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I feel like The Monarch and Rusty are definitely related somehow since, in addition to that one picture of them together as kids, they have the same hair color, the same facial structure, and the same body type (although the Monarch is in much better shape). If I had to guess I would say they were cousins and that the Blue Morpho and Dr. Venture were secret twins. Or maybe they're just half siblings and Dr. Venture and The Blue Morpho were involved in a ménage à trois with whoever The Monarch/Rusty's mother was. Because while Blue Morpho and Dr. Venture are both pretty bulky guys The Monarch and Rusty are both pretty thin, just like the red headed woman seen in the old photograph.
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Vaishino posted:Jonas is The Monarch's father, and Blue Morpho is his mother. That's my theory and I'm sticking with it for the next five years while we wait on the next season. Makes sense, he was able to pretend to be Billy Jean King while naked. Blue Morpho having a vagina really wouldn't be all that strange.
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Mar 28, 2016 16:24
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Angular Landbury posted:I was thinking how despite the Monarch's voiceover, the level 10 villains are waaaaaaay skewed, if not in their power sets then in their effectiveness. I had some real problems with the idea that Wes Warhammer and Red Death are the same Guild Level, but I chalked it up to Wes being a level 10 as a result of the Sovereign wanting to get invited to some weird as hell parties. I can buy that Wes Warhammer and the Red Death are at the same guild level. Sure they have different styles, but they're both very competent at achieving what they set out to do. Red Death wants to go out one night a year and kill a bunch of people, and he does it. Wes Warhammer wants to make some weird performance art and steal a bunch of stuff, and he does. Also, Wes Warhammer's henchmen all seemed pretty powerful in their own ways. One had boobs that could freeze things, one was an actual manic pixie dream girl, one could grow to an enormous size, one was super good at being bitchy, they're all weird but they can clearly get poo poo done.
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Mar 29, 2016 17:40
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tarlibone posted:Oh, I don't think that's enough. Hell, that couldn't get St. Cloud into Don Hell's club until after the party was over. St. Cloud not being able to get into that party had nothing to do with levels. He couldn't get in because he's a douche. They let Brick Frog in and he's almost certainly low level, but he's also a cool guy who knows how to party so who cares?
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Mar 29, 2016 23:25
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Red Death could definitely kill Wide Whale if he wanted to, but he doesn't want to. He's not interested in being anyone's boss or micromanaging a bunch of henchmen. He just wants to kill a bunch of people one night a year, and so he does. It's a pretty sweet gig, in fact I wouldn't say he works for Wide Whale so much as Wide Whale pays Red Death to not murder people the other 364 days of the year. Red Death is the kind of guy you want to keep happy.
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Mar 30, 2016 01:53
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He probably stuck Red Death on there as a precaution. Wide Whale has his fingers in a lot of pies, just in case something goes wrong (like when someone starts murdering all of the other villains you have assigned to one of your arches) it's good to have a quick and legal way to send in your number one red skelton man to take care of things. He never actually expected Rusty to take down all of those other villains, but better safe than sorry. Anyway, does anyone else feel sort of bad for Think Tank? He was really looking forward to a battle of wits, and for a villain he seemed like a pretty decent guy (it was a nice touch to have him make sure Dean would be out of harms way). Also he had a really cool sounding voice, it's a shame they killed him off...it's also a shame they killed off Battle Axe at the same time because she seemed cool too. I'm sort of hoping against hope that they both somehow survived and team up to form a villainous pair known as "Brain and Brawn".
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Mar 30, 2016 02:37
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bull3964 posted:They didn't. Oh? That's great! I must have missed the part where they showed she was still alive. Or was that revealed in an interview or something?
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Mar 30, 2016 02:48
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Has any one tried making one of Rusty's gross cocktails? because they sound awful.
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Apr 6, 2016 03:19
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Cernunnos posted:I think someone in here said a small bar near them made some around the season 5 premiere. IIRC reports indicated that, yes, they were pretty bad. What was the episode where he talked about making "a dirty bottom" or something? I can't remember what was in it, but i remember thinking it sounded disgusting.
