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myron cope posted:A question: isn't this a federal prison? Why are some of the inmates there? Like Janae, wasn't she arrested for robbing a convenience store? Or is it not actually a federal prison? It is a federal prison, but don't expect much consistency from anything on tv regarding things like this. The vast majority of people don't even know there's a difference between jail and prison, let alone federal and state. It's also why so many people have problems comparing this show to Oz. "Down the hill" in this show's terminology would be the more secure wing of the prison, where they also have the SHU apparently. From what we're shown, where Piper is is a minimum security wing of a complex that has a larger campus. I dunno if it's based on a real place, could be. But even so, those details aren't super important to the show. IRQ fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jul 21, 2013 |
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ShakeZula posted:Red's story confused me as well, since her first flashback episode ended with the leaders of the mob pissed at her and storing a body in the freezer, and the second obviously took place after the first (the mobsters knew who she was and she was more comfortable around them), so I suspect the body came and went and she was arrested for something we haven't yet seen. That second flashback seemed to imply that she was actively helping the Mob out with planning and poo poo. I assume she's quite heavily involved with them.
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Okay, so when Piper started gathering materials for Red's back cream, who else thought "Oh poo poo, we're about to see a Walter White moment!"
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Vivek posted:Okay, so when Piper started gathering materials for Red's back cream, who else thought "Oh poo poo, we're about to see a Walter White moment!" I just thought she wanted any food she could get. Because you can't get real jalapenos in the US anymore anyway; gently caress you, Texas A&M. gently caress you forever.
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Jul 21, 2013 02:49
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I'm gonna be the first/only one to admit that in a show where we get loads of Showtime-esque nudity, I was disappointed we didn't get Laura Prepon boobs.
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^^^ I don't think anyone is not disappointed by thatmyron cope posted:A question: isn't this a federal prison? Why are some of the inmates there? Like Janae, wasn't she arrested for robbing a convenience store? Or is it not actually a federal prison? Janae is the only one I can think of so far who doesn't fit. Maybe Taystee too but I can't remember if we got a backstory on her. Most of the others we've seen so far are reasonable. Piper, Alex, Daya, Daya's mom -- drug trafficking Red -- Probably RICO Sophia -- Credit card fraud, usually federal (I think) Claudette -- murder, but maybe with some human trafficking elements that would make it federal Pennsatucky -- domestic terrorism, I guess
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IRQ posted:It is a federal prison, but don't expect much consistency from anything on tv regarding things like this. The vast majority of people don't even know there's a difference between jail and prison, let alone federal and state. It's also why so many people have problems comparing this show to Oz. "Down the hill" in this show's terminology would be the more secure wing of the prison, where they also have the SHU apparently. From what we're shown, where Piper is is a minimum security wing of a complex that has a larger campus. I dunno if it's based on a real place, could be. The real life Piper served her sentence in a Prison in Danbury, CT. I'm guessing the one on the show is fictional.
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IRQ posted:I just thought she wanted any food she could get. Because you can't get real jalapenos in the US anymore anyway; gently caress you, Texas A&M. gently caress you forever. I had a feeling she was gonna make some artisan-rear end poo poo. I didn't know she was gonna baby bird it into a bottle to rub on Red's back. So.
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I just finished it and really enjoyed it. The end of the season was a pretty epic setup for season 2. There was one thing I must have missed. Why was the one large woman given a helper dog? And why would a helper dog be an untrained puppy?
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myron cope posted:A question: isn't this a federal prison? Why are some of the inmates there? Like Janae, wasn't she arrested for robbing a convenience store? Or is it not actually a federal prison? They managed to get all of that right with the information we are given; armed robbery of a store has been increasingly charged as a federal crime under the Hobbs Act, for example (something which is somewhat contentious in the criminal procedure community).
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The pHo posted:I'm gonna be the first/only one to admit that in a show where we get loads of Showtime-esque nudity, I was disappointed we didn't get Laura Prepon boobs. We got them (albeit briefly) in like the first minute of the series.
