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Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax


:siren::siren::siren:Get your metagame and site discussion on over here in Mr Scumbag's sister threadhttp://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3564663 Use this thread to freak out over the crazy poo poo you are currently witnessing:siren::siren::siren:

:siren::siren::siren: Place bets from your mobile device!! https://www.saltybets.com/mobile :siren::siren::siren:

Charkie posted:

Alright! New strategy:



https://www.saltybet.com



What is Saltybet.com?
Saltybet.com is a hybrid twitch.tv stream and fake money betting game. Originally established as a way to bet upon fighting game tournaments for funsies, the site has expanded to include a 24/7 stream of Mugen CPU vs. CPU random battles to ensure the salt never stops flowing. Contestants are shown pre-match and a betting window is opened, you then place a bet on your pick and before the match starts all bets are locked in. Payout odds are not preset based upon characters in the match but depend upon the bets placed by players, in other words, if everyone backs Rare Akuma and he wins, the payouts are tiny, however, if you have chosen an underdog that somehow pulls out a win all the salt is yours!

Due to it's hybrid nature it is recommended to have two accounts set up, one on saltybet itself to allow you to play along and a separate account with twitch.tv so you can join the discussion and get hype in the chat.

What happens when I lose all my fake money? What are the salt mines? What is the Illuminati?
As a new player you will never drop below ten salty bux, this allows to you to climb your way back to the top of the pile through grit, determination and betting acumen. Being put into this situation is known as the salt mines, with such tiny amounts left to bet with it will be a long, hard, and painful journey back to the land of the living. There is an account based leveling system, the more often you bet, your level will rise, with higher levels your minimum cash will raise making it easier to get out of the mines.

The Illuminati is a way to show support for the site and keep yourself from ending up in the salt mines. All Illuminati have a minimum cash amount of $666, in addition to having an edge over stingier players you will also gain perks such as personal bet histories, stats on past match-ups and events and character stats, a fancy gold name and more features promised such as a private forums. All this for the low price of $3.99 a month, $8.99 for 3 months or $30.00 for a year. NOTE: This is all done by hand so if you pay for Illuminati and it doesn't show, it means no one is online to auth, you most likely did not get ripped off.

What is MUGEN? Where do I get my own copy of Rare Akuma? How does MUGEN work?
I have no idea. This is a thread about betting on robots.

This seems awfully imbalanced, why don't they curate the characters better?
I don't think you get saltybet.com, why do you hate fun?

What happens when we've seen all the characters and it becomes too predictable?
It's mugen, my limited understanding of it leads me to believe that the character pool is essentially limitless. Even if you see 3 Rolls or 3 Clouds back to back there is no guarantee it wasn't 3 separate versions of that particular character.

Why is every other fight involving some Brazilian DBZ character?
Why aren't you betting on DBZ? Didn't you see the thread title? ALWAYS BET ON DBZ!

What is a clone? What causes a clone?
A clone is a character imported from another version mugen causing some sort of glitch. Invest heavily in clones, they are even better than DBZ.

Ok, now what?
Have fun guys, share stories of absurd matches, talk strategy, live blog your experience, just have fun. I'd rather not see a ton of meta-gaming, part of the fun is the absurd randomness, please keep your google doc spreadsheet of god tier and poo poo tier characters to yourself, don't ruin it by going super sperg.

Tools, scripts and things to improve your salty betting.
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3563670&pagenumber=343#post418349711

100 links to Daraude - Sandstorm (the soundtrack)
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3563670&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=341#post418348765

Misc. Errata

FutureFriend posted:

Hey Guys, I made a goon steam group for this so y'all can hang out in a steam chat, if ya want to: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/saltybetsa

beanbrew posted:

I just made #saltybet on synirc if anyone else wants to hang out in there.



Protip: Is chat stuck in a loop of constant loading? Try going to twitch.tv proper, log out, log back in. Return to saltybet. SHOULD fix that issue.

Protip 2: Cookie Duck is my favorite ever and anyone that bets against Cookie Duck is shameful.






ALWAYS BET ON GIANT DUCK

Mr Scumbag posted:

Salty has confirmed there's a mobile app in the works!

psychofishhead posted:



please put this in the op

Random Stranger posted:

Did someone say upset?



