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Captain Walker posted:What if I told you there are puzzles where knowing the solution barely even helps mitigate the My favorite is the one "puzzle" in a room we haven't seen yet where you could theoretically never be able to solve, especially if you're really dumb.  The puzzles in this game are scattered throughout the range of "That's kinda clever, actually" to "Shoot me now", is what I'm getting at here.
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theshim posted:And now we are all going to die I love how Luna's mildly disapproving face is enough to frighten everyone. 
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Mar 11, 2014 16:43
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I'm hoping Luna turns out to be the one who planted the bombs, there's a scene where she asks Sigma to go along with her setting them off, and the thread agrees because that's how much we want to avoid disappointing her.
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Mar 11, 2014 16:48
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whitehelm posted:I'm pretty sure I know where this is mentioned, and we're not there yet. It's possible someone slipped earlier in the thread though. It may well be me who slipped up. Oops! At least it's not a big deal spoiler, we can just put it down to alternate timelines.
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Mar 11, 2014 20:38
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Bruceski posted:It may well be me who slipped up. Oops! At least it's not a big deal spoiler, we can just put it down to alternate timelines. I like how Sigma needed Dio to explain to him about DNA bases then.  More for the convenience of the player, sure, but having your player character not know much but still be doing a PhD is kinda funny.
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ApplesandOranges posted:I like how Sigma needed Dio to explain to him about DNA bases then. Maybe his dad's a professor or something, and he's just bumming his way to a degree? 
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Bruceski posted:It may well be me who slipped up. Oops! At least it's not a big deal spoiler, we can just put it down to alternate timelines. It's hard trying to remember what's a spoiler in this due to how you can't remember what route something was said or when it was said or if it was in a file. The game presents details like that so out of order that you can't pin down where/when things happen and the thread is going a different way than I did so it's even worse. I try not to talk about anything unless it just happened and even then I'm still unsure.
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Listen in: [English/Japanese] Forty-five minutes remain until Ambidex Game polling closes. VLR OST: [Strain] Maybe someone from another team opened one of them. They must have found a moon card... Well why the hell would they just go and open one of the doors on their own?! We should get back upstairs. Whoever jumped the gun is probably in the warehouse. Right! Okay, let's go! The red door is weird in that it doesn't actually lead into Warehouse B. Not that this matters in the greater scheme of things but hey. Why'd you open one of the AB Rooms before the rest of us got back?! Listen in: [English/Japanese] Clover and I haven't done anything. Dio didn't feel like waiting, I guess. Yes! Yes I do have a problem! Why? I don't remember saying anything about waiting until everyone got back to open the AB Rooms. Are you kidding me? We didn't talk about it because we thought it was common sense! Sigma's right. We were able to get back quickly, but... The others could still be stuck somewhere! What if they can't get back in time?! Did something happen...? Yes... It's Quark, you see. He... What? What happened to Quark?! He collapsed. It happened so suddenly. We were just searching our room... Please, you must hurry to the infirmary! His condition could change at any moment. You should go... Oh no... And thus we once again end up with Quark hospitalized. VLR OST: [Divulgation] This whole bit happens, and Tenmyouji demands to know if anyone found any Axelavir. Since we all went to different rooms this time: I don't think anybody would put medicine there... Listen in: [English/Japanese] Was there any medicine in your room?! I'm terribly sorry. There was nothing of the sort in the archives. Books and so on in abundance, but... no medicine. Oh God... Then he's... he's going to... Oh God no... Look, just to be sure... Where did the three of you go? It was kinda like a park, with trees and stuff. But... Yeah... No medicine. Maybe some medicinal plants...? From there we move on... ...through this whole episode... ...and this whole episode... ...and we begin the search for Alice. VLR OST: [Consternation] drat! Where did she go?! K, Quark and Alice searched this room... drat... Nothing here either! We need to find her quick, or she's gonna do something bad. If she loses it like Quark did, and nobody's around to stop her... poo poo, I need to hurry! [Music fades out] Just like Clover said... Plants and stuff everywhere. I walked slowly down the path, still slightly stunned. Most of the facility had been cold, dull metal, but this room was positively... verdant. Man... Hard to believe there's something like this here... What the hell is this even for? As strange as the garden was, Alice needed to be my priority. I reined my thoughts back in, and continued down off the path and into the grass. I'd only gone a few steps when I stopped short. 