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Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
We don't normally talk about stuff we love, but I really love Real Sports on HBO. And Frank DeFord is one of my favorite.

What is the consensus on Real Sports and DeFord?

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Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Technically there are 3 Fox Sports channels in Ohio.

There's Fox Sports Sports Time Ohio (Cleveland)
Fox Sports Ohio (Northern Ohio)
Fox Sports Ohio (Southern Ohio)

The last two mostly share programming except for live sporting events like the Reds.

Sports Time Ohio is a pretty decent channel, since it was independent it has a lot of original programming and HS sports. The other two are absolute garbage except for Reds games. I can't speak for Blue Jackets or Cavs games though because I don't care.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Did Shannon Sharpe truly get fired or is this a cruel April Fools joke?

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

MourningView posted:

Did he do something cool I somehow missed that everyone loves him for now? Because that dude is loving horrible on TV. He is literally bad at talking.

I nearly lost my mind the one day when I mistakenly watched the CBS pregame show and saw that he made his picks by putting on those dumb gloves with the team logo on the palms and flashing the logo at the camera.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Badfinger posted:

I'm not certain that's true anymore. With the combination of fans all over and more ubiquitous internet, the ability to offer yourself to the most people at all times seems like the best way to go.

It definitely is true. But you're not wrong. It's just that advertising hasn't caught up with the new technology yet. Ad time on the actual cable channels are still worth a hell of a lot more money than streaming (and mlb.tv barely even has commercials).

Which is why I can't believe these channels are throwing so much money at these baseball teams when the contract is up.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Badfinger posted:

Cable channels could stream their feed and you'd get all the commercially goodness right there on your not-television. Just because they do not doesn't mean they shouldn't or can't.

I agree, I don't know why they don't do this in the first place for mlb.tv. I'd love to see Cincinnati commercials again. Skyline and Goldstar Chili especially.

Tedd_Not_Ed posted:

It's a chain. Their first restaurant was an old closed Quaker State Station that became available when QS started closing in the Gas Crisis in the 70s.

Gee, you think they'd use some sort of gas station-type decor if that were the case....

Seriously I hate walking into any Quaker Steak but I just can't help it....

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Sportscenter is now what George Michael Sports Machine was 15 years ago. Completely obsolete, but I still sometimes watching for some ungodly reason.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Crazy Ted posted:

Smith already has one foot out the door since he's leaving ESPN radio so suspending him for a week will probably help push the other foot out. Remember that if they fire him it's likely that they'd have to pay him the rest of what he's owed.

That's not typically how contracts work. Any employment contract (especially for a company that hires talking heads on television) would include a morality-based clause. You can't just say awful poo poo on TV and then hope your employer fires you and get paid anyway.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

MourningView posted:

Well there is like the official team store, and then there is the guy on the corner with them haphazardly stuffed into a duffel bag, screaming at everyone who passes. Coincidentally that guy usually has the better shirts, although it is really hard to find a social situation where it's okay to wear an IOWA loving CITY t-shirt.

Or a "Cardinals Take it in the Pujols" shirt.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

stranger danger posted:

There used to be one American guy with an Italian last name who was pretty good. I think it was two WCs ago where ESPN decided "no English/Scots/Irish" and they had a baseball guy as their #1 (who was of course complete rear end). The guy I'm thinking of was the only good announcer who knew anything, but I've never heard from him since. Maybe the other announcers just made him look good.

Fake edit: I think it was this guy http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JP_Dellacamera

He did the WC this year for ESPN. He's pretty good.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Hey guys, Joe Buck will be calling US Open golf next year. :suicide:

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

TheIncredulousHulk posted:

My favorite Thom Brennamoment ever was last year when he was calling a Rangers/Reds game. IIRC the game was tied with a man on first and the Reds hitter hosed up his first two bunt attempts so the Reds let him swing with two strikes. Dude then hits a dinger but Brennaman spent the whole rest of the game bitching about that guy not being able to get that bunt down.

Thom Brennaman (and his dad) are the most grit hustle announcers ever. What you just described is a regular thing and it doesn't help that the Reds have been terrible at bunting for pretty much forever. Both father and son will bitch about a player not running out a ground ball or not being able to move a runner over until they are blue in the face.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

FuzzySkinner posted:

It'll be Quicken Loans, Fathead, Horseshoe Casino, and (in the future) LRMR Marketing for the Cavs IMO.

Fathead the tacky wall stickers or Fat Head the delicious craft beer? This is important.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

zakharov posted:

"Searching for Bobby Fischer" was not actually about Bobby Fischer. Also, Bobby Fischer was a crazy rear end in a top hat IRL which is sad.

