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 Scheduling New Episodes air on ABC Family, Tuesdays at 8 pm eastern, Seasons 1-3 are available on Netflix Instant.  Because this season is already underway, some of the information in this OP reflects revelations from the first episode or two of season 4. If you haven't watched them yet, go do it!About Alison DiLaurentis went missing one summer night during a sleepover with her friends Spencer Hastings, Aria Montgomery, Hanna Marin and Emily Fields. Her body was found a year later, buried in her own backyard... a few days after her friends started receiving texts from someone calling themselves "A" who has intimate knowledge of things that only Alison knew. "A" is everywhere, and nowhere, and knows everything. Even their darkest secrets. Especially their darkest secrets. And "A" isn't afraid to let the girls know it. Unlike most "Teen Girl Killed in Small Town" shows, Pretty Little Liars is less about the local law enforcement and more about the teen girl's friends, and how they're coping. And their love lives. And the whole "getting stalked by an anonymous ghost." It's a fun mix, and there's not too much like it on TV. At the end of season 2 it was revealed that Hanna's best friend Mona Vanderwaal was "A"... and that she was working for someone in a red coat. Season 3 went full on crazy by introducing a second Dead Teen Girl, introducing the mysterious Red Coat who just might be The Real A, having A dig up Ali's grave and steal her remains (she sent Emily a necklace made of Ali's teeth!), revealing that Spencer's boyfriend Toby Cavanaugh is also working on the A Team, Spencer having a total mental breakdown and joining the A Team herself (don't worry it was just to get closer to the truth), and most importantly:  Alison might be alive. Characters A note: The cast is pretty big, and getting bigger even as the bodies are piling up. However, only about half of these characters are in play at any given time (there's a lot of "Oh,by the way how is ______ doing down in Florida?" and "My parents are in New York this week." Pretty Little Liars  Spencer Hastings An overachiever from one of those highly competitive families. Constantly makes out with her older sister's boyfriends. Seems to be the most focused on solving Ali's murder, but finally snapped after discovering her boyfriend, Toby Cavanaugh, was actually part of the A Team. Then she snapped again when she believed that Mona had killed him. Then she joined the A Team and found out that Toby was still alive and she got better after they had sex to a Lana Del Rey song.  Hanna Marin Former fatty who became the It Girl after Alison disappeared. Kind of an airhead, but it's balanced by her being a really genuine person who's been walking through fire to protect the people she cares about. I think she gets it from her mom. Had a shop-lifting problem earlier on, but she seems to be over it. Used to be BFFs with Mona Vanderwaal, but the whole "serial stalking her and her friends" sort of put a cramp on that.  Emily Fields Member of the swim team and the sweet one. She's sort of designated as the athlete even though Spencer also played field hockey. She can otherwise be identified as "the one who dresses like a normal person." Emily had a crush on Alison when she was alive, but it was ultimately the girl who moved into Alison's old house, Maya St. Germain, that pulled Emily out of the closet. Her mother was less than thrilled, but got over it. Season 3 was particularly brutal on poor Em: Maya was murdered, she had one hell of an night where she was drugged by A and forced to dig up Alison's grave(!), she had to sit through Maya's godawful vlogs, and was eventually targeted by the killer.  Aria Montgomery Worldly and "unique." The kind of person who likes to recite poetry in conversation and wear feathers in her hair. Devotes most of her time to making out with her older boyfriend, Ezra Fitz, who also happened to be an english teacher. Her english teacher. At her high school. Her storylines tend to be noticeable segregated from the rest of the show. Season 3 was also pretty rough on Aria too: A actually targeted her, her boyfriend turned out to have a secret child with his ex (this eventually led to Aria and Ezra breaking up, but do not expect this to last), and her father's crazy girlfriend drugged her to search the house for incriminating documents.  