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roomforthetuna
Mar 22, 2005

I don't need to know anything about virii! My CUSTOM PROGRAM keeps me protected! It's not like they'll try to come in through the Internet or something!


Dr. Fishopolis posted:

Anyway, this is a discussion for the VR thread, not the laptop thread, so this'll be my last reply on the topic here. Sorry for perpetuating this silly derail.
Yeah, sorry for bringing it here, I didn't realize it would be a derail. And thanks everyone who responded because I found two related interesting products I was previously not aware of as a result!
(I don't think it's a discussion for the VR thread either, the content there is all about stuff that's probably even less related to anything I'm interested in than this derail was to the interests of people looking for laptops! Maybe should have been its own short thread.)

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roomforthetuna
Mar 22, 2005

I don't need to know anything about virii! My CUSTOM PROGRAM keeps me protected! It's not like they'll try to come in through the Internet or something!


To make up for my derail, there's a cheap 4GB chromebook on meh today, as of 2 minutes ago.

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003


Grimey Drawer

roomforthetuna posted:

To make up for my derail, there's a cheap 4GB chromebook on meh today, as of 2 minutes ago.

So I'm looking for a tiny portable laptop to use on airplanes and carry around all die. The catch: I need it to arrive by the end of the week.. do y'all suggest this one? A different one? Cheaperer is betterer as long as it can do basic poo poo like web and email etc and maybe watch movies on the airplane?

Delthalaz fucked around with this message at Oct 15, 2018 around 17:35

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!


Delthalaz posted:

So I'm looking for a tiny portable laptop to use on airplanes and carry around all die. The catch: I need it to arrive by the end of the week.. do y'all suggest this one? A different one? Cheaperer is betterer as long as it can do basic poo poo like web and email etc and maybe watch movies on the airplane?

Meh won't guarantee shipping times like that, and I'm not sure what a chromebook would use to watch movies offline, but maybe someone who has one can help there. There's 11 and 14" HP Stream laptops on amazon prime for reasonable prices. They use low power CPUs and soldered in RAM and eMMC storage but they generally fit your use case.

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003


Grimey Drawer

Rexxed posted:

Meh won't guarantee shipping times like that, and I'm not sure what a chromebook would use to watch movies offline, but maybe someone who has one can help there. There's 11 and 14" HP Stream laptops on amazon prime for reasonable prices. They use low power CPUs and soldered in RAM and eMMC storage but they generally fit your use case.

Thanks! Do you recommend any one in particular?

Rexxed
May 1, 2010

Dis is amazing!
I gotta try dis!


Delthalaz posted:

Thanks! Do you recommend any one in particular?

The OP suggests the Stream 11 so I'd shoot for the most up to date one of those as possible with as much ram and storage as you can get without getting fleeced. Also the Asus X205 is mentioned there, although I'm not sure if it's still regarded as highly. It looks like with the Stream 11 the 32GB of storage models are $160-180 depending on seller and color, the 64GB is a little more expensive, but for windows 10 you really want 64GB of storage if you can get it. I've had my mini pc get failed updates and had to reinstall with only 32GB.

I'm going to tentatively suggest this one, bearing in mind that I have not used it before. It seems to fit your goals but perhaps another poster will have a better suggestion or more advice:
https://smile.amazon.com/HP-Stream-.../dp/B077J58D17/

100% Dundee
Oct 11, 2004


Delthalaz posted:

So I'm looking for a tiny portable laptop to use on airplanes and carry around all die. The catch: I need it to arrive by the end of the week.. do y'all suggest this one? A different one? Cheaperer is betterer as long as it can do basic poo poo like web and email etc and maybe watch movies on the airplane?

I'm pretty much in the same boat but I have more time to play with, so I'm all ears to anyone who has suggestions for this kind of use scenario. Essentially I just want a cheap-ish, simple laptop to primarily take on vacation for general browsing/email/video playback and PLEX streaming from my home server. Once my vacation is over I'd probably toss it in the living room and hook it up to the TV, using it rarely but for essentially the same uses(occasional browsing/email/video playback/PLEX). Ideally sub-$500 but lower is better of course.

What I've been searching for is essentially:
- Modern-ish Intel Mobile Processor(7th or 8th Gen) -- I've been mainly looking at the i5 variants, are any of the i3 tier mobile processors worthwhile?
- 8GB+ RAM - I'm not opposed to getting something with 4GB and buying an additional stick and tossing it inside as long as it's fairly easy and it makes sense pricewise. I'm looking for that just from general experience using Win10 and anything less than 8GB seems to take a huge performance hit. Some of the ones I've been looking at say they have 16GB Intel Optane SSD Memory but then only 4GB of actual RAM, what does that translate into performance wise?
- Some form of SSD - I'm not too particular if it's a 2.5in SATA drive or a NVME M.2 unit, again I'm not adverse to purchasing this later and adding it in. I don't think that should be an issue, SSD prices have tanked and I wouldn't need more than a ~128GB drive or so. Could probably get away with a ~60GB drive honestly, again I'm not planning on really using this computer for much and definitely not storing any large amounts of data on it. If anything it would just be a few movies/tv shows/etc for playback when I cannot access my PLEX and I could always throw that stuff on a spare thumb drive if it came down to it.
- 1920x1080 Resolution screen preferrably
- Decent battery life - Enough to play at least a few movies or a handful of TV shows(like ~4-5 hours would be plenty).

