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VLR OST: [Anxiousness] No question these are Chromatic Doors, I guess. Listen in: [English/Japanese] So it seems. I've been here the whooooole time. S-Seriously? I didn't notice you at all. (Rrrggh...) ... So, what do you want? Why are you stalking me? I'm not stalking you. I just followed you here. That's pretty much the same thing. But... how did you do it? You were totally silent... I already told you I'm not. Remember? Back in the AB Room when we met. Yeah. Actually... Graffiti? "MEMENTO MORI IF THE NINETH LION ATE THE SUN" Did a kid write that or what? Why do you say that? Well, they managed to spell "ninth" wrong. Who puts an "e" in there? You're right... Then again, maybe it means something. Hmm... ... Do you know what it means? The Latin part. Hey now, give me a little credit. Even I know what "mememto mori" means. You see it all over the place... "Never forget that we all die some day." I guess it's sort of a cautionary thing? What about the other part? It's exactly what it says on the tin, right? Some sort of conditional about lions and suns. Hmm... ... No, nothing. Nothing at all. What about you? Me? Well, let's see... Memento Mori... if the nineth lion ate the sun... Memento Mori... if the nineth lion ate the sun... I repeated the words over and over in my head, but... nothing. Whatever they meant, it was beyond me. But perhaps Phi... Listen in: [English/Japanese] Huh? Don't you know Latin? Maybe you can help figure more of it out. Well, I know a little. More than most people I guess, but I'm not an expert. Then how'd you know that phrase? Elapsem semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere. Oh. That. That's from... um... this. She unpinned the brooch from her chest as she spoke, and held it out to me. I hesitated for a moment, then took it. Listen in: [English/Japanese] I turned it over... So I guess the "I" is pronounced like a "J" in Latin, huh? Yeah. What is this? A memento of my late mother. Well, I guess it's something like a memento. What does that mean? She died right after I was born. I was raised by foster parents, and they told me where the brooch had come from. Apparently it was the only thing my mother had left behind... ... ... What about your father? Don't have one. I guess you could say I was a bastard. I never saw his face, and I don't know his name. I don't even know if he's alive. O-Oh... I couldn't think of anything else to say, so I just handed back the brooch. Whenever I had to make a tough decision, I'd say it to myself. Sometimes I'd just repeat it, over and over, like a chant. Before long I had it memorized. It got me interested in Latin, and I started studying the language... ... Elapsem semel occasionem non ipse potest Iuppiter reprehendere. "Not even Jupiter can find a lost opportunity." Sounds nice, doesn't it? ... It seems kind of funny now. [Music fades out] I mean, look at us... We've done what Jupiter can't ... ... That's why I followed you here. I thought it would be a good idea to talk to you about all this. Alone. Yeah. I agree. There's something else we need to do to, though. Find the number two bomb. Exactly. You're saying we should go somewhere else? Yeah. ...
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# ? May 3, 2014 23:17 |
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# ? Apr 25, 2024 06:02 |
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Man, Phi is da bomb (2). Not literally, though. That'd be really weird.
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# ? May 4, 2014 00:01 |
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The True Ending of this game clearly involves getting Phi to admit that she's Batman.
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# ? May 4, 2014 00:01 |
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Man, this place is just full of latin speaking or inscribed things.
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# ? May 4, 2014 00:01 |
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"Now, if everybunny will look at this diagram of the inside of your bracelets, you'll see an inscription with the Lapin phrase 'Ego enim tradam brachium sinistrum'. I carrot tell you what it means, so you'll have to figure it out for yourselves!"
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# ? May 4, 2014 00:27 |
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Imbibo vestri Ovaltine.
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# ? May 4, 2014 01:06 |
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It's going to turn out Phi's dad is related to the Nonary Game somehow, isn't it? He's gonna turn out to be Dio, isn't he?
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# ? May 4, 2014 01:25 |
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Calling it now, the morphogenetic fields + robots + whatever means the people playing this Nonary Game are not even from the same time period. Therefore Sigma is Phi's father and Quark is Tenmyouji's younger self This is probably wrong as all hell but it's the type of thing I'd expect from this type of story at this point.
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# ? May 4, 2014 02:12 |
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Super Jay Mann posted:Calling it now, the morphogenetic fields + robots + whatever means the people playing this Nonary Game are not even from the same time period. Therefore Sigma is Phi's father and Quark is Tenmyouji's younger self Don't be stupid. Sigma is Phi's Son. And Quark is Tenmyouji's father, which is why he's trying to protect him, to preserve his own existence.
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# ? May 4, 2014 02:18 |
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Super Jay Mann posted:Calling it now, the morphogenetic fields + robots + whatever means the people playing this Nonary Game are not even from the same time period. Therefore Sigma is Phi's father and Quark is Tenmyouji's younger self This is so stupidly plausible.
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# ? May 4, 2014 02:24 |
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The Nonary Game is an elaborate metaphor for a child dying of an incurable disease. On the moon.