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Apr 6, 2016 03:51
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Cernunnos posted:The "Ruddy Bottom" is a new drink from season 6. Before that it was almost always Red Moco Coolers (Kaluha, something I can't remember, and red Kool-Aid That's right! Wait, no, I don't think it was "ruddy bottom" I think it was "runny bottom" Darkman Fanpage posted:Kaluha, chocolate syrup, and red Kool-Aid. Presumably because this drink probably looks like diarrhea.
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) except in the Halloween special. I can't remember what the drinks in that were.
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Cojawfee posted:It's Ruddy Bottom. Rum, tomato juice and grenadine. Oh, still pretty gross.
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Apr 6, 2016 04:33
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It's sort of weird that Dermot is just kind of gone now. His character got a lot of focus in the past couple of seasons, and he's Hank and Dean's half brother. I never much cared for him, but it's still kind of strange to have him missing for a whole season.
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Apr 6, 2016 07:26
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Popular Thug Drink posted:they couldn't come up with contrived reasons for everyone to pack up and move to the new venture compound. dr. orpheus is more sorely missed than dermott Oh for sure, I know there's not really a reason for him to be there but I miss Dr. Orpheus too.
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Apr 7, 2016 02:53
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Crazy Ferret posted:Jefferson Twilight may actually have someone to hunt in New York as well. An episode where the Order of the Triad are tourists in New York? Sign me up!
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http://www.medievality.com/pear-of-anguish.html So apparently a "pear of anguish" is a real thing. When I first saw this list I thought the Monarch was just going to force feed Rusty a really gross pear.
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Apr 7, 2016 21:46
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axleblaze posted:Late but I just noticed that at the end of Tarzan Christopher Lambert is wearing a Speed Suit meaning that Rusty's instinct on what to wear was right on. That was the best part of the episode: it turns out Christopher Lambert actually did want to hang out with Rusty! Rusty wasn't just bullshitting: he and Chris really did have fun at that party together and Chris was genuinely intrested in being his friend. He showed up, he was wearing a speed suit, he probably would have had a great time, but Rusty forgot to leave the door unlocked so there was no way for him to get inside. It's such a brilliant case of unknowning self sabotage, classic Rusty.
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Apr 9, 2016 04:06
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LashLightning posted:I'd think he had been working for a while and the whole one night a year thing was a relatively recent occurrence. Man must have knocked over quite a few banks in his youth to be living at the standard he does now. I think another reason he's able to live such a luxurious life is because his wife is a legit celebrity. She made a cameo appearance at the party where Rusty met Chris Lambert, and when she got out of her limo people started taking pictures of her. I think there's a good chance that when the Monarch said she was a model he wasn't just saying that because she's pretty. She probably actually is some kind of wealthy/famious super model. Man, Red Death really has it all doesn't he? Bro Dad posted:Probably. One of the best slow-burn subplots in the show is that Jonas Venture was a high-functioning sociopath, and the only one who will ever know is Rusty. I'm pretty sure the other members of Team Venture knew Jonas was a sociopath, they just didn't give a poo poo. Hell, most of them seem like borderline sociopaths too. Case in point: We know we know for a fact that one of them killed a baby and another one of them seems to view the baby killing as some kind of a hilarious joke.
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tarlibone posted:Dack seeks a good time, but he's not a hedonist. He seeks love! He just doesn't know look. He looks under the profiles on Tinder and in the hot stem of a crack pipe when he should look to nature. Gentle aquatic mammals have all the answers! For some reason the death of Dr. Dugong was the most upsetting death scene on the show to me. I think it's because he's just so harmless and so frightened when the Monarch murders him. Also, I recently learned that he was Wide Whale's brother: http://venturebrothers.wikia.com/wiki/Douglas_Ong I wonder if that's the reason Wide Whale has such a huge grudge against the Monarch.
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It also plays into the whole brother motif the show has.