Mona Vanderwaal Former loser who, along with Hanna, transformed into the It Girl. She was revealed to be A, our core four's tormentor, at the end of season 2, and spent the first half of season 3 in the Radley mental institute, although she seemed to come and go as she pleased. During the back half of the season, she returned to school, and was treated like a freak for a whole episode before the rest of the town stopped caring. Still up to her old A tricks, she continued to poke and prod Spencer into having a mental breakdown. Mona seems to have made it onto the shitlist of her boss, the Red Coat, and as such has formed a shaky alliance with the other girls and ascended to being an honorary Pretty Little Liar. Threat Level: God only knows. Though as the fifth wheel, she's sitting a very dangerous position. Pretty Little Love Interests  Toby Cavanaugh Spencer's boyfriend. Jesus, where do we even start? Toby's the show's whipping boy: His mother's dead, his step-sister Jenna Marshall raped him, he was framed for blinding her, did a stint in juvie, he was accused of killing Alison (of course, at this point, that's not exactly an exclusive club), and has generally been treated as an outcast by the entire town of Rosewood, except for like Emily and Spencer. He was recruited by Mona onto the A-Team sometime in season 2 or 3 so he could protect Spencer (she ended up losing her poo poo, so good job there Toby!), and now in season 4 we've learned that his mother's suicide may not have been a suicide at all. Boy is this storyline gonna get awkward when Toby finds out it was Spencer who defaced his mother's mausoleum. Threat Level: Medium. He won't be outright malicious, but you can bet his hunt for the truth about his mother's death is gonna make everyone's life way, way more complicated.  Caleb Rivers Hanna's boyfriend. He's a streetwise hacker and he's going to star in Ravenswood, a spin-off coming in October. Bye Caleb! Threat Level: Like none. He's pretty much the most reliable character on the show. I guess Hanna might be sad when he leaves though.  Paige McCullers Emily's girlfriend. One of Emily's swimming teammates, Paige's coming to terms with her sexuality was a rough one, mostly because her father is like the one legit homophobic person in Rosewood. The other girls suspected her of being A in season 3 when they learned that she and Alison had a history of not getting along. Despite her temper, she seems to be the only person in town who realizes how hosed up the lives of the Pretty Little Liars are. As such, she's trying desperately to get Emily to move the gently caress away from Rosewood with her after graduation. Haha, like that's gonna happen. Threat Level: Lowish. She's allegedly one of the only people that Alison was afraid of, and with this show it's entirely possible that she wants to drag Emily into a cult out at Stanford.  Ezra Fitz Aria's primary love interest. He was her teacher, then he left to become a professor, then her parents found out and got him fired, then he was jobless, and now he's back to teaching high school. He's had quite an eventful year and half. During season 3, Aria learned that he's actually from a filthy rich family and that he got a girl pregnant in high school, and realizing the actual damage that A could do to Ezra, his ex and their child, she broke it off with him. Also has a little brother that Aria made out with on accident. Aria accidentally making out with people is sort of a running theme. Threat Level: Amber. Go back and watch season 1 and like every time he talks about how real and pure and good their relationship is it kind of makes my skin crawl. Pretty Little Shady Ladies  Jenna Marshall Toby's step-sister. Alison and the Liars blinded her (by accident. Probably), but she underwent an operation in season 2 that fixed her right up. Her blindness didn't slow her down one bit as she seemed to be dating everyone on the show at some point or another. Jenna spent the first three seasons being a perpetual red herring because (A) she was always acting creepy and (B) she totally has the right to bear a grudge against the Liars. Threat Level: High, but probably lower than the others. She seems to be genuinely afraid for her safety, but that might just push her to do horrible things.  Shana Paige's ex-girlfriend and maybe Jenna's current girlfriend. She works at Rosewood's year round costume shop (Rosewood, despite being a small town with only one restaurant, has a Halloween costume shop that's open all year). Shana's also on her high school's swim team, because I guess that's the only sport they're allowed to show girls engaging in on this show, and sometimes pals around with Olympic athletes. Threat Level: High. Unlike the other Shady Ladies, Shana has never shown even a hint of vulnerability or not being shady. On the other hand, she's the least connected to the other characters so that puts a big ol target on her back doesn't it?  