However, there's a good HBO documentary about him called Bobby Fisher Versus the World.

At least I think that's what it's called. If you don't know anything about Bobby Fisher, check it out.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Vertical Lime posted:

Keeping this thread alive to mention the Rose and Sugar Bowls were the most-watched telecasts in cable history:

http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-releases/2015/01/college-football-playoff-semifinals-cables-largest-two-audiences-in-history/

I know I should just get used to it but it just pisses me off that they ever even put them on cable. But then I suppose they couldn't claim ratings records by doing that.

On the other hand, I doubt those numbers include the amount of people that watched on the WatchESPN app, which was enough to straight up break the app for about 2 hours during the Rose Bowl.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Niwrad posted:

I think younger people who grew up with the internet their whole lives don't realize how big SportsCenter was in the 90's. You had to watch it to find out what was going on in sports. Tons of people woke up to the show every morning before school and work.

Yeah, I actually got up early for school to watch Sportscenter. And if you watched a whole episode you actually saw highlights from nearly every game the night before. Last Monday morning I woke up at the hotel I stayed in after the Steelers game and turned on Sportscenter to see highlights of the game. They spent one hour talking about Rex Ryan being fired. Unreal.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

MourningView posted:

I mean watch whatever the heck you want but this is some serious congnitive dissonance.

Haha I totally thought the same thing.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Robnoxious posted:

It's a good burn on Colin because he is one of the reason's ESPN is poo poo these days but DP is one to talk. Between him and his "Danettes" plugging SI covers ad-nauseum and "Wheel of Fish Torture" bits which make for terrible listening radio, DP talks about bad reality television more than sports it seems.

Call him Petros & Money: Morning Edition and the slipper would still fit.

I listen to Dan Patrick all the time and I don't agree with you at all. I occasionally hear them talk about the SI cover and almost never hear anything about the wheel of torture.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
It's a sick burn but I can't get over the fact that Sportscenter anchors probably shouldn't be calling out famous people left and right. For no other reason than they're loving nerds who think they have a platform to be a comedian because Dan Patrick, Rich Eisen, and Stuart Scott were actually doing some fresh and funny things 20 years ago.

I saw the segment where he burned Iggy Azalea and it wasn't funny. It was some segment that belongs on a lovely E! Network TV show that airs past midnight. I'm so happy I never watch Sportscenter, it must be so bad.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
I actually find that article to be terribly written. A bit aimless and all over the place, but the content is gold.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Colin Cowherd and Jim Rome's similarities end at them being sports radio hosts. Their schticks are completely different. Jim Rome finds things to poke fun at in the sports or pop culture world and does so ad naseum. Colin Cowherd is just a troll that says poo poo he knows will get people riled up.

You either love Rome or you hate him. I don't know a single sole that likes Cowherd.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Will any of this result in ESPN returning some major content to ABC? It's absolutely outrageous that the college football playoffs aren't on network TV.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
People over 25 actually go out on NYE?

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Do you pronounce the comma in "The Championships, Wimbledon"?

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Timby posted:

It actually varies on a team-by-team basis. Until 2015, when the Cubs re-negotiated their broadcast deals to align the expiration of the radio and television contracts, Len Kasper and Jim Deshaies were employees of WGN-TV, but effective January of '15 they became employees of the Cubs organization, partially because WGN America elected to cease broadcasting baseball games.

Wasn't that just leftover from the fact that until like 2010 the Cubs were owned by WGN's parent company?

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

FuzzySkinner posted:

Keith Jackson seems like he's in rough shape per what I'm hearing in the Rose Bowl :smith:

I just want to talk about how important he is to CFB.

Unsure of the accuracy, but they show Roone Arledge telling Keith in "MONDAY NIGHT MAYHEM" after giving Frank Gifford the gig as lead announcer that he was going to make him "MR. COLLEGE FOOTBALL. "

Well he was RIGHT.

I mean, dude is 88. All things considered I thought he looked and sounded ok.

It was a flash of nostalgia hearing his weakened voice. Every Rose Bowl I end up doing a Keith Jackson impression with a "whoaaaaa nelly! It's the granddaddy of em allllllll"

He is sorely missed in college football and no one has come anywhere close to replacing him. God bless him.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Listen, Brent has been on his way out for well over a year now. His shift to the SEC Network was a chance to put him out to pasture without too many people watching. But I'm sure he costs more money than he's worth considering how long he's been with them and now that they don't need him anymore.

I doubt they fire him for it but I wouldn't be surprised to see him "retire".

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

DJExile posted:

Absolutely. Gus Johnson had a couple lines after they won the B1G Championship about that being "another step in the healing process" and jesus christ it was so bad.