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The pHo posted:I'm gonna be the first/only one to admit that in a show where we get loads of Showtime-esque nudity, I was disappointed we didn't get Laura Prepon boobs. 1. She was naked in the first scene in the pilot. 2. Everybody go read the rules thread about Netflix shows; this thread is a no-spoiler-tags-needed zone.
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NESguerilla posted:There was one thing I must have missed. Why was the one large woman given a helper dog? And why would a helper dog be an untrained puppy? She's training the dog, so it's not actually a helper dog yet.
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Cordyceps posted:Piper, Alex, Daya, Daya's mom -- drug trafficking I figured that the fact that Claudette is in a minimum security facility means she got away with killing that guy.
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Aatrek posted:1. She was naked in the first scene in the pilot. Yeah that took me by surprise because I didn't know she was in it. I was like is that Laura Prepon? Is that Laura Prepon's boobs?????? And then it was gone...
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hcreight posted:I figured that the fact that Claudette is in a minimum security facility means she got away with killing that guy. On the other hand, did the yoga instructor get wrongly charged with murder? Why would someone be spending decades in a minimum security prison over manslaughter?
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NESguerilla posted:On the other hand, did the yoga instructor get wrongly charged with murder? Why would someone be spending decades in a minimum security prison over manslaughter? She was also operating a pot farm and dealing.
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Yeah the pot farm would take it federal, no question.hcreight posted:I figured that the fact that Claudette is in a minimum security facility means she got away with killing that guy.
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Can't you get moved to a lower security prison after a while?
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Aatrek posted:1. She was naked in the first scene in the pilot. Was that her though, in the prison showers? I thought so at first and tried to confirm it, but looking at the promo photo where Prepon has a huge colorful arm tattoo makes me think it was someone else. Because they were ridiculous. Enderzero fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Starks posted:Can't you get moved to a lower security prison after a while? Yes, especially if you are old or there were mitigating circumstances. I assume being a woman helps too.
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zoux posted:The starvation storyline was a real dropped ball. When Red gets in her face and yells "You aren't being hazed, you aren't being harrassed, you are being starved to death," I thought they were trying to say, "Hey your genteel rich girl ways aren't going to get you out of this one." But then she arts and crafts her way out of it and everyone was just so impressed at how hard she worked. If she was licking rocks for lichen and eating bugs, yeah that's suffering. Having your mouth burned a bit from eating jalapenos is not. I didn't really read it this way; by the time Red made that speech, they had already had their private talk, where Red essentially said "I like you, but I can't show weakness, figure something out". Everything after that talk was somewhat for show. Red just needed a public excuse to start letting Piper eat again, even if it was a lame one like making some lovely lotion.
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Up to episode 3 so far. The trans woman episode is really great, but I can definitely see why people don't like Piper. As far as "seeing Kate Mulgrew outside of Voyager", ya'll really need to watch NTSF: SD: SUV::.
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This threads needs to give some more love to Pablo Schreiber, because hes one of the most horrible and yet hilarious parts of this show.
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Gorn Myson posted:This threads needs to give some more love to Pablo Schreiber, because hes one of the most horrible and yet hilarious parts of this show. I talked about that earlier. It's a weird character because he's both comic relief and terrible inmate-raping antagonist. So it's like "haha funny joke but I remember you making that inmate blow you in a closet as well so I don't know if I should laugh." I have been going around my house yelling "COLLEGE KIDS AIN'T poo poo" since watching it, perplexing my roommates.
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I just love his swagger and his posture. Hes played as someone who is clearly putting on a theatrical front as if the persona he is projecting will make people respect and fear him, but everyone that meets him will think hes a creepy dickhead and when hes not around they'll just make fun of him. And the tache is just loving perfect.
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Azure_Horizon posted:Up to episode 3 so far. The trans woman episode is really great, but I can definitely see why people don't like Piper. Kate Mulgrew runs a better kitchen than a starship. Starks posted:Can't you get moved to a lower security prison after a while? The prison type matches the crime, things such as murder or gang membership lead to tougher prisons, while something such as the Martha Stewart white collar crime naturally get sent to a lower security prison. Also the escape risk is another big factor used to determine what security level is needed for the prisoner. etalian fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Plenty of coffee to be had in prison!
