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Ithaqua posted:Whenever a discussion of cloning comes up, it always reminds me of this old cartoon... I saw this cartoon late at night on Cartoon Network (O, Canada) when I was like, 9 years old maybe, and I like to think that this alone is responsible for all the anxiety and depression I suffered as a teenager.
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There's a joke about Star Trek's transporters somewhere here. Hell, there's probably a filk by Tom Smith for this.
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Dec 19, 2013 21:37
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DrBouvenstein posted:(Bolding mine.) Clone slugs seem more like a convenience for Rusty than a favor for the boys. He seems to use cloning mostly as a shortcut to save himself problems, like with that kid who got killed by the gorilla. I'd imagine he's too much of a narcissist to gloss over the fact that any clone of him would be a copy who got to go off and live at the expense of his death.
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Dec 20, 2013 00:09
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Jack Gladney posted:Clone slugs seem more like a convenience for Rusty than a favor for the boys. He seems to use cloning mostly as a shortcut to save himself problems, like with that kid who got killed by the gorilla. I'd imagine he's too much of a narcissist to gloss over the fact that any clone of him would be a copy who got to go off and live at the expense of his death. BTW, I always wondered, was the clone of the kid or one of the Hank/Dean clones? From the dialog in the show, it sounds like its the former, but the commentary makes it sound like they intend it to the latter.
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Dec 20, 2013 00:33
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Ithaqua posted:Whenever a discussion of cloning comes up, it always reminds me of this old cartoon...
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Dec 20, 2013 01:07
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The episode where Orpheus can feel the boys' souls in that machine before they get downloaded into the slugs always made me think that Rusty's cloning process is closer to real immortality than just identical copies.
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Dec 20, 2013 03:10
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Sockser posted:I saw this cartoon late at night on Cartoon Network (O, Canada) when I was like, 9 years old maybe, and I like to think that this alone is responsible for all the anxiety and depression I suffered as a teenager. Thank God I'm not the only one. That cartoon has scarred me for life.
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Dec 20, 2013 03:34
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PostNouveau posted:The episode where Orpheus can feel the boys' souls in that machine before they get downloaded into the slugs always made me think that Rusty's cloning process is closer to real immortality than just identical copies. Maybe Rusty's right about the parallels between his science and Orpheus's magic, but rather than magic being mundane and dismissible his science is actually wondrous.
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Dec 20, 2013 03:56
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Pope Guilty posted:Maybe Rusty's right about the parallels between his science and Orpheus's magic, but rather than magic being mundane and dismissible his science is actually wondrous. I think it pretty clear his super science is wondrous and he is just too jaded to appreciate it. I mean Walking eye!
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LtSmash posted:I think it pretty clear his super science is wondrous and he is just too jaded to appreciate it. I mean Walking eye! Yeah, but what does it do?
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AGirlWonder posted:Thank God I'm not the only one. That cartoon has scarred me for life. For some reason I never saw that episode. Just the ones with "Bob and Margaret", "The Lumberjacks Waltz", "The Cat Came Back", that one about the kid who get appendicitis, and the one about the kid who gets the wrong sweater.
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Dec 20, 2013 04:15
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Doctor Venture has managed to get over a lot of his childhood trauma; This scene shows just how far he's come by now.
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Ithaqua posted:Whenever a discussion of cloning comes up, it always reminds me of this old cartoon...  Jesus Christ, the humor in this is pitch black for what appears to be a short for children. She effectively commits suicide by teleporter so her clone can live guilt-free!
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Dec 20, 2013 05:02
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Mr. Fowl posted:
The NFB of Canada is amazing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjLBXb1kgMo
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Mr. Fowl posted:
My understanding is that O, Canada was like What A Cartoon in that it was animation students final projects. Also it aired at like 1am or something so as to not air it for kids
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Mr. Fowl posted:
It's vintage NFB. It's not necessarily for anyone except the people who might watch it. That's part of what made NFB animation so special way back when. Even when it looks like it's for kids, that's just an aesthetic it's appropriating in order to, say, preserve an old folk song or establish itself in a referential hierarchy to older NFB pieces. Sockser posted:My understanding is that O, Canada was like What A Cartoon in that it was animation students final projects. Also it aired at like 1am or something so as to not air it for kids If you like that stuff, you should check out the Hothouse series. The NFB did (I'm pretty sure 2012 was the last year because TORY HATE ARTS FUNDING TORY WANT REVENGE) a series of annual internship programs where aspiring animators were supported through the process of doing shorts. Some are really weird or cool. There's this great one from like, series two where a guy drinks in a bar during a storm and the icecube in his drink melts in real time throughout the short. Republican Vampire fucked around with this message at 07:47 on Dec 20, 2013 |
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Dec 20, 2013 07:44
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Ithaqua posted:Whenever a discussion of cloning comes up, it always reminds me of this old cartoon... Oh man, they made an episode of the outer limits about this same idea. Never going to use a teleporter!
