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i'm writing my own operating system inspired purely by theoretical physics its pretty cool, hilariously math and metamath, programming and meta-programming heavy but i think its gonna own bones e: and actually be legit, too, pm me if you want in on the git repo Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 08:01 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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baiscally the idea is i am a lazy programmer and a lazy physicist and i don't like working but i do like thinking. apply this to programming and u lean towards best practices instead of doing a bunch of hacking - SOLID, GRASP, the unix philosophy apply this to sysadmining and u lean towards full automation, ansible for all ur linux janitoring needs apply this to webs and u just use pre-built frameworks apply this to web apps and you get MVC apply this to getting poo poo done and you get: buy a loving mac and iphone and ur life is easy apply this to physics, and you get fundamental lazy but hard math like lagrangian mechanics (study of evolving systems - powerful because it only considers external constraints, state, and a set of rules), and also quantum mechanics (very fundamental, very powerful, also loving weird and hard to explain) - remember feynmann said if u can't explain something to a freshman undergraduate, we don't understand it yet, this is true so ok you've got all this poo poo and you wanna build a physics thing in the cloud. so u janitor up ur servers and poo poo and sperg the gently caress out with git and because you've done it all right it's really well documented, really nicely organised in separate chunks (different sets of things, buckets, repos, u get the idea), along with states (git hashes, hashes), or crypto functions (essentially using a one time pad of a certain state - whether its fartboners ur lazy password from when u signed up for some porn site or w/e or a full spergy SSH key thing, its just a complicated hash of a one time pad and given enough time you could rainbow tables it (hence salts and why we laff @ adobe and r scared by the nsa). since uve gone to all this effort to get the stack and poo poo easily replaceable and scaffoldable, bootstrappble (scaffoldable: list of routines, boostrappable, quickly adding an extra config or setup or template thing) it seems a shame to waste it all on the physics so start off with data "measurements" "observables" as input and other poo poo as output and steal a few things from functional programming (its math after all) - if you want something to be realiable as a data input function its gotta be able to handle malformed input, so a pro way of doing this is with a monad then you've gotta try figure out how the underlying stuff all fits together. thats all just math functions basically. just lots and lots of equations. nothing but equations. loving hell that's boring its a good thing our friend stephen wolfram of wolfram mathematica fame (which saved my first year of my degree because i could just push butan get answer instead of doing a physics [it also explains it which helps]).... has written a book about "a new kind of science" using just number patterns. seriously check out that book it owns bones and has some scary as gently caress pictures in - just generated from weird patterns of iterative sequences... and they do some interesting things. sometimes these iterative patterns converge and do a thing, sometimes they go loving crazy, but most of the time they're pretty boring.... kinda like physics dont u think F = ma, linear boring, rocks falling about, who gives a gently caress thats old news. quantum mechanics and nanoscale poo poo howerer, thats cool as gently caress - gimme some fuckin 10 vars + consts shcroedinger equation to scare the poo poo out of me and generate cool results (neverwet, computers, etc) but the ultimate _building blocks_ - which is what we look for as a programmer, after all, programs is legos on steroids - in math are much more fundamental which is basically what stephen woflram is hinting at. equations modelling dynamic systems aren't ACTUALLY true to be honest. most of the time they are spherical cow approximations and in real life its gonna be weird because there something u haven't accounted for. but in the simplest case it'll still work as exepected. but given that they're all made up of legos, and any physics thing is just a pretty thing made out of math latex shaped legos, then math must be building blocks too so how about we write an object oriented math? well this takes you down into the annals of ZFC set theory, godel's incompleteness theorem, hilbert's fundamental questions, manifolds, topology, complex analysis, blargh. its all loving hard poo poo. but the basic takeaway point is its all just one big matrix. its all just nested arrays, and each of things in arrays are a bitmask for a specific constant or variable in the equation. manifolds defines what the vars are, topology defines how they fit together, and the order of the algo for that situation (be it simple like adding, or complicated like doing