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The Alchemist has the trauma of the cotton ball story.
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Sep 17, 2020 16:24
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Mantis42 posted:The Alchemist has the trauma of the cotton ball story. I mean, that's just a lovely situation - who hasn't had one of those?
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Sep 17, 2020 16:25
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Mr. Nice! posted:Team Venture You'd want Team Venture (Classic) with Jonas Venture and Team Venture (Regular). The connecting theme is that the King for both is Thadeus Venture, but Classic is Boy Adventurer Rusty Venture and Regular is, well, Doc. Classic would include Doctor Entmann, in either of his forms, and the boxing guy, Swifty, and you may want to use the others from the original Team Venture, too. The Blue Morpho, too, probably.
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Sep 17, 2020 17:50
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LashLightning posted:The Blue Morpho, too, probably. Would using Team Venture Classic in a match against a GCI lineup that had Vendata in it cause a weird chess time paradox?
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Sep 17, 2020 17:53
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Would using Team Venture Classic in a match against a GCI lineup that had Vendata in it cause a weird chess time paradox? ehr-ro ehr-ro I am the Blue Morpho
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Sep 17, 2020 18:02
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Right, Hank identifies with the suave side of Brock (and has ever since season one - "and this'll... knock em out more?" on the pirate ship or whatever it is comes to mind, he's hilariously clueless about violence) I think he's less clueless, and more kind of uncomfortable with it and hoping that whatever he's looking at is actually not violence.
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Sep 17, 2020 20:16
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Unmature posted:Honestly other than Jonas, most of the original team Venture made out pretty well considering the poo poo they had to witness. Except Otto Aquarius who became an actual Witness. Well except poor Swifty pixaal posted:But Hank is also the one that knows they see dead guys all the time and Dean is the one that insists the guys were carried away in "sleeping bags" not body bags. I think Hank has some very severe mental trauma. Show was weirdly inconsistent about that in season 1, there was also the scene where Dean tells Triana about how Brock killed a guy with a bag of party snaps, and Triana asking if it made his head explode being one of the things that made Dean fall for her
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Sep 17, 2020 20:42
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I just remembered the gag in the scooby doo episode about Orpheus getting Hector’s junk mail.
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Sep 17, 2020 23:08
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TK-42-1 posted:I just remembered the gag in the scooby doo episode about Orpheus getting Hector’s junk mail. That's why my cat is named Hector Molina.
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Sep 17, 2020 23:55
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfEc9J73BO4 Like a cheap magazine...
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Sep 18, 2020 05:30
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pablo gbscobar posted:Triana? You mean the girl who wears the same clothes every day because she’s afraid of her closet?
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Sep 18, 2020 06:35
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Pete's pretty well-adjusted, he's just kind of lazy and a Mooch. And he was the first DJ at his college to play the Bauhaus
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Sep 18, 2020 09:01
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Pete's basically the only one of the whole extended Team Venture besides maybe Billy who can be described as in touch with the real world. And certainly the only computer literate one. Incidentally, I feel like one thing that the VB writers understand is that the real fun in theoretical crossovers isn't in who would win a fight, but the ways that established characters would likely interact with one another, and what elements of their personalities and agendas would clash and provide for interesting conversation. Especially so with characters who have similar themes but different takes on them. It's one of the reasons that Goku and Superman meeting would be very interesting for reasons entirely besides how their inevitable fight would go down. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 16:02 on Sep 18, 2020 |
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Sep 18, 2020 10:05
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Rich Uncle Chet posted:Pete's pretty well-adjusted, he's just kind of lazy and a Mooch. And he was the first DJ at his college to play the Bauhaus Wow that must make him like 50
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Sep 18, 2020 16:27
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Unmature posted:Wow that must make him like 50 Venture Bros definitely has a very 00s feel even in recent seasons, especially given an implicitly sliding timescale and references to it. (and that Hank finds it easy to get a job in NYC)
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Sep 18, 2020 18:01
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Venture Bros definitely has a very 00s feel even in recent seasons, especially given an implicitly sliding timescale and references to it. (and that Hank finds it easy to get a job in NYC) No, just cool
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Sep 18, 2020 18:02
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Hank is the son of the rich guy with the giant tower named after him, it's not unbelievable.
