Someone ITT recommended I rent the bodies I’m interested in for a test drive, which is a solid idea.
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Jan 12, 2018 01:13
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L lenses are nice and all but Sigma and Tamron stepping up their high end game presents some nice alternatives with your full frame setup.
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Jan 12, 2018 01:15
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Um, actually I think you’ll find that they’ll make your camera explode.
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Jan 12, 2018 01:19
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The Sigma Art lenses are beautiful and (generally) much cheaper than equivalent L options.
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Jan 12, 2018 01:20
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Helen Highwater posted:The Sigma Art lenses are beautiful and (generally) much cheaper than equivalent L options. Does Sigma have weather sealing? That's the only obvious difference from L, but I didn't look at all the ART glass... E. The sports Sigmas are weather sealed, whatever sports means. mrlego fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jan 12, 2018 |
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Jan 12, 2018 02:22
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Helen Highwater posted:The Sigma Art lenses are beautiful and (generally) much cheaper than equivalent L options. I've touched on this issue before, but they are awesome lenses plagued by autofocus issues. You might get a good one, you might get one that misses focus and is impossible to correct. Canon lenses work every time.
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Jan 12, 2018 02:26
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Is there anything out there that competes with the 70-200 2.8 yet?
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Jan 12, 2018 03:39
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mobby_6kl posted:
Because one of them has an IS group made out of molded plastic lenses and the other has an IS group made out of hand polished fancy ingredient glass ones Then tack on the obligatory camerabuxx markup and poof
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Jan 12, 2018 03:55
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xzzy posted:Is there anything out there that competes with the 70-200 2.8 yet? I was super close to trading mine for a sigma 120-300 but I’m glad I thought better. Not a newer one. I have no idea how well that thing does
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Jan 12, 2018 03:56
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Soulex posted:I was super close to trading mine for a sigma 120-300 but I’m glad I thought better. Not a newer one. I have no idea how well that thing does It's freaking great....and huge. I had the second generation (3d is better still). It was sharp, reasonably fast focus and accurate. Plus, at 300 2.8, great portrait lens.
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Jan 12, 2018 04:31
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hope and vaseline posted:L lenses are nice and all but Sigma and Tamron stepping up their high end game presents some nice alternatives with your full frame setup. Seriously. The art lenses are basically on par or better IQ . The latest from Tamron (24-70, 15-30, 70-200) are basically the last gen L IQ. and around $1000 less. The downside is the lenses are larger, including front optics, so bigger filters (or none for the 15-32). I'm not a pro, but I'm competent, and the vast majority of these were taken with Tamron lenses http://www.jasonwrigley.com/ Sorry for the terrible hobbyist site. If this works, it's probably one of my recent favorite. 
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torgeaux posted:It's freaking great....and huge. I had the second generation (3d is better still). It was sharp, reasonably fast focus and accurate. Plus, at 300 2.8, great portrait lens. poo poo I'll bet. My biggest complaint about going FF is I can't reach out and touch poo poo like I used to. That last generation is like 3k for the sports variant, and that's gonna be a rent always thing.
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Jan 12, 2018 18:09
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ijyt posted:I tried a friends 5D IV today and the shutter button was mushy compared to the clicky one on my 60D, he said the 5D II he had was the same, does Canon use different shutter button mechanisms on their pro bodies? Seems like a strange thing to differentiate. Same feeling I got when I upgraded from my 650D to 6D. The tactile feedback isn't as good.
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Jan 14, 2018 07:30
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Trip report with the 70-200 f/4. Lens very good.    550D autofocus, not so much 
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Jan 21, 2018 21:31
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That first one is definitely a keeper. Also, it’s always encouraging to see someone getting good pics out of a Rebel—it gives me hope!
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Jan 21, 2018 21:35
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mobby_6kl posted:Trip report with the 70-200 f/4. Might have been your AI Focus settings. Looks like single shot.
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Jan 21, 2018 23:16
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That bird looks pissed off about grapes.
