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Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!



just had my best run of hades yet. made it to elysium for only the 2nd time and got all the way to theseus. killed the minotaur and got him down pretty far but got worn down by all the god aoes and his constant blocking. then i got a new first boss who killed me real good.

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megane
Jun 20, 2008




Congrats! Youíre quite close to a win if youíre getting there.

Theseus and the Mino are the perfect boss for Elysium - way too much loving HP, and primarily dangerous because thereís so much poo poo going on at once and a bunch of it is poorly communicated. (For instance, the god attacks mark a location, but give no indication of the time, so you canít tell when you need to be out of them unless youíve been paying attention to them since they spawned and already know how long the delay is.)

e: For more useful advice, you can consistently damage Theseus by staying away from him to bait out his spear throw. After it, he almost always turns and walks away from you for a bit, letting you mash him without worrying about the shield.

megane fucked around with this message at 07:25 on Oct 12, 2020

Angry Diplomat
Nov 6, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging

I got Hades like a day and a half ago and I just beat it

I did this by using the shield and stacking as many Zeus and Poseidon boons as I could. Eventually I got their respective legendary boons and also their combo boon. I was constantly knocking enemies around twice per hit and hitting them with lightning, and also hitting them with lightning again whenever I knocked them back (twice per hit), and sometimes the lightning struck twice, and every time it struck I shot electrical bolts everywhere. I spent most of my time hiding behind my shield and zooming around like a demonic bulldozer while the entire screen turned into a clusterfuck of lightning.

packetmantis
Feb 26, 2013

oh ar


I got Hades when it came out on Epic and struggled mightily for a while, and so many people beating it instantly has scared me off trying any more.

megane
Jun 20, 2008




Itís much easier once you fill out the Mirror, one of the design decisions with which I donít really agree. Particularly with regards to your durability - you go from 50 hp and no healing to 100 hp... plus up to four charges of death defiance which you can refill, not to mention 3 hp of healing every room. Itís pretty absurd.

Angry Diplomat
Nov 6, 2009

Winner of the TSR Memorial Award for Excellence In Grogging

Also, an early win is almost always because of a particularly broken build coming together. I clowned Hades once - once - and he has been absolutely mopping the loving floor with me ever since

IronicDongz
Aug 18, 2013

there he goes

after I got the HP up and a couple revives I won with every weapon in a row lol

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013



packetmantis posted:

I got Hades when it came out on Epic and struggled mightily for a while, and so many people beating it instantly has scared me off trying any more.

Some people are just really good at this type of game. I got my first win in about 30 runs. Another friend of mine is pushing 50 and is still 50/50 on biting it to either Styx itself or the final boss. I also don't think there's anything wrong with turning on God Mode if someone needs a push. Turn it off when you feel more practiced!

Magitek
Feb 20, 2008


Never underestimate the value of experience. Getting lots of face time with bosses lets you learn and eventually internalize their moveset and the timings. When the game was first released in early access I died almost a dozen times to Meg and nearly as many times to the Hydra. Now itís rare for me to get hit by them at all.

Another thing that experience teaches you is your preferred playstyle. While RNG is a significant factor, Hades actually gives you a lot of means to deliberately customize your build. Choosing a weapon/aspect at the start of the run, using keepsakes to force specific gods, using reroll tokens to get specific boons ó itís actually very rare to get a build youíre totally uncomfortable with. But the specifics of what that actually means are pretty subjective.

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017




https://twitter.com/HardDriveMag/st...725652968669185

Hempuli
Nov 15, 2011



Aagh, sorry for the shameless plug but Noita will be coming out of EA later today, at 10 AM PT (~7 PM UTC). I've spent over 7 years on this so it's great to see this day! Also we've been super hard at work on new stuff, so that's nice as well!
Steam page here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/881100/
(Sorry!! But I think people here have been into Noita so I assumed it'd be OK to post about this!)

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

Hubris

Fun Shoe

Goon game launches are so rare that I for one have no issue with y'all advertising in appropriate threads, and Noita is very much a roguelike.

Johnny Truant
Jul 22, 2008






Hempuli posted:

Aagh, sorry for the shameless plug but Noita will be coming out of EA later today, at 10 AM PT (~7 PM UTC). I've spent over 7 years on this so it's great to see this day! Also we've been super hard at work on new stuff, so that's nice as well!
Steam page here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/881100/
(Sorry!! But I think people here have been into Noita so I assumed it'd be OK to post about this!)

gently caress yes. Noita is loving amazing and this reminds me I need to hop back into it! Probably 100 runs and I still have never beaten it, lol

SettingSun
Aug 10, 2013



Noita is good. Cheers to a successful release!

SKULL.GIF
Jan 20, 2017




Hempuli posted:

Aagh, sorry for the shameless plug but Noita will be coming out of EA later today, at 10 AM PT (~7 PM UTC). I've spent over 7 years on this so it's great to see this day! Also we've been super hard at work on new stuff, so that's nice as well!
Steam page here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/881100/
(Sorry!! But I think people here have been into Noita so I assumed it'd be OK to post about this!)

