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alcharagia posted:Gerald was actually a central character in Sonic Battle, and that quote in the intro might be a direct quotation from Battle (but don't quote me on that.) He was also fairly important to the backstory in the Shadow the Hedgehog game, albeit in a really silly way. alcharagia posted:Glad to finally see an LP of the actual worst Sonic game ever Is it that bad? I would think Sonic 2006 would be the bearer of that title. Or one of those older games like Sonic Schoolyard. Never mind, I think you had it right. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Aug 20, 2013 |
# ¿ Aug 20, 2013 21:12 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 17:17 |
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LeafyOrb posted:It still drives me insane that of all the things the Sonic franchise has cashed in on over the years somehow the Chao aren't one of them. They've been in most of the recent games sure but have never been properly utilized. Make a game out of the Chao breeding mechanics in SA2, Sega I swear you'll make a mint. The Wisps seem to be SEGA's new thing at the moment, so that might be less likely than ever at the moment.
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2013 06:59 |
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Onmi posted:You know I honestly think the concept of a Sonic RPG could work, if you did it right. I mean you've got the colourful cast of characters with all their unique bullshit power, equips and styles. You got a (seemingly ever-changing) world full of colourful locals, you have a bunch of villains to use (Eggman, Battle Birds, a couple of factions from the comics). Get the right writer and set the right tone with the right battle system, and you have a good game. Wasn't that what Sonic Battle was?
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# ¿ Aug 21, 2013 07:52 |
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SirPhoebos posted:I'm going to regret asking, but could you elaborate? Dulcy the Dragon from the Archie Comics. Apparently, she had a romantic interest in this Chinese dragon named Zan. But he was evil and a racist, so Sonic had G.U.N. kill him.
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# ¿ Aug 22, 2013 14:47 |
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I've never had a reason to call something "clear as mud" before, but that sums up this battle system rather concisely. And there's something about Sonic being a "Power" character that bothers me.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2013 02:41 |
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I know I looked up the wiki page where it said that Zan was racist and a dick, but I thought you guys were kidding about the "Then why does he hit you?" part. Also, it's okay for Amy to try hitting Sonic with a hammer when she's angry, but Zan hitting Dulcy is just wrong.
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# ¿ Aug 24, 2013 07:18 |
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Onmi posted:See this is why the only time she's a good character these days is (surprisingly given that they gave every excuse to ditch her beforehand) the comic, where she's... well not a violent psychopathic stalker. If I can speak for the Sonic games in general for a moment, I'd have to say that a major complaint of mine is how the minor characters are really just so one-dimensional to the point that it becomes annoying. I mean, you have a cast full of characters with various backgrounds and such, but all they do is act out their ridiculous character traits and abandon their previous characterization to become Sonic's cheerleaders. That was a major problem I had with Generations' (short) story. I'm hoping that this game attempts to do something about that. Endorph posted:Team Chaotix are the best one-dimensional minor characters, and I'll brook no argument to the contrary. No argument there. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 19:13 on Aug 24, 2013 |
# ¿ Aug 24, 2013 19:08 |
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Capcom already has MegaMan RPGs, though. That's what Battle Network and Star Force are for.
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# ¿ Aug 31, 2013 22:02 |
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You know, I never thought of it before, but Eggman does have a weird obsession with theme parks. In both Unleashed and Colors he makes one, and the older games have a number of stages like Toy Kingdom or Circus Park. So, does Eggman want to take over the world by becoming a modern age Walt Disney or something?
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# ¿ Sep 15, 2013 18:46 |
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TheFattestPat posted:I've heard theories that Eggman builds casinos and amusement parks in order to get a cash flow. I'm not really sure why'd he'd need money though. Other than for building his initial robot army, of course. I'm not sure how canon Sonic Battle is, but he seems to get his income from selling his robots as security drones to places that need it. But, yes, he does seem to want to make the world his empire, with an amusement park at the center of things.
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# ¿ Sep 16, 2013 06:12 |
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TwoPair posted:
Well, you can't deny that he has a point. I'm rather surprised that Central City looks nothing like how it has in other games. Additionally, that GUN guy was a bit of a jerk to Amy. Wind God Sety posted:Isn't that more or less what they've done post-Sonic 2006? Sort of. The active and recurring Sonic friends so far are: * Sonic * Tails * Knuckles * Shadow * Rouge * Amy * Cream * Vector * Espio * Charmy * Blaze * Silver With occasional appearances by Big and Omega. Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 23:35 on Sep 24, 2013 |
# ¿ Sep 24, 2013 23:23 |
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Wind God Sety posted:To be fair, most of those characters have only been in Generations after 2006, where the whole point was to celebrate everything Sonic's been through. They were in the DS version of Colors, and some have shown up in side games, too. On the topic of Big, I would say he's the poster child of unnecessary Sonic characters. He never has an important role in any of the games he shows up in, and I'd be willing to believe that's the case for this game, too.
