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What hot hatch do you own? This poll is closed. |
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| Golf GTI / R / R32 |
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196 | 0.02% |
| Impreza WRX / STi |
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133 | 0.01% |
| Mazdaspeed 3 |
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92 | 0.01% |
| Veloster Turbo |
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20 | 0.00% |
| Focus ST |
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149 | 0.01% |
| Other Hot Hatch |
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230 | 0.02% |
| Elantra GT |
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1000001 | 99.92% |
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Hatch Goons I’m trying my damnedest to get myself a Golf GTI, but I’m having a time doing so. I’ve got my eye on a 2016 GTI SE that’s a reasonable price, but the fellow that owned it threw down over 46k miles on the sucker in the year and a half he owned it. Service history shows it was dealer serviced at all the recommended intervals, but I don’t know if that’s worth anything in and of itself. It’s at a non VW dealership, so getting it certified isn’t an option. Can someone throw me a hot take or two before I make a mistake?
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Feb 21, 2018 19:12
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18k and automatic. Not sure what the other things are, but I’ll check KBB on it in a minute. I did the math and homeboy had it only a year and a half, which averages to a hair over 87 miles driven every single day he had it. I’m a complete idiot about cars, but sounds WAY too high.
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Feb 21, 2018 19:43
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That’s fair and completely possible for this area. What carries more weight here? The quantity of the miles or the “quality” of them?
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Feb 21, 2018 20:26
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So upon arriving at the dealership and finding out the fellow I was supposed to meet wasn't even working (despite being told otherwise), I was interested to find out that the GTI didn't have any of the features listed online. No leather seats, no sunroof, no keyless entry. It was pretty close to stock. In fact, it was a S and a utter and complete waste of my time. I took off work and quadrupled my commute to look at this damned thing. I'm not even angry, just exhausted. (So naturally the VW place we talked to the other day called and said we get a '16 GTI S with 9.9K miles + certification for the same price while I was fuming on the way home.) I'm tired.
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Feb 22, 2018 00:50
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I could take or leave either, but keyless entry would be nice to have.
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Feb 22, 2018 02:39
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a mysterious cloak posted:My previous car had leather seats and I will never go back. There is a new SEL golf we could get, but that’s not going to be as fun. I’ve always heard leather described as “great until it’s a massive pain in the rear end”. Plus it’s hot as hell down here in the summer, so...
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Feb 22, 2018 20:37
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My thinking is that it would be easier to replace the seats once they’re worn if I have cloth vs leather. Granted it’s the dumb plaid stuff, so that’s likely out the window.
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Feb 22, 2018 23:30
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Upon further discussion with other parties (wife) I think we’re going to pass on this S and hold out for a SE/SEL. We may just get a 18 if she finds a job before one pops up.
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Feb 23, 2018 02:38
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I want to say that’s been a thing since 2017, but I’m not positive. But yeah, they just rolled it in. Only costs $10k more than the S we’re passing up. Sigh.
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Feb 23, 2018 02:52
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I’ll go check it out, thanks!
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Feb 23, 2018 03:13
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So we popped into another VW dealership and damned if they didn't have a '17 GTI Sport with 4K miles for a reasonable price. I'm a tad bummed that it's automatic (despite not knowing how to drive stick) but I strongly suspect that an automatic would be better given the traffic I usually encounter around here. We may pull the trigger later this week.
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Feb 26, 2018 02:22
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I was just going to brace real hard against the fake clutch pedal dohickey on the left and hope the tension produced gainz or something.
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Feb 26, 2018 05:13
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I figure I’ll wait for a proper dumb car to go manual on. Our old roommate had a 95 Miata that was a blast, so likely something like that. What’s the hot hatch version of the Miata fan base anyway?
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Feb 26, 2018 06:01
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I’m fairly sure I purchased my home with less personal info than I’ve just given this guy to get this car.
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Feb 27, 2018 23:25
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Ok, I’m one of you now. How do I get my complementary Hatch Mafia sticker?
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Feb 28, 2018 01:23
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sneakyfrog posted:what did you buyy 17 GTI Sport. Previous owner only put 4K miles on it and added some stuff.
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Feb 28, 2018 02:22
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kaujot posted:I am a complete babby at buying cars, but I thought this whole process was supposed to be fun. I am losing sleep over which car to buy. Not to mention that it feels like every color I want either costs more or is hard to find. When does this become fun? It doesn’t until you’ve bought one and forgot about how much money you’ve spent. Can someone explain when I’d want to use the DSG shifters when driving? I’ve only ever done automatics, so I’ve got utterly no idea what the point is. Higher gear for when I want to pass someone NOW?
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Feb 28, 2018 17:38
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As I understand it, Lower gear == better acceleration something something power band something something gear ratios. Correct? Sport mode is just for a “friskier” drive and is just a for fun thing, no?
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Feb 28, 2018 18:44
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So something weird happened. When pulling out of where we ate dinner, I put the GTI into Sport mode and flicked the shifter over to the right for "more" sport (I don't know how this stuff works yet). I let the car coast down to about 10mph and accelerated. Incidentally there was a loud knocking noise and a pretty substantial kind of "bucking" coming from what felt like the back right of the car. Given we've had this thing for all of 48 hours, I'm not thrilled. If felt similar to me loving up changing gears in my roommate's old Miata, so my best guess (and hope) is that I did something stupid that caused it to happen. Car seems and drives just fine otherwise. Anyone have an idea what happened there?
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Mar 1, 2018 02:44
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That's a relief. My brain is broke but the car is fine. I think I'll just stay the gently caress out of sport mode for a while. Edit - What would have been the proper way to go about that? Drop to first then hit the gas? Only do that sort of thing from a standstill? Warbird fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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Mar 1, 2018 02:57
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To clarify, I wasn't shifting. It's entirely possible that I hit one of the shifter pedals without meaning to. There wasn't enough time to listen to anything before things went weird; I'm going to chalk this up to operator error. Midget I have utterly no idea what you said.
