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Maybe my memory is a bit hazy, but aren't several of those Robin/Deathstroke animations identical to Batman to begin with? Namely, the wall-jump, face-punch, and twisty, horizontal, whack-guy-from-across-the-room onces in particular, only Robin/Deathstroke have a bo in their hands. I might not have as high expectations as others, though. I was surprised how full-featured and unique Knightwing's moveset was in City since I was expecting just a reskin. But even with different animations, Robin was always just an analogue for Batman anyway. He ended up playing exactly the same in the Harley's Revenge campaign, hiding in grates and grappling to gargoyles to pick off individuals. If they were really to make a new playable character it would be more significant to remove and add abilities that require the player to change their strategy, rather than re-animate the same set of actions.
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BreakAtmo posted:They are, and the Vita version will almost certainly look substantially better unless they made the game for the 3DS and the Vita version is just a lazy hack-job that looks the same but runs in 544p. This is the case.
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Disco Cat posted:If they were really to make a new playable character it would be more significant to remove and add abilities that require the player to change their strategy, rather than re-animate the same set of actions. Like Catwoman, right? She still had to switch up between pure melee and Predator combat but she didn't have the same gadgets as Batman and I think she was meant to be weaker in raw strength but faster in hit rate. I'd like to see how Nightwing would travel in a city environment. He doesn't have a cape so I'd like to see how he would kill his fall or drop from a building onto a guy at street level.
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All four Saints Row games were designed by Volition. A much stronger comparison would probably be the Treyarch-developed Call of Duty games. They started out with rather weak entries in the franchise - World at War and CoD 3 superficially ape Infinity Ward while completely lacking any talented level design or enthralling pacing. But Black Ops and Black Ops 2, for all their detractors, are at this point a different flavoured concoction of the same drink. Personally, I still prefer Infinity Ward's entries, but I've got plenty of friends who'd argue that Black Ops 1 and 2 are much more enticing offerings. And while I largely thought Arkham City was a brilliant sequel (all of the gameplay enhancements, in particular), the storyline left a lot of potential unused. And although I'm dreading playing yet ANOTHER Batman game that promises a minimal Joker presence only to watch the Clown Prince take the plot hostage - I can't say I'm not looking forward to seeing what Origins does with the Batman mythos.
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I'm wondering how they get around the ability to grapnel-boost around the city, since that (fabulous and super-fun) upgrade was still a prototype in City. Don't make me regular-grapnel the whole game!
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redbackground posted:I'm wondering how they get around the ability to grapnel-boost around the city, since that (fabulous and super-fun) upgrade had just been invented in City. Don't make me regular-grapnel the whole game! I didn't enjoy transit at all in City, to be honest. It was a cool idea but doesn't change the fact that you'll just be gliding uneventfully through the air most of the time.
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Oct 20, 2013 23:29
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Samurai Sanders posted:I figured fast travel via the Batwing was meant to replace that? Different strokes I guess, I found it really fun getting to my destination across the city without touching a building.
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Oct 20, 2013 23:34
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Terminally Bored posted:I think the boss fights will be fun in this game, if it's not just PR speak: This is sick news, the Mr Freeze fight was probably the best part of Arkham City, hands down. Glad they recognised that and they're working from it.
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Boing posted:This is sick news, the Mr Freeze fight was probably the best part of Arkham City, hands down. Glad they recognised that and they're working from it. Yeah, this is fantastic news. As much as I adore this franchise, the boss fights have always been a glaring weak spot with the exception of the Freeze fight.
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Oct 20, 2013 23:56
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redbackground posted:I'm wondering how they get around the ability to grapnel-boost around the city, since that (fabulous and super-fun) upgrade was still a prototype in City. Don't make me regular-grapnel the whole game! It's my understanding that they're just gonna handwave it with a different name, the Grapnel Accelator, but have the gameplay be exactly the same as in City because they realize in this instance gameplay's probably more important than that comment by Batman in City. So never fear.
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Beeez posted:It's my understanding that they're just gonna handwave it with a different name, the Grapnel Accelator, but have the gameplay be exactly the same as in City because they realize in this instance gameplay's probably more important than that comment by Batman in City. So never fear. Origin's Batman already looks more armored up than Asylum's or City's. I completely forgot about it being experimental.
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redbackground posted:I'm wondering how they get around the ability to grapnel-boost around the city, since that (fabulous and super-fun) upgrade was still a prototype in City. Don't make me regular-grapnel the whole game! Replaying Asylum at the moment and I keep trying to boost my grapnel each time I use it 
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Oct 21, 2013 00:15
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Action Tortoise posted:Origin's Batman already looks more armored up than Asylum's or City's. Well according to the developers, they designed him to look less sleek, like his armor has more parts to it and is more noticeable and bulky.
