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KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Mountain Lightning posted:

crazy food orgasms.

At first I was turned off by the fanservice, but then I got a few chapters in and I can't complain about it anymore - it makes no attempt to not be equal opportunity fanservice. Which actually makes me laugh instead of groan like most fanservice does.

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KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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So basically her secret cooking powers is being everyone's mom. That's... something I guess.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Mountain Lightning posted:

Tadokoro's tears and Souma trying to help take the blame tugged at my heartstrings. This chapter was not how I expected it to play out but to be honest I am happy it turned out like this. It wasn't that Tadokoro wasn't good enough to beat him it was because Kojiro isn't any better? Right on. Kojiro getting called out was the best part of the chapter. :getin:

Tadokoro is awesome and here is hoping this shokugeki boosts her confidence even if it's just a little it.


But he specifically WAS better than her - the difference was that everything she did she did with the person eating it in mind, and how to make it good for them, while he stagnated and focused on what was 'best'. Sheer skill and taste wise he was superior.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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SpazmasterX posted:

What the hell happened to Tadokoro's hips in that title page?

They're Street Fighter references. She's Chun-Li, so her legs are huge! Except it was only her hips that became huge. But eh.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Honestly I think Megumi's growth is as much if not more of a focus of the manga currently as Soma's. He always finds a way and has been great from the beginning, but Megumi has her whole arc of getting confident with herself to work on, as well as straight 'better at cooking'.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Kind of a weird thing to praise, but I love how 'clean' the art I. This is. There's no shortcuts or half colored pages, people have basically okay shape to them.. I M honestly.not sure what it is, but reading this manga it feels a lot 'neater' in the art.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Souma, Mikumi, and sorta Erina are all unique as far as the series is concerned, especially the former two.

Souma's food style is literally a home town restaurant that attracted customers by having changing specials, meaning he has a very wide talent. Mikumi's food style is 'home cooking' - she cooks with ingredients and a style meant to soothe, and can cover a very broad range when she's confident.

Erina, as far as we've seen, has a less broad specialty, but still a very broad one - she believes in gourmet food, and making all her food be wonderful and gourmet and beautiful. It's the opposite of souma and Mikumi - Souma never learned to cook a gourmet dish. He learned how to cook dozens (hundreds) of different dishes that tasted good despite being 'low class' food. Mikumi doesn't care about whether her food is beautiful or made to be high class - she cares about whether her food will make people happy.


Honestly, I could totally see this manga as a slightly less shounen series with Mikumi as the main character, keeping Erina as the rival, which amuses me.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Compendium posted:

(You mean Megumi, not Mikumi I hope...)

Yes. I am bad with names. I don't even know who Mikumi is, and I have no idea where I got the name from. I will leave it there so other people can see how I messed up :v:

Edit: Apparently I combined Megumi and Nikumi's (meat girl) names. Good job me.

KittyEmpress fucked around with this message at 22:37 on Apr 6, 2014

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Yeah, but he didn't get kicked out of the entire tournament for him. Souma loses sometimes, but starting a huge tournament arc and then having the main character lose in the first official round would be kind of... unique. Though I am all for more Megumi!

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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I'd like to remind everyone that this is a cooking manga thank you for your time.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Xelkelvos posted:

With pics like that, you'd never imagine the artist used to draw porn manga. With pics of Meat girl however...

Not really. Most of the artists with really good art in the manga business did porn. Hellsing was by a guy who did porn, Akamatsu (Mahou Sensei Negima, UQ Holder) did porn. Ghost in the Shell? Porn.


Hell, every single character from Hellsing is flat out ported from his porn.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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On one hand I enjoy this because it's a slap in the face of this rear end in a top hat. On the other, I don't, because if it was just his knife on the line you could have some tension that he might lose. A lot of Shounen stuff lets the protagonist lose in their first year and then come back better and more prepared the next one and blow everyone away. That can't happen if him losing would literally end the manga.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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I'm kind of worried about that. Too many anime get started too early in a manga's lifecycle and then end and never get another one.

On the other hand, this seems like it'd be a funny anime to watch.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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MonsieurChoc posted:

I like Erina. I think it's funny whenever stuff happens to her and she gets all angry because how dare stuff happens to her and Souma is all Asterix greeting Ceasar.

