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Mr SuperAwesome
Apr 6, 2011

im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news
my favourite craft brews are brew dog's tactical nuclear penguin because its not about taste noobs its all about max percentage abv :cmon:

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Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

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Buglord
brewing is really boring I'm so sorry for you nerds

power botton
Nov 2, 2011

brewing beer is like repairing your own manual car. like yeah its useful i guess but these days i can just pay someone to do it for me and itll be much more reliable.

Socracheese
Oct 20, 2008

power botton posted:

brewing beer is like repairing your own manual car. like yeah its useful i guess but these days i can just pay someone to do it for me and itll be much more reliable.

not being good at anything is like making dumb posts. like yeah its useful i guess but these days i can just wait for you to do it and it'll be much more reliable

Mr SuperAwesome
Apr 6, 2011

im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news

power botton posted:

brewing beer is like repairing your own manual car. like yeah its useful i guess but these days i can just pay someone to do it for me and itll be much more reliable.

this post is depressing

~Coxy
Dec 9, 2003

R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

power botton posted:

brewing beer is like repairing your own manual car. like yeah its useful i guess but these days i can just pay someone to do it for me and itll be much more reliable.

nah.
brewing beer is like ironing your own clothes.

sure you could pay someone to do it and save some time, but it's not really that hard to do yourself and it saves you money.

Mr SuperAwesome
Apr 6, 2011

im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news
its also loving grwoing booze from yeast and sugar and if you'd rather pay someone to do that because it's "hard work" or "unreliable" then lmao go back to your depressing code monkey cube

and artisanally craft some pure bespoke copy-pasted html5/css or whatever instead. gently caress

Symbolic Butt
Mar 22, 2009

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Buglord
nope sorry

your hobby is a piece of poo poo

Sweevo
Nov 8, 2007

i sometimes throw cables away

i mean straight into the bin without spending 10+ years in the box of might-come-in-handy-someday first

im a fucking monster

power botton posted:

brewing beer is like repairing your own manual car. like yeah its useful i guess but these days i can just pay someone to do it for me and itll be much more reliable.

you're one of those people who thinks paying someone to change a light bulb is something to brag about aren't you

Mr SuperAwesome
Apr 6, 2011

im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news
rule 36 motherfuckers. im so rich that i pay someone to spend their time caring for my garden, caring for my kids, brewing me beer and cooking me good food. with all this spare time i live like a king on delicious food and post in the pos. my life is complete :cool: :smuggo:

sports
Sep 1, 2012
homebrewing is something that isn't really viable. the clear, sterile beers of today are the product of brewing en masse and the tastes of today follows them. so youll never get to the point of making "good" beer because "good" beer is made in a vat thats orders of magnitude larger, im thinkin 105 times larger.

Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag

sports posted:

homebrewing is something that isn't really viable. the clear, sterile beers of today are the product of brewing en masse and the tastes of today follows them. so youll never get to the point of making "good" beer because "good" beer is made in a vat thats orders of magnitude larger, im thinkin 105 times larger.

what

sports
Sep 1, 2012

you will never reach the refreshing power of Genny Cream!!!!! You will regret this!!!!

Mr SuperAwesome
Apr 6, 2011

im from the bad post police, and i'm afraid i have bad news
"brewing is hard and expensive :qq:" lol

Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag
i just got owned by poe's law

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






it's just a goddamn hobby just like any other why the gently caress should you care geez

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
i cant imagine not enjoying a manual gearbox

Panty Saluter
Jan 17, 2004

Making learning fun!
altho i suppose if your only experience is with a stick-in-a-bag-of-rocks gm abomination i can see how u might be soured on the experience

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

sports posted:

you will never reach the refreshing power of Genny Cream!!!!! You will regret this!!!!

i loving love genny

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP
HOLY poo poo LOOK AT THIS EMAIL FROM FLUKE

quote:

SparkFun: We Hear You

Over the last 24 hours, we’ve been watching the conversation around SparkFun. We’ve wanted to join the conversation sooner, but needed to make sure we had all the information in front of us so we could help find the best solution. Thank you for your patience.