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Jan 21, 2018 23:47
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Probably just mad it couldn't stuff all three in its beak. Two were doable though!President Beep posted:That first one is definitely a keeper. Soulex posted:Might have been your AI Focus settings. Looks like single shot.
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Jan 22, 2018 00:51
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Did you get the IS version?
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Jan 22, 2018 00:53
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I did race panning with a 500d for years, definitely need a lot of exposures to get keepers but it's not slit your wrists bad. By far the best perk upgrading is low light performance.
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Jan 22, 2018 00:59
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mobby_6kl posted:Trip report with the 70-200 f/4. What was you shutter speed for the last photo?
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xzzy posted:I did race panning with a 500d for years, definitely need a lot of exposures to get keepers but it's not slit your wrists bad. I started out with a 500D too. Got a ton of great pictures with it but the low light performance was absolute garbage. At least it could run Magic Lantern, that added a ton of QOF features.
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Yeah, don't sleep on the Rebels. My Rebel XT took this photo with the popup flash and kit lens and I still use it in my sports portfolio: AppPor-4 by Nicholas Kneer, on Flickralso, the 70-200 f/4 was the best purchase I ever made early on:  Kil-Kare by Nicholas Kneer, on Flickr
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Jan 22, 2018 16:19
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This post both dulls and exacerbates my gear lust. On the one hand, it helps to remind me that good shots aren't just all about the equipment. On the other hand, it has me figuring out ways to scrape together the money for a relatively affordable piece of L glass. President Beep fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Jan 22, 2018 |
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Lighting and composition are by far the most important factors IMO, and improving those only costs time. On the other hand, the L lenses are niiiice  mrlego posted:What was you shutter speed for the last photo? President Beep posted:Did you get the IS version?
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Birds are hard. I've gone 550D -> 60D -> 6D, and now I really really want a 7D2. And probably upgrade my 150-600 to one of the newer ones. When I got my 60D I also went 70-300 USM to 70-300L and that lens made everything so much better.
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mobby_6kl posted:Nope. It'd make a big difference, particularly because f/4 isn't super fast (IS does wonders on the 50-250mm), but it's also almost double the price and very difficult to justify for an occasional hobby photographer. That's the decision I'd have to make too. Still, it looks like the non-IS does produce some nice stuff.
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mobby_6kl posted:very difficult to justify for an occasional hobby photographer.
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InternetJunky posted:You're doing it wrong Please don't reveal my technique.
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BetterLekNextTime posted:Birds are hard. I went from Nikon D70 to T4i to 70D to 5D Mk iii. I played with 7D's and 7D2's in the military a bunch and that shutter speed is super nice. I just wanted to get away from crop sensors. I took a big shutter speed hit with the 5D but it's worth it. Also 100% agree with the lens. I went back looking at some of my old sports photos and saw a bunch of chromatic aberration and weird poo poo happening at higher focal lengths. 80D is a nice all rounder despite sounding like a behavioral issue. That flip screen is loving nuts. It sounds like it's an extra gadget but being able to rack focus by touching what you want on the screen is so loving cool to do on a DSLR. President Beep posted:Please don't reveal my technique. lol
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Soulex posted:I went from Nikon D70 to T4i to 70D to 5D Mk iii. I played with 7D's and 7D2's in the military a bunch and that shutter speed is super nice. I just wanted to get away from crop sensors. I took a big shutter speed hit with the 5D but it's worth it. I don't think I'd get rid of the 6D. But I still shoot a large proportion of wildlife, and there are times when the AF on the 6D just can't cut it, even in center-point/back button focusing. The other day I was at a wetland and had a beautiful male Cinnamon Teal fly across my view in gorgeous light and with a great backdrop of colorful marsh grass. Didn't get a single shot in focus. I might look at the 80D again, especially since they show up every once in a while crazy cheap on the Canon Refurb site. But I think the 7D2 is what I really want.
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