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thrakkorzog posted:They've shown before that the original Rusty Venture stories were really loving dark, cleaned up for kids, and whitewashed Jonas Sr. I think of Jonas Sr is like the difference between the James Bond movies and the James Bond books. To the public they saw the "movie" version of Jonas and Team Venture, a group of "swell" "outstanding" good guy adventurers who were brave, dashing, and charming. In a way thats the version Jonas Jr looks up to because he never saw the true Jonas Sr... the "book" version. The way it looks, the "book" version of Jonas Sr and Team Venture was that they were a bunch of rear end in a top hat thugs who had a good PR department to cover up things like the key parties, the massive violence on (kinda) innocent people. (I mean hell, Jonas Sr gassed a bunch of orphans in his basement and never bothered to rescue them!) I would love to see an episode that shows a "true" Jonas Sr and Team Venture mission, filled with drugs, sex, and questionable acts that the Venture Universe public would never have agreed to!
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InsensitiveSeaBass posted:Not only experiencing the pain of being a ghost who is also a robot, but a scientologist to boot? That would be too much for anyone to bear. The ghost works on television too, home of celebrities who might be converted to Scientology. It's the secret backstory you didn't think you'd get.
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Enough with the ghost robot poo poo, they're completely unrelated.reignofevil posted:and in season four we learned that he is actually haunted by the many deaths of his sons, so we know that Hank and Dean dying hit him probably about as hard as his dad's death. Not necessarily doubting - but when do we see this?
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Red posted:Enough with the ghost robot poo poo, they're completely unrelated. The Zombie boys floating around in his head, Orpheus pretty much deduces this when seeing them.
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 Was Tag Sale the first appearance of Augustine St. Cloud? He was seriously different back then. 'Oh cool - girly mags.'
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Jun 24, 2013 21:05
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Daktar posted:
He also had a completely different voice in that episode.
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BooDoug187 posted:(I mean hell, Jonas Sr gassed a bunch of orphans in his basement and never bothered to rescue them!) Hey, technically, M.U.T.H.E.R. gassed the kids. DrBouvenstein fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Jun 24, 2013 |
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Jun 24, 2013 21:26
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JetsGuy posted:He also had a completely different voice in that episode. Pretty much everyone in the first season did, although they gradually got closer and closer to their usual ones as it went on.
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Jun 24, 2013 21:29
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Buffy's own Sarah Michelle GellAR.
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thrakkorzog posted:Having Jonas Sr., Col. Gentleman, and Action Man beating the poo poo out of some poor pirates who felt pity for Rusty, and taking an eye.
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DrBouvenstein posted:That's because Robo-Bo isn't an actual piece of pop-culture memorabilia, it's just something created after the fact for fans to enjoy. I know there's all kinds of union rules and stuff, but would it really be hard to find a guy that's willing to do a voice, that's actually capable of it, for a whole American dollar? Just to put it on a resume or something.
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axleblaze posted:I'm about to rewatch the entire series and I started with the Pilot and while I like the pilot it contains so many elements I'm glad they moved away from. I really dislike the way Brock fits in with the family in the pilot and early on in general. In the pilot they have this weird thing where it's clear Doc has a thing for Brock and Brock could care less and that just didn't work. Also Brock's complete not giving a poo poo aobut he boys and Doc was also just kind of bad. It was much b etter when they made him give a poo poo but also had hm feel contempt. It made hm a much better character. Looking back on it, Turtle Bay is a very different beast to this episode and I am glad we got this Venture Brothers instead. Listening to Doc and Jackson waxing lyrical about Brock's pants is still hilarious though.
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Sash! posted:I know there's all kinds of union rules and stuff, but would it really be hard to find a guy that's willing to do a voice, that's actually capable of it, for a whole American dollar? Just to put it on a resume or something. Yeah, there's all these "labor laws" and poo poo. But to get specific, pretty much ANYTHING in TV/movies that's scripted requires they follow SAG rules. So that's why Doc and Jackson do a lot of voices themselves, but I still don't see why one of the lesser used VA's can't do another voice. I mean...a whole seasons' worth of line recording is, like, half a day in the studio. I don't know the specifics, but I am pretty sure it's much less to pay a VA already on payroll to do another "set" of lines than it is to being on someone new. DrBouvenstein fucked around with this message at 23:30 on Jun 24, 2013 |
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Sash! posted:I know there's all kinds of union rules and stuff, but would it really be hard to find a guy that's willing to do a voice, that's actually capable of it, for a whole American dollar? Just to put it on a resume or something. Well the thing is, the kind of guy who might be up for going through the work of voice acting for $1 might not have the best voice skills to begin with!
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Cheesus posted:"Poor pirates" that kidnapped Rusty and then attempted to extort Jonas Sr. for the ransom. Come on dude don't do this. It'd just have been better to pull up their islander-bootstraps or nobly starve right?
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Rural Greeks were pretty hosed over with the whole Cold War turning Greece into a not very nice place to live.
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Jonas Senior's job was to be professionally extorted. Super-scientist adventurers have it in their job description. 
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DrBouvenstein posted:But to get specific, pretty much ANYTHING in TV/movies that's scripted requires they follow SAG rules. Titmouse is with AFTRA, and yes I know they merged, but until the next negotiation they're honoring all existing contracts.
