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Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


The one thing that makes the change hard to assess is the fact that we've all now seen both alternatives (Sweet Mask killing the Mercs and Sweet Mask not killing them) so we have the advantage of knowing the bigger picture here. In the future only one version will exist, and I don't know if the new one is better than what we had.

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Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Terror Sweat posted:

His workout is like 2 hours a day max, it's a hobby

Does he still have to workout like this to maintain his god-like invincibility, or is it like flicking a switch and now he's locked into this state permanently?

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


I kind of love the idea that Saitama just by chance happened upon the exact "cheat code" of life for becoming invincible. And that his genuine earnestness for being good, but overall apathy, let him not transform into a monster like most other people would.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Rigged Death Trap posted:

aww I wanted Suiko to get a better showing than that.
Especially after she shotgunned a fuckin four loko she should have won what the fuuuuck


I feel the same way, but for Tank Top Master. Especially after putting on a tighter tank top for enhanced performance. Is he doomed to never get a decisive victory against a major threat?

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


I think it's a bit short sighted to treat the Garou arc as a standalone thing that the webcomic quickly and efficiently completed and moved on from. By the end, Garou is still alive, Psychos is still alive, the nebulous threat of "God" has just barely been touched on, and there is a backdrop storyline of ever increasing monster attacks.

I love both the webcomic and the manga and am grateful both exist. At a certain point when these threads become endless complaints it sort of forces the question: if you don't like the manga, why not just stop reading?

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Terror Sweat posted:

-expand the garou/darkshine fight

This one is interesting for me. I've been OK with all the HA vs MA fights (even Child Emperor vs Phoenix man would have been totally fine if it wasn't re-drawn twice - I think it was super helpful for showing off CE's actual abilities). And even though I didn't love it in the anime (which is how I was introduced to the franchise) on re-reading I actually now really like the tournament arc.

The only two things that I've felt are redundant/unnecessary is 1) the second chapter of the Garou/Darkshine fight (I felt all the plot points of Darkshine feeling scared of Garou's power were covered fine in the first chapter, and sort of just repeated in the second), and 2) maybe some of the current Tatsumaki vs Psykos fight since it's now been a couple cycles of: Psykos shows great power, Tatsumaki seems outmatched at first but then turns the tables and does something heroic.

Otherwise, every time a new chapter comes out I am excited, and very rarely disappointed.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Bacontotem posted:

It''ll turn out Blast isn't the most mass destructive Hero, he's the only one who is well trained in de escalating situations.

#defundtheheroassociation

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


gimme the GOD drat candy posted:

drat, i'd really missed this comic. it makes sense that hammerhead would show up now, since the neo heroes are very obviously picking up the long-forgotten plot hook from the end of that story.

We know the anime didn’t expect to see Hammerhead again, since he was shown to be at a job interview during the Boros arc.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Glad to see discussion in this thread restart, because with the last Murata manga chapter I have more thoughts for this thread.

For those following the manga, I'm very curious to know what others think of Garou revealing his motivation so early? Do you think it was a good choice? Does this mean the there is still an ultimate reveal that will be just as satisfying as the web comic version?

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Shugojin posted:

King locking down Evil Natural Water by simply not making a single attack is one of my favorite moments in the series

Haha yes! ENW not doing anything to King because he has no murderous intent due to being a terrified coward is an amazing twist. All of the King stuff is actually a part of the manga that I am looking forward to most.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


As pathetic as it may sound, one of the things keeping me going in this pandemic is the excitement from the idea of seeing a Murata-drawn depiction of Silverfang killing Fuerer ugly, Gums, and thousand Black Sperms...

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Lamebot posted:

I feel like the redraw is going to conclude after the garou arc and this reaffirms that for me.

I would consider this extremely unlikely, unless Murata, specifically, has indicated he's done with OPM (which in itself seems unlikely with how much effort he has spent re-doing already released chapters).