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Phenotype posted:I mean, I'm of the mind that Jonas' potent science means he's the father of both, but the damnedest thing is that it's not out of the question for him to have come up with super-Viagra or whatever, and actually helped Blue Morpho conceive his own child. My current theory is that Blue Morpho is the Monarch's bio father (which explains the shared overbite), but Rusty and him are still biological half-brothers via the Monarch's mother. Here's what I think happened: the blue Morpho's wife comes in for fertility treatments and Jonas does exactly what he said he would do and helps get her pregnant with the Blue Morpho's kid (because that's a fun little science puzzle for him to solve, why wouldn't he do it?). However, while he's working on her he also decided "Hey, maybe I should have a kid too! Better steal some of this broads DNA so I can make that happen!" and thus, without her knowledge or consent, Jonas took some of Blue Morpho's wife's DNA and started growing his own son in a vat. And that's why we've never met or even heard anything about Rusty's mother.
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Cojawfee posted:Rusty is kind of like Donald Trump in that his father was somewhat successful and, because of that, he has failed upwards. All of his ventures end up in failure due to his own incompetence. He thinks that he alone can do everything so he gets rid of anyone actually competent who questions him. Then he ends up taking credit for someone else's work but slaps his own name on it. Though even then, he still fails. Through sheer dumb luck, he has blundered his way all the way to the top. Also, his father was a shitbag and he is also a shitbag. Also his sons are incompetent buffoons. I think it's a little unfair to call Hank and Dean "incompetent buffoons", especially Dean who seems to be working very hard to better himself and have a life and career far removed from his lovely dad. Hank isn't really an idiot either, he's shown himself to be fairly introspective when he's not goofing around, he's pretty much just your average 20 year old trying to find his way in the world after growing up with an awful home life. I fully expect both Hank and Dean to end up as fully functional and well-adjusted adults who, unlike their dad and grandfather, aren't total assholes. The cycle of super science douche-bagery will be broken at last
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Milo and POTUS posted:I love the show so I'll be watching it any way but the only way I'll actually be happy if the venture boys pine for Sirena is if and only if ALL the venture boys pine for sirena. Hell with love triangle, make it a love square. But ultimately Sirena ends up dating Triana. Wonder if she'll be back this season, and if they'll finally have a voice actress for her mom.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Eh, the writers do mention they go through old episodes to look for ideas to develop, so they can build on old stuff without contradicting it, but there's probably a significant official and non-official element of buying your way into Guild status. Well, third. The second one he's still able to remember though.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:It would be amazing to find out that the only reason we got Rusty over JJ is because Jonas was too cheap to spring for separate clone vats. Also, called it a while back - the reason the original Team Venture treated Rusty like dogshit is because they knew he was expendable/replaceable. I dunno, I feel like the original team venture would have treated Rusty like poo poo even if he wasn't a clone, because they were all drunken jerks. Space Cadet Omoly fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Aug 31, 2018 |
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I went back and re-watched an episode from season 6, specifically the season finale where that guild member and OSI agent first meet and fall in love. They have such a cute dynamic I really hope they work things out and that neither of them die this season, but I feel like the odds of that are pretty low  especially since that guild guy is a mole.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:The only superpower Brock has is knowing when someone's in his car. I'm actually kind of digging the whole "Brock isn't Superman in NYC" thing they've had going for a while now. Brock seems pretty okay with that though, Hell he actually seems a lot happier being a big fish getting to fight even bigger fish than when he was as a big fish fighting smaller fish in previous seasons.
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Pope Guilty posted:Bring back Wariana at some point. Agreed, also: how many episodes are left in this season anyway?
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Sep 2, 2018 23:10
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I want to know what happened to Battleaxe, or did she die?
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BIG HEADLINE posted:She survived - she appeared in an episode afterwards, albeit wearing a neck brace. Good to know! Hope we get to see her crush stuff again someday.
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X_Toad posted:I wonder why Dean started a conversation with Sheila? He's so sick of the Monarch, I would have thought that he would want to stay away from her. Because she's smart and competent and he probably thought she might have good advice on his situation (which she did). He doesn't want lunatics in costumes bursting into his classroom when he's trying to study, but if one of the few lunatics in his life who's intelligent and relatively down to earth is mingling at a social gathering then hey might as well make some small talk, gotta take guidance where you can get it when your dad is Rusty Venture.