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Stroth posted:He does use guns if he needs to. But the game already has Deadshot, we don't need another crazed gunman. The staff does the same thing here. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA1E5ZArgsQ MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 00:23 on Oct 21, 2013 |
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Beeez posted:Well according to the developers, they designed him to look less sleek, like his armor has more parts to it and is more noticeable and bulky. I feel like there's going to be some in-game explanation for why he opted for a sleeker outfit.
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Action Tortoise posted:I feel like there's going to be some in-game explanation for why he opted for a sleeker outfit. He stated in City he preferred less armor on his suit because it lets him move better.
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Have they announced what time they're releasing Origins on the 25th? I assumed either midnight Pacific or Eastern, except the Steam countdown suggests noon Central, which seems like an odd time for the release of a AAA title.
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QuantaStarFire posted:Have they announced what time they're releasing Origins on the 25th? I assumed either midnight Pacific or Eastern, except the Steam countdown suggests noon Central, which seems like an odd time for the release of a AAA title.
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Sonel posted:It will be 10AM pacific time which is normal for steam releases if it's not a midnight release. So whenever Valve's store resets then? That's odd, and kinda disappointing. I enjoy midnight launches. 
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Oct 21, 2013 01:31
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I checked the last 4 pages and didn't see this posted: European PC-DVD, WiiU, and 3DS versions of the game will be delayed to November 8. PC download, PS3, Xbox 360, and Vita versions will still come out this Friday in Europe.
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Oct 21, 2013 03:35
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The One Million skin will be available to everyone who logs in with a WBID account.
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Oct 21, 2013 04:34
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Have they shown any in-depth or relatively raw footage of the weird multiplayer they're shoving into this thing?
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Orv posted:Have they shown any in-depth or relatively raw footage of the weird multiplayer they're shoving into this thing? There was a PC Beta, but all the responses were extremely negative. I wouldn't hold your breath on it being any good.
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Oct 21, 2013 05:05
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Is the multiplayer like, a bunch of Batmans all running around batmanning each other?
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Samurai Sanders posted:Is the multiplayer like, a bunch of Batmans all running around batmanning each other? No, that actually sounds fun.
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Samurai Sanders posted:Is the multiplayer like, a bunch of Batmans all running around batmanning each other? No. There are two sets of goons from Joker and Bane gangs fighting and then someone playing Batman and someone playing Robin who is trying take down both sides. At least at last check it was a real disaster. The abilities were extremely poorly balanced and there were some basic conceptual ideas which just didn't work. This was the Beta and it probably saw balance before release but it seems difficult to buy it'll be very good. It is being done by an entirely different team from the main game.
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seal it with a kiss posted:The One Million skin will be available to everyone who logs in with a WBID account.
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Orv posted:Have they shown any in-depth or relatively raw footage of the weird multiplayer they're shoving into this thing? There were videos on Youtube from the beta, not sure if they've been deleted.
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redbackground posted:Because I'm a dumb dummy--how does this work with just buying the game off Steam? It'll be an in-game login.
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Oct 21, 2013 05:23
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redbackground posted:Because I'm a dumb dummy--how does this work with just buying the game off Steam? If it's like other WB games, you log into WBID in-game.
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redbackground posted:Because I'm a dumb dummy--how does this work with just buying the game off Steam? In-game you have the option to log in with a Warner Brothers ID, which is the system they use for Gotham Imposters, Infinite Crisis and a couple other things. Steam or not, doesn't matter.
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Okay, cool. Thanks.
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The multiplayer is being developed by Splash Damage, of Brink infamy.
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Watched some videos of the beta, fairly disappointing stuff. I love asymmetric multiplayer and if stealth is involved it's basically my favorite kind of multiplayer in existence, so that's a real shame. I think a better option would have been 7v1 thugs vs Batman in more claustrophobic environs, or something of that nature.
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seal it with a kiss posted:The multiplayer is being developed by Splash Damage, of Brink infamy. And just like Brink the Arkham multiplayer is so close, but in the end completely worthless.
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If this is anything like the previous Arkham games, then I'm going to end up with 100-200 hours put into this game, and people will probably mistakenly think I play the multiplayer (I won't be) 
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I'm still over here shaking my fist about the multiplayer achievements. Let alone the quality of it.
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Are there screens of all the alternate suits/costumes somewhere online?
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El Tortuga posted:I'm still over here shaking my fist about the multiplayer achievements. Let alone the quality of it.  Zsinjeh posted:God fuckin damnittttaaaaarghhhhhhhhhhh multiplayer achievments gently caress  they're also the kind of achievments where you have to grind to x amount of levels, probably max so you can't really cheese it with goons in a couple of games. Zsinjeh fucked around with this message at 09:13 on Oct 21, 2013 |
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Also gently caress if I can never get those achievments months later when multiplayer is dead.
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Literally all I'd ask for in multiplayer is two-person co-op challenge rooms so that we could get some huge Batman and Robin dynamic duo teamups going. Is that so much to ask? It can't be that hard to do. :-(
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