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jassi007
Aug 9, 2006

mmmmm.. burger...

Pato posted:

For those of you who don't want to shave, have you considered hair removal cream? I used Veet before my vasectomy and it worked just fine. I got as close as possible with hair clippers and then did everything else with the cream. It took quite a while (I think i left that stuff on there for like 5 times the recommended time) but it worked. Just be sure to test it out on a small patch first in case it burns or something. I didn't have any problems but I wouldn't take any chances with chemical creams on my nutsack.

My nether regions are very sensitive. Lets say as a child I experiment with whacking materials, and shampoo used to make my skin peel down there. I am super careful about things I put on/near my junk.

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FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

jassi007 posted:

My nether regions are very sensitive. Lets say as a child I experiment with whacking materials, and shampoo used to make my skin peel down there. I am super careful about things I put on/near my junk.

Shampoo is meant to be diluted with water and rinsed out within minutes :gonk:

Tiger balm. Now that was a hell of a ride. :supaburn:

RazorBunny
May 23, 2007

Sometimes I feel like this.

The Bramble posted:

It seems like people generally aren't given prescription pain killers afterwards, huh?

My husband was given a prescription for Percocet after his procedure, but never filled it.

Pato
Mar 15, 2006
Duck
I got Vicodin but never needed it. It honestly just felt really sore and lovely but not outright horrible pain like someone stabbing you in the balls or anything. It was just dull, sore pain. Ice those fuckers like they're going out of style seriously. Don't even think about skimping on this. I had my jock strap and ice packs/peas ready to go (probably the reason I was basically 100% after 3 days).

jassi007
Aug 9, 2006

mmmmm.. burger...

The Entire Universe posted:

Shampoo is meant to be diluted with water and rinsed out within minutes :gonk:

Tiger balm. Now that was a hell of a ride. :supaburn:

I can't possibly be the only teen to try it. :P

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Pato posted:

I got Vicodin but never needed it. It honestly just felt really sore and lovely but not outright horrible pain like someone stabbing you in the balls or anything. It was just dull, sore pain. Ice those fuckers like they're going out of style seriously. Don't even think about skimping on this. I had my jock strap and ice packs/peas ready to go (probably the reason I was basically 100% after 3 days).

Seems like good advice. Did you take any ibuprofen or whatnot? I assume you wouldn't want to take aspirin, but the ice is definitely going to happen. I've got no jockstrap but do you put the icepack/peas right up against the junk? Or outside the whities?

DGK2000
May 3, 2007

Hotel Soap is super proud of his little perfumed balls that never get dirty or stinky

Pato posted:

For those of you who don't want to shave, have you considered hair removal cream? I used Veet before my vasectomy and it worked just fine. I got as close as possible with hair clippers and then did everything else with the cream. It took quite a while (I think i left that stuff on there for like 5 times the recommended time) but it worked. Just be sure to test it out on a small patch first in case it burns or something. I didn't have any problems but I wouldn't take any chances with chemical creams on my nutsack.

Be very careful. I have a permanent bald spot on my balls from trying this, and it hurt like hell.

E: On the upside, I guess there's a part I never have to consider shaving.

Scald
May 5, 2008
Probation
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jassi007 posted:

I can't possibly be the only teen to try it. :P

Nope, having your dick peel is a pretty sobering experience. Actually shaving isn't difficult though as long as you don't cheap out on the razors, I don't find lady razors to be as good for it though due to the way they're shaped.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

How do y'all manage that shave job? just Cap'n Morgan up on the bathtub and get to work?



BCBS is perfectly happy to let me make sure I have next to no chance of making (them pay out for) a kid.

e: I actually moved my surgery up to this Friday - consult Thursday, snip Friday. The scheduling lady didn't so much as ask me why (the truth is I have things at work I really would like to be present for next week) but I have no idea how the consultation is going to go down. The guy's got 36 years of experience so I imagine he could probably roll up with a fifth and a smoke and still leave me with no side effects.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Sep 11, 2013

brettster55
Aug 7, 2013

Apparently the ask you to clean the pipes after surgery before having sex, if you follow me.

Masonity
Dec 31, 2007

What, I wonder, does this hidden face of madness reveal of the makers? These K'Chain Che'Malle?

brettster55 posted:

Apparently the ask you to clean the pipes after surgery before having sex, if you follow me.

Yeah. And if you think the surgery hurts, wait until 3 weeks later when its all healed but you have to squeeze a bottle brush in there to clean it out before sex. :-(

But in all seriousness it's more the need to flush the pipes before condom free sex as otherwise you may still have swimmers. It's something like 3 months and 20 ejaculations before they suggest A test for swimmers.

