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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Where the gently caress is my CSN Houston?

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


DOOP posted:

CSN is owned by Comcast, and Comcast owns NBC, so, NBC (Sports).

Let me rephrase my question.

Why can't I watch CSN Houston?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


chunkles posted:

Not sure where to put this since only like 5 SAS posters care but Comcast filed for CSN Houston to go into Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The Astros are claiming they haven't been paid for the last three months and were about to pull out.

That's not good.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


CBS Sports Network's is the best, because I haven't seen it.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


What does this mean for the Hockey Theme?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Fox Sports Live beat SportsCenter for the first time last night.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Something brewing in Houston?

Hell, if it means Time Warner will carry it, I'm for it.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Root Sports Houston Southwest site is up! Kind of.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Dish Network is dropping all Comcast Sports Networks. Yes, all of them.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


CaptainYesterday posted:

Where the gently caress is my CSN Houston?

Let me revise this:

Where the gently caress is my Root Sports Southwest?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


We are a poorer nation for Roundball Rock being unused.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!



With the Big Ten Conference the only big rights available in the near future, Fox did their damnedest to hype up Harbaugh's first game at Michigan. Getting the rights from ESPN would certainly help FS1 with casual viewers, and considering BTN is majority owned by Fox, you can't rule them out.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


This brings up a whole chicken-or-egg situation with FS1: you need people watching the channel to get big-time contracts, and you need big-time contracts to get people watching the channel.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Speaking of BTN2Go, why hasn't Fox folded in BTN to Fox Sports Go and made BTN2Go just the BTN Plus stuff? I'd prefer having fewer apps on my tablet, so they should make this work better.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


But what about Jay & Dan

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


The CBS Sports app has started making the CBS Sports Network streamable only on Optimum so far, so those of you who watch it can now watch it on the go again, only on Optimum so far.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


The Big Ten Conference is shopping around TV rights staring in the 2017-18 season right now. The question is, with budget cuts at ESPN and Fox Sports, will the rights be split (as expected) or will one side overpay?

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


I'm pretty sure Cowheard once said he doesn't like scripted entertainment. Like, any fictional work.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Shape of things to come? Root Sports bug replaced with 'AT&T Sports Networks' bug.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Congrats, Purdue, you're moving on up from the weekly ESPNU game!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


MourningView posted:

ESPNU probably gets more viewers than FS1 much less whatever fox affiliate Purdue gets exiled to

I got curious, so I looked at a random Saturday in 2015 (November 14, to be exact) to compare ESPNU to FS1:

FS1
Utah vs. Arizona - 575k
Kansas State vs. Texas Tech - 414k
Kansas vs. TCU - 398k

ESPNU
Texas vs. West Virginia - 685k
Miami (FL) vs. North Carolina - 367k
Western Carolina vs. Texas A&M - 296k
New Mexico vs. Boise State - 235k

Apart from Texas/West Virginia, each of the ESPNU games had fewer viewers than the least-watched FS1 game. Now, this is just one week, but I'd say that, on average, a game on FS1 gets ~50k more viewers than one on ESPNU does. At worst, this Fox deal is a lateral move for the Big Ten.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Well, I am because Big Ten games on ESPNU and ESPNews will, presumably, be a thing of the past with this Fox deal. Obviously ESPN, ESPN2, and ABC are all still going to be major players in showing Big Ten games - it's just now Fox and FS1 will be showing games as well, and that rises all boats in the conference.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


MourningView posted:

Who gets what isn't clear yet but I kinda doubt Fox paid that much for the rights to broadcast Northwestern and Rutgers games.