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Mar 1, 2018 03:23
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Huge_Midget posted:Engines that are turbocharged and have direct injection can suffer from a type of knock called low speed pre-ignition. It results from the small turbos on these cars forcing in a lot of boost while at low RPM which puts a lot of stress on the connecting rods and pistons. Sometimes some leftover oil or combustion products from the previous stroke in the cylinder can combine with this extra boost and cause a type of cylinder knock that can destroy your engine. Therefore it is recommended that when you are driving high strung engines like these that you keep your RPMs up when getting your foot into it and making sure you are in the right gear. For instance you don’t want to be in 3rd or 4th at like 1200 RPM and then put your foot down without going up a gear or two to lessen the chance of LSPI. That makes much more sense, thank you for elaborating!
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Mar 1, 2018 04:50
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I was reading the owner's manual again over lunch, but I'll watch those instead. Thanks!
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Mar 1, 2018 17:46
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Those videos were very informative and I think I'm more confused than when I started. I kind of miss the "a bunch of magic happens" steps that I could safely ignore when driving automatic. Ignorance is bliss. Methinks the self preservation elements of the DSG computer weren't ready for my dumb rear end. (I apparently live fairly close to the beard guy.) Take aways: Don't push the shifter to the right.
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Mar 1, 2018 18:09
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How much of a pain is it to unplug? I was planning on stopping the cords on mine per the advice of RCR, but a less destructive option would be nice.
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Mar 1, 2018 20:48
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So it wasn't my dumb shifting. Putting the GTI into sport and accelerating out of a stoplight caused the knocking again. This wasn’t foot to floor either, normal acceleration. It for sure seems to be having trouble grabbing second gear or at least I think it does. I’m for sure not hitting the shifters. Normal mode works fine. Thoughts?
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Mar 2, 2018 02:59
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Stutter/stop, rear, 4500 miles, and I honestly don’t know.
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Mar 2, 2018 03:14
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No crashes and yes
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Mar 2, 2018 03:25
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Everyone I know drives automatic, but I'll try and strike up a conversation with one of the GTI owners in the neighborhood if the opportunity presents itself. I'm used to a level of driving that consists largely of "Put in D and press gas until you arrive at your destination" level of thought, so I'm still fairly sure I'm the root cause here. I don't know if the parking brake would be rusting, but I did double check that the traction control was engaged. It has been wet, so that may be what's up. I took it out on a longer drive on the backroads to try and reproduce the issue. We had one incident of "slippage" which was in a higher gear than the others (right at the start), but it behaved itself pretty well. I'm getting annoyed I can't reproduce it. Common throughlines for these are: jackass driver (me), wet/damp roads, sport mode, fairly recent (~2 minutes) car starting, recent switch to sport mode (~10 seconds before acceleration), and semi stops (right on a red light, pulling onto highway). I remember someone mentioning it takes a moment for everything to warm up, so that could potentially be it. I also wonder if the mechawhatchamahoozit computer thing got thrown off by by slowing down prior to trying to accelerate.
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Mar 2, 2018 05:49
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NC and that’s it minus the tires squealing.
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Mar 2, 2018 13:24
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Whoulda thunk going from a 150HP automatic to 220HP weird auto clutch thingy would make for driving differently.  Good to know it's not the car. I most certainly backed right the gently caress off of the accelerator when that happened, so hopefully nothing was harmed.Another idiot question: Is the "sport" mode that you get from pressing the shifter down once past drive the same as the "sport" mode you get from fooling with the driving style button over to the left of the shifter? The manual is a bit ambiguous about this. It seems one tweaks the logic on shifting and the other messes with the handling as well as the shifting. Also, wasn't installing the dogbone ruled to be a bad idea as I'm an idiot? Warbird fucked around with this message at 17:37 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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Mar 2, 2018 17:16
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Given the custom pedal shifters, it's entirely possible. How would I verify it? It's CPO, so I'd like to think the dealership would have checked for modification at some point.
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Mar 2, 2018 17:52
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Got my roadside assistance kit from eBay today. I read that the first aid one fits well in the drawer under the driver’s seat in the GTI. Can someone confirm?
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Mar 6, 2018 00:25
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Larrymer posted:I had that OEM kit included with my car. I threw it under the spare where it fits fine and still allows it to sit flush. It hasn't arrived yet. The previous owner sold/kept both so I'm eBaying them. Fun fact: the velcro strip on the roadside bag is placed in such a way that you can use the side walls of the "trunk" area to stick it on to save floor space. I don't know if that's a deliberate design choice, but it's neat. I love the little touches in this car.
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Mar 6, 2018 03:14
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Subject change. Is there an All Trails or Strava equivalent for fun to drive roads? Also, any recommended resources to get ideas for modifications from?
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Mar 6, 2018 20:11
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I meant in a more cosmetic sense. I’m stupid, not crazy.
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Mar 6, 2018 20:33
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I meant to ask, is there any weirdness with FWD vehicles I should know about? I’ve only ever had RWD before now.
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Mar 8, 2018 20:18
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Wasn’t aware of the “may try to kill you” factor. That’ll be an interesting change after the couch like experience that was the Jeep.
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Mar 8, 2018 21:28
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God I'm glad I don't have to deal with snow. It sounds like a major pain in the rear end.
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Mar 9, 2018 20:30
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I can understand the appeal, but that would squarely fall into stark terror for me. Might be fun to try and learn to drift though. Another GTI flashed his lights at me as he passed. Is this what it’s like to have a Miata?
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Mar 9, 2018 23:06
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