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tarlibone posted:... which is why it is notable that they never did flesh her out, considering the numerous opportunities they had over the course of four seasons. Relatively well-adjusted teenagers aren't actually that interesting. Seems like she kinda was a ruthless riff on the girl next door love interest type.
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tarlibone posted:Well, we are discussing Rusty Venture, so.... That would be a good gag Ghost Leviathan posted:Relatively well-adjusted teenagers aren't actually that interesting. Seems like she kinda was a ruthless riff on the girl next door love interest type. I think part of the problem was that except for the yard sale episode and the stuff involving Orpheus's Master that led to her getting written off, she basically never got involved with any of the shenanigans either the Ventures or her dad got involved with, thus she never had anything actually interesting to do or say
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BIG HEADLINE posted:I'm almost certain Triana is going to come back into the show as some neophyte Sorceress Supreme or some nonsense, having her become more gifted than her father would be right up this show's alley. She’ll be arching Dean in a future Flash forward
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Cacafuego posted:She’ll be arching Dean in a future Flash forward Dean kinda strikes me as someone who could go either way and complete the path that his father refused, becoming a villain to get revenge for the normal life the heroic tradition wouldn't let him have.
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Mr. Lobe posted:but they were already exes at the time of first recording Unless you have information I don't, IMDB says they were divorced in 2008. The Venture Bros started in 2003.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Dean kinda strikes me as someone who could go either way and complete the path that his father refused, becoming a villain to get revenge for the normal life the heroic tradition wouldn't let him have. I always wanted one of the later episodes to end with a post-credits stinger where the Monarch and his wife, and his crew I guess, were sitting in the cocoon, either basking in an arching job well done or licking their wounds after an obvious defeat. Then all of the sudden, multiple malfunctions, rumbling, crumbling, and they have to abandon the cocoon quickly. As they do, you get a shot of the exterior, and it's starting to melt. It is quickly reduced to a misshapen lump of gelatinous cocoon smoldering on the ground. Pull back to a wider angle shot. The Oo-ray is humming and glowing, and it is switched off. Follow the hand up, and it's Dean, who re-aims toward the Monarch's house and reactivates the weapon, this time with a detached look on his face. As he watches the house melt, an amused smile forms, one of those "This is fun! How have I never done this before?" expressions. His deed done, he whistles and cheerfully loads the weapon into his van, pulls up the profile of the next character on the show that pissed him off, gets directions, and drives away. All it would take would be something in the episode to finally be the straw that broke the camel's back.
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I'd be much more interested in Dean just living a quiet, happy life with a family.SeanBeansShako posted:I'm still hoping this deal with the book and Dark Horse does so well they'll agree to some sort of comic when they can't do the show. I believe this show will transition wonderfully to a comic (I don't want to say goodbye when it ends okay I'm torn. I think that if the show ever got canceled and not wrapped up, then giving it a conclusion with a comic would be right up Doc and Jackson's alley and would also play to their strengths as artists and writers. With a comic they could have even tighter creative control than the show so they'd likely take their sweet, sweet time with it. But without the music, comic timing, and voice acting, I think something very special would be missing from the show and I'd probably be more interested in whatever project might be next. Though I have the feeling that whenever VB ends, Doc and Jackson are probably going to go off in their own directions.
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tarlibone posted:I always wanted one of the later episodes to end with a post-credits stinger where the Monarch and his wife, and his crew I guess, were sitting in the cocoon, either basking in an arching job well done or licking their wounds after an obvious defeat. Then all of the sudden, multiple malfunctions, rumbling, crumbling, and they have to abandon the cocoon quickly. As they do, you get a shot of the exterior, and it's starting to melt. It is quickly reduced to a misshapen lump of gelatinous cocoon smoldering on the ground. I figured that it'd be fittingly ironic he ends up arching Hank, who's become the successor to Brock Samson. Also, he becomes the new Sovereign.
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feedmyleg posted:I'd be much more interested in Dean just living a quiet, happy life with a family. Dean's a true believer in goodness and justice; I hope he doesn't turn evil. 