999 OST: [Trepidation] Alice! Listen in: [English/Japanese] Oh, there you are. Good. I'm glad you showed up. I just got here a minute ago. She was like this when I found her. When you showed up, I was getting ready to take her to the infirmary. Then she's... uh... alive? Yeah. Her breathing and pulse seem normal. She doesn't appear to have any obvious external wounds. So she's just unconscious. Looks like it. What about the scalpel? Doesn't look like she has it. I figure she probably dropped it on the way here. Anyway, we need to get her to the infirmary. Gimmie a hand here. There's... something I need to tell you. Just stay calm. ...What? Look to the right... My right or your right? ...Your right. This... this is a bomb! Exactly. I'm pretty sure someone didn't move it here from the crew quarters. In fact, I'm pretty sure it's an entirely different bomb. Look at the number on the side. It says "01". poo poo! Then there's no question, huh? I've got more good news. Just think about the numbers for a moment... You're saying there's a "02" bomb out there somewhere! I can't be sure, but it does seem pretty likely. Damnit... That means we're talking about an explosion the size of three tons of TNT. Yeah... Clover, Tenmyouji and Dio investigated the garden. There's also a chance someone else set it. Anyone could have come here after they left, and before we showed up. ... Anyway, we need to move Alice. Help me out here. [Music fades out] And so Alice is bought back to the Infirmary. Since nobody went to the Laboratory on this route, we have no Axelavir and we don't know about the IG Replicator. VLR OST: [Desperation] Listen in: [English/Japanese] Oh, Alice... I don't want you to die! Please... Please don't die! I don't want to be alone... Don't diieeeeeeee!
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Mar 12, 2014 02:21
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... Wow, that was a weird update. I mean, I totally expected Fedule to cut off with a cliffhanger when he got to the bomb, but no, he just kept on going. Trippy. 
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Mar 12, 2014 02:29
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Figured that given how other routes lately have been going, the bomb wouldn't be that big a shock. 'Sides, this makes the next update a bit tidier too.
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Mar 12, 2014 02:33
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So the bomb doesn't show up if we explore the garden with Alice but it does when Clover, Tenmyouji and Dio do. Wasn't the [1] bomb somewhere else on a different path?
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Mar 12, 2014 02:35
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...Have the bombs only ever shown up in rooms that we know Phi has been in? 
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Mar 12, 2014 02:37
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Super Jay Mann posted:So the bomb doesn't show up if we explore the garden with Alice but it does when Clover, Tenmyouji and Dio do. It was the [2] bomb. We found it in the laboratory in this update.
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Mar 12, 2014 02:46
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Damnit, Phi has the scalpel, doesn't she. Stop being so suspicious, Phi. However, these bombs seem a little large for people to be smuggling inside their clothes. I think they're being planted after the rooms are cleared and unlocked, meaning anyone is still a suspect.
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Mar 12, 2014 03:36
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Stabbey_the_Clown posted:Damnit, Phi has the scalpel, doesn't she. Stop being so suspicious, Phi. That would still raise the question of how they're smuggling them around til they're being planted. Dio would be my first peg because his coat looks like it could fit something of that size, and because it's Dio. However, there's a much tighter timeframe to plant the bomb in the B. Garden since Phi says she's the first one there. That implies Phi, or one of Tenmyouji, Clover and Dio, who could have done it while exploring. I'm going to discount a delirious Alice since she wouldn't have been able to plant the one in the Lab in the alternate path.
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ApplesandOranges posted:That would still raise the question of how they're smuggling them around til they're being planted. Dio would be my first peg because his coat looks like it could fit something of that size, and because it's Dio. All Dio had to do was be the last person out of the room. Its him, I'd bet money on it. And him actively trying to murder everyone would explain a lot about both his rear end in a top hat behavior, and that little murder spree way back when.
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Mar 12, 2014 08:38
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At this point I have to put forth that there are actually multiple people trying to kill everybody. There's the bombs, there's Radical-6, and then there's the conventional grievous bodily harm. Either that or one person who's all-out paranoiacally thorough.
