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VulgarandStupid
Aug 5, 2003
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Just how big is an OSX install? I wouldn't mind going the Air route, but if you only get a 128GB, with both a Windows and OSX install, you're gonna get pinched for space.

Does the Air take an mSATA SSD, and is it user replaceable?

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VulgarandStupid
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SSDs will make almost any computer seem fast in anything that isn't being processor limited, and you've removed the bloatware. My dm1z has a Kingston SSD+ in it, which is not a particularly fast SSD and its been great.

VulgarandStupid
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QuarkJets posted:

You'd probably be better off buying a cheap Chromebook, and then if you want to watch DVDs buying an external DVD drive. Total cost would be about $200, or you could skip the dvd player (who uses DVDs still?). According to a guy in the laptop thread, it can play FTL and Killing Floor (surprisingly) with no issues, so no "real gaming" but still pretty nifty for such a cheap package.

It's refurbished like the Dell that you linked to, but that's really not a huge issue for a laptop that's less than $200 to begin with.

Aren't you paraphrasing out of context? The guy with the chrome book seems to be talking about doing these things on Ubuntu which requires less overhead for the OS than windows. The guy you are replying to linked a windows computer...

VulgarandStupid
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PiCroft posted:

I've been looking into starting independent app development and for this I'd like a Mac. Pretty much everywhere I look says a Macbook Air is the shiz, and for an excellent laptop to take down for weeks away at my parents in lieu of taking my big fuckoff desktop it seems like an excellent choice for wanting to play Skyrim and XCOM without bringing the aforementioned beast with me.

It meets all my requirements for power, portability, ability to use Windows and the ability to develop App Store apps etc so my only concern is price.

Configuring it on the apple store gives me a cost of > £1550 for the i7, 512 Flash memory and 8Gb RAM and was wondering what people thought, if this was a good config or if I should lower the i7 to i5 or the memory to 4gb bearing in mind my aforementioned game desires.

I was able to run xcom on my dm1z. It ran like poo poo, but it was turn based so whatever. It's not really a demanding game.

VulgarandStupid
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Naffer posted:

Notebookcheck has their German review of the Zenbook infinity up now. Here's a translated version: http://www.microsofttranslator.com/...k.102304.0.html

Most people in this thread will be interested in the results for the 28W Haswell chip it's packing. In general, it's 20% faster than the 17W i7 in the 2013 MacBook Air. In games the Iris 5100 GPU is also about 15-20% faster than the 4400/5000 (which are often nearly indistinguishable) but it isn't night and day. The Iris Pro 5200 is still about 70% faster than the Iris 5100, which seems to suggest that the GPU desperately needs memory bandwidth.



Which laptops actually have the 5200?

VulgarandStupid
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I don't see the appeal of these ultra high resolution displays. I have a 27" 2560x1440 monitor and I always find myself leaning in. I can't even imagine a higher DPI on a screen one quarter the size.

VulgarandStupid
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So how much faster is the new mbpr over the air? Also, any word on battery life?

VulgarandStupid
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Aren't the MBA and mbpr 13s just $100 apart?

VulgarandStupid
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Just in case anyone wanted a nearly 1tb ssd, there's one on sale for only $485.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/104920/adorama---960gb-crucial-m500-sata-2.5-internal-solid-state-drive-ssd

VulgarandStupid
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P.N.T.M. posted:

y410p, $750 model. Check the B&N link in the OP. If you will bring it into school, get the laptop sleeve for traveling.

It will play WoW at Ultra settings and more. Win8 takes a little getting used to, good news is that they ship it with 8.1 installed.

There's no sli option for the y410p, right?

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evol262 posted:

Board layout is easier, it lets them save thickness.

You also don't have to make a panel to service that area.

VulgarandStupid
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Just ordered an xps 12 for 699.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/110...page=3#comments

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Vinlaen posted:

Hopefully this is a pretty good deal (since I just bought one)...

Dell XPS12 for $699 at the Microsoft Store: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Dell-XPS-12-XPSU12-4668CRBFB-Touchscreen-2-in-1-Core-i5/productID.288325100

12.5-inch Full HD touchscreen
Intel Core i5-4200U (Haswell)
4 GB memory/128 GB SSD
Over 8.5 hours battery life

I grabbed that as well, on Saturday. It has better battery life than the yoga, a "worse" screen and is $200 cheaper. I don't really need a laptop with a higher resolution than my 27" monitor, which I already think is too high at 2560x1440.