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I want them to be the serious adult versions of their personas in the MECHA SHIVA flashback.
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We did already have the totally-not-Hardy Boys in Self-Medication who basically seem like what Hank and Dean could end up as going just a little bit more wrong; murdering their father for refusing to let them have a normal life. (and so they can enjoy the family fortune. IIRC it wasn't clear how much which priority was what)
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Cacafuego posted:She’ll be arching Dean in a future Flash forward ...influenced by her new mistress the Velma analog from the Scooby Doo send up. yes, I know the Velma analog is likely dead
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Tendales posted:Yeah, Triana's kind of a shallow undeveloped character, but they've fleshed out even thinner characterizations before. Reminder that Ghost Robot, the one-off joke name they threw into the Captain Sunshine episode, got an entire episode to develop into a tragic figure. (fingers. fingers...) I just don't know what on earth they'd do with her at this point. Even if they wanted to have her show up as a new supervillain or something, there's not much to explore there, even in how she relates to Dean and Hank after growing up. Like, I'm sure there's a story there about how Dean meets her new self and realizes it was just a kid's crush and he's not dying to be with her anymore, but well, is it really a story we really need to hear, given how few episodes we get and how many other directions they can go with other, more interesting characters? It just seems like such a minor story beat that's already pretty much covered by the larger "Dean goes to college" arc, and it would take too much screentime to do properly for too little payoff.
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Pershing posted:...influenced by her new mistress the Velma analog from the Scooby Doo send up. Weirdly enough Action Johnny and the Pirate Captain both mention having met the canon Scooby gang. As for Velma/Andrea Dworkin, I think she and the Daphne analogue made a getaway.
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I'm so glad fans don't write this show. Myself included.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:We did already have the totally-not-Hardy Boys in Self-Medication who basically seem like what Hank and Dean could end up as going just a little bit more wrong; murdering their father for refusing to let them have a normal life. (and so they can enjoy the family fortune. IIRC it wasn't clear how much which priority was what) they were a reference to the menendez brothers who did murder their parents for the family fortune so i read their character not as aged boy detectives who were driven to murder, but as murderers who also happened to be boy detectives
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feedmyleg posted:I'm so glad fans don't write this show. Myself included. 
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feedmyleg posted:I'm so glad fans don't write this show. Myself included.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Weirdly enough Action Johnny and the Pirate Captain both mention having met the canon Scooby gang. Velma was Valerie Solanas. (Daphne was Patty Hearst). Andrea Dworkin wasn't exactly in the milieu of "murderous crazy person" that the rest of them are drawn from. She was just a second wave feminist writer who thought pornography promoted sexual violence - a pretty far cry from the murderous, visibly insane Solanas, who thought that all men should be castrated and attempted to murder Andy Warhol (along with two bystanders) because he refused to produce her stage play.
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feedmyleg posted:I'm so glad fans don't write this show. Myself included. I'm glad fans don't write this show, myself excluded, because I only write the finest Rusty/Malcolm fics.
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feedmyleg posted:I'm so glad fans don't write this show. Myself included. Yup. This thread devolves into terrible fanfic very quickly.
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Cloks posted:Yup. This thread devolves into terrible fanfic very quickly. I mean, the show is not that far off glorified Jonny Quest fanfic, so they only have themselves to blame.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Dean kinda strikes me as someone who could go either way and complete the path that his father refused, becoming a villain to get revenge for the normal life the heroic tradition wouldn't let him have. Or becoming "Incelero" or something, even though the show really wants you to *not* hate Dean, and I can't see them turning him into what Scott Evil looked like he was going to become at the end of Goldmember.
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I started playing old world Blues recently and Dr 0 got me hankering for some venture bros. The fact its back in August makes me happy.
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I own all the DVDs twice but now I put all 75 episodes on my iPad so I can carry it around the house/on transport etc to easily binge episodes. DVDs are just so inconvenient. I forgot how good Home Insecurity is. I'll have to add it to my truncated season 1 watching list I give to friends who are getting into the show.