Melissa Hastings Spencer's older sister. Much like Jenna, she's existed as a perpetual red herring for some time now, but that's mostly because she was married to Ian Thomas, and faking her pregnancy, and dressing up as a Black Swan, and threatening Alison before she was killed, and being needlessly abrasive to Spencer, and so forth and so on. Mona claims that Melissa was one of two people dressed as the Queen of Hearts on the Halloween Train. and that Jenna and Shana are afraid of Melissa. Threat Level: Higher than the others. She seemed to be the one calling the shots, and, well, remember how she was like "Those bitches will be at the lodge at 9" to Jenna and Shana and the lodge was set on fire at 9? Yeah. Whoever she's going after, she is not loving around. Pretty Little Trouble Makers  CeCe Drake Was seemingly Alison's role model. The other girls mistook her for Ali on their first meeting because the similarity, both in appearance and personality, was so strong. She and Ali were secret BFFs (we're asked to believe CeCe is super cool even though she was a college student hanging out with a ninth grader). She was last seen getting harassed by Detective Wilden and subsequently getting the hell outta dodge. Threat Level: She is absolutely up to no good, but it isn't clear what her goals are. Mona implied that she was the Red Coat that visited her in Radley.  Gabriel Holbrook A state police officer who came to Rosewood to figure out why the bodies keep piling up. Threat Level: Medium. He's an authority figure so his presence will complicate things for the Little Liars, but at the same time he acknowledges how gross and creepy Wilden was towards them so that's a plus.  Noel Kahn A rich, popular guy at school. His entire purpose on this show is to be a stopgap red herring between the bigger red herrings, sort of like a less important Jenna. Threat Level: Lowish. He's kind of a jerk, but that hardly means anything on this show.  Wren Kingston A british doctor. He was Melissa's boyfriend at the beginning of the series until she caught Spencer sticking her tongue down his throat. Does a lot of work at Radley, for some reason. Threat Level: Stranger Danger. See that gif? That's the face he made when he saw a teenage girl doing tequila shots by herself in a bar. Aside from the whole predator thing, he got pretty shady at the end of season 3. Pretty Little Families: The Hastings Peter (Spencer's father) does Business and is frequently away at his job doing Business. He's also the father of Jason DiLaurentis. Veronica (Spencer's mother) is a Lawyer and is frequently away at her job doing Law. She usually shows up when one or more of the Little Liars finds themselves in legal trouble. The Marins Ashley (Hanna's mother) is kind of a mess and the only character who is more of a fuckup than the Little Liars: She slept with a police officer (Darren Wilden) to get Hanna off the hook for shop lifting, she stole money from a safety deposit box at the bank, and she ran Wilden over because he was threatening her and Hanna. That last bit sort of makes her the prime suspect when Wilden actually tuns of murdered, doesn't it? Tom (Hanna's father), Isabel (Hanna's stepmother) and Kate (Hanna's stepsister) moved back to Rosewood in season 2, but they sort of disappeared into the ether. The Fields Wayne (Emily's father) is in the National Guard and is frequently away doing National Guard stuff like living in Texas and fighting wars. Pam (Emily's mother) apparently works at the Rosewood police department doing some unspecified job. She was not super thrilled to find out Emily's a lesbian, but she came around. The Montgomerys Byron (Aria's father) is a professor at Hollis. He had an affair with one of his students. She turned out to be completely batshit insane. Whoops! Ella (Aria's mother) used to work at an art gallery, but then magically became a teacher despite seemingly having no qualifications besides volunteering at the school (hilarious joke about the quality of public schools goes here). They divorced off screen between season 2 and 3. Mike (Aria's little brother) has some mental imbalances that caused him to act out in season 1 and 2, and then he fell into a wormhole and didn't appear at all in season 3. The DiLaurentises Kenneth (Ali's father) has shown up like once during the entire series. Supposedly he still lives in Rosewood, even though his wife moved away. He loathes Hanna because she told him Alison was alive a few days before they found her body. Jessica (Ali's mother) moved away after Ali's body was found, but at the beginning of season 4 moved back into their old house. Jason (Ali's older brother) was the de facto DiLaurentis representative for most of the series. He used to be a big ol stoner, but now he lectures kids about how drugs are not cool. He survived an elevator crash one time. Pretty Little Dead Bodies  Alison DiLaurentis The Dead Teen Girl that started it all! Jesus, where do we even start with this bitch? She was popular, but the bitchy type of popular you really only see on TV, but the more we learn about her the harder it is to see why anyone liked her, at all. She was weird and always sneaking around and putting things in hiding spots and using pseudonyms and talking about dying. She was being harassed by A well before the series began. Murderer: Unknown. Hell, we don't even know if she's dead.  