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Dark_Tzitzimine
Oct 9, 2012

by R. Guyovich

A good poster posted:

Salty should kick that up to at least 5%. The crazy bullshit fights are part of the fun.

Yeah, those characters were incredibly boring on normal match or Salty Shakers because was always a stomp, with bullshit characters facing off the chances of magic happening is very high.

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ShineDog
May 21, 2007
It is inevitable!
Can people from one tier fight people from another? I always love seeing someone getting ridiculously oneshotted

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
1. New tier stuff sounds good, I don't care about X-tier but I agree it should probably be more like 5%

2. Oh Sheeit it's X by Thundercat is a good SB song

The Kins
Oct 2, 2004

ShineDog posted:

Can people from one tier fight people from another? I always love seeing someone getting ridiculously oneshotted
Apparently after the three-win/loss streak there's a "promotion/demotion match" against someone from the tier they're heading towards.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
That's retarded and it means the tiers will move glacially, but at least they'll be fairly accurate (for better or worse). I would've just let it run at 3 wins = promotion for a month or so.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Intel&Sebastian posted:

2. Oh Sheeit it's X by Thundercat is a good SB song

One of my submissions! Thundercat is one of my favorite new artists these days. He's part of Flying Lotus's collective, but he's got two killer solo LPs out.

Tae
Oct 24, 2010

Hello? Can you hear me? ...Perhaps if I shout? AAAAAAAAAH!
Whoa, what happened to suddenly spike to 30k viewers? I don't think peak Saltybet before had that high.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Tae posted:

Whoa, what happened to suddenly spike to 30k viewers? I don't think peak Saltybet before had that high.
It was on the front page of twitch or reddit or something.

Tonfa
Apr 8, 2008

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

I was going to quit due to the string of bad design decisions by Salty lately, but I have to see how this sudden influx of people reacts to the madness.


The Kins posted:

New update:

  • Re-tiering! Characters can climb up and down tiers by winning or losing three fights in a row.
  • X Tier! This is where all the OP characters like Rare Akuma sit. Apparently these fights have a 1% chance of happening, so if you see one, buckle up.

For some unfathomable reason X tier is not included in automatic re-tiering. So depending on where a borderline S/X guy went on the arbitrary list someone made they either stomp S tier or appear maybe 1/10 as often AND die in a second without getting to do anything half the time in X and that's not even getting into blatant mistiering.

Some French Guy
Aug 30, 2003

Tae posted:

Whoa, what happened to suddenly spike to 30k viewers? I don't think peak Saltybet before had that high.
Yeah I came here to ask exactly that. So are the bots we got on irc still off or did that ever get fixed?
Edit: also why is there only like 200 people betting ?

Some French Guy fucked around with this message at 14:11 on Feb 28, 2014

Mason Dixon
Jul 28, 2001

Crimson Butterfly

Salty just started trying a new schedule, kinda strange. Like, there was just a randomly-picked S-tier tournament, now there's going to be some exhibitions, and after that I think regular matches, then repeat this cycle.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

Wait, what? Has he posted anywhere what this schedule is going to be?

Mason Dixon
Jul 28, 2001

Crimson Butterfly

I guess the closest thing to an official announcement is it being noted in that weekly news thing one of the mods on SB does: http://imgur.com/a/8gUIb.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
That's interesting. Does the bracket display anywhere? I don't think I've caught one yet.

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Intel&Sebastian posted:

That's interesting. Does the bracket display anywhere? I don't think I've caught one yet.

The bracket displays under Shaker, then Bracket. You don't have to be Illuminati to see it.

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I
I'm glad to see tournaments back, though I really did prefer the pre-constructed ones, if only because they were (sometimes) a way to escape the endless sea of copy-paste loli laser wizards.

LvK
Feb 27, 2006

FIVE STARS!!

Anonymous Robot posted:

I'm glad to see tournaments back, though I really did prefer the pre-constructed ones, if only because they were (sometimes) a way to escape the endless sea of copy-paste loli laser wizards.

also I suggested the grappler tournament and Salty did it, and it was glorious, so I'll definitely miss those.

Actually I mostly stopped going when the real tournaments stopped :(

Anonymous Robot
Jun 1, 2007

Lost his leg in Robo War I

LvK posted:

also I suggested the grappler tournament and Salty did it, and it was glorious, so I'll definitely miss those.