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Foul Ole Ron posted:I started playing old world Blues recently and Dr 0 got me hankering for some venture bros. I hope you're playing with weird wasteland on so you can hear him talk about his WALKING EYE
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twistedmentat posted:I hope you're playing with weird wasteland on so you can hear him talk about his WALKING EYE Pff, Wild wild wastead is the only way to play New vegas. I'm just highly disappointed that neckerchief and speed suits are not available as attire.
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Hedrigall posted:I own all the DVDs twice but now I put all 75 episodes on my iPad so I can carry it around the house/on transport etc to easily binge episodes. DVDs are just so inconvenient. "Henchman 24 places a spider in Dr. Venture's sleeping quarters while he is asleep, while a henchman of Underbheit simultaneously places a scorpion in the same area. The spider and scorpion both crawl onto ventures bed while he is still sleeping. This is a possible reference to Star Wars: episode II (Attack of the Clones) when Bounty Hunter Zam Wesell places two Kouhuns (anthropod creatures) in the sleeping quarters of Senator Padme Amidala in an attempt to assassinate her." Frickin' nerds never watched a James Bond movie?  
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prefect posted:"Henchman 24 places a spider in Dr. Venture's sleeping quarters while he is asleep, while a henchman of Underbheit simultaneously places a scorpion in the same area. The spider and scorpion both crawl onto ventures bed while he is still sleeping. This is a possible reference to Star Wars: episode II (Attack of the Clones) when Bounty Hunter Zam Wesell places two Kouhuns (anthropod creatures) in the sleeping quarters of Senator Padme Amidala in an attempt to assassinate her." There's a LOT of terrible nerds who have never willingly seen anything that isn't specifically nerd culture.
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Pope Guilty posted:There's a LOT of terrible nerds who have never willingly seen anything that isn't specifically nerd culture. Which is doubly dumb because James Bond films absolutely fall under the purview of (fun) dumb nerd poo poo.
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Come to think of it, Jonas Venture Sr. poorly disguising himself as a Japanese man in "Now Museum, Now You Don't" might be a reference to the same Bond movie - You Only Live Twice. Except it was even more ridiculous when Sean Connery did it.
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Mantis42 posted:Come to think of it, Jonas Venture Sr. poorly disguising himself as a Japanese man in "Now Museum, Now You Don't" might be a reference to the same Bond movie - You Only Live Twice. Except it was even more ridiculous when Sean Connery did it. Sean Connery awkwardly hunching over to cover the fact that he's a foot and a half taller than every Japanese member of the cast is hilarious.
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Mantis42 posted:Come to think of it, Jonas Venture Sr. poorly disguising himself as a Japanese man in "Now Museum, Now You Don't" might be a reference to the same Bond movie - You Only Live Twice. Except it was even more ridiculous when Sean Connery did it. No might about it. There's tons of Bond references with Jonas throughout the show.
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Colonel Gentleman is pretty much a sexually liberated James Bond analogue and everything.
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Mantis42 posted:Come to think of it, Jonas Venture Sr. poorly disguising himself as a Japanese man in "Now Museum, Now You Don't" might be a reference to the same Bond movie - You Only Live Twice. Except it was even more ridiculous when Sean Connery did it. Scaramantula posted:As do we all, my thoroughly Japanese friend who is easily, easily six foot two. Scaramantula also posted:What is that, my uncharacteristically hirsuted Asian comrade?
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Oh yeah, and the supernumerary third nipple is a Scaramanga reference as well.
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Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:I'd have read the hell out of William Burroughs presents James Bond. Bond in his retirement years, totally broken as a person. Spends his days balls deep in whatever he can find, mainlining every drug ever invented. Spends his nights shaking in a corner of his room, pointing an illegal gun at the door while an endless parade of the ghosts of his past victims scream his crimes into the ether. Waiting for organisations which no longer exist to send assassins who will never come.
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