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Dec 20, 2013 08:14
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Republican Vampire posted:If you like that stuff, you should check out the Hothouse series. The NFB did (I'm pretty sure 2012 was the last year because TORY HATE ARTS FUNDING TORY WANT REVENGE) a series of annual internship programs where aspiring animators were supported through the process of doing shorts. Some are really weird or cool. There's this great one from like, series two where a guy drinks in a bar during a storm and the icecube in his drink melts in real time throughout the short. Family Guy exists only because of What A Cartoon, and Adventure Time (and arguably Gravity Falls, Steven Universe, Regular Show, Uncle Grandpa, Problem Solverz, Bravest Warriors, Bee and Puppycat, others that I'm forgetting) from Nickelodeon's equivalent, so I think it's kind of a shame that there's not any shows like that on the air anymore that just show like, student films/indie cartoons/etc Or maybe the age of the internet has made them irrelevant, I dunno.
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KNITS MY FEEDS posted:Oh man, they made an episode of the outer limits about this same idea. Never going to use a teleporter! No need to worry, in 1987 Dr Venture proved the soul exists and is disassembled and transmitted along with the physical properties of your body. However the military wasn't interested in purchasing any 'soul disruptors' to defend against soviet troops teleporting into the US if it wouldn't also stop their physical bodies from appearing.
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No, no NFB. No NFB in my Venture thread. The NFB was responsible for more vague anxiety than the thought of "someday everyone you love will die" ever produced. Thankfully it lost its power when I got to university and realized that it was just clueless morons like us making those shorts.
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Dec 20, 2013 21:18
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Pope Guilty posted:Yeah, but what does it do? It doesn't do anything, that's the beauty of it! 
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Dec 22, 2013 08:41
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It doesn't do anything, that's the beauty of it! I always hear that line in Burgess Meredith's voice for some reason.
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KNITS MY FEEDS posted:Oh man, they made an episode of the outer limits about this same idea. Never going to use a teleporter! Don't worry, assuming continuity of consciousness is maintained you haven't actually died in any meaningful sense. A great deal of your body is constantly replaced and recycled, and you don't say that you've died every 4 years when the vast majority of it has been replaced by different atoms, do you? And if we're talking about Star Trek matter beam teleporters that use the same molecules to rebuild you, it's even less of a death! e: Things get a little confusing when there's teleporter duplicates involved, but that's easily solved by considering the 'new' you to be a unique individual who happens to have some of the same memories as yourself, as their experience differs after the point of divergence. Daktar fucked around with this message at 15:53 on Dec 22, 2013 |
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Duplicates, you say? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QryGNzVeogE
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Ithaqua posted:Whenever a discussion of cloning comes up, it always reminds me of this old cartoon... Man, I wish I'd seen this before reading "Think Like a Dinosaur". (Which you can hear a reading of here and may have been adapted into the "Outer Limits" episode Knits My Feeds is thinking of?)
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:It doesn't do anything, that's the beauty of it!
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Hope everyone has a good holidays! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjFQpwE3cqE
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Correct answer was "reconnaissance applications"! Points lost all around for failing to mention the monkey-proof welding.
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Rusty also invented the "Vaccuum boom broom", I'm sure it was great in action.
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Everybody Comes to Hanks is easily the best episode. Had to say it somewhere.
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I have no idea what my favorite episode is but that one is in my top 5.
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Shadowman 9: In the Cradle of Destiny. 
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Cernunnos posted:Shadowman 9: In the Cradle of Destiny. The first 3 episodes of season 3 are all great, I would have a hard time choosing between them.
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LashLightning posted:There's a joke about Star Trek's transporters somewhere here. Hell, there's probably a filk by Tom Smith for this. There's this explanation about how star trek transporters are actually these really horrifying devices in the sequel to John Dies at the End. It basically boils down to the transporter being a fax machine that shreds the original and builds the copy at the destination with whatever atomic materials are on hand. So basically, every time someone teleports, they're committing suicide and the person at the other end is just a clone.
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An episode of The Next Generation actually established they do have continuity of consciousnesses through the entire transport procedure and they do keep the same set of particles throughout.
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That's just what Starfleet wants everyone to think.
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Spoilers about The Prestige pretty much the plot of that movie...Wolverine has an amazing teleportation machine, but it turns out it's just cloning him night after night. He goes on each night knowing he's going to die.
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Wade Wilson posted:That's just what Starfleet wants everyone to think. This is getting into some dumb/lazy Terry Nation poo poo
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A Steampunk Gent posted:An episode of The Next Generation actually established they do have continuity of consciousnesses through the entire transport procedure and they do keep the same set of particles throughout. Star Trek is 99% magic anyway.
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Wade Wilson posted:There's this explanation about how star trek transporters are actually these really horrifying devices in the sequel to John Dies at the End. It basically boils down to the transporter being a fax machine that shreds the original and builds the copy at the destination with whatever atomic materials are on hand. Or, if you prefer, the Canadian cartoon "To Be": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdxucpPq6Lc
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