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Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Oh hey, there's a thread for this.

It really seems to be finding it's feet lately, with the over-the-top reactions that aren't just literal food-orgasms. I'm excited to see where it goes. Hopefully Tadakoro doesn't really get the boot :ohdear: Although I suppose it would be pretty amazing if this did actually stick. It would really raise the stakes.

It's almost getting to the point that you'd never guess the artist used to do porn :v:

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Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

This manga is becoming more like Yakitate!! over time

There's always at least one hilarious, ridiculous page. I loved the cow/salmon/asparagus egg.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Compendium posted:

And then we'll have an arc about the perfect meal that is supposed to revive the dead.

Wait, this is getting into Toriko territory...

That already happened in Yakitate!!

Well, technically it was bread that enabled time travel which prevented people from dying in the past, but, same difference.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Oh my god, that was the best.

The author's definition of fanservice is becoming increasingly specific, in a great way :allears:

I can't wait for the Attack on Titan homage.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Furious Lobster posted:

There are plenty of reasons to use it in the batter - has a different flavor that would complement the lemon, is healthier, makes the overall feeling of the cake base a lot lighter, etc. Also, one could use the olive oil in the semifreddo itself not to mention that usage of olive oil v. butter in deserts is rather common in Italy. There are conversion charts for butter v. olive oil, so it'd be relatively easy to do so without screwing up. There are a ton of options that Aldini could have gone with that's why I still believe that it was far easier for Subaru to predict the dish rather than what direction Aldini would have gone with in his moment of desperation.

As an aside, if you want to make Subaru's Preserved Lemon Semifreddo or Aldini's never-seen-before :rolleyes: lemon curd, enjoy!


It wasn't never-seen-before, just unexpected. They said it was common in England and even showed a jar of it.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

KittyEmpress posted:

Not really. Most of the artists with really good art in the manga business did porn. Hellsing was by a guy who did porn, Akamatsu (Mahou Sensei Negima, UQ Holder) did porn. Ghost in the Shell? Porn.


Hell, every single character from Hellsing is flat out ported from his porn.

Ghost in the Shell guy went back to porn :v:

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

ZepiaEltnamOberon posted:

That image is probably the flagship image for this series in SA at this point. I think I've seen that image posted three times or so, generally with the same tag line (from the ping pong chapter).

It's amazing.

Also makes me think I should watch the Jojo anime, along with the frog punching gif.

It's perfect because it allays fears that all the reactions are going to be barely disguised porn, like they are in the early chapters.

Also you definitely should.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

kidcoelacanth posted:

As far as I'm concerned Tadokoro is the protagonist and everyone else is secondary :colbert:

Yeah, she's the true protagonist.

Soma is the genius mentor while Tadokoro is actually going to learn and grow as the series goes along. I was so glad when she was revealed to be actually competent!

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

The Evil Thing posted:

Out of curiosity, is it actually possible to read WSJ without a tablet of some sort? A way didn't seem to present itself.

Yeah there's a browser reader but it suuuuuuucks.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

SatansBestBuddy posted:

I think this is where my problem is coming from; Souma isn't confronting people with that. He's too busy trying to outcook some of the best chefs in his year, which is where the story should be focusing right now. I guess this is an interesting tangent they can explore after the competition, but having it be dumped in the middle of judging feels.... distracting. Like they really needed to end on a cliffhanger this chapter after already ending on a cliffhanger last chapter.

I should say, I'm not calling this a bad storyline to follow through, I'd just be far more interested if it's something Souma actually did rather than something other people speculate he's doing while he's busy doing something else entirely.

Well he's not like going up to people and saying "I can succeed and I'm not a genius, what's your problem!?"

He's making them confront their own flaws just by doing well. Everyone expects him to fail in front of these geniuses and he just doesn't. That's the whole point, it was never that he disrespected the school or whatever. Admittedly, this wasn't set up very well, and basically just came out of nowhere this chapter, but I still feel like it was handled pretty well and makes perfect sense.