What I'm trying to get at is that the less-desirable games will now get higher status by virtue of more channels to put the games on. For example, let's take Rivalry Week. I could imagine this scenario happening in 2017:

ESPN gets Iowa/Nebraska, Penn State/Michigan State, and Indiana/Purdue
Fox Sports gets Ohio State/Michigan, Wisconsin/Minnesota, and Northwestern/Illinois
BTN gets Maryland/Rutgers

Both ESPN and Fox Sports get three games of (rough) equality. Now, instead of showing three games, BTN only shows one game and the other four teams get more exposure on a basic cable network.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


ESPN gave their bid for the rest of the Big Ten rights and, according to SBJ, it was not as high as projected. Cue wild speculation!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


NBC Sports Live Extra and Fox Sports Go have recently overhauled their apps. They're Windows 8-y now, and I don't know if I like it.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Fox Sports turned down Curt Schilling, per Deadspin.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!



They'd better get LeBron James involved in some way just to be extra contradictory.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Sports Emmys were given out. Three guesses as to which channel took the most awards.

Wait, FS1? That can't be right...

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


https://twitter.com/katienolan/stat...src=twsrc%5Etfw

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


SportsNet LA might get a new tenant!

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


That is true. Apart from ESPN's daily talk lineup, the only thing that moves the needle in sports television is, well, live sports. As much as everyone enjoys NBCSN's coverage, the channel has had many, many failures in non-live sports shows. Remember The 'Lights? The Crossover? The T.Ocho Show? It's hard to blame FS1 for trying to reinvent the wheel (how they try to reinvent the wheel can be blamed), but changing a force of habit can only change when it's forced on the viewer.

This is the reason why Khaki Cam happened - Fox Sports said to the Big Ten Conference "We will do anything for your TV rights", because Fox Sports knew that those were the only major rights up for grabs anytime soon. If the Big Ten had said "Nah, we're good with ESPN", then FS1 would be doomed to irrelevance for who knows how long. (Of course, the Big Ten is now playing hard-to-get with ESPN, so this whole issue might never have been in the cards.)

A good comparison to what FS1 is going through would be what's going on in Canada. Despite losing national broadcast rights to the NHL, TSN still beats SportsNet in the ratings. Why? Because TSN has the brand. It's not that Canadians stopped watching hockey; TSN is just more ingrained with the average viewer.

There is no guarantee that FS1 will ever compete with ESPN. If the day does come when that happens, it will be because Fox Sports built their TV rights packages to be comparable, because that's the only thing that matters in the long run.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


https://twitter.com/AutulloAAS/stat...076178474590208

ESPN is 5 years into a 20-year contract with UT.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Just remember: the University of Texas gets paid $15 million per year no matter what, so the Longhorns are laughing to the bank on this one.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


soggybagel posted:

Thats what happens when they don't have it on their network.

That reminds me of when the Kings beat the Rangers in Game 1 of the 2014 Stanley Cup Final on a breakaway goal in OT. SportsCenter put it in their Top 10....at number 4, behind some average slam dunks.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Yahoo! Sports Radio is being re-branded as SB Nation Radio starting August 1st, so make changes as needed.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Bill Simmons is going to do a 'what I'd do if I was president' bit sometime this year. Source: basic reasoning.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Benne posted:

Maybe if you live in Europe. Here in America ESPN is still trying to pretend the International Champions Cup is a thing people should care about.

This is, of course, because:

-NBC holds the rights to the Premier League
-Fox holds the rights to the Bundasliga, UEFA club tournaments, and the World Cup
-beIN Sports holds the rights to Serie A, La Liga, and most other internationally important leagues

ESPN has Euro, half of MLS, some of USM/WNT, and your cash-grab tournaments. If it wasn't for those, ESPN wouldn't have ANY soccer.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


General Dog posted:

At least Daily Fantasy is dead now, or at least has a greatly diminished advertising budget.

Football season hasn't started yet.

Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


The Pac-12 Network is in that few homes? I get the multiplex of that channel, and I live in Texas. Then again, I get Time Warner Cable SportsNet and SportsNet LA for some reason.

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Edward Mass
Sep 14, 2011

The Timeless Child is THE DOCTOR? Oh, for God's sake!


Niwrad posted:

I can't remember who said it as a guest on a podcast (might have been James Andrew Miller on Simmons), but they said that FS1 shouldn't be aiming to be the next ESPN, they should be aiming to be the next ESPN2.

Well, they just made their own First Take, so they might be on that path!

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