Ian Thomas Was married to Melissa Hastings. Spent a lot of time filming people without their consent. Many of these people were girls in middle school. Was romantically involved with Alison, Melissa and Spencer all at the same time (bearing in mind that at the time Spence and Ali were like in ninth grade at the time). He was not a good guy. He was believed to be Alison's murderer by the Little Liars based on footage he had filmed from the night she died (it turns out the mort was a bit more petite than what they thought). Murderer: When Spencer confronted him, he snapped and tried to kill her. A mysterious hooded figure showed up and pushed him down the bell tower to his death. Mona claims that she was not the hooded figure, nor does she know their identity.  Maya St. Germain Dated Emily for a while, but was shipped off to Jesus Bootcamp when Pam found marijuana in her bag. Which, I was under the impression that Maya's parents were also ~free spirits~ so I don't see what the big deal was? Anyway, at Jesus Bootcamp she started dating a guy who turned into a total stalker. Murderer: Lyndon James/Cousin Nate, her stalker from Jesus Bootcamp.  Lyndon James/Cousin Nate: Showed up in Rosewood posing as Maya's cousin. Got close to Emily as part of a plan to take revenge on her for stealing Maya from him. Wanted to kill Paige in front of Emily so she'd know what it's like to lose someone.... even though he already killed Maya. Whatever dude. He was also pinned with Alison's death, even though he obviously did not do that. Murderer: Emily killed him in self-defense.  Garrett Reynolds A friendly police officer that was dating Jenna and helping her Do Things. I think they were responsible for Shovelgate?Anyway, she broke up with him and he started dating Melissa Hastings and was framed for Alison and Maya's murders. He claims to have known who dug up Alison's remains, but was killed before he got a chance to reveal the truth. Murderer: Unknown, but Mona showed the Little Liars a video that implies Wilden and Melissa were involved.  Darren Wilden An rear end in a top hat police officer assigned to Alison's murder investigation. He was constantly harassing the Little Liars and Ashley Marin, and was eventually seen getting pretty violent with CeCe Drake. He may have had a sexual relationship with Alison over one summer while he was partying with her and CeCe. Wilden was confirmed via a video to be one of the people in a Queen of Hearts costume on the Halloween Train. Mona claims that he was working with Melissa Hastings. Murderer: Unknown.  Marion Cavanaugh Toby's mother. She was institutionalized at Radley and eventually jumped to her death. A has suggested to Toby that maybe she didn't commit suicide. Murderer: I'm sure we'll find out! Pretty Little Enigmas   Red Coat Someone running around Rosewood in a red coat. Generally believed to be the head of the whole A racket. Lady in Black A mourner wearing a black veil at Wilden's funeral. Beneath the veil was a partially burnt Alison mask. Probably Red Coat. TurnipFritter fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jan 16, 2014 |
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Great OP. I've grown to dig this goofy, twisty, convoluted-as-hell show, so I'm kinda pumped that it's back for another go-round. Taking bets on how many times the Liars discover something vaguely mysterious and the camera pans out to them looking around at their surroundings.
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Jun 25, 2013 19:17
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Baba Yaga Fanboy posted:Great OP. I've grown to dig this goofy, twisty, convoluted-as-hell show, so I'm kinda pumped that it's back for another go-round. Taking bets on how many times the Liars discover something vaguely mysterious and the camera pans out to them looking around at their surroundings. You can take it further and ask how many times the vaguely mysterious thing ends up being completely irrelevant.
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Jun 25, 2013 19:26
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You should also note that Jessica has literally been in two episodes and has already become one of the creepiest people. Great OP though.