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# ? May 4, 2014 02:36 |
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I thought Phi wanted to talk to Sigma alone about the premonition weirdness, but it seems instead that they're going bomb hunting. Maybe they'll do that on the way? I doubt it though, it's more likely they'll get interrupted by a dead body.
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# ? May 4, 2014 02:45 |
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I do wonder what the hell's up with that graffiti. Maybe it's some kind of anagram or acrostic or when you look at it under ultraviolet light only certain parts of it glow? Also it seems like the endgame of this is going to be Sigma and/or Phi consciously passing information from one possible timeline to another, which is super boss.
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# ? May 7, 2014 03:08 |
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Alright, brace yourselves. We're heading into an infodump I've had to split into three updates - not for length, just for, like, density and stuff.
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:12 |
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Now where the hell do we start looking... Listen in: [English/Japanese] I doubt it really matters. If it's here, we'll find it eventually. So what about that Jupiter stuff? We can talk while we look. Now get started. 999 OST: [Digital Root] Our consciousnesses seem to be able to jump through time. ...No, sorry, "through time" isn't really accurate. It's more like we move through worlds. Worlds? Yes. I don't mean physical planets in this case... I'm talking about a whole different universe, really. Parallel worlds. Wh-What...? Well... kind of... I think I've heard of it once or twice... Hmm... Oh well. I'll just explain it. Let's say... Hm... ... Uh...? Scratch your head, cross your arms, put your hands on your hips, anything. I had no idea what this was supposed to explain, but I did as she asked. Hrm... I could put this up for a vote... ...But come on, now. Let's be realistic about this. Listen in: [English/Japanese] W-Was that supposed to be... moonwalking? Yeah. I'm pretty good, huh? Uh... yeah... sure... But you might want to try going backward next time, not forward. Were you even looking? I was going backward. Watch... *Slide* *Slide* *Slide* ... I'm... just going to pretend I didn't see that... Anyway you just did the moonwalk, right? But you could have chosen to scratch your head, or cross your arms. Now maybe there are other Sigmas, in other worlds, who did all of those things. All of these worlds and realities are branching off from one another. The choices you could have made branched off from the moment you decided what you were going to do just now. ... ... Each of those branches is an alternate world. A world where a version of you did something different. ... Haven't you ever thought about what life would have been like if you'd made different choices? What if you'd gone to this high school instead of that one? What if you hadn't started a study group? What if you hadn't told that girl you liked her? Or are there other worlds out there where you did those things? Anyway, that's the many-worlds interpretation in a nutshell. I've simplified it a lot. ... I just used your actions to make the explanation easier to grasp. The actions of a cat, the flight of a bee, the movement of a microorganism, even fluctuations in air tempretature... all these can change history. Whoa whoa whoa... Hold on a second here. I'll let microorganisms slide, but there's no way that air is conscious of anything. ...What? All of your actions are caused by the cells in your brain. If we go down a little further, then you could say all of your actions are the result of atoms, or electrons, or smaller particles we haven't even discovered yet. Are those atoms and electrons still you making a decision? At that level how different are you from the air? I'd say not much. ... Human existence is just one part of reality. Falling in love is like a tulip blossoming. A tulip blossoming is like tornado forming in South America. See what I'm say? That's where history happens. That's where universes branch out. ... [Music fades out] Oh. Uh... No, not yet. Well keep looking while I talk. How familiar are you with quantum physics?
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:12 |
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Oh boy this is going to be something.
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:26 |
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It's not that dense, is it? Just your basic alternate timeline stuff.
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:27 |
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This scene is peak Zero Escape. Oh we're just looking for a bomb and chatting about theoretical science while we're at it. For quite a while. It's like VLR's version of the freezer scene in 999.
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:35 |
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Didn't 999 have a massive infodump in the library/archives-equivalent room too?
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:43 |
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Please tell me that each action you can do for Phi has an entire route associated with it rather than just dialogue changes
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:45 |
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See, this is where Clover's knowledge of how and why certain people can jump through time would actually come in handy here - she actually knew two of them, after all. Clover is the worst secret agent.
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:47 |
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Podima posted:Didn't 999 have a massive infodump in the library/archives-equivalent room too? I think so, in the true end route?
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:52 |
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Fedule posted:
Right now all possible Sigmas in all possible worlds are moonwalking. No exceptions, no variance - total convergence.
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:55 |
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Podima posted:Didn't 999 have a massive infodump in the library/archives-equivalent room too? In the True Ending after you meet Snake again, yes.