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Glazius posted:At this point I have to put forth that there are actually multiple people trying to kill everybody. There's the bombs, there's Radical-6, and then there's the conventional grievous bodily harm. Reminder that a Nonary Game only works when the people involved are in real danger or at least believe they are in real danger. What I'm saying is Zero probably set this up in a way that they could all die. At least one of the participants is a robot, one is probably a murderer (Dio) and at least three have Radical-6. Alice, Quark and Sigma (Unconfirmed)
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All players please enter your votes. If no vote is recorded before the deadline has passed, any non-voting parties will automatically ally. VLR OST: [Sinisterness] Listen in: [English/Japanese] What about Alice and Quark? I guess we're just gonna have to leave them behind. Clover... I'm staying here! Like heck I'm gonna leave Alice all alone! S-She's going to be fine... I gave her some Soporil. She'll just be sleeping like Quark-- I don't care! I just... I just want to stay with her... She shouldn't have to be all by herself... ... I see... Dio and Tenmyouji's opponent in the next AB Game is Clover. If she doesn't vote, then she'll default to "ally". Which, I don't think I need to mention, would be pretty favourable for Dio. If she stays, he's got an easy round... You think I'm gonna chose "betray"? Yeah, I do. Am I wrong? Yes! Of course I'm going to pick "ally"! For one, Tenmyouji's going to be in there with me! I can't just ignore his opinion and make my own choice! Right...? I can't leave Quark here when he's like this. I'll be staying, just like Clover. Hey, c'mon now, what is this...? Knock it off, Dio. He's too smart to let you make a scapegoat out of him. Yes? What if Dio stays behind too? If Clover, Tenmyouji, and Dio all don't vote then... everyone allies, right? Oh? You... don't know? K-Know what? This. You didn't find a note like this one? We found it in the archives. Well there sure as hell wasn't anything like that in the garden. We didn't find one in the control room either. Apparently only the archive had one... What does it say? Why don't you read it for us, Sigma? We, of course, already know what it says. Listen in: [English/Japanese] At least one member of each trio must vote. Otherwise... That means K has to vote. Quark and Alice certainly aren't in any condition to. K's got 6 BP right now... His opponent is going to have to default to "ally"... You needn't worry. I have every intention of choosing "ally". Oh give me a break! You expect us to just swallow your bullshit?! Oh dear... Dio, please think for a moment. You do realize that Alice only has 1 BP, don't you? If I were to betray her, what would happen? Therefore, I will definitely choose "ally". Indeed, I really have no choice. Unless, of course, I wish to become a murderer. [Music fades out] Clover, you're going to have to go vote for us. Huh...? What does that mean?! What, did I use big words? ...? Listen in (it's satisfying!): [English/Japanese] VLR OST: [Consternation] Listen in: [English/Japanese] B-But... You and K are in the same position now. I've only got 1 BP, just like Alice. Interesting... So long as Tenmyouji doesn't vote, Clover's only choice is to choose "ally". Hmm. Admittedly, there is a chance she might kill me... Are... Are you saying you trust me with your life? That's about the size of it. You don't need to worry about Alice. I'll keep a good eye on her, I promise. Now get moving! ... You still don't trust me? N-No... That's not it at all... I trust you, I just... Come on! ... Okay... Take care of Alice. She'll be fine. Yeah. Yes, we do. Then let's go! The sixth, which would have been Alice's, remained unopened. K and Clover quickly entered the second and third from the right, and Luna and I headed toward our own... Listen in: [English/Japanese] You're going to choose "ally", right? Y-Yeah, why do you ask? Of course we are. You promise? ... ... Sure. Cross your heart? Cross my heart. You're gonna be in a world of hurt if you double-cross me. Don't sweat it. I'm a man of my word. Listen in: [English/Japanese] 999 OST: [Chill and Rigor] Well, I don't have a choice, do I? I promised. I said I'd choose "ally". Yes, but... Phi has 6 BP. If she betrays us... Yeah, she'll have 9 points. I know. Right. ... What do you think we should do? I... It's your decision, Sigma. I'll be in the same position either way. What? That means if we betray Phi and she chooses "ally"... Then I would have 9 points. Yes. You see? In either case, I could end up with someone in my group reaching their goal. ... Are you sure this is okay with you? ... ... ...Yes. All right. Ten seconds remain until Ambidex Game polling closes. (What am I going to choose...?) Nine... Eight... Seven... ("Ally"... or "Betray"...) Six... Five... Four... (This is impossible!) Three... Two... One... We trust Phi... don't we? Fedule fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Mar 15, 2014 |
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Mar 12, 2014 23:45
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Tenmyouji is so awesome. Anyway, we have to vote Ally. We promised.