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Jun 25, 2013 22:40
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You forgot to assign a threat level to Aria. (It's really high because she's clearly the show's big bad.)
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Jun 26, 2013 16:07
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Pinterest Mom posted:You forgot to assign a threat level to Aria. I mean, her name does begin with A. She's been hiding in plain sight the entire time!
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Jun 26, 2013 18:30
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Pinterest Mom posted:You forgot to assign a threat level to Aria. Baba Yaga Fanboy posted:I mean, her name does begin with A. She's been hiding in plain sight the entire time!    Perhaps her threat level is A+  e:  Goddammit, I could have just posted this instead of writing out that OP. TurnipFritter fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Jun 26, 2013 |
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Jun 26, 2013 23:36
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Great OP, great show, I love how much the cops' suspect wall resembles the crazy ramblings and picture collage of Mona's A hideout. Edit: I totally object to your disparaging of the adorable predator Dr. Wren though. Listen to that cheeky accent! He can do no wrong. Sophia fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Jun 30, 2013 |
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Jun 30, 2013 15:12
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Sophia posted:Great OP, great show, I love how much the cops' suspect wall resembles the crazy ramblings and picture collage of Mona's A hideout. You know who else had a cheek accent? Jack the Ripper.
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Jul 1, 2013 23:58
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I sincerely hope that Melissa is serious and that they've all been helping the liars. I don't know why Spencer thinks that she was being true about her not killing Wilden though, she seemed purposefully vague. Also the new state cop was kinda creepy. Cityinthesea fucked around with this message at 05:07 on Jul 3, 2013 |
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Jul 3, 2013 05:05
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This was the most Hastings of episodes. All the women of the family were at the top of their crazed, WASPy game.
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Oh man, it's so weird that this show is actually giving answers about things, isn't it? On the downside, that's been two episodes without Mona. Come back Mona, bring us your special brand of crazy. Sophia posted:This was the most Hastings of episodes. All the women of the family were at the top of their crazed, WASPy game. Spencer: I'm not going to UPenn. Veronica: what do you mean. Spencer: I'm not going to UPenn because I didn't get in. Veronica: what do you mean. Spencer: I was rejected by UPenn. Veronica: what do you mean. Spencer: UPenn rejected me. Veronica: melissa what does she mean. It definitely feels like a return to the Season 1 Hastings Dynamic. I hope we get to see that weird dinner game they play where they go around the table and brag about their accomplishments. (Haha, remember when Spencer's biggest problem was stealing an essay?) e: The absolute best part of the episode was when Spencer and Aria were watching Melissa find the mask they planted and Spencer was narrating the whole time. TurnipFritter fucked around with this message at 21:01 on Jul 3, 2013 |
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Jul 3, 2013 20:30
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TurnipFritter posted:
I just relooked at this and the shovel being linked to the four liars is the best thing. Possession of a shovel, of course, is the worst crime you can be convicted of in Rosewood.
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Jul 5, 2013 21:17
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You can get away with literal murder, but you'll never get away with possession of a shovel.
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I forgot, is the shovel from Shovelgate the actual murder weapon, or was it just the same type of shovel that was used? Also, did they ever explain who tried to burn Jenna to death back in season 2 (I think it was season 2? She was still blind, so it had to be one of the first two)?
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Jul 7, 2013 01:42
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...Ella. You do not have to stay in the car to battle the swarm of deadly bees. Just get out. Close the door behind you. Was the lady in the photograph at the end supposed to be Mama DiLaurentis? I couldn't really tell.
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Jul 11, 2013 00:36
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So I really want to get back into this show but at this point it seems like the only interesting mystery is what season is it in Rosewood?
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Jul 15, 2013 23:26
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I cant rhyme posted:So I really want to get back into this show but at this point it seems like the only interesting mystery is what season is it in Rosewood? The central plot dating back to the pilot ("who killed Alison?", and now "is she even dead?") is still unanswered. And now there's a non-Mona A floating around. I mean, I guess if you're only in it for awesome mysteries, then yeah you probably wouldn't like it still? It's the same show it's always been.