Actually I mostly stopped going when the real tournaments stopped :(

Yeah, I visit the site a lot less since they killed proper tourneys.

Grapplermania was incredible- I bet 70,000 bucks on the final match, believing in Hollywood Hogan over the anime swimsuit girl in a big blob, and busted back to the mines. No regrets.

LvK
Feb 27, 2006

FIVE STARS!!

Anonymous Robot posted:

Yeah, I visit the site a lot less since they killed proper tourneys.

Grapplermania was incredible- I bet 70,000 bucks on the final match, believing in Hollywood Hogan over the anime swimsuit girl in a big blob, and busted back to the mines. No regrets.

Same, brother.

Same.

Sea Lily
Aug 5, 2007

Everything changes, Pit.
Even gods.

When there were actual themed tourneys or ones made with some thought put into it, it was a fun weekly thing to get in on, but with everything being automated now it's just weird random stuff- which is cool for the stream most of the time, but without that weekly event to get everyone together and excited about some cool matches it's just kind of pointless to have tournaments at all.

Mingus Dew
Dec 30, 2013

Finally, a good reason to punch a teenager in the face!
I'm cool with the new tournament system, really. That plus the exhibitions clears out the queue a lot faster, too. I hope they're at least all in the same tier, otherwise it just gets dumb.

I still think Salty should at least do one pre-constructed Shaker Classic a week, though.

ThePhenomenalBaby
May 3, 2011
He ain't toppin' the castlevania tourney or the final of the original set in which mori won, but it'd be fun to see again. Its been long enough.

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

See, I dunno. He very well could top the Mori win simply because we have no idea what a new Best Of The Best tourney would produce. And those don't take all THAT much effort, especially with random or mathematical seeding.

Damonic
Jan 17, 2006
I just found this thing of insanity this morning due to this thread, and I love it!

drat you goons!...showing me awesome stuff and poo poo! :love:

goethe gear xx
Sep 17, 2004

faustoo
I recently got back into this, and used Fluid to create a "native" OS X app out of Salty Bet:



It's pretty basic, there's a panel with SaltyBet's mobile UI and another panel pointed at the Twitch stream, which lets me watch it without having Flash installed (I also like having it be a separate window). Now, I have no knowledge of making userscripts, but I managed to hack at the "Important Bits" script a little in an attempt to make the betting UI nicer, but there's obviously great potential for making it look real nice if I only knew how to do it. Does anyone want to try improving on the mobile UI? Premade scripts are also welcome if there's something that's not on userscripts.org

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Anonymous Robot posted:

The thing Salty Bet needs more than anything is to cull about 70% of the identical anime baby girls that spam beams and poo poo.

From like two pages back but yeah, I think this would actually revive my interest in watching more. All the stupid touhou and "waifu" characters are just boring to watch because either they instantly stomp or they lose a fight you already knew they were gonna lose.

Rei_
May 16, 2004

The difference between confinement and rest is a shift in perspective

I still throw on Saltybet fairly often to have background noise while I work, but man every time I look up lately it's a Saltybet Twitch Chat-themed character. They're worse than the anime beamspam characters, just like, poorly made one-shot kill machines every single drat time.

Supercar Gautier
Jun 10, 2006

The problem with the joke characters created specifically for SaltyBet is that none of their creators want them to be beatable. It's a dumb pride thing. Instead of a gag character who can put up a fair fight in a funny way, they're all trying to make The Most Powerful Character (Meme Edition).

So the match is either a stomp, or it's an annoying stalemate that runs through the full timer every round because neither fighter can be damaged.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

Supercar Gautier posted:

The problem with the joke characters created specifically for SaltyBet is that none of their creators want them to be beatable. It's a dumb pride thing. Instead of a gag character who can put up a fair fight in a funny way, they're all trying to make The Most Powerful Character (Meme Edition).

Saltybet got a little too meta for it's own good basically. At least complete potato AI fights can be funny just because of how incompetent they are, but there's nothing fun about watching poo poo like hurrr Twitch Waifu-Chan-San-Kun just lame out fights.

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Yardbomb posted:

Saltybet got a little too meta for it's own good basically. At least complete potato AI fights can be funny just because of how incompetent they are, but there's nothing fun about watching poo poo like hurrr Twitch Waifu-Chan-San-Kun just lame out fights.

I loving hate those twitch chat characters in the first place, the last thing I want is more of them.