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Binge watched it a few days ago. I actually liked it despite losing interest in Weeds after like season 3 or so. Sometimes the sex scenes feel out of place and are only there for titties. I like how I go from liking to hating to feeling sorry for liking again all the characters over the episodes.
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Also somewhat amusing how it's a small scale American pie cast reunion.
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etalian posted:Also somewhat amusing how it's a small scale American pie cast reunion. ...with two characters who really had no connection in the film and haven't shared a single scene in OITNB.
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I think it was like the first episode where Piper mentions to Jason Biggs that she knows everything about him and he replies that he should have never told her about the webcam incident.
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Super Aggro Crag posted:I think it was like the first episode where Piper mentions to Jason Biggs that she knows everything about him and he replies that he should have never told her about the webcam incident. In many ways looks like Jason Biggs reprised his American Pie role all the way down to being the whack-off king and also being back in the blue balls torture angst situation.
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Haven't seen too many episodes just yet, but I still think the best part about the show so far was Laura Prepon boobs.
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Supercar Gautier posted:I didn't really read it this way; by the time Red made that speech, they had already had their private talk, where Red essentially said "I like you, but I can't show weakness, figure something out". Everything after that talk was somewhat for show. Red just needed a public excuse to start letting Piper eat again, even if it was a lame one like making some lovely lotion. Red is definitely a big softie who gives a lot of tough love. You see this later in the series, even - when she discovers that Tricia was still on drugs, she kicks her out of the "family." After Tricia's suicide, you hear her say that she never meant that she was out forever, she just needed to learn her lesson. That scene, and the scene where she tries to sabotage the kitchen and ends up getting someone badly burned, has me wondering how her character is going to change next season. Maybe we'll start to see her losing confidence in herself and backing down from confrontation more often.
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Cythrelo posted:That scene, and the scene where she tries to sabotage the kitchen and ends up getting someone badly burned, has me wondering how her character is going to change next season. Maybe we'll start to see her losing confidence in herself and backing down from confrontation more often. Well, she's lost a lot of power over the season. One of her "daughters" hung herself after she excommunicated her, one of them got burnt the gently caress up BY her, the other silent one essentially told her to gently caress herself after that burning. On top of all that her source of power, controlling the kitchen and the contraband that comes through, is compromised. Her truest friend at this point is probably Nichols, who betrayed her in a fit of anger over the way she treated herself and Tricia. If the second season involves Red trying to reclaim her power, it will probably have to start with her and Nichols. It's clear that despite her claims, that Red is not the only one who can competently run the kitchen. But Neptune probably won't be willing to smuggle in contraband for Gloria and her crew. So at some point If Red can't reclaim the kitchen, she'll have to cut Gloria in on the smuggling so it can continue.
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FINALLY there's a thread for this show. I loved it. All the characters were fun, especially in the flashbacks. Can't wait for season 2. Did you guys catch the bag of Let's potato chips they use to hide the toilet wine? This show exists in the same universe as Community. bring back old gbs fucked around with this message at 21:50 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Windows 98 posted:Haven't seen too many episodes just yet, but I still think the best part about the show so far was Laura Prepon boobs. Another show to follow the Game of Thrones or Spartacus surprise boobs concept. I like how Mulgrew's character is in many ways the mean, perfectionist Seinfeld soup nazi getting sent to jail. etalian fucked around with this message at 21:54 on Jul 22, 2013 |
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Gorn Myson posted:And the tache is just loving perfect. The subtitles consistently refers to him as "Pornstache". It's awesome.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about the two guys having that reaffirming mustache conversation. So goddamn funny. I always imagined that's what mustache guys do when they're alone together. Another thing I liked about this show was that it seemed to purposefully set up situations that would play out brutally on a show like Oz. Like the screwdriver going missing, or getting locked in an industrial dryer. But then they turn the screwdriver into a dildo not a weapon, and getting locked in the dryer doesn't mean horrifying burns, it's just a super huge inconvenience for the characters to deal with. I liked that there were never any really huge stakes raised until the final scene of the final episode.
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