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RoboChrist 9000 posted:You say JJ isn't a psychopath but, I mean, even putting aside everything else we are shown/told he's done, just consider the most recent episode. His immediate reaction upon learning that he wont be able to murder Vendata and steal his body is to try and kill him while screaming "I WON'T LET YOU RUIN THIS FOR ME!" JJ is Jonas Junior. He was the little guy who started out as Rusty's tumor because Rusty ate him when they were both fetuses. He was just as smart as Jonas Senior, but also super nice. I really love how the show sets him up. At first you think he's going to end up being secretly evil or like trying to ruin Rusty's life, but no he really is just a great guy who's really good at running a company and gives people jobs and loves his brother very much. I also love the implication that spending your entire childhood as a tumor is less damaging to your psyche than being raised by the sociopathic Jonas senior.
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reignofevil posted:JJ had a Jonas Sr sized hole in his heart and it left him with a huge blindspot to the dude. One of the little tragedies that never really gets much spotlight. It's a complicated situation: JJ never knew his dad, so he takes the good guy persona that Jonas Sr. Presented to the public at face value and tries to feel closer to him by living up to his (fictional) example. This is, arguably, a good thing because it means JJ actually is as good as Jonas Sr. pretended to be which means he helps a lot of people and strives makes the world a better place. However, this also created a lot of friction between him and his brother because Rusty, who actually did know Jonas Sr., sees his attempts at becoming the new Jonas Sr. as whitewashing history and replacing him as Jonas's son. Of course, JJ is totally unaware of this friction because Rusty is fundamentally incapable of expressing his feelings of insecurity in anyway other than condescending passive aggression.
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tarlibone posted:Like I said before... Rusty from 1967 to 1979, his cowboy toys were the main cause of 2/3rds of all mysterious protagonist deaths. The one that took until 1987 to do its thing was a fluke. Jonas really should have bought that kid a yoyo instead.
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PostNouveau posted:Another dispatch from the book: Doc intends to write and illustrate a Guild handbook if anyone will ever pay him enough for it. I'd buy it.
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Sep 7, 2018 11:12
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My one complaint about this episode: The shopping montage with Dr. Z didn't actually happen because it looked fun as Hell, I have no idea why the other two didn't want to do it.
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Billzasilver posted:My favorite part of everything I just watched it and noticed that Dr. Z is wearing the Lion tamer's outfit in the shot after Dr. Mrs. The Monarch rejects it. I must have missed that the first time through because I was laughing too hard. The rest of the episode was great, but that sequence is my favorite of the entire season so far and likely won't be topped. Love this show.
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drrockso20 posted:St Cloud is lucky that Action Man is still in the hospital, or there's a very decent chance he would have gotten the Turnbuckle treatment Oh yeah, if Action Man had been there St Cloud would be a corpse.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Might be funny if The Monarch and 21 realise they have a knack for mentoring villains and help Sheila figure out her own arch gimmick. That really is Sheila's one fatal flaw as a super villain: She's smart, devious, and strong, but she's never been able to come up with a memorable gimmick for herself which is a real handicap in her profession.
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tarlibone posted:That took me back. I've been in bands for years (decades, really), and one thing you learn early on is that there shall be no gig without fog. Sometimes it's a lot. Sometimes it's a little. But it's so ubiquitous that after a while, I would only notice the fog if it wasn't present. Anyway, for a long time, the liquid used in every fog machine at every venue I played at was coconut scented. It was always coconut. If you were in the audience, it was so faint that you might not notice, but on stage, it was all you could smell. Well, that and cigarettes, because for the first several years that I played out, you could legally smoke inside Illinois bars. But mostly coconut. Sometimes you see something in a TV show or movie that seems so silly and ridiculous that you think it's obviously just a joke, and then later you find out it's real. Flavored Fog is one of those things for me. In retrospect it seems obvious that it's real, if you're going to be spending a lot of time in a lot of fog you're going to want that fog to smell fairly pleasant, but if you had asked me before reading the above post if the fog stage performers use had scent I would have said "nah man, that's just crazy venture brothers stuff".
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