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Mar 12, 2014 23:51
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C'mon people, how often do we get a chance to get 9 points? Betray.
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Mar 12, 2014 23:53
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Argh. I want to trust Phi, I really do. But how badly does she really want to get out? The bombs could change everything. ... *sigh* Fine, I'll trust her. I will be pissed off if this ends up being another "you picked the wrong choice either way" thing. Stabbey_the_Clown fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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Clarste posted:Anyway, we have to vote Ally. We promised. You heard Luna. We can get to 9 if we Betray and Phi doesn't. The opposite of course is true. Voting to Betray means that in the worst case scenario, we just stay where we are and in the best case we can just leave if we wanted to. Or, to put it simply, voting Ally here is the wrong choice to make unless you want Phi to win for some reason. e; I'd be more surprised if Phi hadn't realised that by now, honestly. She's probably going to betray for similar reasons anyway.
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Come on have we learned NOTHING? There's no chance we're ever actually escaping without everyone else, they'll just knock us down. Vote Ally, don't be a dick,
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Mar 12, 2014 23:57
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Tenmyouji just jumped to the top of my 'favorite characters' list. That was so satisfying. In other news, we did promise. Even if we get betrayed, we're not gonna die.
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Dragonatrix posted:Voting to Betray means that in the worst case scenario, we just stay where we are and in the best case we can just leave if we wanted to. In practice, choose Ally to watch K punch Phi in the gut again. Choose Betray for him to drag Sigma's face across the floor.
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What do you think the chances are of Phi picking Ally if we pick Betray? The game has already demonstrated that it's totally okay with changing someone else's vote based on ours. We're not getting out this fast. Better to Ally and let Phi be the bad person, which is likely.
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maswastaken posted:Assuming no post-voting retribution, sure. You do realize that K's probably gonna betray himself and get 9 points no matter what we choose, right?
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Mar 13, 2014 00:09
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This is the closest we've been to victory so let's betray.
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Clarste posted:You do realize that K's probably gonna betray himself and get 9 points no matter what we choose, right? It would mean consciously choosing to kill Alice though. From what we've seen of K I'm not sure he's going to cross that line. So far only Dio and Alice are. And there's no risk of Alice waking up early again to Betray again, since even if she did she would still be under radical-6.
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Clarste posted:You do realize that K's probably gonna betray himself and get 9 points no matter what we choose, right? "So... I guess I'm the only one here guilty of murder. You won't tell anyone about that when we call for help, right? Right?" maswastaken fucked around with this message at 00:38 on Mar 13, 2014 |
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Mar 13, 2014 00:16
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Let's get all this betray out of our system. It probably would have been smart for Sigma and Phi to stay outside and leave the voting up to Luna and her 5 points, but this is a pretty good system they have here. Just one person responsible for the voting in 2/3 of the teams and minimal head games.
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Mar 13, 2014 00:25
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Why don't we just ally and (hopefully) let Phi escape, then we can go back and see what circuitous route betrayal would have taken us on.
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Mar 13, 2014 00:41
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Let's Ally - Phi is obviously supposed to be our waifu in this game, and I want to see K say "Peace out, y'all!" and leave everyone in the dust when he betrays
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Mar 13, 2014 00:43
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Chill and Rigour playing at this part freaked me out when I got to it.
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Mar 13, 2014 00:45
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Oh, come on, Phi is totally going to betray us and get the gently caress out of here.
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Mar 13, 2014 00:51
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I'm voting to choose Ally because I'm a predictable person like this, even though it's likely Phi will jump out and call us a dumb-face.
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Mar 13, 2014 00:54
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Based on everything Phi's said so far there's pretty much no way she won't betray us, even if only to make sure that she doesn't let K out alone. I'm totally happy allying though because I like her better than Sigma.
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Mar 13, 2014 01:09
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Tenmyouji must be pretty ripped for an old guy, if he can knock out Dio in one punch.
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Penakoto posted:Tenmyouji must be pretty ripped for an old guy, if he can knock out Dio in one punch. Well according to him, he hauls junk around for a living. That probably involves lifting a lot of heavy things.
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