Like any organization that designs and manufactures electronics, we actively work to stop lookalike products from making it to the marketplace. We do this to protect our company and the jobs of our employees. We also do so because it is a matter of safety for our customers. Our tools are used in high-energy industrial environments, where precision and safety is an absolute necessity.

I mention this because we firmly believe that we must be – and will continue to be – vigilant in protecting Fluke and our customers. One step in doing that was registering a trademark protecting the look and feel of our devices so our customers know that if it looks like a Fluke it’s a Fluke.

It’s important to know that once we’ve filed for and received trademark protection, US Customs has the responsibility to determine what to stop at the border, or what to seize. In this case, we first learned of this issue from SparkFun’s blog.

We understand how troubling this is for a small company serving the needs of DIY-ers and hobbyists. Here is what we are going to do.

Earlier today we contacted SparkFun and offered to provide a shipment of genuine Fluke equipment, free of charge for them to sell on their site or donate. The value of the equipment exceeds the value of the Customs-held shipment. SparkFun can resell the Fluke gear, recouping the cost of their impounded shipment, or donate it into the Maker community.

While we will continue to enforce our trademark, we are taking this one-time action because we believe in the work of SparkFun supporting the Maker and education communities. This is important to us. We have been supporters of the Maker community for years through the donation of over half a million dollars worth of tools and employee time to organizations like First Robotics.

We look forward to continuing our support of the community, of our customers, and of all the innovators out there.

Sincerely,

Wes Pringle
President, Fluke Corporation

fluke did a good thing. they get a little good PR out of it too, thats fine

Dr. Honked
Jan 9, 2011

eat it you slaaaaaaag
that is very cool of them. that reminds me, i need to buy a decent meter, i have two and they're both garbag

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

well they did a sort of good thing. obviously sparkfun is going to re-donate the multimeters fluke gave them, because it would look really crass of them to sell them to recoup the money. so sparkfun is still out $20,000 for the meters that got destroyed, and the infringing meters get turned directly into e-waste, and fluke gets to write it off.

end result: sparkfun loses $20,000, fluke gets a bunch of their products donated to various hackerspaces or schools or whatever, the planet suffers yet more electronic garbage. isn't it sneaky how these companies work?

Apocadall
Mar 25, 2010

Aren't you the guitarist for the feed dogs?

don't forget that now people are going to experience fluke products first and associate their test equipment with fluke now

great marketing scheme that makes them look like the good guys

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Sagebrush posted:

well they did a sort of good thing. obviously sparkfun is going to re-donate the multimeters fluke gave them, because it would look really crass of them to sell them to recoup the money. so sparkfun is still out $20,000 for the meters that got destroyed, and the infringing meters get turned directly into e-waste, and fluke gets to write it off.

end result: sparkfun loses $20,000, fluke gets a bunch of their products donated to various hackerspaces or schools or whatever, the planet suffers yet more electronic garbage. isn't it sneaky how these companies work?

could fluke, if they wanted to, call up the government (lol whoever it is) and be like "nah let those counterfeits of our product go"? like i don't know is that even an option for them?

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP

Bloody posted:

could fluke, if they wanted to, call up the government (lol whoever it is) and be like "nah let those counterfeits of our product go"? like i don't know is that even an option for them?

sure if they want to be instantly sued by every other supplier that has had shipments crushed for the same reason

once you set a precedent in trademark/copyright land, you have to stay the course. im shocked they stuck their neck out like this

obv it is a good tactical move for Fluke, it's business, i get that. my point stands, they could have said nothing and kept making bank off company budgets which is what funds 99% of their revenue

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

Jonny 290 posted:

HOLY poo poo LOOK AT THIS EMAIL FROM FLUKE


fluke did a good thing. they get a little good PR out of it too, thats fine

that is a pretty rad thing they did

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Bloody posted:

could fluke, if they wanted to, call up the government (lol whoever it is) and be like "nah let those counterfeits of our product go"? like i don't know is that even an option for them?