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# ¿ Sep 29, 2013 05:57 |
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Onmi posted:He has? He was in Generations as a Trophy Basically, in 2012, there was confirmation by SEGA that Big the Cat was retired for the foreseeable future due to them being unable to figure out how to put him in more stories. And while I get rehashing "Froggy, where are you!?" for the 500th time isn't interesting, I'm a little surprised they didn't manage to have him show up at Sonic's birthday party in one of the least story driven games in the series.
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# ¿ Sep 29, 2013 20:44 |
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Eh... I don't hate Silver, though I do feel he's unnecessary as a character. All of his major characterization came from Sonic 2006 which retconned itself, and now he's just... kinda around without having been properly reintroduced within the main games.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2013 02:14 |
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Alien Arcana posted:But normally you would expect a new character to get some kind of... introduction. Like, how did Sonic and crew meet him? What's his backstory? What are his motivations? Right. This is what I meant. I mean, even though Cream was introduced in Sonic Advance 2, she still got a sort of formal introduction at the beginning of Sonic Heroes in Team Rose's story. Same with Team Chaotix and Omega. Heck, even Blaze got a sort of introduction in Sonic 2006. But Silver hasn't really been reintroduced aside from in some side games.
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# ¿ Sep 30, 2013 04:36 |
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Gaseous Snake posted:I don't know about you guys but Blaze is pretty rad. She's like, the only female Sonic character that isn't manic. Cream isn't manic! Blaze probably is the best rounded female character, though.
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# ¿ Oct 1, 2013 16:10 |
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What the heck? Who gave Knuckles steroids?
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# ¿ Oct 2, 2013 23:08 |
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The GIG posted:Sonic Heroes 2 There's already a Sonic Heroes 2. They just decided to call it Sonic Free Riders.
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# ¿ Oct 3, 2013 15:15 |
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Knuckles and Amy. Also, I lost track of this thread for a while and forgot to check on it. Yay, Cream is in-game~
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# ¿ Oct 27, 2013 04:07 |
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I'm of the opinion that Amy isn't a terrible character... when the writers remember that there's more to her character than being a creepy stalker, a part of her crush that started in Sonic Heroes if I'm not mistaken. So, while I do find the snark Sonic is supplying rather humorous, I wouldn't mind seeing the romantic dialogue as well. Maybe it'd cause Amy to tone things down a bit. TwoPair posted:Alright, since it's been one week (and people haven't really been voting for a while), I can safely say our team next chapter will be Amy and Knuckles. It's okay though Big fans, like I said, he'll be forced in during the Mystic Ruins portion of next update. Alright, Team Sonic Advance!
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2013 00:52 |
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majormonotone posted:Sonic Adventure, actually. Really? I remember it being fairly tame in that game, her theme song's lyrics aside. She was more focused on saving that Flicky, wasn't she?
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# ¿ Nov 1, 2013 00:59 |
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HGH posted:Wasn't Earl also in one of the Sonic GBA/DS games? Or was that some other gizoid or something? Emerl was introduced in Sonic Battle for the GBA. After having his copy function overloaded, and possibly broken, due to Eggman blowing up some stars and being forced to copy that energy, he was destroyed by Sonic. Eggman later rebuilt him in Sonic Advance 3 as G-merl/Gemerl. At the end of the game, Tails manages to reclaim him and reprograms him to be their friend again with G-merl/Gemerl staying with Cream.
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# ¿ Nov 11, 2013 04:09 |
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Discendo Vox posted:Which is sad; because they were minimalist in form, the Advance games had some of the best writing of the series. Sonic Advance 3 contradicts Sonic Unleashed, though. Eggman splits the planet into seven pieces in both games, yet there's no mention of Dark Gaia in Advance 3. Of course, that could always take place after Unleashed, so meh.
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# ¿ Nov 14, 2013 00:41 |
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I say go for B.
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# ¿ Dec 14, 2013 20:04 |
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So, I take it that I'm the only one that noticed that Cream's profile said that she was a member of "Team Amy" instead of the accurate name of "Team Rose"? I feel kinda awkward about that now. TwoPair posted:: My face itches. On the other hand, this is the perfect line to save for last.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2014 06:58 |
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How did I miss that reference? I'll admit that was pretty funny.