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Jul 16, 2013 00:21
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TurnipFritter posted:...Ella. You do not have to stay in the car to battle the swarm of deadly bees. Just get out. Close the door behind you. I love Ella but it's hard for me to take her seriously when I wonder why she doesn't just freeze them, blow them up and then get out of the car.
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Jul 17, 2013 00:51
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Sophia posted:I love Ella but it's hard for me to take her seriously when I wonder why she doesn't just freeze them, blow them up and then get out of the car. I have the same problem, and if papa aria had retained the same actor as initially cast, I'd be wondering why Wes wasn't calling in favors from Angel. Chad Lowe is pretty good, but man I wish it'd been Alexis Denisoff. Also all caught up, what the gently caress is with this show.
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Jul 17, 2013 01:01
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I know this show is like 60% horror movie already, but holy cow at their foray into Ravenswood.
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Jul 18, 2013 01:52
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Mona you are a true hero, I appreciate your purposeful strut through the police station to synth music, and I wish you all the success in becoming the Godfather of every Prison Gang. Still actually pretty surprised that Aria and The Fitz haven't gotten back together, and still super creeped out when he bonds with the other girls one-on-one. Apparently Jenna's coming back next week, so I guess we're swinging back to the lodge fire after focusing on Wilden's murder?
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Jul 31, 2013 21:55
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I really just want someone else to figure out the A stuff beyond the boyfriends/Paige. Hell, I thought they were going to have Emily tell Ezra. I mean it's not like he'd able to solve all their problems (A would still have poo poo on him). Although I'm kinda fine with him bonding with the girls because it at least involves some sort of school thing.
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Jul 31, 2013 22:02
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Yeah, I figured Emily might at least hint to Ezra that his theory was right, if only because of my vain hope that Ezra will at some point become a meaningful and interesting contributor to the plot. Then again, pretty much every time they've told someone that person has been targeted and it's not like he would have been able to do anything about it, so it makes sense that she didn't speak up. Alo that Insidious 2 product integration was some of the worst I've ever seen.
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I'm really hoping that it was Ezra who bashed the car in, just to show everyone how much of an immature child he is. He's really one of the most immature characters on the show, masquerading as an adult and teacher but really just a manchild. He's so creepy.
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A couple of people have broached the "Is A back?" subject. I think Pam did way back when Emily hurt her shoulder? It does seem like anytime something terrible happened to/around the Liars their families or the police would immediately recognize it's an A thing, but then the characters seem to determined to define MonA's hijinks as "bullying" and that feels like a huge understatement. Stabitha posted:I'm really hoping that it was Ezra who bashed the car in, just to show everyone how much of an immature child he is. He's really one of the most immature characters on the show, masquerading as an adult and teacher but really just a manchild. He's so creepy. I'm waiting for Noel Kahn to show up so he can be accused of it before they reveal who really did it.
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Aug 1, 2013 09:08
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That is a great song and a perfect fit for Mona/that scene. Kudos to the sound director. And this was last week, but:  These two goons. I couldn't stop laughing. Caleb and Toby Solve Crimes is the best thing.
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Aug 2, 2013 16:52
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Autonomous Monster posted:That is a great song and a perfect fit for Mona/that scene. Kudos to the sound director. They are shockingly good at finding appropriate music to use for Mona walking places.
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Aug 2, 2013 20:40
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Oh man this episode was pretty brutal  . The Emily/Paige stuff was a bit of a bummer but those last 10 minutes... Jenna almost killed, Toby next? Cece Drake being red coat? The fact that red coat and A aren't even the same person?.I still don't understand who bailed Ashley out though.
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Aug 8, 2013 04:18
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Cityinthesea posted:
I think it was pretty clear that Pastor Ted did. He straight up says "Don't run, I've got a lot riding on you," meaning he put up her $1 million bail and if she runs, the court is going to collect that money.
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Aug 8, 2013 04:55
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Yeah but Mona called Hanna and said "you're welcome", right after she told Mona about how she got out and how some anonymous donor paid for it (though now that I think about it, I guess that could've just meant actually letting her off on bail in the first place).