Oh you're the Baba Is You dev? You should contact Steam support and figure out a way to get that game listed under Nolla Games as well on that platform, you're missing on a cross-promotion opportunity. I wouldn't have known if not for that mention in one of your trailers.

Congrats on releasing another game!

Jeza
Feb 13, 2011

The cries of the dead are terrible indeed; you should try not to hear them.


It's literally fantastic that so many pre-eminent roguelike devs are on SA and in this thread. I can't imagine anybody has a real issue with plugging their passion projects here. The self-promotion rules are pretty old-timey, more like a rule to prevent shills regging accounts, back when this place was somewhere that would have been a realistic place to do that.

Congrats! Haven't picked it up yet, but I've heard very good things from people who have.

Hempuli
Nov 15, 2011



SKULL.GIF posted:

Oh you're the Baba Is You dev? You should contact Steam support and figure out a way to get that game listed under Nolla Games as well on that platform, you're missing on a cross-promotion opportunity. I wouldn't have known if not for that mention in one of your trailers.

Congrats on releasing another game!

Baba Is You was actually not published under Nolla Games so it wouldn't make sense to list them like that (I think? Not sure how Steam works here!) Baba & Noita are both in the Nolla Games Bundle, though, which contains Noita + games made by the devteam members.

MMF Freeway
Sep 15, 2010

Later!


Hell yeah Noita owns and already felt fairly complete a year ago. I've been loosely following the EA updates and I like a lot of the changes made. I think getting workshop support out asap was really smart since the game is a wonderful sandbox and ripe for modding.

A Tasteful Nude
Jun 3, 2013

A cool anime hagrid pic (imagine nude pls)

Hempuli posted:

Aagh, sorry for the shameless plug but Noita will be coming out of EA later today, at 10 AM PT (~7 PM UTC). I've spent over 7 years on this so it's great to see this day! Also we've been super hard at work on new stuff, so that's nice as well!
Steam page here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/881100/
(Sorry!! But I think people here have been into Noita so I assumed it'd be OK to post about this!)

Bought this game the other day just because I thought the pixel physics looked neat in the steam store, and I've been having a ton of fun with just the early access build. You can drown burning enemies in flaming magic whisky.

Ciaphas
Nov 20, 2005

> BEWARE, COWARD




Hempuli posted:

Aagh, sorry for the shameless plug but Noita will be coming out of EA later today, at 10 AM PT (~7 PM UTC). I've spent over 7 years on this so it's great to see this day! Also we've been super hard at work on new stuff, so that's nice as well!
Steam page here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/881100/
(Sorry!! But I think people here have been into Noita so I assumed it'd be OK to post about this!)

IMO the people who did ESA and friggin Baba Is You get a free pass on plugs

Harminoff
Oct 24, 2005


Anyone check out the demo for Ring of pain? https://store.steampowered.com/app/998740/Ring_of_Pain/ It's a Card Crawler Roguelike (not deckbuilder) and plays really fast. I'm really enjoying it. Has pretty nice art as well.

Unormal
Nov 16, 2004

Mod sass? This evening?! But the cakes aren't ready! THE CAKES!

Fun Shoe

Hempuli posted:

Aagh, sorry for the shameless plug but Noita will be coming out of EA later today, at 10 AM PT (~7 PM UTC). I've spent over 7 years on this so it's great to see this day! Also we've been super hard at work on new stuff, so that's nice as well!
Steam page here: https://store.steampowered.com/app/881100/
(Sorry!! But I think people here have been into Noita so I assumed it'd be OK to post about this!)

Hell yeah, grats, amazing work!!

Patware
Jan 3, 2005



i'm broke as poo poo, what's some of the current hotness in free roguelikes? either roguebasin's release list isn't all that comprehensive these days or things are a little thin on the ground

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014


Patware posted:

i'm broke as poo poo, what's some of the current hotness in free roguelikes? either roguebasin's release list isn't all that comprehensive these days or things are a little thin on the ground

ADOM is still available in a free text-only version without the later added content.

perc2
May 16, 2020



Apologies but we can do better for "hot" than an ancient version of ADOM

Try:

Demon, a monster collecting roguelike with Shin Megami Tensei vibes: http://demon.ferretdev.org/

Shadow Of The Wyrm has got some decent meat and bones on it now: http://www.shadowofthewyrm.org/

FrogComPosband is the latest hotness in disgustingly ridiculous *band variants: https://github.com/sulkasormi/frogcomposband/releases

If you want the same insanely overdeveloped thing but in a Nethack flavour, try Slash'EM Extended: https://nethackwiki.com/wiki/Slash%27EM_Extended

I think TGGW doesn't get enough love, mainly because it's like the spiritual successor to Incursion: http://www.thegroundgivesway.com/

Infra Arcana has Lovecraft vibes to the max: https://sites.google.com/site/infraarcana/home

You've probably heard of CDDA, but just in case; it's really fleshed out now and has a big community: https://cataclysmdda.org/

Finally Sil-Q, which although it's a *band variant, plays absolutely nothing like a *band and is an actively developed continuation of the legendary Sil: https://github.com/sil-quirk/sil-q/releases

perc2 fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Oct 16, 2020

Jack Trades
Nov 30, 2010



Does the amount of fetish related items keeps multiplying still in CDDA?