In order to conclude the manga in the Garou arc you would either have to cram in, or leave unresolved, the following plot threads that have been opened:
- Genos and the renegade cyborg
- Blast and his whole deal
- Sonic and his whole deal
- Fubuki's character arc with her sister
- Suiryu becoming a hero
- King and Saitama's friendship
- The dark side of the Hero Association
- The Organization and Drive Knight's whole deal
- Is Metal Knight evil, or planning something
- Maybe something to do with costumed heroes/monsters (Pheonix man, Child Emperor, Watchdog Man)

What shame if they ended it so soon...

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Snake Maze posted:

I don’t see how the redraw can elegantly give us a “King singlehandedly holds off the monster association” scene at this point, so it’s still strictly inferior unless they manage to pull it off.

There is something about ONE's storytelling in the webcomic that really makes the scenes feel vivid and grounded to the point where you, the reader, sort of imagine what it would be like to live through the events as one of the civilian bystanders. Two moments in the MA arc are really notable that way for me:

1) Child Emperor dictating a journal of the accounts of the MA raid, up to the point where the base is lifted and he's now buried in rubble. You really feel the stakes as he talks about not knowing which heroes are alive or dead, and how if the heroes lose, there would never again be peace on Earth.

2) The sequence where Tatsumaki is facing all the cadres on her own, and Fubuki is underground talking about how it wouldn't even be safe to go to the surface with the energy being put out. Thinking about Tats' powers brings to mind the wave of destruction in those old atomic bomb test videos.

I don't know if any of this will be captured as well in the manga, but that's ok. I'm totally fine with the manga being it's own separate (and awesome in a different way) thing.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


oh jay posted:

Remind me, are the Neo Heroes and their suits related to the Organization? Because as far as I can tell that's the last hanging plot thread from the first part of the series that hasn't been addressed (assuming Drive Knight isn't lying out of his rear end).

If I had to throw out wild speculations, I would guess that the Neo Heroes are a bit of a distraction to the main villain, which is the Organization. And this story arc could be leading up to some major hero Association / Organization / Metal Knight show down

Bucswabe fucked around with this message at 19:02 on Mar 6, 2021

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


I R SMART LIKE ROCK posted:

there are several moving pieces here. I'm not sure if we have dual plots of neo heroes & bofoi or if this is all the same one

If I had to list the major story arcs that need to be finished before the end of the series I would say they are:
- What is the organization, and what are their goals
- What is up with Metal Knight
- What's going on with all those psychics
- What's going on with the Mad Cyborg that Genos is going after
- What is Blast's deal
- What is "God" and how will that be resolved

The Neo Heroes arc seam like it could cover several of these items. Of the S-Class heroes, I think Watchdog Man is maybe the only one that still needs to be explored.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Josuke Higashikata posted:

He's a dog.

That's his power.

Excuse me, he is a dog-MAN.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Electric Phantasm posted:

Didn't want to bother the manga thread with this question, were the heroes this brutalized in the webcomic? I can't remember and I don't know where to check since Mangadex is still down.

For reference:
https://cubari.moe/read/imgur/73ssrKi/1/1/

The brutalization in the manga is definitely more extreme than the webcomic, and not just because of Murata’s art. What just happened to sweet mask is much worse than in the comic. And Tatsumaki is getting far more traumatized. Zombie Man... pretty much the same.

Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


Brought To You By posted:

Used to be a rule that the only characters that got really mangled were cyborgs or Zombieman. Not so much this go around.

...or Garou!

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Bucswabe
May 2, 2009


MorningMoon posted:

I was trying to read ""this part"" on the webcomic last night and lol it is entirely different. Fubuki fights most of the psychic and then there's a beating before Garou is up.

Where we are at right now it doesn't seem to be too radically different from the webcomic at the point where Tatsumaki was taking on the cadres by herself, right before Genos and Bang show up. I think most of the "chess pieces" are more or less in the same place.

Depends on the actual status of Sweet Mask, TTM, Metal Bat, and Darkshine, and whether any of them will play a different role.

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