NOTE: you are not free to have unprotected sex until at least one and preferably two clear sperm tests. Otherwise you are gambling.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

/\ I heard you could just get a bit of drano in there, should take care of it.

brettster55 posted:

Apparently the ask you to clean the pipes after surgery before having sex, if you follow me.

It takes a couple months for the pipes to fully clear out before you can be confident you're shooting blanks.

The Bramble
Mar 16, 2004

Pato posted:

I got Vicodin but never needed it. It honestly just felt really sore and lovely but not outright horrible pain like someone stabbing you in the balls or anything. It was just dull, sore pain. Ice those fuckers like they're going out of style seriously. Don't even think about skimping on this. I had my jock strap and ice packs/peas ready to go (probably the reason I was basically 100% after 3 days).

I got a circumcision a couple years ago that left me out of action for a couple weeks with my junk completely bandaged up to the point I couldn't even really wear pants, and went through 2-3 bottles of painkillers. Overall it sounds like a vasectomy is a lot easier and less painful than that experience was. Thanks for the info, guys! And girl!

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Used high-end Tabac tallow-based shave soap for the boys. I figure it's the least I could do given what they're in for.

Heck, making my balls smell decent is probably a reasonable courtesy for the doc too.

E: Holy poo poo my doc looks/sounds like a more healthy Walter White.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 17:33 on Sep 12, 2013

Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

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The Bramble posted:

I'm curious, for those of you in your 20s who have gotten it done or are considering it: do you talk to your parents about it and if so, what has the reaction been? I don't want kids, I don't want to use condoms with my partner, and I also know my mother accepting she isn't getting a grandchild from me would be impossible. How do you navigate that conversation, or do you just not have it?

I told my parents after the fact. My dad wasn't surprised at all and my mom took it in stride like a champ although I could tell she wasn't thrilled. I told her I'd probably adopt someday and she cheered up a bit.

Their opinion didn't really factor into it because if there's something that's really not their business it's the elective surgery I have on my balls. "I just want to rawdog it all the time, mom! Get off my case!"

The Zombie Guy
Oct 25, 2008

Sexgun Rasputin posted:

"I just want to rawdog it all the time, mom! Get off my case!"

This is the best possible way to tell anybody about your surgery.

There will always be people who won't be able to wrap their heads around your decision. The key thing to remember is that it is your decision to make (along with your partner), and everybody else just needs to deal with it.

My parents and my wife's parents were both a little taken aback at our choice not to have kids, but they've accepted it, and we don't hear about it anymore.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Look at it this way: If they know you don't want kids, then as far as they know you simply keep it wrapped and never have kids. No sense in telling them if it's just going to make Mom cry and Pops talk to you about manhood or whatever. I lucked out and have two brothers and a sister, at least one of which is totally cool with eventually having kids one day and his girlfriend/proto-fiancee is pretty obvious about how she wants a bun in the oven like yesterday.


e1: I was expecting some pain. What I got instead (no needle-no scalpel) was a doctor that joked the whole time (dude strolls in with a "surgery for dummies" prop book and asks the assistant if she was sure this was the sex change, started talking about how he was a real stickler for sterility when swabbing my junk with iodine :haw:), no pain at all (I wouldn't call the hypospray hit pain, more like a flick) and they even gave me a bag of peas for the road. When the doc was first manipulating the vas, it felt a bit like pressure, like a slightly brusque ball cancer check. The doc was watching my face and was ready to hit me with another shot of anesthetic as soon as I so much as flinched. Which I did, and he gave me the shot, and then hit the other vas with a shot just to be safe.

E2: I'm finding out that this guy is drat good. I have almost zero pain, what pain there is is just on the cusp of discomfort. The guy who said it was like a half-hour old kick in the balls is spot on. Just a very dull ghost of pain. E3: This pain was previously fairly generalized, has now focused (but not really intensified) alongside where the scrotum meets groin meets base of shaft. I'm assuming this is the severed and cauterized vas being very unhappy at being violated.

What kind of movement/touching is acceptable? I keep needing to adjust the peas to get up alongside the sack, as the incisions were on either side. However, I keep getting an itch on the lower front part of it, far from either incision. Would I be able to just gently scratch that one spot and not risk hematoma? What about the 'stubble' causing an itch along the base of my shaft?

This is going to be a little tougher than initially expected. See, cats love jumping up from the floor into your lap while you sit.

All in all A+++ would joke again with doctor about how I was going to ride steeplechase this evening and motocross this weekend. Considering this is the denouement of a near decade-long internal dialogue, I feel like a massive weight has been lifted from my shoulders.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Sep 14, 2013

HPanda
Sep 5, 2008

The Entire Universe posted:

This is going to be a little tougher than initially expected. See, cats love jumping up from the floor into your lap while you sit.