I like Erina because she makes Alice so much better just by existing. Alice is the best.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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KittyEmpress posted:

I like Erina because she makes Alice so much better just by existing. Alice is the best.

I'd just like to repeat this, Alice and her mother are literally the best.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Soma and Megumi are kinda exactly the same except Megumi is part of the group of 'everyman' who would be jealous of Soma.

Soma looks at his failures and improves. He works tirelessly without giving up until something works. He never loses heart, and when he does it's only for a short time. He's not a superman in terms of being able to extract every taste or smell from a food, nor is he ultra talented to where everything he cooks is delicious at the first try, he just keeps trying until it is. This is a talent of his.

Megumi looks at her failures and panicks and 'accepts' that she's a failure. Her whole arc was Soma teaching her that she has to believe that she can do better and improve, and not just accept that she's terrible, because she isn't. The first part of what Megumi does is basically what this chapter says everyone does when presented with a challenge. They make excuses and don't try again and again. Soma forced Megumi to move past that, and keep going.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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tonberrytoby posted:

Soma doesn't really fail in the story. Every time he makes something that isn't perfect is in a comedic scene or even offscreen.

But he does fail in the story, it's just not at the pivotal moments in the stories. Look at this very arc we are reading. He failed at being able to tell the best fish, because he wasn't a super talented genius. So he worked, and worked to find a way to match them anyways. He had his friends help him learn new techniques to use, and came up with an answer to make up for his lack of talent, after multiple days of working day and night.

Yeah, he doesn't lose, but that's what they're talking about. Most of the students at the academy would see how their opponents were so much more talented than them and be crushed, and give up trying. They would go 'well I'm just not capable of beating them at this, and this is what's most important.' They wouldn't even think up the idea of preserving the fish, let alone try it out time and time again when it didn't come out good enough.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Begemot posted:

I mean, the only member of the (apparently gigantic) journalism club at this school we've seen is a huge Soma fanboy who writes nothing but positive articles about him. This doesn't exactly indicate that everyone is against him. And there haven't been any encounters with regular students who resent him either. But this is the big showdown so attaching some more significance to it is fine, especially since it's not, like, the announcer doing this, just a couple people off to the side having a discussion.

Well, we did see multiple times that Soma was underestimated and played as a fool who would quickly lose by the journalism club. The only member we've seen even explicitly stated that everyone at the journalism club was expecting and writing as if Soma had no chance, and that no one besides him really liked Soma.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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I think it's inevitable that we'll see at least some of the business aspect of it all, seeing as one of the Elites who hates him and has it out for him is the guy who is a master in business management over even cooking.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Ethiser posted:

What the hell. Early in this manga they said that Souma is good because he doesn't try to stick to certain style of cooking he just worries about making good food.

Yeah like this is part of why it was bullshit. The flashback in the middle of the chapter was also bullshit, but early in the manga they made it out like Souma being a generalist capable of adapting any style and dish to make it taste good was a big talent of his. Him being capable of creatively matching a dude who went all in on his bullshit unrealistic spice-style, getting a perfectly even result in terms of which had a better flavor? That makes him seem like a better cook to me. Same with Kurokiba. Dude is insane and bloodthirsty, but he has great instincts and is apparently great at tons of kinds of cooking. Meanwhile Hayama is a one trick pony.

If Kurokiba or Souma won you'd get the lesson of 'playing just to your strengths and ignoring your weaknesses doesn't work'. Meanwhile Hayama won apparently for the same reason Megumi did so well, except it was never referenced beforehand.

KittyEmpress fucked around with this message at 15:38 on Jan 26, 2015

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Daler Mehndi posted:

Well don't I feel super-special for not being bothered that he lost? Am I even the right audience for this manga? :shrug:

I don't think anyone minds that he lost, we just dislike the reason for 'why'. They could easily have just said 'all the dishes were amazing, truly worthy of the finals, but Hayama's was the best' and no one would care, and some people in the thread would be happy, since they kept talking about how boring it was that he always won. The mid-chapter flashback spoiling who was going to win, revealing a ~tragic past~ for the winner is what was annoying.

KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Further proof that Japan has no taste. Erina? Really?

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KittyEmpress
Dec 30, 2012

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Erina got all the votes from guys who want the perfect cold tsundere waifu, and Takumi got all the votes from girls who want their angsty pretty perfect little husbando

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