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
I honestly don't understand anyone who has a single positive feeling in their body for Twitch Waifu. The only time I got any enjoyment out of it was watching the creator guy cry in chat after getting beat by a regular god and demand a rematch after he re-uploaded a new version. That thing is like an effort elemental, it exists as nothing but and for nothing but. LOVE ME GUYS LOOOOOOOVE MEEEEEEEEE.

Edit: Duane can stay though

ImperialGuard
Jan 10, 2010
Heck, I remember someone programming their X tier bullshit character to check the author data and have the character ditch its hit box or otherwise become unbeatable if the author of the enemy character is by a specific "bad character author"

Am I the only one who wants to make a character and see how the dice land, so to speak?

No clue as to what I'd make, though.

Stevefin
Sep 30, 2013

Intel&Sebastian posted:

I honestly don't understand anyone who has a single positive feeling in their body for Twitch Waifu. The only time I got any enjoyment out of it was watching the creator guy cry in chat after getting beat by a regular god and demand a rematch after he re-uploaded a new version. That thing is like an effort elemental, it exists as nothing but and for nothing but. LOVE ME GUYS LOOOOOOOVE MEEEEEEEEE.

Edit: Duane can stay though

The Twitch guy is a dick though. He demands to be the top human being of the faggots. watching god characters lately have been boring, its a competition to be the top human being

Potato fights are still my favorite for sheer badness

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

ImperialGuard posted:

No clue as to what I'd make, though.

Just make a hand grenade that explodes and kills anything on-screen. :v:

Also eugh, I only just remembered that lovely Twitch Waifu whatever shilled the guy's channel and twitter too I think when it won a round.

Mingus Dew
Dec 30, 2013

Finally, a good reason to punch a teenager in the face!

Stevefin posted:

The Twitch guy is a dick though. He demands to be the top human being of the faggots. watching god characters lately have been boring, its a competition to be the top human being

Potato fights are still my favorite for sheer badness

Oddly enough, ATK doesn't come around anymore. Apparently I heard he got booted from twitch, but I can sadly not verify that.

I'd love to try my hand at making a character, but poo poo looks complicated as hell. I'd probably end up in the lowest tier. :v:

Intel&Sebastian
Oct 20, 2002

colonel...
i'm trying to sneak around
but i'm dummy thicc
and the clap of my ass cheeks
keeps alerting the guards!
Twitch just announced a group chat feature so I hope we have a goons only SB room soon. I'd still like to have the general chat viewable but I'd rather gently caress with ya'll.

Double Punctuation
Dec 30, 2009

Ships were made for sinking;
Whiskey made for drinking;
If we were made of cellophane
We'd all get stinking drunk much faster!

ImperialGuard posted:

Heck, I remember someone programming their X tier bullshit character to check the author data and have the character ditch its hit box or otherwise become unbeatable if the author of the enemy character is by a specific "bad character author"

Doge does that if it detects a GooGoo64 character. To be fair, though, GooGoo64 is the worst non-porn character creator in the MUGEN community by far, and almost all of his characters are poorly stitched together screen shots of lovely D-list monster movies (and Star Wars, for whatever reason) with horrible gimmicks.

Zeether
Aug 26, 2011

dpbjinc posted:

Doge does that if it detects a GooGoo64 character. To be fair, though, GooGoo64 is the worst non-porn character creator in the MUGEN community by far, and almost all of his characters are poorly stitched together screen shots of lovely D-list monster movies (and Star Wars, for whatever reason) with horrible gimmicks.

Ever since I watched The_None (who made Shaq and co created Alter Amiba)'s series of videos on GG64 I could easily tell his characters apart and I don't know if he does this as a joke or he's legitimately passing them off as his masterpieces.

Also, Ant Man or whoever it is that makes the "EEEEEEEE" noises is annoying.

Mingus Dew
Dec 30, 2013

Finally, a good reason to punch a teenager in the face!
While we're talking about Alter Amiba, has anyone tried to do his level 3 super in training mode? Good god, The_None. Good god. :froggonk:

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Tonfa
Apr 8, 2008

I joined the #RXT REVOLUTION.
:boom:
he knows...

Hating Googoo64 is hating fun. Pure embodiments of :wtc: that glitch out in amazing fashion are far more interesting than generic fightyman/girl #375, or loving Doge.

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