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:58 |
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Hereford posted:Please tell me that each action you can do for Phi has an entire route associated with it rather than just dialogue changes Yes and we just missed out on getting The Real Best Super-Great Ending, thanks Fedule now I see what vote you wanted to force. (the answer is obviously no...or is it)
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# ? May 8, 2014 01:59 |
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VLR OST: [Clarification] Listen in: [English/Japanese] I'll try and keep it simple for you. Hmm... Let's see... ... I handed the box I'd been examining over to her. She set it down on the desk and opened the top. Perfect. He's part of felidae too. With that she grabbed the lion and tossed it unceremoniously into the box. She also took a weight and an ink jar, and put them in next to the lion. Listen in: [English/Japanese] Ready...? Remember that book in the crew quarters about Schrödinger's cat? It relates to all this stuff I've been talking about. Anyway, come look at the box. What about looking for the-- This'll only take a minute. Now look. I shrugged and peered into the box. Well, there's a stuffed lion. From now on that's a cat. A living cat. This is important. Got it? Yeah, it's a cat meow. Oh man... This again? Sorry... I cat help it. I find that hard to believe... Ugh. Fine. Maybe I can just ignore it. Fur what it's worth, I'm sorry... ... A weight that's not even a paw-nd, and a jar of ink. Right. Now, the weight is going to be radioactive material. And the jar of ink is full of poisonous gas. What?! I'm kitten out of here! Idiot. It's not really full of gas. This is just hypothetical. Imagine that it's full of gas. ... So, what's the weight? Radioactive material. And the jar of ink? It's full of poison gas. Exactly. Good work. If it's struck by any of the α particles the radioactive material admits, it'll break. These particles are emitted randomly, but there is a fifty percent chance that one of them will come into contact with the jar over the course of an hour. So let's close the lid... Here's the question: Is the cat inside the box alive or dead? You can't open the box to check. *knock knock* And you can't hit the box. *rattle rattle* Obviously you can't shake it either. It's also been soundproofed, so the cat could be howling up a storm in there and you'd never know. Basically, you have no idea what's going on inside the box. Do you remember what happens if the α particles hit the jar? It breaks, gas fills the box, the cat inhales it, and death will whisker away. And what if the jar doesn't break? The cat lives to tell the tail. Ha ha... And what are the chances of either of those things happening? About fifty purrrrcent. Uh-huh. So what's your answer? Is the cat alive or dead? I can't purrsibly know-- Then guess. It's not hard. Alive or dead? Let's be an optimist. Listen in: [English/Japanese] Nope. You're wrong. It's dead? That's wrong too. Then what's the right answer? The answer is that it's in a state where it is neither dead nor alive. ...What? How does that make any sense? We don't know if an atom is spinning upward or downward until we measure it. Before it's measured, those two possibilities coexist. But as soon as the measurement is taken, obviously only one possibility is the truth. Since we can't know when they were emitted, or where, we only know the probability that they'll impact the jar. Because we can't observe anything that's happening in the box, that becomes the entire system. In other words, the box is like the atom: We don't know how the cat's life-or-death situation has resolved itself until we look at it. Until we do, it's just a bunch of possibilities. Do you get it? ...Then it's both alive and dead. Right. So let's open the lid... ... ...
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# ? May 9, 2014 00:39 |
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Oh god, the infection has spread. The world will never be the same.
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# ? May 9, 2014 00:49 |
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Clarification is such a great track. Also, I missed the cat puns. One of Sigma's better purrsonality quirks.
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# ? May 9, 2014 00:59 |
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W.T. Fits posted:Clarification is such a great track. Sometimes it's fine, but this is really no time to be kitten around.
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# ? May 9, 2014 01:26 |
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If you people don't stop, I'm going to claw my eyes out.
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# ? May 9, 2014 01:35 |
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It's kind of an unfurrtunate curse, but Siggy can make the meowst of it.
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# ? May 9, 2014 01:36 |
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Meooow
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# ? May 9, 2014 01:37 |
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Schrodinger: "...and the cat being both/neither alive and/nor dead is absurd, so this thought experiment shows that there are flaws with current theories of quantum mechanics." Lab guys: "Mister Schrodinger sir, we've just figured out some new tests to do and it appears that the current theories are correct including that weird stuff which couldn't possibly be correct." Schrodinger: "Nobody's going to let me live this down, are they?"
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# ? May 9, 2014 01:48 |
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Remember, every time you use Schrödinger's cat to explain quantum mechanics, you insult both Schrödinger and quantum mechanics.
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# ? May 9, 2014 04:47 |
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And the Moon Theory evidence just keeps on adding up.
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# ? May 9, 2014 06:23 |
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Kay Kessler posted:
Maybe we're in a state where we're neither on the moon nor not on it.
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# ? May 9, 2014 07:17 |
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Kay Kessler posted:
Sigma's moonwalk was terrible though. Maybe that's evidence against the Moon Theory.
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# ? May 9, 2014 07:18 |
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whitehelm posted:Sigma's moonwalk was terrible though. Maybe that's evidence against the Moon Theory. Terrible in a very specific way. When most people try and fail to moonwalk, they just shuffle backwards. Sigma manages to slide forward without even knowing that he's doing it. His moonwalk is so dorky it wraps back around to smooth.
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# ? May 9, 2014 07:53 |
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Super Jay Mann posted:Maybe we're in a state where we're neither on the moon nor not on it. Not on the moon.... Not off the moon.... Does that mean we're...inside the moon? Is VLR ripping off Majora's Mask now?
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The Watercrown posted:Not on the moon.... Not off the moon.... What did you think K stood for?
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