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# ¿ Jan 1, 2014 18:11 |
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I think it's because: * The game basically expected you to play it four times with very little variation outside of the Team Chaotix stages, which tended to forsake speed for running around looking for objects. * The enemies that required you to completely stop moving and beat the snot out of them due to their large health bars or armor. * The story being rather lackluster and outright ridiculous at points. "Oh, hey, Shadow's alive? Let's fight for no reason!" "Oh, who are those guys (Team Chaotix)? I don't know who they are, but I'm just going to assume they're after Eggman's treasure and attack them anyway!" * Unbelievably cheesy and almost painful dialogue. "Let's show this creep the REAL SUPERPOWER OF TEAMWORK!™"
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2014 14:17 |
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Endorph posted:These two things were present in spades in the first two Sonic Adventure games too. Well, I suppose that is true. Tikal was largely ignored until the end of the game (and irrelevant in Amy, Big, and Gamma's stories since they don't deal with/don't care about Chaos). And a lot of SA2 had things just conveniently happening for the sake of plot, like Knuckles coming out a mine exactly where Sonic and Co. were. Still, I feel it's a lot more noticeable when there's a paper thin plot that's not going anywhere. Adventure and Adventure 2 at least tried to make each character have a unique tale. Heroes just recycled the same thing for everyone.
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2014 17:00 |
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Squallege posted:Also Tails wasn't voiced by a small boy they found in a Walmart parking lot. But Tails has the same voice actor in the Adventure games that he does in Heroes...
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# ¿ Jan 4, 2014 23:55 |
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Really? Huh. I thought the cast was the same for the Adventure and Heroes games. My mistake.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2014 01:27 |
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Gensuki posted:You probably blacked out how terrible his voice was. Do not feel obligated to go back and listen to it again. Against my better judgment, I went and looked it up to see if it really was different and there is a noticeable difference between the voices in SA1, SA2, and Heroes. On the other hand, that Heroes voice was so bad that I actually had eardrum pain for a moment. I'm serious. That's not a joke.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2014 01:59 |
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The only real good things about Sonic 2006 are the soundtrack and Shadow's story, which is less mediocre than the other three since Shadow actually doesn't get tricked by a blatantly obvious villain or spend the whole game saving a princess, like, eight times.
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# ¿ Jan 5, 2014 14:27 |
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Sonic Advance 3 is the only one of the Advance games I ever got Super Sonic unlocked in. Never again.
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# ¿ Jan 8, 2014 21:27 |
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Pigbuster posted:If you beat the game with Sonic and crew, which you probably will since you have to unlock all the others, then it's just "congratulations! Now do literally the exact same thing again! Except less challenging!" It's just such a hilariously dumb decision. I'm not sure about the GameCube version, but I had Heroes on the PS2 and I beat the stories in order of Team Rose > Team Chaotix > Team Sonic > Team Dark, with all of the teams unlocked from the beginning.
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# ¿ Jan 9, 2014 16:22 |
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Can I just say that I love the subtle detail of how Knuckles immediately believes Eggman? Ever the gullible knucklehead. Onmi posted:I like Shadow best when he's showing that beneath it all he's still very much "normal" Between Shadow's interactions there and Cream having dialogue with Omega, I really get the feeling I should read these comics.
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# ¿ Feb 6, 2014 18:55 |
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That face should be an avatar. As for Gamma vs. Omega, I think I heard about that before. Omega and Gamma fuse together, right? Blueberry Pancakes fucked around with this message at 23:12 on Feb 6, 2014 |
# ¿ Feb 6, 2014 23:05 |
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I see SEGA finally decided to take the bold move of telling the story of Knuckles' steroid abuse.
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2014 01:55 |
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Personally, of all of them I think Amy and Tails look the best. ...I'm actually a fan of Amy when she's written well. Am I still cool, guys?
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# ¿ Feb 7, 2014 02:37 |
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Silver pretty much is Trunks. He comes from the future to destroy a threat (Androids/Sonic), finds out that things are different due to the presence of another entity (Cell/Mephiles), and ends up helping to fight an even bigger threat than he initially thought (Perfect Cell/Solaris).
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# ¿ Feb 10, 2014 01:34 |
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# ¿ Apr 23, 2024 17:17 |
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Geostomp posted:Oh dear God, the endless Sonic fan characters. Enter any word at all in Deviantart and you'll get somebody's "super original plez dont steel!!" hedgehog/sayian/keyblade master from the future named Bloodrange The scary thing is that I think I know that guy.
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# ¿ Feb 13, 2014 01:45 |