I know the feeling here. I have two cats and a toddler (infant didn't give me trouble here). My two-year-old loves to run and launch herself into people when they're sitting. I'm telling you, constant vigilance is key. Nut shots hurt like hell in the first week.

And if you're anything like me, the itching is just gonna be a thing for a couple weeks. That was the most annoying part of the whole experience. You can touch just fine for the first few days, just don't actually scratch. Move things around as infrequently as possible.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

So far, no bruising. I was iced up yesterday, slept with the jock on, today I'm using heat. Less sore today than yesterday, which wasn't that bad to begin with.

e: Also, zero bruising that I can see. That's a massive win. It still hurt a bit when I took the jock and briefs off due to the lack of support but once those go back on it's not noticeable. Not bad at all. Oh, also:



FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 04:34 on Sep 15, 2013

Masonity
Dec 31, 2007

What, I wonder, does this hidden face of madness reveal of the makers? These K'Chain Che'Malle?
One warning I forgot to add to the OP that's worth mentioning to the people about to have it done...

It'll be a week or so before the stitches dissolve and you can take the bandage off / get your pecker wet in a shower or bath sense. So it gets nasty. Buy some anti thrush cream just incase. The trauma to the area plus tighty-whiteys and the bandage led to the first and last yeast infection / thrush I've ever had. And it wasn't pleasant. A good wash and a couple of days of cream sorted it out though.

Friendly Fire
Dec 29, 2004
All my friends got me for my birthday was this stupid custom title. Fuck my friends.
I'm 34 with 2 kids and had my vasectomy about 2 months ago. I had the consult where the doctor asked all the "are you sure" questions and then he had a bit of a feel around to check all was well down there.

The procedure itself went fine. I'm in Australia and it seems it is standard to knock you out instead of using a local anaesthetic, and after reading some of the posts here my advice would be to take that option if you have it. I can't imagine being concious while someone was cutting into my scrotum.

Recovery wasn't much of an issue, mostly just discomfort with pain only if I moved around too quickly. I had the bag of frozen peas handy but didn't need them in the end as I had almost no swelling. After about a week the discomfort was pretty much gone, my balls were a little tender for another week though.

Total cost was $37.50 for the GP appointment for the referral, while the doctors consult and procedure itself cost nothing due to the evils of a socialised medical system. I did have to sit on a waiting list for about 6 months but you can't have everything I guess.


HPanda posted:

I know the feeling here. I have two cats and a toddler (infant didn't give me trouble here). My two-year-old loves to run and launch herself into people when they're sitting. I'm telling you, constant vigilance is key. Nut shots hurt like hell in the first week.

Yeah, this. My 2 year old loves to play jump on daddy. On the 3rd day after the procedure, I let my guard down a little as the pain was pretty much gone and I copped a falling knee to the balls. Getting hit in the nuts is never fun but soon after a vasectomy is just another level of pain.

Masonity posted:

One warning I forgot to add to the OP that's worth mentioning to the people about to have it done...

It'll be a week or so before the stitches dissolve and you can take the bandage off / get your pecker wet in a shower or bath sense. So it gets nasty. Buy some anti thrush cream just incase. The trauma to the area plus tighty-whiteys and the bandage led to the first and last yeast infection / thrush I've ever had. And it wasn't pleasant. A good wash and a couple of days of cream sorted it out though.
I didn't have an issue with this at all. I was told I could shower normally and had no bandages at all. Are there different types of dissolving stiches or something because I showered daily after the procedure and my stiches still lasted a week before disappearing?

Friendly Fire fucked around with this message at 12:04 on Sep 15, 2013

Masonity
Dec 31, 2007

What, I wonder, does this hidden face of madness reveal of the makers? These K'Chain Che'Malle?

Friendly Fire posted:

I didn't have an issue with this at all. I was told I could shower normally and had no bandages at all. Are there different types of dissolving stiches or something because I showered daily after the procedure and my stiches still lasted a week before disappearing?

Maybe. I had needle and scalpel if that makes a difference, and had it done on the NHS in the UK. I was told not to get the area wet for a week so the stitches didn't dissolve too early. May have been a bit less than a week, my memory is a bit hazy.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Mine was no needle/no scalpel and they said no showering for 24-48 hours. I had no stitches, just steri-strips.

E: The only thing resembling pain at this point is when I was in the shower and didn't have any support, and it was just a pulling discomfort more than pain. The hole they made on the right side had its steri-strips fall off already and it's, well, what used to be a hole. Now it's sealed up and scabbed, but that's what caused a few spots of blood on the briefs the first day, with a couple pinhead-sized dots the second day. At its worst I'd say the blood was equivalent to a fairly decent shaving nick.