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It's stupid and nerdy but since I took the time to read on this I'm going to post about it. Doc and Jackson made an error on the Apollo patch on Ron's robot body. The registry number on it, CVS 11, was for the USS Intrepid which did recovery for mercury and Gemini, CVS 9, the USS Essex was the recovery ship for Apollo 7  .Edit: and yes Wally Schirra was on Apollo 7, he and the rest of the crew got a cold/flu while in space and started arguing with ground control. Wally retired after this flight but his two co-astronauts got hosed over and never flew in space again because of it. Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 00:15 on Jun 25, 2013 |
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SeanBeansShako posted:Looking back on it, Turtle Bay is a very different beast to this episode and I am glad we got this Venture Brothers instead. I would love to see an episode of Urbaniak doing Rusty in the terrible, Paul Lynde voice he practiced for a bit before auditioning and actually left in the pilots for the "They're Robot Bones!" line. I have no idea how that could be done but still.
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Cheesus posted:"Poor pirates" that kidnapped Rusty and then attempted to extort Jonas Sr. for the ransom. And they're still more sympathetic than Jonas Sr. 
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livingfruitvirus posted:Titmouse is with AFTRA, and yes I know they merged, but until the next negotiation they're honoring all existing contracts. So its a negotiation? ALRIGHT I'll WRESTLE ya for em!
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I wouldn't mind if they got one or two more voice actors for the series as a whole. Though it still is pretty impressive in the general scope of things.
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The safe on St. Cloud's ship was from the Andrea Doria, and the green thing in the display case is Sigmund the Sea Monster (the Sid & Marty Kroft kid's shows from the early 70s are gloriously weird).
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Is this the first time Col. Gentleman got called by his first name? ("Horace, lock the door")
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Install Gentoo posted:Well the thing is, the kind of guy who might be up for going through the work of voice acting for $1 might not have the best voice skills to begin with! I wonder what he spent it on... Entropic posted:Is this the first time Col. Gentleman got called by his first name? ("Horace, lock the door") I think in the Quymn episode, Dr. Quymn calls him it. Could be wrong. Frostwerks fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Jun 25, 2013 |
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Todd Alcott is over-analyzing Venture Bros episodes again.
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Just watched it, loving loved the episode.  Totally lost it at: Brock's kids. White catching fire in the sun. The claymation bit, which totally came out of left field and blindsided me. Holy poo poo.
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I don't know if anybody noticed, but the live action bit was credited to Stoopid Buddy studios, who do the work for Robot Chicken.
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This episode had a Ray Harryhausen claymation battle, the incomparable and BEST (now that 24 is dead) duo of Pete and Billy, and Jonas Sr. kicking L. Ron Hubbard's rear end. Over all a pretty bad episode, considering I'm a terrible turd toddler with bad taste.
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Cloks posted:I don't know if anybody noticed, but the live action bit was credited to Stoopid Buddy studios, who do the work for Robot Chicken. I thought I saw Seth Green's name under as a producer. I don't think I've ever seen him in the credits before. EDIT: Ah, it was for the stop motion part, it has it's own section of the credits.
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Arrath posted:Just watched it, loving loved the episode. The jokes in this episode were great. I love how they indirectly poked fun at Dermott's paternity issues and reminded everyone Brock's character flaw with the Greek kids. I've always thought that White was the least likable of Rusty's group and while this episode doesn't really make him more endearing, seeing him and Billy in an almost Bond-like death trap was so drat funny to me. It also says a bit of both Billy and St. Cloud: Billy really thinks Pete is his best friend and doesn't treat the effects of direct sun contact on Pete as flippantly as Rusty, who White considers to be his best friend. Instead of hurting Billy directly, St. Cloud probably sees White as another, more painful way to hurt Billy. Maybe he even views it as a way of damaging his "collectible." The last few seasons were impressive in how they integrated traditional animation with some CGI and managed to make it not stick out as bad as some Family Guy segments. My jaw dropped seeing them integrate hand-drawn animation with stop-motion.
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Cloks posted:I don't know if anybody noticed, but the live action bit was credited to Stoopid Buddy studios, who do the work for Robot Chicken. I noticed it as soon as billy pulled out the Gorgon Rusty. Something about the way they do head movements in stop motion is really distinct. Still, it can't be overstated how well they blended it with the venture style AND managed to make it a Harryhausen reference at the same time. Also I can't believe the amount of times I've heard the name Ray Harryhausen this week. Really weird.
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I just completely lost it at the stop motion McCloud going "Rarr."
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Entropic posted:Todd Alcott is over-analyzing Venture Bros episodes again. I love these. His writeups on other movies are great too!
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Great episode. Was a bit taken aback by the stop motion but as soon as I realized it was a Harryhausen reference it all made sense. Also, doctails. The Hot Mummy and the Slim Jim Fizz. Rusty's terrible drinks are one of my favorite recurring jokes.
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door Door door posted:Great episode. Was a bit taken aback by the stop motion but as soon as I realized it was a Harryhausen reference it all made sense. Also, doctails. The Hot Mummy and the Slim Jim Fizz. Rusty's terrible drinks are one of my favorite recurring jokes. It was a "Slim Jim Foetus" Or maybe I'm looking too hard for meta-jokes.
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I was pretty sure it was a Slim Jim Fetus, as in Jim Thirlwell. e:  Entropic!
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