I can taste your salty tears. They taste like victory.


King Cohort posted:

Shoryuken did an interview with Salty himself.

quote:

PM: Got any tips on betting? Iím stuck in the Salt Mines.

S: Always bet on DBZ.

:allears:

Dr. Lariat fucked around with this message at 12:17 on Aug 20, 2013

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Sendo
Jul 26, 2011



Confirming Uppercut is the best character.

Pengry
Aug 23, 2011


Or Ronald. If Ronald McDonald comes on screen go all in because the match can't be boring.

Jefferoo
Jun 23, 2008

by Lowtax


Saltybet is the most cyberpunk loving thing and I can't stop watching it.

Personal highlight for me was polygonal SS14 Goku versus Ryu, Goku takes an early upset by getting in damage and flying to the top of the screen where Ryu can't reach him, only to then proceed to throw the next three matches by taking 2-3 hits and hiding at the top of the screen again with lower health.

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004






GIFS GIFS GIFS GIFS GIFS - now linked for bandwidth/memory usage concerns also here's a :nws: tag for SALR users (they're all work safe)



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Thanks to the GAF thread for most of these GIFs

Rule 1 - Always listen to chat
Rule 2 - Never listen to chat
Rule 3 - Always bet on DBZ

Best match in the history of Salty Bet
Thanos vs Ronald: http://www.twitch.tv/saltybet/c/2691306

Gyoru fucked around with this message at 18:05 on Aug 11, 2013

Randallteal
May 7, 2006

The tears of time


Sprites from non-fighting games > anime recolors > DBZs >>>>>>>> characters ripped from actual fighting games

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...


Gary’s Answer

Just lost $10,000 betting against DBZ, don't be like me.

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!



It's simple. These rules will make you infinite money.


Rule 1 - ALWAYS BET ON MEXICAN DBZ

Rule 2 - NEVER BET ON DBZ

Rule 3 - Always bet on Marvel

Rule 4 - Never bet on JoJo

Rule 5 - ALWAYS GO ALL IN WHEN YOU FEEL LUCKY


Armored Gohan and Raddish SSJ4 always pay out.

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax


Made a new screencap that's maybe(?) better than the old one as suggested elsewhere. I'll keep my eyes open but if anyone sees something cooler, post it here and I'll update.

long-ass nips Diane
Dec 13, 2010

Breathe.



NEVER bet on Jojo's.

FZeroRacer
Apr 8, 2009


Randallteal posted:

Sprites from non-fighting games > anime recolors > DBZs >>>>>>>> characters ripped from actual fighting games

Unless the fighting game in question is King of Fighters. Then always go all in.

The General
Mar 4, 2007

So gentlemen, we meet again.




Well this looks like a lot of fun, but I can't log in to twitch.tv to chat. What the gently caress.

Dezinus
Jun 4, 2006

How unsightly.


The SaltyBet drinking game:
1: Every match take a drink
2: If a character is thrown off screen or match bugs out in some way, chug.
3: Drink

If you lose an all-in for/against a DBZ character, go to bed.

Sendo
Jul 26, 2011



NEVER BET ON WINDOWS ME

Oh god why did I do that.

Dr. Witherbone
Nov 1, 2010

CHEESE LOOKS ON IN
DESPAIR BUT ALSO WITH
AN ERECTION


Another helpful tip: the dumber looking the MS PAINT sprite is, the better it is.

Pengry
Aug 23, 2011


That reminds me, if a character clones when it moves, NEVER bet on it.

↓ Listen to him.

Pengry fucked around with this message at 08:59 on Aug 6, 2013

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004




Rule 4 - Never bet on clones

Clones are exactly what they sound like - a duplicate dummy version of the character. Having a clone implies that the character has NO custom AI so it uses the default lovely AI. You can usually spot clone characters on the betting screen because you can see their dummy's sprite behind them during an idle animation.

Gyoru fucked around with this message at 09:10 on Aug 6, 2013

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax


I hate getting chumped to the occasional good DBZ. drat you warmachine!

Ojjeorago
Sep 21, 2008

I had a dream, too. It wasn't pleasant, though ... I dreamt I was a moron...