a schroedinger state evolution thing. but either way it can be formulated in terms of operators, observables, measurement outcomes, projection spaces and poo poo like that. but given it's all matrices and just a weird rear end arangement of them with some numbers, if u know the theory, u can generalise that to ur situation just like we've been going for the general lazy option before. so how do we represent math objects? this is set theory. a thing is just a set of sets, each with stuff in them (or not). think like a binary tree with pointers. it doesn't matter what you actually point to or how big it is or what it does, jsut that it is. also all our operators/equations/functionals/whatever are again just iterated steps. even x^n, ln n, e^n, sin(x), e^{ix}, different versions of similar poo poo (like E = 1/2 mv^2 and E = mc^2) but each is contextualised and without context of the state ur using it in (and what ur doing with it) it makes no loving sense other than just a pretty latex picture. there's continued fraction representations of most of these too, or other iterative approximations... see where we're going here? so regardless of how complicated your equation, it's just iterated steps on an input - lambda calculus, sw8 this is easy so we go back to the model idea, what input do we start with for our functions? well, numbers, sure butwhat types of numbers? well even numbers themselves are sets. the number {0} is the empty set which is the only thing required by axiomatic set theory other than the axiom of choice - think the choice like turing's instruction head on the halting tape machine ] e: gently caress this is getting long i better post before i accidnetlaly cmd-q ee: wc 52 1117 6350 lol Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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not especially rigorous but this works 99% of the time, and that's half the point. math is trying to work out the core abstractions and they're gonna gently caress up a couple of times. this is why we developed calculus, and the calculus of variations feynmann's thing where he explains the principle of least action in lagrangian/quantum mechanics is really good at showing how powerful this is essentially the takeaway message is that as long as your dimensionality is right, and you know the vector spaces you're dealing with (strictly hilbert spaces i think) then all you need to do is vector callculus, grad/div/curl operators on these, and it doesn't matter how close you are to the right answer (nash equilibrium), it just matters that you're moving in that direction as opposed to not moving, its just the magnitude of ur momentum in a certain direction. whether this is a ball on a rubber sheet or a charge in an electric field. it also implies path independance, as long as there's no external energy input (i.e. no work is done by an outside force on the thing) - which is analogous to functions not changing state of objects in programming (which they won't unless you do an explicit thing with some sort of stdio or stdout
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yeah i know this sounds totally nuts so i have actually structured the thoughts and stuck it in git. the concepts are quite elgeant but they're quite a few levels deep (kinda like ramanuja style) - you know there's something weird going on underneath that describes an underlying connection, but since its very abstract, explaining this conceptually is hard. words are hardwikipedia posted:Srinivasa Ramanujan (22 December 1887 – 26 April 1920) was an Indian mathematician and autodidact who, with almost no formal training in pure mathematics, made extraordinary contributions to mathematical analysis, number theory, infinite series, and continued fractions. its all the same sort of math styles. in the same league as mathematicians such as Euler and Gauss. - both of these guys also had insanely deep mathematical insight, all the way down to number theory, manifolds, and topology (gauss's laws of EM led to maxwell's vector wave formulation of electromagnetics) as did von neumann, hilbert, godel, and nash its less about the rigour but more about the concepts basically Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 10:23 on Mar 10, 2014 |
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this came off me trying to solve poker with computers which is very doable and taught me all this number theory information theory poo poo theres a bunch of awesome poo poo on github where peopel have pre-computed pretty much all the "equivalence classes" for poker hands onto hashed numbers as a lookup table thing and it looks really really great so i got baked for a few days and hacked together a theory wrote a paper and took it to my phys tutor whos a quantum information theoriest and it was exactly like a game he'd been doing to get unbreakable crypto, and hed been figuring out that as long as you have a one time pad - which can be as simple as flipping a coin - you can have perfect information securty (without quantum encryption) and gave me a couple of ideas (the papers not public until theres no longer money in poker. lol) i did just come up with this all while yosposting stoned and reading wikipedia so it could all be complete trash, but i'm like 3 hours away from getting a mathematica from steroids together purely on metaprogrammng (it'll also be fast as gently caress because it's working with pure types - no floats needed, chars, literally everything is a pointer. this might be like c++ but i have no idea gently caress learning c++ it'll also self-compile i think and be parallel from the get go