I mean, the only member of the (apparently gigantic) journalism club at this school we've seen is a huge Soma fanboy who writes nothing but positive articles about him. This doesn't exactly indicate that everyone is against him. And there haven't been any encounters with regular students who resent him either. But this is the big showdown so attaching some more significance to it is fine, especially since it's not, like, the announcer doing this, just a couple people off to the side having a discussion.

It's not a masterstroke of plotting or anything, but it's a decent little thematic thing to throw on top of the end of this interminable election tournament. The fact that half this thread misread is as actually being the thing Eizan was mistaken about is kind of baffling to me. The whole point of the chapter is that he was wrong about everyone hating Soma for disrespecting the school.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

pentyne posted:

For 100+ chapters in there's been a shocking absence of anything romance related aside from Nikumi getting flustered and a few brief scenes with Megumi. This tournament arc has really carried on for far too long with shockingly little payoff, serving more as a vehicle for a poo poo ton of extra characters to get their day in the sun.

40+ chapters of this entire series is this 1st year tournament, and it adds at least 10-15 new characters.

I mean, that's what the manga is. It's not going to turn into a romance manga all of a sudden. It's about cooking, the whole tournament was almost nonstop cooking. If you're not enjoying the cooking, I'd stop reading if I was you.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Neo_Crimson posted:

That's why I'm annoyed at the result, not because of the reason Souma lost, but the fact that over half the manga has been for nearly nothing.

What do you mean "for nothing"? Because the protagonist didn't win? It isn't a loving videogame where it's a waste of time if you don't immediately gain victory.

Just a couple pages ago everyone was lamenting the fact that Soma is unbeatable and never loses except for those times that he lost. Now he loses the big tournament and suddenly it was a waste of time. It introduced a dozen characters and was incredibly entertaining. This will push the story forward by causing character growth for Soma. It literally makes up a majority of the content of this series.

Jesus christ, if you didn't enjoy the tournament, why are you reading? That's what the manga has been for more than a year. It's going to continue being that but in a slightly different form in the future. It's like complaining there are too many fights in Dragon Ball Z.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

MonsieurChoc posted:

Alice already has someone though.

Alice has a side-harem in the making.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Pewdiepie posted:

That dish in today's chapter looks really good.

Yeah it made me hungry reading it, which is always a good sign. A shame that the "moon" filling would be really hard to make yourself.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

SyntheticPolygon posted:

Isshiki does not look like he is trying to be cool either.

Also sword guy is definitely cool. Because drat, he's got a huge-rear end sword. How's he going to cook with that? It's amazing.

He's gonna use it to take pizzas in and out of the oven, obviously.

Or maybe tenderizing.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Fabricated posted:

Is it weird that I find this Azami development so lame that I've basically dropped this series?

:yeah:

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Centzon Totochtin posted:

the green stuff's weed

It can't be, none of the judges have traveled backwards in time.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

I wasn't really enjoying this arc either, but mostly because it's had a severe lack of cooking and metaphor reactions, which are what I read this series for.

If they keep talking about destroying all inferior cuisine but start actually having more cooking duels, it'd be fine. Hopefully wet get to see more of the purge after this match.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

A tie seems pretty likely since there are two judges and it's the one thing that wouldn't upend the status quo.

But at the same time I really hope that it isn't a tie, just because either person winning would be more interesting.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Compendium posted:

There's also Cooking Papa for good nice dad cook man, but everyone will die before there's even a dent in translating it

The 20 or so chapters that are available are pretty great, though.

Out of like a thousand :smith:

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

I mean, they do have like regular classes in lecture halls. We've seen Soma and Megumi leaving them at the end of the day a couple times.

It's just not the focus because this is a manga about cooking, not teaching.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Blinks77 posted:

To be fair, while the writer is likely a pretty good cook. That's the sort of specialized kind of thing he might not be comfortable with trying to, well, bullshit about.