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Sep 18, 2020 18:22
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https://mobile.twitter.com/ATT/status/1306980710813663239 This.... bodes well?
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Sep 18, 2020 18:29
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Venture Bros definitely has a very 00s feel even in recent seasons, especially given an implicitly sliding timescale and references to it. (and that Hank finds it easy to get a job in NYC) Yeah, without a sliding timescale (and maybe clones) wouldn’t Rusty be in his 60’s by now?
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Sep 18, 2020 18:32
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hughesta posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/ATT/status/1306980710813663239 That or whoever is in charge of that twitter is a Venture Bros. fan and decided to make a public statement and is about to get fired.
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Sep 18, 2020 18:36
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Yeah, without a sliding timescale (and maybe clones) wouldn’t Rusty be in his 60’s by now? It’s a quote from the show
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Sep 18, 2020 18:40
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Venture Bros definitely has a very 00s feel even in recent seasons, especially given an implicitly sliding timescale and references to it. (and that Hank finds it easy to get a job in NYC) I just noticed the other day that when Brock KOs Vendata and Vendata reboots the flash back of the plane crash has a time stamp in the 80s. It's on YouTube if someone wants to post a link, but I'm in a meeting right now and can't.
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Sep 18, 2020 19:24
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdOHniliuNE It doesn't have a date for the plane crash but it does for Movie Night. It happened in April, 1987. Rusty and the Monarch were college aged at the time so they were born in the late 60s and are about 50. But don't think about it too much, it doesn't matter.
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Sep 18, 2020 19:37
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hughesta posted:https://mobile.twitter.com/ATT/status/1306980710813663239 Maybe I'm getting my megacorp monopolies mixed up, but I thought AT&T owned WB which was the reason that Venture Bros got canceled in the first place?
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Sep 18, 2020 19:41
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PostNouveau posted:Maybe I'm getting my megacorp monopolies mixed up, but I thought AT&T owned WB which was the reason that Venture Bros got canceled in the first place? yeah, the cancelletion of venture bros was either or both because 1) the show lost its patron when the co-founder and executive of adult swim retired 2) corporate mergers. at&t bought time warner, formerly AOL time warner, the merged product of the Time media corp and Warner (of Warner bros fame) which had bought Turner media in the mid 90s, which was the original home of Cartoon Network, which was itself the parent of Adult Swim. at&t has been doing restructuring for a while and this show finally got canned but it was nothing personal really - if there's enough interest then they might as well renew the show again, or just leave money on the table so the fact that the at&t twitter account is tweeting vaguely pro-VB support is slightly promising
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Sep 18, 2020 19:53
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luxury handset posted:yeah, the cancelletion of venture bros was either or both because 1) the show lost its patron when the co-founder and executive of adult swim retired 2) corporate mergers. at&t bought time warner, formerly AOL time warner, the merged product of the Time media corp and Warner (of Warner bros fame) which had bought Turner media in the mid 90s, which was the original home of Cartoon Network, which was itself the parent of Adult Swim. at&t has been doing restructuring for a while and this show finally got canned but it was nothing personal really - if there's enough interest then they might as well renew the show again, or just leave money on the table Streaming rights was a part of it, too. ATT basically killed off anything where new seasons would stream on Hulu instead of one of its services.
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Sep 18, 2020 19:54
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ah thanks, i forgot that part - it makes the most sense of all reasons i've heard so far about the show being canceled i think of all shows, venture bros is probably the least likely to lose momentum if there's a year or two delay before the next season
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Sep 18, 2020 20:10
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What did the tweet say?
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Sep 18, 2020 20:18
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It’s probably a case of Cartoon Network getting a pre-acquisition pet project off the books to bring in something new under new creative direction, which ATT oked because it is a very small decision for their huge business. Then word comes back to the execs that the show has at least some amount of following and having a readymade creative team who can work under any level of quarantine condition already within their purview coupled with a need for content for HBO Max, whose new original movie and TV selection has been delayed by covid, is ideal. Animation is going to keep exploding with all the uncertainty around live film production.
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Sep 18, 2020 20:18
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Deathlove posted:What did the tweet say?