no, they had no choice there. like jonny says you have to keep w/ a precedent. the other thing that isn't getting mentioned is that you *have* to defend a trademark every chance you are given or you lose it. they can't just say "eh ok this one time we'll let them pass" or the trademark gets revoked as having been genericized. they didn't actually start this one, some random dogooder customs agent in LA did, but once they heard about it they have to follow up.

it's probably the best that could happen given the situation, and fluke is making the best of it marketing wise while also being as nice as possible to sparkfun (they could start an actual lawsuit against them, for instance) but it still kinda sucks for sparkfun being out 20k. then again sparkfun isn't really as small a company as they used to be any more, i still picture them as the little guys but they'e grown up fast. i dunno!

Luigi Thirty
Apr 30, 2006

Emergency confection port.

i have a bk precision 1560 60MHz scope i bought at a government auction for 50 dollars it's pretty sweet

Wild EEPROM
Jul 29, 2011


oh, my, god. Becky, look at her bitrate.
$20k of fluke meters, so I guess sparkfun is getting 10 fluke meters

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP
is it wrong that i want one of the old rear end fluke bench dmms with the big LED displays


better yet did they do nixie DMMs

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






Jonny 290 posted:

is it wrong that i want one of the old rear end fluke bench dmms with the big LED displays


better yet did they do nixie DMMs

yeah the 8100 series


bet they cost stupid money by now

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005




[ASK] Me About OS/2 WARP
i have a new white whale


PDP-1
Oct 12, 2004

It's a beautiful day in the neighborhood.

Jonny 290 posted:

is it wrong that i want one of the old rear end fluke bench dmms with the big LED displays


better yet did they do nixie DMMs



some old dude dropped this off at our hackerspace's pile of interesting junk, i was lucky enough to be there and scooped it up instantly

it didnt measure voltages anywhere near correctly anymore and some of the buttons didnt work but the nixie tubes still function a-ok. the tubes conveniently run at 170V dc which is the same as standard US line voltages and just draw a couple of microamps so it should be pretty easy to gin up a stupid hipster nixie clock or similar atrocity of technology

gotta finish my cnc machine first tho before ADD-ing off to another stupid project

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

figured i should probably know exactly what i'm dealing with here, just to be sure, and whoooeee does 300v ever have a zing to it

the inverter circuit would make a great thing to stick in someone's chair

Bloody
Mar 3, 2013

Jonny 290 posted:

i have a new white whale




oh gently caress i need this

Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
all you beerchat haters are about to get real fukken bored.

brewed a batch today, went p well. it's a honey weizen, which is a hefeweizen with honey in it. apparently the honey will completely ferment, so there won't be any honey taste, it just makes the beer drier or some poo poo idk.

gravity was 1.054, so it's gonna have a decent ABV. unlike my last batch, which was only about 4.1% ABV.

:w00t:

Base Emitter
Apr 1, 2012

?

PDP-1 posted:



some old dude dropped this off at our hackerspace's pile of interesting junk, i was lucky enough to be there and scooped it up instantly

it didnt measure voltages anywhere near correctly anymore and some of the buttons didnt work but the nixie tubes still function a-ok. the tubes conveniently run at 170V dc which is the same as standard US line voltages and just draw a couple of microamps so it should be pretty easy to gin up a stupid hipster nixie clock or similar atrocity of technology

gotta finish my cnc machine first tho before ADD-ing off to another stupid project

nice but if it were me i'd see if i could fix and calibrate it, i'd love a nixie meter even if it was a bit dodgy

Jonny 290 posted:

i have a new white whale




that's pretty damned neat too

01011001
Dec 26, 2012

Jonny 290 posted:

i have a new white whale




:eyepop:

cowboy beepboop
Feb 24, 2001


brewing is fun and cool but the bottling part is dumb and boring and prone to explosions if you're impatient

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Doc Block
Apr 15, 2003
Fun Shoe
yeah, i fukken hate bottling.

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