There's actually a separate writer and cooking consultant for this series. And I'm pretty sure the cooking consultant is a woman. Presumably the writer just kinda wings it sometimes, leading to the shocked reactions to relatively mundane cooking techniques :v:

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Zenostein posted:

Now I miss those little insert recipes they had way back in the beginning.

Or maybe they're still there and don't get scanlated. idk.

They're probably added in the volume releases. I'll have to check next time I'm at a bookstore.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

I don't like the whole Central plot only because it feels incredibly unnecessary. The school itself was already filling the role of the antagonist, along with the Elite 10.

It would be perfectly fine as Yu Yu Hakusho w/ food, ie tournament after tournament. This series doesn't need a big villain.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

ChronoReverse posted:

Don't kid yourself, even in the middle of the only tournament of this manga, people were complaining. That's the way online forums are.

Oh, I know that other people would hate it, I'm just saying I wouldn't mind :v:

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

That was a good chapter but I'm getting really bored of everyone's clothes flying off all the time. Hopefully they go back to the old fun metaphors for the judging, at least.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

paragon1 posted:

i wonder how the author got introduced to american southern cooking? it's coming up more than i ever expected it would.

alice's dad has batarang eyebrows.

It's probably coming from the cooking consultant, and I'd guess she visited America recently.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

That reaction kind of justifies this whole drawn-out match.

Also the fact that they both basically made bear nuggets with dippin' sauce.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Her and Shinomiya placing so high makes me think that the stagiare arc was released in volumes around the time of voting.

Otherwise it makes no sense at all

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

A return to form. I only hope we get some good metaphors out of Soma smashing the pure-blooded traditionalist with instant noodles.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Venuz Patrol posted:

this manga sucked for a while since it stopped having food, but it has food again now so its good

Yeah it's really turned around since this arc started.

I like the new judges, they seem fun. Also that last page seems like another thing that would be much more impressive in color.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden


Same.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

It could be that the protagonist of this cooking manga is, like, really good at cooking.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Rangpur posted:

There's no way he's losing in a single elimination tournament, but I think it's a pity the author set it up that way. A narrow loss for Souma wouldn't even be a poor decision here--if he throws tradition out the window and still comes within a hair's breadth of defeating one of the elite 10 in her area of absolute mastery, it throws Azami's entire philosophy into question. (It also tees up the other members of their team to demonstrate they're *all* a serious threat to the status quo by winning the two remaining matches.)

Eh that's weak writing. Don't throw it into question, they already did that by passing those bullshit tests. Destroy Azami's philosophy. Annihilate it. Beat thousand-year traditions with stuff you can get at a mini mart.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Yeah this seemed perfectly in keeping with the theme of this arc. Nene just made soba the same way she always does because she spent her whole life learning to make soba in one perfect way. Soma adapted to the circumstances perfectly, and won.

Nene didn't make any mistakes. She just did the thing she'd always been taught to do with no critical thinking. Almost like the philosophy of a certain comically evil chairman....

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Oh my loving god, losing to Soma does not mean she was a bad chef.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

I can't wait for Soma to abolish the elite 10 and replace it with the Bizarre Food Council of Darkness :allears:

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

his insane, idiotic plan to destroy the concept of restaurants is fun, sure. it would probably cause the extinction of every vaguely gourmet animal species on the planet and possibly create a global famine, but it is still fun. i mean, how else are you going to raise the stakes in a manga about high school competitive cooking?

the child abuse was absolutely a mistake, though. it is possible to change his mind (likely via psychedelic food reactions) about all sorts of things, but azami would still be a child-abusing shitbag no matter what he eats. there ain't no bread that changes the past here.

Not yet, anyway.

Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

Hate-Senpai posted:

It's awesome how Mimisaka went from a complete jerk to a supremely funny character.

Mimisaka is a bro now.

He was pretty funny even when he was a jerk, so it wasn't a huge shift.

I would 100% read a Mimasaka spinoff. It would make for a great gag manga.

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Begemot
Oct 14, 2012

The One True Oden

I believe in Mimasaka :ohdear:

He's gonna win by using his trace of one of the other elite 10 to finish up the sushi.

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