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Cityinthesea posted:Yeah but Mona called Hanna and said "you're welcome", right after she told Mona about how she got out and how some anonymous donor paid for it (though now that I think about it, I guess that could've just meant actually letting her off on bail in the first place). I think she actually asked if Ashley was out on bail, and upon learning she was Mona just said "That's good, I'm glad." Made it seem more like her goal in confessing was strictly freeing Ashley, though that is undercut by the vaguely-sinister overtones of her return to Hadley. The impression I got overall was that Mona wanted Ashley out and on the street for some other purpose (perhaps taunting A and trying to draw her out?) and the heavy emphasis on the ankle monitor makes me think it will end up being very important. VVV Edit: Maybe she voluntarily recommitted herself just to prove that she can sneak out whenever she wants and strengthen her confession. They definitely didn't put her in there against her will. ShakeZula fucked around with this message at 06:13 on Aug 8, 2013 |
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I don't understand why Mona is back in Radley after she just told the detective that she constantly snuck out. I'm willing to overlook it if it means Mona lives at Radley but is constantly sneaking out to do normal things like buy coffee or hang out with Hanna or whatever. Still utterly baffled by the Liars' treatment of Jenna, but I think they're still at a place where they think she and Shana killed Wilden? The saddest thing is that Ashley can't drink. She's out of jail, but at what cost? 
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Aug 8, 2013 05:58
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My wife watches this show so I only see it while she has it on. Am I missing some reason why these girls can't just call the cops? I asked her and she said there is no reason.
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Aug 14, 2013 02:55
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They started a fire that made a girl blind, and they appear to have missed the window of opportunity where that girl was no longer blind. I think? Anyway, I didn't think Ezra could get worse than he was in the first few seasons, but now there's absolutely no reason for him to be on the show and it's insane that he's getting his own b-plot. "The saga of four girls whose friend was mysteriously killed...and also one of their teachers who is Raging Against A Misandrist System"
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Aug 14, 2013 03:00
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xbilkis posted:They started a fire that made a girl blind, and they appear to have missed the window of opportunity where that girl was no longer blind. I think? He is by far the worst part of the show right now. At first I thought they were keeping him around because he was secretly one of the bad guys or had some big piece of the puzzle or something. But no, he's just terrible and completely pointless. At this point the only way to save him as a character would for him to go completely batshit and/or evil. And he would probably still suck that up somehow.
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DrPlump posted:My wife watches this show so I only see it while she has it on. Am I missing some reason why these girls can't just call the cops? I asked her and she said there is no reason. They have an omnipotent force controlling their lives which is constantly framing them and their families for murder and possession of shovel. They think A will ruin their lives if they go to the authorities.
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DrPlump posted:My wife watches this show so I only see it while she has it on. Am I missing some reason why these girls can't just call the cops? I asked her and she said there is no reason. It's a constant loop of their e-stalker filming them (or one of their parents) doing something that looks Real Bad such that going to the cops with other stuff is just going to end up in things getting worse. Plus a couple of the cops in previous seasons were actually directly or indirectly involved in loving up these girls' lives, so there's probably a level of "can't trust nobody but ESPECIALLY not the police" at play. This, however, does not stop them from making the worst possible non-police decisions imaginable at, like, all times.
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Aug 14, 2013 05:33
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I read that the the author of the books this show is based on is putting out more. When is this show going to end then?
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Aug 14, 2013 07:25
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Coconut Indian posted:I read that the the author of the books this show is based on is putting out more. When is this show going to end then? I've never read the books but it'd seem weird if the A storyline followed the girls into college, because it seems like you'd have to trap all the major players into local schools (which Spencer loving Hastings would not settle for Hollis) in order to keep things reasonably coherent. "Someone is stalking me and filming my every move and blackmailing me!" starts to fall apart the more decentralized the main action gets. Like, we joke about how omnipotent A is but A only really has to work within Rosewood and its immediate surroundings, with rare jaunts out to other places.
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Aug 14, 2013 07:56
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