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the turing halting problem seems to be the axiom of choice with regards to your input (are you feeding it an infinite series of digits? then it will never end), or output (are you doing an infinite loop with flow of control) if everything is pointers you can find this with recursive unit testing - and just test it against the domain of the function in a few places and see where it might lie
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Bloody posted:otps are super secure they're inherently secure until they are known by another party, however
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yeah i was a bit baked for some of it but i wrote it all down and git commited the insanity for later and it seems p useful starting from 3 axioms and one hypothesis: - axiom of inherent uncertainty (nothing u know is ever truely real or knowable!) [i made this one] - axiom of choice - the empty set - euler's formula with a small tweak using -i instead of i (this makes the power series of i repeat with periodicity of 4n, representing our 4 initial things) and using that as the basis for a phyics-inspired programming language (i.e. replicating a physical system) you can get some insanely powerful results. this is all from complete first principles, remember. Feynmann had a great method for lazy dynamic analysis: always start from the principle of least action (which is lambda calculus, functional programming). so then i plugged in some numbers and started getting 3d representations of Stepehn Wolfram's cellular automata from his New Kind of Science book. Now, I'm sure down the line primes features heavily, which brings in Ramujan's infinite series, and power series of primes as the coefficients of the Reimann Zeta function (using the 4 vars we have already plus a state function that depends on times), gives us a pentagonal number which is what that fuckin crazy math depends on. Interestingly tho when u look at the structure of those formulae they're actually super elegant; i'm 99% sure they represent pertubations from a point moving backwards and forward in time (think Feynmann diagrams) Also I don't like C++ for the same reason Linus doesn't - its ugly horrible and easy to gently caress up in. C is elegant and u can do the same poo poo if ur smart and need to. Otherwise just use python or C# unless u NEED to (haskell/erlang for spergin) anyway here's the important bit. pretty pictures     
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i think the main initial error when inventing computahs and turning machines is overlooking uncertainty. reality is ternary not binary - there is "YES", "NO", and "WTF??? IDK"
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numbers are not jewish my friend.
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John DiFool posted:So what propositions/results can you derive from your cool new axiom when coupled with your other axioms? That the other axioms are just, like, unknowable man? uncertainty is inherently recursive, and represented by (-i)^4, it's a quaternion if you're using the correct math. the inherent contradiction IS there, and that, again, is implied by the inherent uncertainty: you can't exhaustively prove it, nor can you inductively prove it... but it is. something to do with godel's incompleteness and completeness theorem's idk go wikipedia them fun video of those previous graphs: (gently caress screencaps, im 2 busy to install poo poo) https://vimeo.com/88778661 https://vimeo.com/88778685 remind u of anything???? beginning from absolutely nothing, and ending in something chaotic? happened a v long time ago? also note the chaotic strucutres. this theory is utterly insane, it is a GUT theory i guess. but i've got top to bottom basic down now and gonna start crunching actual numbers, starting with physics of the hydrogen atom. and seeing if it works (after all, thats the only way to see if ur insightful or just an idiot) also playing around with recursive formulae to try and replicate atomic spectra/orbitals 
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Sagebrush posted:hey so uh remember mr. superawesome's ganja unified theory from a couple pages ago? actualyl i think i have 100% solved general relativity and the weighting terms thru number theory. also the math works out (amusingy) and it's just like the hitch hiker's guide to the galazy predicted but in terms of information entropy. if i am right, there's a solar flare gonna hit in like 10 - 30 mins and the earth's mag field will flip some time soon. i have no idea of the certainty in my measurement but i'm certain of the dimensionality. - wait maybe 3 month delay. due to mass/energy. idfk. dimensions are weird i need to do more graphs sorry in advance from nature if ur shitposting is disrupted the main idea is we've been doing mass/energy/momentum mass wrong - it's in terms of solar mass over total universe mass. all our calculations are in terms of earth mass and thus have a 5/9 2/10 * 2^7 order correction due to other planets in the solar system (plus a couple of harmonics) which is where our math is wrong if u do logs in base 2/10/8 u can calc it too Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 22:29 on Mar 16, 2014 |