Overall the recovery is better than anything I was expecting. I am probably going to be back to boxers only by the end of the week at this rate. We, uh, cleaned the pipes the night before/morning of the procedure so we'll see how that turns out with regard to how soon I get the all-clear.

I'm deathly afraid of the spontaneous recanalization, though. I presume the vasectomy to be permanent and I want it to be, and the thought that suddenly I could become un-snipped at some point without warning petrifies me.

FAUXTON fucked around with this message at 02:31 on Sep 16, 2013

classic girl
Aug 25, 2004

The Bramble posted:

It seems like people generally aren't given prescription pain killers afterwards, huh?

My husband was given a script for 20 Dilaudid. By comparison, I delivered twins vaginally (and a singleton less than two years before that) and was given a few measly Tylenol 3s afterward. Hmmmph. Anyway, he filled the prescription but didn't bother to take any; he said three Advil and keeping it iced constantly was fine.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

classic girl posted:

My husband was given a script for 20 Dilaudid. By comparison, I delivered twins vaginally (and a singleton less than two years before that) and was given a few measly Tylenol 3s afterward. Hmmmph. Anyway, he filled the prescription but didn't bother to take any; he said three Advil and keeping it iced constantly was fine.

I received a prescription for 10 Vicoden 10/650's. I've taken a total of 6 since Friday afternoon, and I think I probably could have done with less.

DGK2000
May 3, 2007

Hotel Soap is super proud of his little perfumed balls that never get dirty or stinky

classic girl posted:

My husband was given a script for 20 Dilaudid. By comparison, I delivered twins vaginally (and a singleton less than two years before that) and was given a few measly Tylenol 3s afterward. Hmmmph. Anyway, he filled the prescription but didn't bother to take any; he said three Advil and keeping it iced constantly was fine.

Uh, I've been on Dilaudid for major exploratory surgery. It is absolutely massive overkill for a little nip and stitch.

Edit- Did they replace his testicles with neuticles? That might explain it.

Pato
Mar 15, 2006
Duck
I never had any showering issues. I didn't scrub my testes directly and made sure the water wasn't just landing on my junk and I was fine. And the prescribed anti-pain meds were never actually needed. I had the needle and scalpel method too. And I wouldn't recommend getting knocked out for the procedure actually. It's really loving simple and literally took 15 minutes. Full anesthetization is like a controlled coma (or so I've heard) so why take a big risk for such a small event? I only felt pain once and the doctor just shot me up with more anesthesia and I was fine.

Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

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I got 30 vicodin. I only really needed them for the first day when it felt like there was a brick on my balls and I probably could've soldiered through it.

But a week of getting pampered and relaxing with some drugs was almost worth the $500 by itself.

Did anybody get gas? I practically begged for it but they wanted to double the cost of my procedure to do it so I went with valium instead.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

I didn't get gas, or even a calmer pill before surgery (hell I was hopped up on my daily dose of vyvanse) but the $2.25 the pain pills cost (the procedure was free) was worth it just to make any pain go off into floatyland. I had the whole weekend to bounce back, spending a Friday afternoon looped out on vicoden playing vidja games with goons is not the worst scenario.

classic girl
Aug 25, 2004

DGK2000 posted:

Uh, I've been on Dilaudid for major exploratory surgery. It is absolutely massive overkill for a little nip and stitch.

Edit- Did they replace his testicles with neuticles? That might explain it.

LOL, no, I suspect the urologist just didn't want to be bothered with a call about the pain. They also gave him enough Valium to knock out a horse ahead of time. But whatever, we have a Pill Baby (yes, I was taking it correctly) and twins that were not conceived using fertility drugs so apparently I'm pretty fertile and we weren't taking chances. Our kids rock but we are absolutely done and wanted something permanent. The urologist claimed he's never had a patient with a "regrowth" and three years later, my husband is still shooting blanks, so yay for the snip-snip!

Edit: BTW, even given our situation, we had a hell of a time finding a doctor who would do the surgery for him because he was 33 at the time. The first two places we called said "absolutely not" because he was under 35. Crazy.

classic girl fucked around with this message at 16:37 on Sep 16, 2013

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

classic girl posted:

Edit: BTW, even given our situation, we had a hell of a time finding a doctor who would do the surgery for him because he was 33 at the time. The first two places we called said "absolutely not" because he was under 35. Crazy.