VulgarandStupid
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On my 2560x1440 monitor, 150% scaling causes problems with a lot of games, namely the cursor disappears. That's on win7 I don't know if anythings been improved for 8.1.

Anyway, a lower resolution screen requires less horsepower to play games at native resolution. Since we're not pushing 750m SLIs, this is probably a good thing.

VulgarandStupid
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Hard drive failure isn't something that should warrant a extended or accidental warranty. A broken hard drive is just an opportunity to replace it with an SSD. SSD prices are falling, although not as quickly as they were before. Also SSDs have no disadvantages from HDDs other than price per gigabyte. Plus, no warranty will ever get your data back. SSDs are generally more reliable and can take more abuse, so if not losing your data is a priority and you don't need huge space, you should get an SSD off the bat, whether that's a factory upgrade or aftermarket. You can also always supplement your storage with SD cards, slim USB flash drives or putting a hard drive in an ultra bay caddy. I should be getting my XPS 12 soon, it unfortunately it only has 2 USB slots, no card reader and no ultrabay. We'll see how I'll do with just the 128gb SSD.

Unfortunately, I think the motherboard or the power jack, which is part of the motherboard is the biggest wild card.

Also Best Buy has some nice laptops that were discussed in this thread, mostly the Macs, Yoga 2 and XPS 12. Generally we're talking about the exceptions.

VulgarandStupid
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tesilential posted:

EDIT: I tried the Y2P at 3 different Best Buys, and at each the display model had the Internet Explorer app disabled and the machine wasn't connected to the internet. Was that best buy trying to prevent people from realizing the high resolution made websites too small to comfortably browse? Every other Lenovo or other Windows machine was connected the internet so I found it a bit suspicious and no one could tell me why.

It's to keep people off Facebook, installing programs and looking at porn.

Have you tried setting the scaling to 200%? You can do it in font options, which you can click the link in display properties to get to. To get 200% you need to do custom. If that doesn't do it for you, try setting the resolution to 1400x900.

But I agree, the screens are getting to too high of a resolution for no real reason other than Apple is doing it. Unfortunately, Windows scaling is bad and a lot of programs like Photoshop don't scale. It's kind of disappointing that Ultrabook manufacturers don't understand the products they are making, put expensive components in then pass the costs on to consumers while trying to cut corners with things like cheap wifi cards. Realistically the only choices at 14" and under should be 1400x900, 1920x1080 and 1366x768. The last choice being for cheap asses and old people.

VulgarandStupid
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There's no good way to use it on your lap, and tablet mode isn't good enough for his productivity needs. I'm guessing.

VulgarandStupid
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If battery life is a problem, she shouldn't be using any type if spinning drive.

VulgarandStupid
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Sterf posted:

Yeah, I guess spinning drives would be kind of a drain on the battery. Not sure if those external drives even work on chromeos too. Going to stick to the original plan and steer her to a chromebook/ripped dvd's I think. And maybe something like this if she really needs more juice between charges later on.

Thanks.

Have her rip the DVDs only while she charges.

VulgarandStupid
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Midnight City posted:

Okay, so I got the ASUS Transformer Book T300LA-DH51T and no, no I shouldn't have. it's probably entirely my fault but a hybrid tablet just isn't working for me.

What I'm needing is something in the 15" range, IPS/led screen, SSD, with either the 5200 Iris or standalone GPU (a low model, nothing jet enginey) and in the $1,000 range. Anyone have any ideas?

That's what we all want but it doesn't exist.

VulgarandStupid
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I'm pretty sure everyone in this thread thinks the ATIV is a nice proof of concept, but it's too expensive. The yoga 2 pro is cheaper and better in most ways, has a possibly useful form factor but gets worse battery and is something like 2/3 the price. And if you're set on spending that much money, get a MPB and install windows on it.

VulgarandStupid
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The Samsung Ativ 9 Plus is on sale for $1000. Still seems overpriced to me compared to the Yoga 2 or Dell XPS12 deals.

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/117...x1800-128gb-ssd

VulgarandStupid
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ellic posted:

I'm not well versed in hard drive performance between SSD types, is this a bad hard drive? Has it affected your performance?
I ask so I can know more for my customers in the future when an option is given to choose between the two as often is for higher end Latis and Percisions.

It shouldn't really effect anything. But between a 2.5" and an msata SSD the 2.5" is usually cheaper.

VulgarandStupid
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You can replace an HDD with SSDs pretty easily and cheaply these days...