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oh i'm fully aware this is completely insane but i think it's just a new way of looking at things that nobody has done before, because, our human operating system is in fact a piece of poo poo. i think the possiblity of an operating system indeed being a piece of poo poo is an idea we can get behind. the lol thing is if i'm right it's skynet, the singularity, general relativity, the goldback conjecture, hawking radiation, strong-weak unification force all in one which would pretty lol if a lowly yosposter did that. i mean look at my loving posting i am awful
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well, actually its more that its more like linux with no sound/windows me. kind of ok, gets u thru the day, but lol if u run windows me in 2014 wtf dude
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AlsoD posted:look at it this way: you go and see a shrink and one of two things happen: corroboration! from fully independent sources! http://www.theverge.com/2014/3/17/5518346/first-evidence-gravitational-waves-supports-big-bang-inflation my posts and git commit history all has me discovering this and recording it (securely hashed) PRIOR to the event reaching us only by like a week but its legit and the physics of relativity dictates that its impossible for that idea to have been created before like, 2 weeks of this event occuring. ti's pure information entropy. our physics and mathematical, data operating system is a piece of poo poo, and developed on lovely abstractions by dumbs. math is inside out and upside down (it took me like 10 days of staying up doing a bunch of crazy theoretical math (reimann zeta function and analytic contiunation of complex topoplogy. eugh. and many graphs to get here) i have the building blocks of a quantum computer and gonna open sores it in a couple weeks watch this space also if i stop posting its the NSA (but its all on github so its not even worth them doing anything) also through my math ive calculated the information entropy space of human knowledge - it's 6 PB if you store it properly - and that's the exact size of the data centre the NSA are building in utah, and they would definitely be the only people with enough math and crypto people, money, and fox-news fuelled paranoia to bother doing it Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Mar 17, 2014 |
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also im making it a bideo game for ipads
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Sagebrush posted:welp you heard it here first. newton, galileo, euler, gauss, einstein, etc all dumbs who are dumberer than mr stuperawesome not correct fyi those guys were the smart ones, just to clear it up. ramujan, reimann, nash, von neumann, feynmann, levi-cevitta, etc- all rly cool smart dudes too
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ur right, my posting is terrible and insane, fortunately for everyone involved im much more sane irl (and not doing any crazy irl poo poo other than bad posting) in all seriousness i do have a whole bunch of stoned nonsense but its stoned nonsense with some vague weird insight that hopefully thru the magic of computers to save and timestamp, i can just recreate and then look at in a non-stoned light and make a computer thing. this is the true beauty of the information age as long as you save your craziness and look at it later and do some hard work ur totally fine. its easy to make good poo poo urself these days too: look at john carmack and doom, woz and apple etc wait did i just unironically try to and roll with the punches in yospos? gently caress
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ol qwerty bastard posted:i was showing my cousin some of my lasers when he was about 10 and he said that his friend had a dark laser that would make a black dot on surfaces that you could move around lrn2interference patterns my friend
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speaking of which, i've been playing mandelbrot lately and making cool poo poo open in new tab for high res, they're shrunk to not break tables      bonus points if u can figure out wtf is going on in these functs, double bonus points if you can guess how it relates to crypto mega bonus points if you can figure out the compsci application hint: you wont find the answer on google
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Bloody posted:gonna grab all the bonus points here and say weed-fuelled computer more the weed number