Chris Fowler brought it up last night. Said something to the effect of he understands the criticism because of the heinous nature of Sandusky's crimes, but no one involved in the program right now was involved in that. Something to that effect. It was about the best he could do to allow him and Herbstreit to continue fawning over the incredible overcoming-the-odds story they continued pushing for PSU.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Great, now we're gonna get talking heads on FS1 saying that basketball isn't being played the way James Naismith intended.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
I'm gonna go against the grain and say gently caress Chris Berman. I never gave a poo poo about NFL Primetime, even during the period of my life when I was a huge NFL fan. He thought he was the face of ESPN when it was actually Dan Patrick, Keith Olbermann, Stuart Scott, and Craig Kilborn that everyone knew and actually cared about. Berman has always been the creepy uncle at ESPN.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
I'm not shocked at all that his HBO show flopped. I remember questioning in this very thread if the general population even knew who he was enough to care about whatever he did next. Several people tried to tell me what a big deal he was. But, despite being a huge sports fan, I've never really read anything he's written or seen him on any shows. My exposure to him has been: a) I watch 30 for 30 (which, while it was his concept, is mostly a collection of other people's creative efforts), b) I read a few articles on Grantland (they weren't his articles, so basically same as 30 for 30), c) I've read a billion news stories ABOUT him.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Pretty sure it was just a Globetrotters warmup with a special hat

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007


MourningView posted:

That isn't what he globetrotter warmup looks like. They don't wear ties in the layup line

I wasn't serious, guys.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

DJExile posted:

Colin Cowherd was surprisingly real, if only for a moment, in reacting to being called out by Dabo Swinney.


He's basically admitting his job is to be a firebrand and to get people reacting to him, regardless of whether or not he's correct in his opinions, which, yeah he's right.

Yeah that's about as close to a glimpse behind the curtain as most people are going to get.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Vertical Lime posted:

i remember when that nfl matchup show was on monday nights as part of the buildup to the monday night game

of course they bury it because it's cerebral

in other news, turns out erin andrews had cancer

https://twitter.com/theMMQB/status/823888189932781570

I don't particularly like or dislike Erin Andrews, but Jesus Christ hasn't this woman been through enough? She already deals with the everyday torture that comes along with being a woman in sports, AND she had to deal with a creepy stalker that videotaped her naked in a hotel room on more than one occasion in two different cities. Now loving cancer.

At least she won $55 million from that lawsuit.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Benne posted:

I wonder if Tiki Barber ever gets jealous that Strahan became the former Giants player with more media success than he had

And not even like "became a talking head on an NFL pregame show and that's it" kind of success. Like true "everyone in America knows who he is" kind of success. Maybe that's an exaggeration, but my wife knows who he is (and loves him) because of Kelly and Michael and she's a pretty good indicator of fame outside of sports.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007

Niwrad posted:

Interesting. I still don't get what the benefit is for these online companies if the games are on network TV.

There are two big benefits. One is that tons of people don't watch things on their TVs exclusively. The other is added value for Amazon Prime. They LOVE adding poo poo to Amazon Prime to increase its perceived value. An NFL logo would do them wonders, even with the NFL not quite being as powerful and valuable a brand as it was a few years ago.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
Deadspin comment about that made me LOL. Basically, that Thames was also in Korea due to his WAR.

Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
At some point you'd think Disney would demand that ESPN shift some live sports back to ABC. With the number of ESPN subscribers dwindling by the minute and ABC's paltry ratings, it seems like a no-brainer. At the very least you'd be able to charge more for ads, putting a tiny dent in the huge amounts they're paying to air those games.

You might say "yeah but then that takes away one of the reason to have ESPN and they'll lose more subscribers" but I doubt that's true. That one article said something like 60% of cable subscribers never watched ESPN so the overall drop in cable subscribers across the board is what has killed ESPN. The diehard ESPN viewer isn't cancelling cable because they can watch the college football national championship is back on ABC instead of ESPN.

Basically I'm just salty still that the national championship is on ESPN and not ABC.

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Mahoning
Feb 3, 2007
And yet, CBS gave up one of their most-watched nights of prime time to air more NFL games. Because it is guaranteed ratings compared to CSI: Tucson or whatever else they'd be airing that night. And those are BAD games that CBS paid MORE for.

ESPN wouldn't have to pay an extra dime to shift a dozen college or NFL games to ABC instead of ESPN. The whole reason they shifted the stuff onto ESPN to begin with was to jack up the carriage fee for ESPN which worked great in the short term but has bitten them in the rear end in the long term.

And no, old people aren't going to cancel cable because ABC moved Dancing with the Stars to another night. That makes zero sense.

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