I've been checking the Dell Outlet like a hawk every few days and watching prices, is there anywhere else good I should be looking around? Any specific models? The one's I keep seeing pop up that meet most/all of those characteristics are the Inspiron 13" and 15" or the Latitude 12" and 13". I'm not in a huge rush as my trip isn't coming up for a few months so I'll probably try to wait for some black friday/cyber monday/christmas type deals coming up, but it'd be really nice to know what to look out for!

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



Delthalaz posted:

So I'm looking for a tiny portable laptop to use on airplanes and carry around all die. The catch: I need it to arrive by the end of the week.. do y'all suggest this one? A different one? Cheaperer is betterer as long as it can do basic poo poo like web and email etc and maybe watch movies on the airplane?

outside the box serious post: a tablet, probably kindle fire

E: If a kb/mouse is paramount to your happiness, fintie makes a good bt keyboard/folio case and whatever cheapo bt mouse. I do this sometimes when i want a keyboard but not my laptop for whatever reason. It is good.

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009

Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!


100% Dundee posted:

I've been checking the Dell Outlet like a hawk every few days and watching prices, is there anywhere else good I should be looking around? Any specific models? The one's I keep seeing pop up that meet most/all of those characteristics are the Inspiron 13" and 15" or the Latitude 12" and 13". I'm not in a huge rush as my trip isn't coming up for a few months so I'll probably try to wait for some black friday/cyber monday/christmas type deals coming up, but it'd be really nice to know what to look out for!
For under $500 try a used Thinkpad t460 or x260 e.g. this.

Clark Nova
Jul 17, 2004



Rexxed posted:

Meh won't guarantee shipping times like that, and I'm not sure what a chromebook would use to watch movies offline, but maybe someone who has one can help there. There's 11 and 14" HP Stream laptops on amazon prime for reasonable prices. They use low power CPUs and soldered in RAM and eMMC storage but they generally fit your use case.

My Chromebook* will play mp4 videos natively with a builtin video player app if you copy them to the hard drive. It'll play anything if you install a Crouton desktop and VLC.

*Intel; not sure if ARM has the same capabilities

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003


Grimey Drawer

Statutory Ape posted:

outside the box serious post: a tablet, probably kindle fire

E: If a kb/mouse is paramount to your happiness, fintie makes a good bt keyboard/folio case and whatever cheapo bt mouse. I do this sometimes when i want a keyboard but not my laptop for whatever reason. It is good.

Why would a tablet be better than a cheap notebook?

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



Delthalaz posted:

Why would a tablet be better than a cheap notebook?

For the use of browsing web/email/movies on plane the weight and form factor lend itself considerably better to it imo. Its also a good e-reader which would be decently convenient in that sort of situation as well. Good battery life, durability. Also theyre comically cheap.

Practically disposable theyre so cheap, imo. I actually have the x205 that was mentioned earlier as well. It is solid and good but the annoyingness of carrying its proprietary charger around cant be understated. My other recommendation would be something that charges off of USB-C, which at a cheap price point basically means chromebook, which afaik is basically Not Great for watching movies that are stored on it afaik. Love to be wrong on that tho!

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003


Grimey Drawer

Rexxed posted:

The OP suggests the Stream 11 so I'd shoot for the most up to date one of those as possible with as much ram and storage as you can get without getting fleeced. Also the Asus X205 is mentioned there, although I'm not sure if it's still regarded as highly. It looks like with the Stream 11 the 32GB of storage models are $160-180 depending on seller and color, the 64GB is a little more expensive, but for windows 10 you really want 64GB of storage if you can get it. I've had my mini pc get failed updates and had to reinstall with only 32GB.

I'm going to tentatively suggest this one, bearing in mind that I have not used it before. It seems to fit your goals but perhaps another poster will have a better suggestion or more advice:
https://smile.amazon.com/HP-Stream-.../dp/B077J58D17/

Thanks- I'm seriously considering that one.

What do you think of this?

https://www.amazon.com/VivoBook-E20.../dp/B07B2GRSTJ/

I can't figure out what the real difference is between them tbh

Statutory Ape posted:

For the use of browsing web/email/movies on plane the weight and form factor lend itself considerably better to it imo. Its also a good e-reader which would be decently convenient in that sort of situation as well. Good battery life, durability. Also theyre comically cheap.

Practically disposable theyre so cheap, imo. I actually have the x205 that was mentioned earlier as well. It is solid and good but the annoyingness of carrying its proprietary charger around cant be understated. My other recommendation would be something that charges off of USB-C, which at a cheap price point basically means chromebook, which afaik is basically Not Great for watching movies that are stored on it afaik. Love to be wrong on that tho!