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Sep 18, 2020 20:20
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Deathlove posted:What did the tweet say? It was someone's generic #SavetheVentures tweet and then the AT&T corporate account replied with something like "we won't let this opportunity pass us up" and a gif of Hank looking through binoculars. So uh watch for The Venture Bros on exclusively AT&T Uverse or whatever.
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Sep 18, 2020 20:23
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AT&T would be hbo max.
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Sep 18, 2020 20:47
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While it's not Venture Bros. related, I do consider this Venture Bros. adjacent. Harley Quinn is moving to HBO Max permanently due to DC Universe dying and just got picked up for season 3. It's the only cartoon that gives me a Venture Bros. vibe so I am glad it's continuing.
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Sep 18, 2020 21:12
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Mantis42 posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdOHniliuNE Movie Night happened after the boys were cloned though. Rusty and Malcolm are younger, or at least Rusty is. Red Helper confirms Rusty is a clone. I don't know if we know for sure Monarch is.
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Sep 18, 2020 21:18
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Waffleopolis posted:While it's not Venture Bros. related, I do consider this Venture Bros. adjacent. Harley Quinn is moving to HBO Max permanently due to DC Universe dying and just got picked up for season 3. It's the only cartoon that gives me a Venture Bros. vibe so I am glad it's continuing. May I suggest: DuckTales?
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Sep 18, 2020 21:19
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Deathlove posted:What did the tweet say? Someone posted a gif about save the venture bros and ATT replied with one of hank looking through binoculars and said they weren't going to let this one slip away or something. Since it's gone I'm guessing rogue fan in control of account.  maybe it will have some PR backlash and help 
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Sep 18, 2020 21:21
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pixaal posted:Movie Night happened after the boys were cloned though. Rusty and Malcolm are younger, or at least Rusty is. Red Helper confirms Rusty is a clone. I don't know if we know for sure Monarch is. The original rusty was born in the late 50s/early 60s. The one that grew up with Malcolm was the clone. e: or Rusty was cloned after the plane crash and Malcolm's disappearance and that's why he has no memories of him.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:05
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pixaal posted:Movie Night happened after the boys were cloned though. Rusty and Malcolm are younger, or at least Rusty is. Red Helper confirms Rusty is a clone. I don't know if we know for sure Monarch is. We don't know a clone of what though. It could be a clone of a dead former Rusty like Dean and Hank are, so that would support an extended timeline. Or, Rusty could be a failed clone of Jonas (bolstered by the fact that Jonas Jr. was so much like Sr. and a parasitic twin would be why the cloning wasn't exact) making him both a clone and OG Rusty (and only ever Rusty) at the same time. Red Helper was vague on that point and it would be unlike Venture Brothers for it to be a straightforward copy of what Hank and Dean went through. My theory has always been that Rusty is a failed clone of Jonas and Malcom was the product of good old loving by Jonas with the Monarch's mother. We have other pieces that don't fit with a extended timeline caused by repeat cloning of Rusty. We've met enough people from Rusty's boyhood (Action Johnny, Hector, Swifty, Giorgios) so unless they all came into Rusty's life on his final clone iteration as a child, things wouldn't line up too well and they've never dropped hits about age discrepancies. If we want to go by what was stated in the show, he was 43 in Mid-Life Chrysalis. If we assume 2004 was the current year of the 1st season, that would make Rusty born in 1961, a teenager in the 70s, and 26 on movie night which would be a couple of years old for college, but not out of the question and that's all assuming that 2004 was the starting year. That also holds Jackson and Doc to some pretty tight timing which I'm sure they didn't have worked out by that point. Basically, there's enough wiggle room for it to go either way. ALL of that is also discounting the partial anachronistic way they've approached things on the show as well which allows even more wiggle room.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:09
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bull3964 posted:We don't know a clone of what though. It’s two years between season 1 and 7, going off the Action Man’s stroke.
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Sep 18, 2020 22:15
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If Rusty was a clone of Jonas and Monarch a son, then the DNA test would say Rusty was Monarch's father, not brother. So we're probably talking the Hank/Dean situation. There's also "Jonas Jr. was a clone, Rusty was a normal child who unexpectedly happened to be in the womb when the clone was implanted and Red Helper was misinformed."
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