VulgarandStupid
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It looks like Alienware is going to take external video cards to the next step. Although, at $300 just for the dock and the size that's almost as big as a mITX computer, I don't know if it's a very attractive item.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8653/alienware-graphics-amplifier

VulgarandStupid
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His desktop most likely used a 3.5" drive, in which case that won't work.

VulgarandStupid
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More importantly, if you're not buying a laptop until April, ignore this thread entirely until March.

VulgarandStupid
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Grundulum posted:

Wow, things change that rapidly and dramatically?

Thanks to you and sarehu for the info.

Yes and no. If a design cycle is a year, then we're talking not quite a half a year, but a new model might come out and be better than all of the recommendations now or prices may shift dramatically. There is no point in getting your heart set on something right now when clearly you have time to wait and see. It's entirely possible nothing may change between now and then, but why worry about it now?

VulgarandStupid
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roomforthetuna posted:

It really isn't. You can't even fit the common Facebook-game sized panel on screen without full-screening the browser window.

How many other things do you need to be doing while getting your Facebook stalk on?

VulgarandStupid
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Antignition posted:

Hey this is pretty crazy timing as I've been thinking about picking up a thinkpad over the next few weeks. Since my budget is pretty low I was planning on scouring the outlet for a T440/E450 over the next month and seeing if I can find something decent under $400/500.

Most of my research has been on the 440 and not the 420. Is there anything on the 440 that would be worth an extra $200-300? It's going to be my primary school laptop for the next 3 years while I earn my Computer Science degree.

EDIT: Resolution isn't great but if that's the only problem I'd say thats worth the price difference.

That processor is 2 generations old, so it's gonna run warmer and get less battery life than the Haskell equivalent, oh and the onboard graphics are dooky.

VulgarandStupid
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Intel announced its next half generation of mobile/laptop chips, with a pretty big improvement on built in graphics.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8814/intel-releases-broadwell-u-new-skus-up-to-48-eus-and-iris-6100

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Bob Morales posted:

You'd have to use a capture device like the Elgato Game Capture HD

It would probably be cheaper to buy a cheap monitor or TV. Also, just use a TV if you have one.

VulgarandStupid
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My guess is it will be a 940m since that's what all the other guys are doing. Maybe they'll have it clocked 100mhz higher and call it a 945m, but I severely doubt it's a 960m with the amount of cooling it has.

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Edward IV posted:

They actually have a sample test which gives you some idea using Dota 2.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/9732/the-microsoft-surface-book-first-look

From the looks of it, the Surface Book's GPU is about noticeably more powerful than the GeForce 940M but about 16% slower than the 950M. So, it'll be just barely good enough for 1080p if you turn down the graphics settings but there's no way it'll do the full 3000x2000 resolution.
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-940M.138027.0.html
http://www.notebookcheck.net/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-950M.138026.0.html

On the other hand, it does look like a nice step up from the GT 555M in my Alienware M14x and considerably better battery life.

Don't forget that if you were to use 1080p on the SB it would be 1440x1080, not 1920x1080, so you're looking at only 3/4 the pixels.

VulgarandStupid
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I was looking to spend half as much in a laptop, since I don't really need one, but when I saw that XPS 13 deal I jumped.

VulgarandStupid
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I ended up ordering a Inspiron 13 for $500 off of Slickdeals through Dell. SD negotiated a $100 rebate, so it comes out to $400, with nearly the same specs as the XPS13. For basically half the price, I'm willing to give up some lightness, compactness and battery life.

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Wamdoodle posted:

Whoa, how did you manage that?

Also, question for the thread, what are the downsides to this similarly priced Inspiron 13: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store...iDay_DellInsp13
Seems to have better specs than the XPS 13. I'm guessing durability and battery life are what was sacrificed. Also wifi driver support if the reviews on that page are to be believed.

It's on the front page of slickdeals.net.

I guess my wording is confusing and it should have read "for $500, off of...." But at the same time it's not entirely incorrect. The base price is like $900, then a coupon knocks it down to $500 and then you get a $100 rebate.

The XPS is a smaller machine with the same screen size. It has less of a bezel, as well as better battery life. It can't flip over or whatever, and doesn't have a touch screen my default. It also has better materials, build quality and weighs less.

VulgarandStupid fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Mar 15, 2016

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Initial reports are saying the Razer Core will cost $500 without a video card. It is also the size of a mini-itx computer anyway...

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BottleKnight posted:

I'd still heavily consider it if it works on my XPS 15.

You could almost build a mini-itx PC for that much...

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According to this video, the XPS 13 can use thunderbolt video cards... Whether or not things like the Razer Chroma have anything that can block that, I don't know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dn0nO1ev5bQ

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