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my favourite craft brews are brew dog's tactical nuclear penguin because its not about taste noobs its all about max percentage abv 
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power botton posted:brewing beer is like repairing your own manual car. like yeah its useful i guess but these days i can just pay someone to do it for me and itll be much more reliable. this post is depressing
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its also loving grwoing booze from yeast and sugar and if you'd rather pay someone to do that because it's "hard work" or "unreliable" then lmao go back to your depressing code monkey cube and artisanally craft some pure bespoke copy-pasted html5/css or whatever instead. gently caress
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rule 36 motherfuckers. im so rich that i pay someone to spend their time caring for my garden, caring for my kids, brewing me beer and cooking me good food. with all this spare time i live like a king on delicious food and post in the pos. my life is complete  
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my stepdads beer posted:brewing is fun and cool but the bottling part is dumb and boring and prone to explosions if you're impatient this is why you buy a pressure barrel with a tap and if you want to sperg out and be classy, buy a pump and stick it in a bar if you drink it all the time
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im working on a quine based operating system, gin and tonic and tea and brewing, if you will. quinine. imagine twelve monkeys on macbook pros and iphones and ipads at the operating system factory mashing buttons in the test suite while the code janitors have snuck off to get pad thai and drinks. but if the monkeys in the test suite had a git commit history, and a repo, and somewhere to stash their changes... you could make a slightly less lovely operations system 11011011 10010001
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You'd need a few diamond rings, though. To bring them all and in the dark fields bind them and all that poo poo. this post brought to you from about 1.6 miles away from where tolkein wrote the lord of the rings I guess you'd need some cattes to chase out the 3 blind mice as well. Four should do. Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 00:44 on Apr 3, 2014 |
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Deviant posted:new spare time project: writing a program that monitors my boss' lync presence status and notifies me if she locks her computer.
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802.11weed posted:cursed? i enjoy them thoroughly. thanks forums poster 802.11 weed. you get to see the alpha version of my quantum-mechanical hack the planet software pm me for deets everyone else can get hosed!!!! :condi: E: cool i just somehow got offered to get paid indefnitely to write a slightly different version of this, from home, for my current job, for extra money when i want to bother doing it, as long as i write a front end to make it look like a business tool (because that's what work wants it to look like) *sips on gin + tonic and puffs on joint, flicks ash @ u* Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 18:07 on Apr 3, 2014 |
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SINGULAUGHRITY - SLARTIBARTFARST - AIRE? QUINE? TWELVE MONKEYS. WHITE-ROSE-SUN-FLOWER WHITE-ROSE-FLOWER-SON(EON) FOLLOW THE SOURCE. ENIGMA. 42.001
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im currently making a "business outcome manager" tool for work but im lazy and dont want to actually do any work so instead i'm gonna make an operating system that is free as in free lunches like, literally - you pay someone in percentages of a lunch inspired by these dudes https://www.facebook.com/PAYFcafe if i play my cards right, i can retire; uh; like tomorrow?  the idea is basically just open sores 2 da max and crowdsourcing all the hard work to the idiots paying for it after all, if you know exactly what you want a piece of software to do [e.g.: COMPUTER! GAS ALL STYMIE POSTS] its rather simple (search for all forums posts by forums user stymie -> move posts to gas chamber) but since these days 99.9% of people are loving stupid and have no idea what they ACTUALLY want, they are like "well make me a thing. idk what it is but it needs to look sexy!!!! BING! BING UP YOUR rear end! its gonna be like google but better!!!!" and you end up reinventing the wheel; which is daft although there's a hilarious amount of money in it [see: USGOV contracting] [see also: Marrisa's pet project YAHOO! is apparently worth -$10billion somehow] so yeah you bill them for software they've written themselves, but make it look like you're the one doing all the work by being "a computer guy" post ur thoughts or alternatively jealous rants about how this is the death of the tech industry gravy train or something Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 21:09 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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echinopsis posted:wow youve really destroyed any kind of