This is such bullshit (on the providers' parts, not yours). I could see having a talk or requiring a consultation with a couple weeks before the snip to dwell on it, but flat out saying, excuse the pun, 'no gently caress you I know you're going off half-cocked' is lovely. I lucked out and had a doc who had no problem doing it but I had explained I'd been mulling it over for almost 10 years.

HPanda
Sep 5, 2008
It really is pretty crappy that some doctors will refuse a patient. In my situation, it's actually highly dangerous for my wife to get pregnant again(for her and potential kid), so we need to be quite sure it won't happen.

Luckily, the doctor that did my vasectomy didn't even question it. Well, I mean, I guess on the way to the table he asked "So, you have two kids and you're done then?" I said yes and that was that. I was 29 at the time, and from what I'm hearing here, most doctors wouldn't have even considered doing it for me.

Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

(and can't post for 687 days!)

Had to ask my doctor if he had any reservations performing the procedure on a childless 25 year old.

"No."

:v:

I had a whole spiel ready too. Dude was just passionate about sterilizing people.

jassi007
Aug 9, 2006

mmmmm.. burger...
I had my consultation last friday. It was a waste of a co-pay I'll tell you that. "So you want to be steralized?" yup. "Do you have any questions?" nope. "I do it tues. or thurs. when do you want to do it?" how about x date. "ok we'll call you!"

If I made whatever he charged for 30 seconds of conversation I'd be pretty well off.

Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

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jassi007 posted:

I had my consultation last friday. It was a waste of a co-pay I'll tell you that. "So you want to be steralized?" yup. "Do you have any questions?" nope. "I do it tues. or thurs. when do you want to do it?" how about x date. "ok we'll call you!"

If I made whatever he charged for 30 seconds of conversation I'd be pretty well off.

Didn't he have to briefly knead your scrotum to make sure all your bits were intact before he agreed to do the procedure?

Not only that but he's supposed to be able to rattle off statistics regarding failure rates and risk of chronic pain. And what he's prepared to do in case of a botched procedure.

jassi007
Aug 9, 2006

mmmmm.. burger...

Sexgun Rasputin posted:

Didn't he have to briefly knead your scrotum to make sure all your bits were intact before he agreed to do the procedure?

Not only that but he's supposed to be able to rattle off statistics regarding failure rates and risk of chronic pain. And what he's prepared to do in case of a botched procedure.

nope! He said shave your scrot under the penis. Didn't even take off my pants. He was recommened to me so idk.

CzarChasm
Mar 14, 2009

I don't like it when you're watching me eat.
My process was a bit different. I was 25 or 26 at the time. Talked to the GP, he went over the risks and asked for reasons why. I never really wanted kids, my wife doesn't want kids and her medication would cause pretty severe birth defects anyway.

Met with urologist, went over the same details, scheduled the appointment. They provided the jock to change into, knocked me out via IV, and I woke up some time later with what felt like a diaper on.

Instructions were to ice it and they gave me a scrip for Valium which I didn't take. Had it done about 5 years ago, and cost about $400 after insurance.

My parents don't know, or don't care, and I'm not going to advertise. In-laws don't know either, but it's none of their business. My in-laws have multiple kids of their own, one who's wife is going to pop in a few months and the other who has been gung-ho about kids since forever.

Only my wife and my best friend know (though he blurted it out to his parents).

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
Well I was pleasantly surprised when I brought up the idea of a vasectomy to my primary doc during my physical the other day. He referred me to the urologist that did his and said he didn't think I'd get any push back about it even though I'm 28 and without children.

He was right so far. The urologist's office called me back today and scheduled the consultation AND procedure for the same day in late October. They're going to send me an information packet in the mail so I guess I'll find out then what sort of procedure they use. Getting it done at the start of a 3 day weekend so I'll see if I can get back to work on time or maybe I'll have to take some medical leave.

I'm excited and nervous, but I've never been more sure that this is want I want to do. I've put up with plenty of friends/family/coworkers that think it's really weird that I don't want children. I expect I won't tell my family at all that I'm having this done. If my wife and I get a bug up our rear end 10 years from now and just HAVE TO HAVE a kid (unlikely) we'll adopt for sure.

Darth Freddy
Feb 6, 2007

An Emperor's slightest dislike is transmitted to those who serve him, and there it is amplified into rage.
Wait I always heard that the reversible thing was well actually reversible? I was thinking about this, just to save having kids till I'm making more money.

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Sexgun Rasputin
May 5, 2013

by Ralp

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Reversal is orders of magnitude more expensive and painful and unreliable. You don't get a vasectomy if you plan on reversing it. Wrap your dick.

- Paraphrasing my urologist who specializes in vasectomy reversals and writes the training materials for other urologists regarding reversal.

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