Patware
Jan 3, 2005



perc2 posted:


I think TGGW doesn't get enough love, mainly because it's like the spiritual successor to Incursion: http://www.thegroundgivesway.com/


oh poo poo

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad


The Great Twist

I really like TGGW, inventory you find being the entirety of your build forces you to try different stuff each run and there's a nice balance between resting to get energy back and having enough food and health.

perc2
May 16, 2020



A Strange Aeon posted:

I really like TGGW, inventory you find being the entirety of your build forces you to try different stuff each run and there's a nice balance between resting to get energy back and having enough food and health.

Yeah, I may have been a bit loose with "spiritual successor to Incursion", it's more the aesthetics. But this game does something that so many roguelikes don't, by actually making each run exciting exactly because you have no idea what you're going to get. I often wonder with games like Anbgand whether there's actually any point to the random generation when you generally end up with the same ascension kit, having killed most of the same uniques, in the same-looking 100 floors.

perc2 fucked around with this message at 13:54 on Oct 16, 2020

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad


The Great Twist

It's also very generous with giving you exact information about enemies you encounter, which is great.

bees x1000
Jun 11, 2020

Love and Anger


TGGW needs a mobile port.

untzthatshit
Oct 26, 2007

Snit Snitford



Harminoff posted:

Anyone check out the demo for Ring of pain? https://store.steampowered.com/app/998740/Ring_of_Pain/ It's a Card Crawler Roguelike (not deckbuilder) and plays really fast. I'm really enjoying it. Has pretty nice art as well.



I gave this demo a shot, I think it's a little too simple for a $20 game. You basically have a circle of cards that swing towards you two at a time and you click on one...And that's it. Maybe it's an item you equip or maybe it's a monster you do damage too or whatever, but that's as complicated as a decision point as it gets. If you like card based roguelites I dunno why you wouldn't pick Slay the Spire or Monster Train for $25 instead and if you just want the roguelike dungeoncrawl thing than Hades or Darkest Dungeon are also $25 and waaaay deeper. Ring of Pain seems like the cardbased roguelike equivalent of a $2.99 idle clicker.

I'll concede that the art is very nice!

Fellatio del Toro
Mar 21, 2009




Grimey Drawer

anyone tried this yet?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZJ26LYzlik

ExiledTinkerer
Nov 4, 2009


TGGW has strong semi-successor vibes to Frozen Depths and Forays into Norrendrin(the former likely actually Done Done in a rare feat, the latter more in that What Dreams May Yet Come state of holding out hope for Even More Updates)---so definitely try those as well.

Awesome!
Oct 17, 2008

Ready for adventure!



Harminoff posted:

Anyone check out the demo for Ring of pain? https://store.steampowered.com/app/998740/Ring_of_Pain/ It's a Card Crawler Roguelike (not deckbuilder) and plays really fast. I'm really enjoying it. Has pretty nice art as well.



the demo did absolutely nothing for me. i thought it was ugly and the gameplay wasnt interesting at all.


this guy is playing it all day today if you want to watch a stream. https://www.twitch.tv/esty8nine

i added it to my wishlist after he played the demo awhile ago. it looks cool but i havent tried it myself yet.

Awesome! fucked around with this message at 16:59 on Oct 16, 2020

perc2
May 16, 2020




I would like to, but apparently there's no save on quit and it's content-sparse...

MPLS to NOLA
Aug 14, 2010

i gotta little trigger
twitchin in my brain
and when that doesn't start
there's murder in my heart

Harminoff posted:

Anyone check out the demo for Ring of pain? https://store.steampowered.com/app/998740/Ring_of_Pain/ It's a Card Crawler Roguelike (not deckbuilder) and plays really fast. I'm really enjoying it. Has pretty nice art as well.



I got it for switch and it's kind of cool. It's turn-based but it's got the same pacing and lethality as nuclear throne and it's fun cruising through 2-15 minute runs trying to figure out how to turn the lack of balance to your advantage. Not even in the same league as Spire or Hades, no idea why it costs as much as it does.

Gay Rat Wedding
Sep 14, 2011


Taco Defender

quote:

Crown trick is a turn based roguelite dungeon crawler where all movements (enemy and player) happen on turns. When the play moves, the enemies will then after all move as well.

quote:

The gameplay is turn-based strategy where after every action you make (asides from blink), the enemies take an action as well.

quote:

A great game that highly reminds me of modern Dungeons of Dredmor, this is what you get when you design a roguelike around the turn-based strategy that game also had

Arzaac
Jan 2, 2020


Dungeons of Dredmor, known progenitor of turn based rpgs

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tote up a bags
Jun 8, 2006

die stoats die



Don't talk down Dredmor. Before it every roguelike was action, like Spleunky. Dredmor was the first game that ever had turns and real tactical thinking.

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