I guess I'm hesitant to go for a tablet because I'm needing the productivity functions of a laptop too - keyboard, excel and word. I suppose the google chromebook has all of those with google drive and google apps, which I use, but I also use onedrive and word and poo poo on my main computer, so a cheapo windows 10 machine has appeal for me there as well.

Delthalaz fucked around with this message at Oct 16, 2018 around 04:16

Statutory Ape
Sep 12, 2017



Delthalaz posted:

Thanks- I'm seriously considering that one.

What do you think of this?

https://www.amazon.com/VivoBook-E20.../dp/B07B2GRSTJ/

I can't figure out what the real difference is between them tbh



I guess I'm hesitant to go for a tablet because I'm needing the productivity functions of a laptop too - keyboard, excel and word. I suppose the google chromebook has all of those with google drive and google apps, which I use, but I also use onedrive and word and poo poo on my main computer, so a cheapo windows 10 machine has appeal for me there as well.

that laptop you linked is basically an x205 with 2x the ram and storage - i would still use my x205 for certain things if it had 4g ram

also fwiw i was making the tablet recommendation based on

quote:

Cheaperer is betterer as long as it can do basic poo poo like web and email etc and maybe watch movies on the airplane?



I agree its a bad suggestion when you consider the productivity requirement

Delthalaz
Mar 5, 2003


Grimey Drawer

Statutory Ape posted:

that laptop you linked is basically an x205 with 2x the ram and storage - i would still use my x205 for certain things if it had 4g ram

also fwiw i was making the tablet recommendation based on




I agree its a bad suggestion when you consider the productivity requirement

Ahh yeah I should have clarified I want basic functions like that in my initial post. So I guess at this point I'm torn between the ASUS VivoBook E203NA-YS03 and the HP Stream 11 Pro G4 11.6".

I noted that the HP Steam 11 got a better review from Laptop Mag: https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/laptops/hp-stream-11
than the ASUS VivoBook: https://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/l...vivobook-e203na

Not sure I understand the reason for the ratings. It sounds like he trashed the VivoBook because he doesn't like the webcam.

Unless someone has a better suggestion for a cheapo tiny laptop in this range...

E: thanks for the help folks! I made my purchase. I'll let you know how it goes...

Delthalaz fucked around with this message at Oct 16, 2018 around 17:53

KingSlime
Mar 20, 2007
Wake up with the Kin-OH GOD WHAT IS THAT?!

What's this thread's opinion on the Surface laptop? I adore the way it looks, and am considering just springing for the $800 boring gray edition because I don't need an insane amount of oomph, and that gorgeous blue model is not worth an extra $400. I might get it for Black Friday but am also happy to explore other options.

This device is specifically for my freelance work (technical and professional writer) so it has to be Windows. Otherwise my Acer r11 would have sufficed, god I love that thing. But I need something that can run full office + really any writing or image editing software I might need to get poo poo done for clients. Mostly just full office though, tbh Google docs suffices for 85 percent of my needs. It's that 15 percent that is making me go, oh gently caress it I should have a full blown OS since I make money through this poo poo.

I do want a touch screen, 12.5 to 14 inches, as gorgeous of a display as I can get, awesome battery life, and an enjoyable typing experience. I guess I'd also be dumb to not get an SSD plus minimum 8 gigs of RAM while I'm spending the money.

Oh yeah gaming is a non issue. I have a Switch (tm) for that nonsense

Budget is $600 to $1200, the lower the better! Any generic boring laptops I should look at first before getting the slick and potentially overpriced surface laptop? I do like the 3:2 aspect ratio on it...

I hear the Alcatraz keyboard or whatever it's called isn't the most durable since it's a fuzzy type of leather cloth but I can live with that.

KingSlime fucked around with this message at Oct 16, 2018 around 17:59

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Mark Larson
Dec 27, 2003

Interesting...

Automatonic Water posted:

Is buying a laptop even worth it anymore? It seems like I'm buying a laptop every 3 years or so, looking for the sturdiest components, best build quality, specs that will remain relevant, etc. and yet they inevitably go to poo poo as soon as the warranty expires, either by the entire case falling apart or the internal components setting themselves on fire.

I believe these two bits are related. If you try to cram the fastest components into a laptop you will either end up with something you don't want on your lap because it's heavy thanks to the insane cooling system, or that you don't want on your lap because it fries all your baby batter.

I've split up my computing into various little devices and it still costs less than a proper gaming laptop. One console, one laptop with a decent processor for work, one tablet for reading and Netflix, and one desktop for everything else with two monitors.

If I'm working it is very simple to git commit and go over to the desktop and continue working. If I'm gaming that can be done on the Xbox, or on the desktop. If I'm reading an article its simple enough to go from the desktop to the couch with the tablet.

All of that also means that if something goes wrong the damage is not as much as it would be for a huge expensive laptop.

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