Gary’s Answer

Be careful with different versions of the same character too. Ghetto Warmachine and Fake Warmachine are great, War Machine has insane AI that sometimes wins, but Warmachine is dog poo poo.

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004




Rule 5 - If a character starts the match by speaking Spanish or Portuguese, odds might be in your favor depending on the matchup! :thumbsup:

Sendo
Jul 26, 2011



Whizbang posted:

Be careful with different versions of the same character too. Ghetto Warmachine and Fake Warmachine are great, War Machine has insane AI that sometimes wins, but Warmachine is dog poo poo.

Fake Warmachine totally just hosed me over big time.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!


Speaking of fake versions, are some characters named exactly the same? Or is that at least unique for each version?

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004




VDay posted:

Speaking of fake versions, are some characters named exactly the same? Or is that at least unique for each version?
Some are named exactly the same so the only way to differentiate between them is remembering their sprites. DBZ characters are very prone to this.

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!



Gyoru posted:

Rule 5 - If a character starts the match by speaking Spanish or Portuguese, odds might be in your favor depending on the matchup! :thumbsup:

IT'S RULE 1 FOR A REASON!

randombattle posted:

Rule 1 - ALWAYS BET ON MEXICAN DBZ

Mexican Radish SSJ4 will never let you down.



Also most characters have multiple color pallets which are also selected from. Mugen characters can also have special rules and ai sets for pallets as well but I dunno if salty uses any of those characters.

Randallteal
May 7, 2006

The tears of time


Holy poo poo, all of the boring match-ups are worth it for fights like this Nemesis/Hisui one. Nemesis looks so frustrated!

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


Triple timer scam. That's new.

Mayor Defacto
Apr 21, 2010



For the love of god Nemesis, throw a goddamn punch

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!


Gyoru posted:

Some are named exactly the same so the only way to differentiate between them is remembering their sprites. DBZ characters are very prone to this.

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.



Also, it's a pretty unique feeling of shame to "accidentally" bet a lot on a bad version of a character and then have it displayed to the world that you and a couple of other idiots just wasted a bunch of fake bucks and are on the wrong end of 1:100 odds.


e: Nemesis actually almost won a match earlier, because he somehow managed to actually lang 2-3 hits per round which all did like 25% damage.

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax


At least we know who to pick in a jumping contest.

Gyoru
Jul 13, 2004




Mayor Defacto posted:

For the love of god Nemesis, throw a goddamn punch

AI Tier List:
- Ronald Tier
- Broken Tier
- High Tier
- Mid Tier
- Low Tier
- Clone Tier
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- Nemesis Tier

randombattle
Oct 16, 2008

This hand of mine shines and roars! It's bright cry tells me to grasp victory!



You forgot the Marvel tier(always bet) and JoJo tier(never bet).

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!


:toot: Won my first underdog bet, whoever Donovan is.

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax


Tae posted:

:toot: Won my first underdog bet, whoever Donovan is.

Darkstalkers/Vampire Savior, got a sweet 1325 offa that.

e: Go tits, always bet bouncy tits.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!


I won $11,000 earlier today off of a random upset, and I'm completely ashamed of how excited/happy I was after it happened.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.



Anything that's a weird MSpaint character edit, or just a totally terrible MSpaint character, will always be so imbalanced that they win. It's the best. Fat Albert is my favorite.

And there's also Sad Claps. Always bet on Sad Claps. You'll know him when you see him. Why is he so sad? We may never know.

The site isn't always this weird Dream Cast Casino, either- this whole system is applied to legit fighting game tournaments, such as EVO, and is a lot of fun then too.

FZeroRacer
Apr 8, 2009


Sad Claps is by far the most amazing character I've seen so far.

Just everything about him is fantastic. And sad. I want to see him again.

Token Cracker
Dec 22, 2004


There must be about 7 different war machines in this thing.

Dr. Lariat
Jul 1, 2004

by Lowtax


hosed by 2 war machines in less than an hour.

Mayor Defacto
Apr 21, 2010



Yeah that's great Zero, keep running into that punch

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Sendo
Jul 26, 2011



God drat Mr Satan, so close.

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