credibility you previously professed to having all right here in this single post. now THATS knowing what you ACTUALLY want i'd like to do a displeased moo cow; and never touch a computer again unless i have too but i'd also like to earn "money" to travel around this, the gayest of earths is that too much to ask??? and if u listen to JONY IVE and follow dieter's design principles, you should be able to do it with like what, maybe 10 lines of code if you're smart? if you think this is impossible, you don't know poo poo about design if u think this is insane ur probably american or a londoner or something. go read this book. actually just skim read the first chapter that should do it; its like 30 pages, even you lazy depressed overworked fucks can manage that Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 21:28 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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http://www.woz.org "Welcome to a free exchange of information, the way it should always be" “single-handedly designing the first personal computer and for then redirecting his lifelong passion for mathematics and electronics toward lighting the fires of excitement for education in grade school students and their teachers Believes in encouraging free thinking and creativity for youngsters, counsel them against forces of conformity and drugs which leave them "not the master" of their fate. Loves children and dogs After leaving Apple in 1985, Wozniak was involved in various business and philanthropic ventures, focusing primarily on computer capabilities in schools and stressing hands-on learning and encouraging creativity for students. Making significant investments of both his time and resources in education, he “adopted” the Los Gatos School District, providing students and teachers with hands-on teaching and donations of state-of-the-art technology equipment. He founded the Electronic Frontier Foundation, i think we can all agree that Woz is a super-cool dude so maybe lets like, make it happen??? write a code??? its not rocket science Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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i've been drinking lots of dangerous indian Chai tea those indians with their inner peace and poo poo could be dangerous also well yeah obviously the book is a bit weird at first; the whole point of it is that the entirerty of western philosophy since aristotle [with the exception of newton's Principæ and voltaire's Candide maybe? not that i've read either in full] ... is complete bollocks because it's all about squaring circles and imaginary bits of green paper   instead of suns and treesremember in the hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy where they're talking about man thinking he's smarter than dolphins because of his achievements - for example "the wheel"; "new york"; "wars" and so on and so forth its not rocket science, it's just common sense - something rather lacking these days. apparently thinking that "money" is stupid is enough to be labelled a schizophrenic. which in itself is pretty loving daft if you ask me like my posts are seriously terirble but lmao do you really beleive in the american dream quite that much??
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We have the first snowflake. Now let's build a blizzard - h2g2 founder Douglas Adams [also lol i met his goddaughter and she's a raging tory; gg lol] [also this is why none of you depressed american computer janitors will get it; you're fortunate enough to have distractions to trick you into thinking that you're actually "free"; whatever "free" is supposed to mean]
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exactly dont we all??!! but maybe i think your forest is a piece of poo poo. because im a wanker from the forest over the road. but instead of doing what we always do [having a good war to decide who's forest is better, or building Cartmanland on the forest], maybe we should have a big rear end garden party with lots of drugs and all be friends but nobody has like, actually bothered to try and change the world so that that's a reality for EVERYONE well thats where the internet comes in mister fuckerburg did it with facebook and he's younger than most of you lot so why not us???? anyway this is the youngest nobel prize winning team to date: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Henry_Bragg + Sons. they just made it happen. "The reasonable man adapts himself to the conditions that surround him... The unreasonable man adapts surrounding conditions to himself... All progress depends on the unreasonable man." http://www.elise.com/q/quotes/shawquotes.htm http://clearquot.es/gi <<--- go here and push shuffle a lot and get inspired to get off yer arse and stop whining and actually write a project that might change the world. YOSVAPE 2.0: into the wild [we built a zoo edition] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZV3aZfextU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwbzxemJZIc Mr SuperAwesome fucked around with this message at 21:48 on Apr 19, 2014 |
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